June 2010 Mastectomy
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I just got back from my oncologist appointment and errands. They don't recommend that I take the Tamoxifen. Where I had both breasts removed there is nothing really left to treat and she said the cons out weigh the pro's at this point. Getty- I did ask her if I had only had one breast removed would she have then recommended it and she said yes, absolutely. I also asked about screening blood work etc and she said there is no need for that either. Because the cancer was DCIS and completely contained, the nodes were not effected she said there should be no chance of it spreading. Obviously all of this was great to hear. To be honest I don't feel like I trust this whole cancer thing. I guess it's because of watching my mother pass away from it, I don't know. But it scares the crap out of me when I actually sit and think about it.
Walking into the oncologist and seeing everyone getting treatment my heart just sank. It brought me back to going with my mom to hang out with her when she got chemo. My mom never felt sick from chemo and when we used to go it never bothered me. It was fun to sit and hang out with her for a couple of hours and then we would go do something either before or after. It was almost like girls day. Hell, we did my seating arrangement for my wedding at chemo. But today---ahh today---it was sad. I was sad for the people in there and I was sad for my mother. It made things so real for me, that I actually got cancer. There are too many people living through this crap. I hope that they all have someone who loves them and that they all have support to help them through.
Sorry ladies, at the moment I have a heavy heart. And, I have to snap out of it and start cooking food for a party. Tonight I will have a glass of wine and toast you all- thank you for listening to me and for being so supportive.
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I'm glad you get to miss the Tamoxifen train, Laurie. Thank you for asking about my situation, hypothetically. Tamoxifen it will be for me ... (I wish someone had pointed that out ahead of time to me!). I absolutely know what you mean about not trusting cancer. When I sit and think too much about it, way too many "what-if" scenarios pop into my mind. I guess we have to trust the experts with their prognostications about DCIS. I know, though, that I will be vigilant forever with my health. No more blowing off routine tests for any part of my body. I never blew off the mammo's, but I can't say the same thing about yearly blood work, etc.
One of the reasons that I like the set-up of my onc's office is that it is in a hospital, so all the treatment areas are on another floor from her office. It helps to make my visits to her a lot more like "just another doctor's office" visit. The only things on the same floor as her are my BS' office and women's radiology. I didn't know that onc offices had the chemo rooms contained in them until I went to my second opinion guy. Like you said, it really brought it all home. You and I dodged that bullet with DCIS. We were lucky this time. God-willing, our luck will hold and, like my GYN told me, this will be the one health crisis of our lifetime.
Enjoy your party prep, and when you lift that glass tonight, remember to toast yourself, too. You are one brave and compassionate lady. Salud!
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Congrats Jeanne !! That is no small accomplishment. We are all proud of you .. AND.. we get free counseling too LOL.
No Tamox for me either. However she wants me on Femara for life. I have read the reports and side effects and not sure I will do this. Laurie I so understand what you are saying. I feel so fortunate but something in the back of my mind won't stop worrying me.
Had my last fill today and while its not real painful, I am just miserable. My exchange is set for October 7th. The PS told me he can't make twins but will make sisters. I thought...Humm.. I have seen lots of really opposite looking sisters LOL. Anyway I am still apprehensive about that. Anyone had that done already?
Hope everyone sleeps good tonight.. Hugs
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Just catching up on where everyone is at - lots of progress! I just got back from 4 days at the beach - Captiva for you FL people..we stayed on the 3rd floor with a beautiful view of the beach which was good cause I can't swim or be out in the heat due to the skin/wound/issue I have on rt breast STILL. (Healing is very slow per PS I need to be patient and "wait and see"). We went because some relatives from CA were vacationing there and my DH hadn't seen them in years. I had a bit of a pity party feeling sorry for myself at first but I did discover that I could go out early in the morning, or early evening, and still enjoy the beach, gather shells,etc.
PAIN - late in the discussion but I also get a burning type of pain, which lets me know I need to slow down. The PS told me I should still be doing NO lifting on the rt side - which is getting harder and harder to stick with but I guess he wants to optimize the healing.
