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  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited October 2005
    Lisa, remember you are on about day 5 or 6 arent you? So you will be at your LOWEST regarding energy. That day will seem to last forever....you can hardly read, talk, watch TV, or anything.

    But tomorrow or the next day your energy will start to return if you are like me and many of us here. Then every treatment i 'forget' about the tired days being days 5 and 6 and I wonder what is wrong!

    So, try and remember the body wants you to rest it on those days and the other days you will have more energy. I am on Neupogen for dose dense AC and then T later and i get the pain too. Vicoden helps as does OXY if you dont have to drive. Walking helps distract me also. Ask the docs if there is a lower dose of it they could give you next session, they gave me 7 shots instead of 8 for the second AC session, since they found my WBC was "too good" and i was getting so achy.
  • cazza61
    cazza61 Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2005
    Hi all ,
    had #3 yesterday sucked a lolliepop during it and didnt get that yucky taste in my mouth got a really bad head but,when i got home had something to eat got my antinausea meds and went to bed,my pulse thumped for ages and when i got up to go to the loo i nearly passed out,i have never nearly passed out on thid before.I dont feel to bad today except for a headachce and a bit woozy still.
    love to all
    carol
  • marg1
    marg1 Member Posts: 73
    edited October 2005
    Hi everyone, Marg here.



    Aussiemum -- LOVED the short survivor movie. It is only about 5 min so everybody should watch. It was perfect. I could not stop sobbing. Did you ever get that book I recommended?



    Peggy, Good for you on the 1/2 mark. I am so jealous!!!!!!! I am down 2 AC tx and 2 to go.



    Leanne, I love the website. I cry when I think you and the Aussiemum don't get herceptin. I wanted to sneak Aussimum into the states somehow,-- well that was my plan. I love the way you are going for it. If I wanted to send you a little $$ -- would that be in a travelers check?

    I am a HER2+ girl too!!! I start my Herceptin in Dec.



    Penny -- how's my girl? Haven't seen your posts.



    Susan -- happy belated birthday!!!!! How you still manage to keep up with everybody is amazing. You are great.



    As for me, I am 1 week post my 2nd AC tx and feeling okay. I am back at work sort of -- work only 6 hours a day. I just get tired. Lately, I have had all these cravings for the sweet stuff. I have never had a sweet tooth and all of a sudden Im shoving carrot cake down my throat followed by a snicker bar and a milk shake. What the heck is going on?? I was secrectly hoping to lose a few pounds while on chemo -- fat chance at this rate!!!!! I know I gotta watch what I eat, I am reading more and more of obesity (I am 5,0" and weigh 170lbs) and the relation to breast cancer -- well too late for me but I hear I could help reduce my chances of a recurrance if I lose the weight after chemo and start an exercise program. I think I will join Weight Watchers after my chemo is done in FEB.



    A little something spirtiual for some of you ladies

    from my fav book



    Coats of Pride



    "God sets himself against the proud but he shows favor to the humble" So humble yourselves under the mighty power of GOD and in his good time he will honor you. 1 Peter 5:5-6



    The author goes on to say.... 5 months earlier I had my act together. I had a great marriage, good kids, and a successful consulting business. Everything was going my way and on track. I owed it all to my skills, intellignece, business acumen, and a lot of hard work. I knew how to stand on my own two feet and didn't need help from anyone. I was relatively attrative for a woman in her mid 40;s, a size 8, long black hair and I didn't even had to color. I even had GOD figured out, I went to church on Sundays, listened to the messages and thought I understood everything God had to show me. Today, I sat bald and broken on the bathroom floor. Stripped of every hair, stripped of every pride coat ....humbled before God. Are any of you wearing any coats of pride? Perhaps you have been depending on your own strength instead of God's or you have been busy doing your own thing instead of seeking Him. Perhaps, this cancer has you on your knees... bald and broken, with ever coat of pride and every hair on your body stipped away. Today, it's just you and God. If you haven't already done so, invite Him into the center of your battle. When the heavenly Father looks into your heart and see your genuine humility, He will honor you.