JEANNE - Congratulations!!! That is a huge accomplishment, especially in the face of dealing w/BCA. I am also a social worker - I went back to school at age 48 to get my msw & it took me 3 1/2 years instead of the usual 2...
SPEECH/RENEE - I think it is incredible that you are both working at all! I still get exhausted easily and can't imagine if I had to go back to work. Although I guess when I think back to those first few weeks post surgery I am 100 times better. We've all done quite well I think! Speech - yoga retreat sounds fun - I hope to start doing yoga on a regular basis as soon as I get the clearance. Right now I am just walking...but yoga is so good for us on lots of levels, especially for coping with stress.
DUCKI - well your PS has a good sense of humor - I think his twins v. sisters analogy is pretty funny. My "girls" look like stepsisters right now...rt was already a lot smaller due to radiation 9 years ago but even more dramatic difference with just 300 ccs so far. PS says a lot of that can get straightened out down the road so I am not worried about it. I am looking forward to be able to wear "normal" clothes again some day.
LAURIE - isn't it wierd how a place or situation can bring back such vivid reminders and memories. I used to go with my dad to chemo and just driving down a certain part of the highway takes me back to those days. Of course you're sad - your mom sounds like she was an incredible woman. You must miss her so much, especially going through this breast cancer journey. I have been to a breast cancer monthly networking group twice and found it difficult and sad - some of the stories are very sad, and at times I almost feel guilty that I have such a good prognosis. I am not sure I will go back, anyone else try a "live" group?
GETTY - thinking about you this week as you go in for the exchange surgery - let us know how it goes.
Sorry this is so long, lots of catching up. Everyone have a great weekend.
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Hi Ladies,
Four weeks out, just popping in to see how you are all doing and it sounds like getty had a good med report w/ a great vacation, and will think good thoughts for you Wednesday for your exhange surgery. Jeanne congrats on your wonderful results, Laurie, Misty & Renee - stop lifting anything over 5-10 lbs. please! Ducki & Marm, patience and good luck with your continued treatments, Speech, hope you get to deep relaxation at the yoga retreat - wish I could join you. Hi Joystars & Robin... Am still resting a lot, wishing I could do more, off drugs, walking a bit each day, hurt like heck when I tried to ift something heavy, move a bookcase, OUCH!! -so learned my lesson. My TEs are half size so not up on my chest, but after one fill so far of 50cc each they are about the size I was before surgery, (170cc each) but w/ projection. Doc set exchange date for Dec. 7,and will get at least one more fill, next one is Wednesday. PT going well, great range of movement, yet so tired of sleeping on back, surrounded by pillows, so uncomfortable, tight back, neck muscles, I guess a small price to pay for replacement breasts; Barbie breasts are okay for now, look fine in clothing, yet so uncomfortabel and painful at times. We must hang in there, eh?
Love, Melissa
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Ducki: I sure hope we all end up with similar looking sisters. Sometimes, even twins aren't identical. :0
Jane: I'm so glad you got to enjoy Captiva. It's a beautiful place! Isn't it wonderful to just get away? The beach is such a relaxing place for me, even just looking at the water. Thanks for the thoughts and good wishes for my exchange surgery. I'm starting to get really nervous for the surgery. This will be the fourth surgery in 5 months. And to think I'd never had surgery before this year! I will for sure tell you guys all about my experience.
Melissa: I'm so happy to see you! Thanks in advance for the positive thoughts for Wednesday. For heaven's sake ... what the heck were you thinking trying to move a bookcase?!? I'm glad your TE's are growing and that you have your exchange date all set up. It does get more comfortable, I promise. I'm even sleeping on my stomach for little spurts of time. And I've grown quite used to this rock on my chest. Sometimes, I even forget that it's there.
I hope Laurie is having a blast at her party!
And, I hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend!
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Hello everyone! Hope you all had a very nice weekend. I'm glad to see everyone is coming back to post, is just great to read you all.
Getty, so nice to hear from you again and to know you had a good time on your holidays.. so well deserved! I'm also considering (if anything) the Tamoxifen thing... but seems like there's not really much of an option for me. After the FEC chemo treatment, a 5 years (perhaps just 2) of tamoxifen seems like the "best option for me". Will like to continue doing some research about the side effects, I'm so scared about that and not having my periods back....