    I pray for all of us --- Marg
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited October 2005
    I am back from chemo # 2, not vomiting yet like last time, hope that lasts...

    They switched me from Aloxi to Zofran (keeping decadron and Emend like before)

    My white blood count was 13,000, they still want me to get the Neulasta tomorrow.

    Anybody outthere who had good count and got the shot too??

    Hope you all feel great..Oh yeah...I am bald!!!! Had it done last night, tried short hair first and it looked good, then a Mohawk (to please the little one ), then the buzz.
    Went to Walmart to buy hats and knit hats.
    Maybe I will post some photos soon.

    God Bless
  • marg1
    marg1 Member Posts: 73
    edited October 2005
  • foxxf
    foxxf Member Posts: 171
    edited October 2005
    Hi to all

    I haven't been around much because I have luckly had nothing to report. After my first treatment the first 6 days were the hardest after that you wouldn't know anything was going on. I have been well and very lucky.

    The only new development is that two days ago (day 16) my hair started to come out a bit more than usual. Now on day 18 there is an avalanche...

    Last night we got the clippers out and did a number 2 buzz cut but it is still a pain and yucky in the shower so I think by tomorrow that I will have to go shorter.

    Aussiemum and leanne you crack me up with the swimming jelly fish boob thing. I to am a little concerned about swimming, we camp at the beach at christmas time and am wondering if I should get a (reminds me of nanna, hate the idea) bathing cap or go bald swimming. Don't want to get my shiny head sunburned. lol. just not sure what to do...

    I am due for treatment 2 this friday and will be on fortnightly treatments there after.

    good luck to every one and best wishes
    Nicole
  • jlpd
    jlpd Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005
    Greetings all..greeting to our newbies...sorry you have to travel this road, but at least you're not alone...

    Marg...I've always had a sweet tooth, but I've noticed that when my taste buds started to come back (I'm on AC every three weeks and it took two full weeks before things tasted right), I wanted things salty or sweet...extra sweet!!! It's calmed down a little, but my next infusion is tomorrow...so...

    Just a little note to everyone. A lot of you have been impressed that I've continued to work and have been taking care of my horses, etc. (a girl has gotta do, what a girl has gotta do!)..well...I just pulled out my 'log' I kept of the first week following the last infusion...guys, I felt like cr*p! Even with all the meds...some nausea...tired...achey days 3 and 4...and most of it I don't remember. What I do remember was after the first week...stomach still didn't feel right. Had to drink coke or eat constantly to keep it happy...eating yogurt was essential to get my stomach to quit hurting (gas pains, I believe) and I'll start eating yogurt immediately this time...but then each day got better...and that is what I'm focusing on...each day will get better!!! And before you know it, it will all be over! So I've planned the next five days to be at home and do nothing...(except log onto here!) and if on day six (which was my worst day the last time according to my log), I don't feel up to going into work, I won't. That's what sick days are for!!!

    SO my water pitcher for ice water is waiting and my saltines are there to help me take my meds whenever I need them....here goes round 2!!!

    Janet
  • jlpd
    jlpd Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005

    Oh...as a side note...this time I'm using Docolace...and at day 21 my hair is starting to fall out!!! Will probably buzz the rest off in a day or two...

  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited October 2005
    A/C finished! So far so good. I took 1 Benedryl before going to bed last night and got over 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep (with 1 bathroom break) and that's after a several hour nap yesterday afternoon. I feel like I've finally gotten A/C down. I know in a couple of days I'll be hit with that bad cold feeling and have to go to bed for a day or so.
    The renovation is continuing walls being taken away, sheet rock and ceiling panels coming down to make way for plumbing and wiring. Needless to say the dust is flying. My bedroom is exactly where I want to be to escape all that.
    I hope the post chemo crash waits until after Saturday. It's Family Day at my older daughter's college.
    So I'll probably be celebrating the end of A/C sometime next week. I have an appt. with my onc. next Tuesday to discuss Taxol and its set of nasty side effects. the nurses say some people sail through it maybe I'll be one of the lucky ones.
    After that, probably one of the hormone drugs. Maybe radiation.

    This journey continues.
    Peggy
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited October 2005
    Yes, Susan, I call my wig "the critter". I just haven't bonded with it enough to give it a name. Do you care to explain "Cory"? How many of the rest of you have named you wigs?

    Hey Marg! great picture! Maybe I'll get the courage to post my "bald picture" soon. Thanks for the words of wisdom.
    Welcome Lisa,
    and newcomers to the ranks of baldies, and those in transition. Just another way to find out something new about yourself, the way you look and what's important.
    Be strong and have fun!
    Peggy
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Peg,

    Cory is the name on the box. Like you, I haven't bonded even a little with this wig, so she has her own name. She is a separate entity, and somehow got to have her own name. When I put "Cory" on, I look like a totally different person; which is somehow disconcerting.

    I am off to a 6-day gig at one of the Connecticut casinos where I will have to wear Cory for 2 hours each day. Maybe the two of us will come to an understanding during this time. Or maybe not.

    Enjoy Family Weekend.... I will miss my daughter's since it is scheduled during my 'bad' days.

    *susan*

    p.s. CONGRATS on the end of A/C!!!!!!!
  • hopeful1
    hopeful1 Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005
    Welcome Lisa. You have found a great support site with many amazing women. My best thoughts to you as you continue through this journey.

    Peg - add my congrats on the end of your A/C! Only one more to go for me!

    Susan - Happy belated birthday! Hope you are doing well after round 3. We will be celebrating the end of A/C on the same day. We'll have to have a cyber-celebration!

    Calico - I switched to Zofran my last treatment and it worked very well for me. I hope it will do the same for you. I also had really good counts and still got the shot. I had a few aches and pains for the first time - but it didn't last long.

    I don't have a name for my wig, but I have finally figured out what I feel like when I wear it - a Pez dispenser. I feel like I have this huge head and I could just hold my neck back and provide a nice candy treat for everyone!
  • nmherr
    nmherr Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2005
    Hi lisa,
    Oh the first time I had chemo years ago I too was a single mom. My son matured nicely in kindergarten having to help me get through. Eventually he turned into an 18 year old and I think we compete for normal thinking. I guess if you think Decadron and friends do funny things to your mind, well testosterone has to run a close second. Glad to have you on board.
    As for the fog in the mind, it will lift when the chemicals get out of your brain. I ask the chemo nurse for another prescript of Dec and she asked me how I took it. I said orally. She said, no I mean 1x a day or 2x a day. I said 2 she said 1, 2x a day or 2, 2x a day? I said I take 1 early morning and 1 in early afternoon. She said so 1 8mg 2x a day. I said look, I got chemo brain, quit screwing with me, you know I can't do numbers. She laughed and some how got my prescript right.
    I just had my 3rd round of E/C and am more nauseous but so far doing good. I hope it is going well for you. 1 more of the real yucky stuff and then on to different side effects but I think they are more manageable.
  • nmherr
    nmherr Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2005
    Calico, my last wbc was 23000 and I still got the nuelasta shot. Doc said it was high but thats just the shot working. I hurt like anything this morning after the shot. Worse than before. My onc is the best so I turst he knows what he is doing.
    I too went hat shopping. Went in Old Navy whipped off the hair and preceded to shop. I had several employees walk by and I know they were looking. Then I went to Sports Authority and did the same. I got 4 great ski caps and dedided being a bald woman must make you look smart enough to buy hats because no one asked me any more if I needed help. Maybe they decided I needed more help then they could give me.Its breast cancer awareness month and you think when they see a bald lady in a store they would give her a discount on hats?????
  • nmherr
    nmherr Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2005
    Susan, thanks for the reply. I really needed some encouragement today. I am on day 3 of round 3 and the for some reason your reply is very encouraging but I keep crying knowing how much you and everyone else cares. I think I better drink more water just to refill. This must be a major chemical release day and it is leaking out my eyes. It is very hard to type through tears. Actually I am feeling better this time around than I have any other treatment so I don't know why all the tears.
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    Norine

    Sorry you are having a hard time today, we are here for you.

    I'm putting my arms halfway around the world to give you a hug.

    Maxine
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited October 2005
    Norinne,

    just thought of an idea, if I go for more hat shopping, I write "breast cancer awareness month" on the back of my head.
    So while I try on and they look on, they get the message.

    We went to our regular fast food restaurant yesterday wearing no hair but a hat and when I walked out, the waitress choked up when she asked if I am alright. I told her...she was so sweet.

    God Bless
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited October 2005
    Marg,

    hang in there, AC halfway YIHAAA You are a STRONG women, you can do that!!

    God Bless
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited October 2005
    Happy Birthday Susan

    God Bless
  • marg1
    marg1 Member Posts: 73
    edited October 2005
    hello everybody

    Just wanted to pass along a good idea that I shared with everyone earlier -- I bought a shoe rack the kind with pockets that hang behind the door. I placed my bandanas, caps, hats, wigs etc there -- so when I am getting dressed they are all ready for me to whip on the bald head and go!!!!
  • jlpd
    jlpd Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005
    Norine...You're doing great...you may not think so, but you've shown us you haven't lost your sense of humor and isn't that what really counts???

    Lisa, Take heart...in a few days you'll feel better and the fog won't be so bad....

    Susan...belated happy birthday to you too...It sounds like you've planned several nice days...are you performing at the casino's or...playing the slot machines??? Maybe both?

    Marg...I've had the same thoughts about my weight and diet (or lack there of!)...I've been reading about weight and diet effects on reoccurance...and plan to put together a lifestyle that allows me to fight that happening anyway I can. I've also read about exercise...Isn't someone in our group part of a study on exercise and chemo side effects??? Guess I need to go back and read the last 23 pages!

    Off to my appointment...janet
  • cazza61
    cazza61 Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2005
    Hi all
    just want ot share something my onc nurse said to me.
    I told her how I was getting sick after chemo went through all my meds that im supposed to be having then she started asking questions about how sick I got when I was pregnant,she said that she found alot of woman that have had severve morning sickness when they where pregnant seem to get the same reaction on chemo and I was sick for the whole time when i was pregnant,she was to try and a survey to see if its a fact if there is a link to it.
    anyway hope all is well 2nd day after a/c #3 and all is well except for the nausea and chemo head waiting for the sinus to hit me tomorrow then off to bed for 2 days
    love to all
    carol
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited October 2005
    Peggy – I am from Tamworth which is in Staffordshire in the Midlands in the UK, about 3, 4 hours by road from London if you want to stick a pin on your map.

    Maxine I am having 4 cycles of Epirubicin and 4 (I think) of CMF, followed by 3 weeks of radiotherapy.

    Leanne, thanks for sharing your site with us and good luck with the fundraising – beautiful family.

    Susan I also want to do something special for my nurses, they are brill and do above and beyond their duty.

    I saw a lady receiving Herceptin in the hospital just the other day, however I didn’t get chance to chat to her and I don’t know her circumstances.

    Not good news with my line, but I wouldn’t want to worry anyone as it doesn’t happen on a regular basis. Apparently 7/8 ladies a year at my hospital get thrombosis when having a Hickman line, it seems I am one of them. Got to go as a day patient on Monday and have the Hickman line removed (yuk). In the meantime I have got to go to my oncology dept every day for a while to have a blood thinning injection in my tummy (yuk again). Got to have Warafrin (spelling??) for 3 months to get rid of clot and then (maybe) have the line put back in (double yuk). My left arm is more painful than when I had my op on the right side and I am living on parecetomol. I feel really cheated as I have been soooo careful to avoid infection in the line and I had no bother having it put in really. I have now got to have the needles in for treatment until the line is put back in which apparently takes longer and they have to be more careful. But there are many, many people worse off than me, so I shouldn't moan.

    I am off for a bone scan tomorrow so must log off now and get to bed.

    Speak soon and chin up ladies.


    Sandra from the UK
  • cazza61
    cazza61 Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2005
    hi again
    feeling really sick today,the thought of eating drinking and taking tablets makes me want to vomit,not nice.I have those wafer things but dont know whether to take them because i took a anti nasea tablet 4 hours ago,this is getting confusing not good for chemo head at all.Im taking navoban 1 tablet every 24 hours for 2 daysdexamethasone 4 times a day for 2 days maxolon anti nausea tablet 1/2 hour before meals and before bed and they also gave me zofran wafers twice a day if needed oh the head hurts just want to sleep for the next 4 days and forget about it.
    I really dont want to go for #4 now I feel like a winger if i have to ring onc department up thats how she made me feel when i went in for #3 the other day.
    everyone have a nice day
    love carol
  • foxxf
    foxxf Member Posts: 171
    edited October 2005
    Carol

    They told me that the dex last for 6hr and the Maxalon for 4 hrs so if you feel like crap then by all means take the Zorfan wafer (i am going to ask for some tomorrow) Take some Panadol or panadine fore for that headache too.

    I usually never take tablets for any thing and it really has been hard getting used to taking sooo many tablets but you know what I would rather rattle when I walk than feel like this. So tablets away.....

    I am going for treat #2 tomorrow. I hope you are feeling better soon.
    Best wishes
    Nicole
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited October 2005
    Norine, have a smile in your tears (tears are allowed) cos you make so many of us smile. You were so brave with your hair, I haven’t even shown my hubby my bald head yet. I used to be a horsewoman in my younger days – must say I don’t miss the early morning muck-outs on a cold day.

    Carol, we are allowed to Whinge and if you are concerned about ANYTHING, you ask and don’t allow anyone to make you feel anything but good about yourself, remember ‘You may have (had) C but it hasn’t got you’.

    Well I must go – just popped in to see what you are all up to – it is 7.30 am today and I need to get myself organised for bone scan and I thought I would pop into a Cancer Support Group today as I am thinking of trying Reiki.

    My round 2 has not been brilliant and I am soooo fed up with this Thrombosis thing it is hard to get up in the morning and put a brave smile on for others sometimes isn’t it?

    Well I will be wearing the animal today. Peggy I can relate to the not bonding feeling as I can’t bring myself to name my head attire either.

    Speak later, chin up.

    Sandra from the UK
  • leannem
    leannem Member Posts: 137
    edited October 2005
    Hi ladies!

    I hope you are all feeling good today and working through the various stages of treatment that you are at. I am so new to this whole thing that I can't tell you the relief I felt when I read that nearly all of you are off to bed for a day or 2 after AC!! I thought I was just a slacker! I felt truly awful for a few days last round (#2) and couldn't move for 2 days to do ANYTHING. I can't tell you all enough how great it is to find like minded/feeling people!

    Well I had my bone scan today and it would appear I am CLEAR!! YAY!! Sooo relieved as I know you can imagine. I have scoliosis (curvature of the spine) which sure as anything explains years of sore back, neck and migraines. Minor detail in the scheme of things though!

    Funny story...

    When I pulled the scan out I saw this black blob really low down and I started to freak out and my dad says to me "um. Leanne isn't that your pelvis!!" and THEN I went on about how they had obviously missed my "elbow cancer" and he graciously pointed out that that was where the dye was injected.... oops...

    Thanks to those of you who have seen the website and commented on it! We are really proud of it and hope that eventually we can make a difference. We are getting some fantastic publicity at the moment- I did 3 newspaper interviews today alone! Very exciting.

    Now the furry beast that sits upon our heads. Mine is simply called "The Wig". That's it. No personal names (I believe she is named "erica") no relationship at all. Just a nice, functional impersonal description. I have worn 'it' once and felt so funny! while everyone just thought I had visited the hairsalon and had a good hair day I thought it screamed "bald person underneath". Just me though I guess. It is the hair I wish I had when I had a choice and still I would probably stick my scarf on or my bear my bald head and head out! And I used to be so vain..sigh.. haha. I just wish I was clever and could tie scarves nicely.

    Okay, gotta dash this laptop battery is about to rudely shut me up I think.

    xoxoxo

    www.leannebradshaw.com
  • nmherr
    nmherr Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2005
    Hi everyone. Just thought I let you know I am out of the depression funk and into life. I am actually having a better round this time than the first 2 times.
    Sandra H
    I am so sorry you are having such trouble with your hickman line. I also hate trying to put on the brave smile when I am feeling so down and that is something I so much appreciate about this site. I don't feel like others really understand about how wearing the constant struggles are other than our 'Board friends. Understand we do and pray hardily to lift each other up.
    Carol,
    I too had trouble with all the pills they keep giving me. Chemo brain and way too many drugs does not sound like a reasonable request to make of anyone. I just have to say that the best thing I did do for my nauseau was eat every 2 hours, not a lot of food but something. It took me 3 sittings to eat a cup of yogurt or bowl of soup but each little bit seemed to help. The other thing is are you sure you aren't having a migraine? That was the first treatment for me and boy was I sick to the stomach from that headache. If you get nauseous looking into light or moving your eyes from right to left it could be you are actually having migraines. I atke vicadin when the first headache starts to come on and go to bed in the dark. So far it only happened one time.

    My pills are calling, so I better go get that false sense of wellness the decadron gives me. A little vicadin for the bone pain and I may have to make prank calls to innocent friends I would go visit but I think driving is out.. Oh if I am already feeling a little wild and loopy now I may have to get back to the Boards later.
  • jlpd
    jlpd Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005
    Greetings everyone. My infusion (#2) went pretty well, except when they tried to push the A drug into my iv, it wouldn't go...seems they popped the vein...so they had to find another one to use and the rest of it went fine. I have mine late in the afteroon, so about 6:30 - 7 pm, I was whipped. Stayed out to take my meds, then off to bed. Woke up around midnight, took a penagram with saltines and ice water and work up at 5:00, little queasy but nothing my meds couldn't take care of. BUT they almost didn't give me the chemo...said my white counts were boarder line...so they finally agreed to go ahead and then said if my counts were down next week, they would give me a neulasta shot. WHat's the difference between neulasta and neupogen?

    Also received some information I didn't want to hear...posted it under a different section (moving on after treatment, I think)...ha...my memory definitely doesn't last but a few minutes...I still have swelling under my armpit (not in my arm, but my side)...and I know it's from doing too much too soon. When I talked with the PA (didn't see the doc), she said the body would absorb the fluid...and it was starting to do that before I over-did-it...I asked when I could go back to lifting hay bales and 50 pound bags of feed, etc. (I have a small horse farm in addition to my full time job)...and she shook her head and said 5 to 10 pounds...basically forever. I looked at her, almost in tears, and said "I won't accept that!"...Please let me know what your doctors have told you regarding a mastectomy and resuming a normal life. Thanks. Janet
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    Sandra

    I'm so sorry you are going through all this crap with thrombosis, and having to have your port removed....that sucks.

    Norine
    I hope you are feeling better today, we have all got to take this journey one step at a time, and when one of us falters, the rest of us will pick that person up and carry them...that is what we are here for.

    For those who have been feeling poorly, i hope today is a better day.

    love
    Maxine

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