Jeanne, that's greaaaaat congrats woman! Way to go!
Speech, Hmmm yoga! I wish I couldjoin something like that right now... so relaxing! With this belly of mine sounds a bit tough now, tho there's some yoga for moms out there not so sure to join while wearing a foob (might move of position and end up looking funny)
Melissa, hello back to you! Take it easy and rest as much as possible. I can relate about the pillows, in my case I'm sleeping in my own "pillow fortress" because of the belly. DH just laughs about our bed of pillows :P
Laurie, awww big hugs your way! And just like you and Getty I sometimes think "too much" about how much being diagnosed has changed my life. I'm glad I have my husband with me, but sad that my mom and dad are so far away. Hope you had a good time at your party. I hosted a hens party yesterday evening for a friend of mine and was REALLY REALLY NICE to forget for a while all this BC crap. Tho every now and then I was checking on my foob...
About me and baby, we had an appointment last week with the obstetrician and went quite well everything seems very fine with baby's development. On the previous appointment with oncologist, he was open to discuss the due date fo baby around week 32~ish. While the obstetrician voted for a week 34. She will try and get more info about the chemo treatment and if onco is fine to wait. Oh well will see how this "battle" ends up. I'm hoping for the best for both of us, baby and me.
Also last week went to a genetic test appointment, where basically we learnt nothing new as my blood samples taken about two months ago for Decaplex were a bit out of sense (I'm not Norwegian! So no way to find anything outstanding form such test) What it made sense tho was to have the chat with the genetics especialist who explained us the reason of why they think my BC "could" be genetic. So there I gave more blood samples and now it's all about waiting, about a year from now will get an answer to know if I'm BRCA 1 or 2 positive....
Tomorrow is a big day! We have an ultrasound and appointment with midwife to find out baby's gender! Wooohoo! Exciting indeed
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So ultrasound told us that....... IT'S A BABY GIRL!!!
Hubby and I already thought about names since weeks ago and we couldn't agree more about this name, that suits perfectly our little angel: VIDA which in Spanish means life.
And that's exactly what she is for us, she decided to come and bright our paths during one of the toughest moments we had: being diagnosed with breast cancer. She's been a warrior too, she came to stay and now trying to do all her best to be ready in the next 14 weeks before birth by c-section.
I'm sorry girls but at this moment I'm quite emotional, I just feel so blessed and happy and joyful, all those tears, all those times of "what if's" have gone for a while... I'm just happy to know that in my body there's LIFE too, not only bad cancer cells.... we need to keep fighting and to try and find a cure for this horrible disease, for our daughters, sisters, friends and mothers.
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joystars - congrats on finding out you have a baby girl! That's awesome! I am inspired by your strength. You are going through a terrible time, and yet there is this beautiful gift growing inside you, it's really a miracle.
Jeanne - that's huge news, how wonderful for you, you are amazing! I like the comment about free counselling
Laurie - I hope the burning thing goes away as you heal. 60 people!!!!! Are you crazy! It should be lots of fun though.
Well ladies, I went back to work today full-time. I am a health care analyst so it's pretty laid back and it's a desk job so I don't do anything strenuous. I was off for a full 8 weeks but it just flew by. I have a fill on Thursday and then on Friday I get my BRCA test results in the afternoon. So nervous about those. The geneticist thought that it's likely I am positive since I had just turned 33 at diagnosis. I have no clue what I'll do if I'm positive, the ovarian cancer terrifies me and I can't get them out because I'm er+ so I can't take any hormones. The docs all agree it's a bad idea to remove them at 34. Cross your fingers for me for Friday ladies, I need all the luck I can get.
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JillyG: I will be praying for you and sending positive thoughts your way so that you get good news on Friday. I hope your first day back at work is a good one!
Joystars!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! What a perfect name for your daughter. I love it!! Vida.
And, you are so right. In a very real way, you have life growing within you. She is a fighter, just like you! Your post made my day!
I just got back from the hospital, where I did all my pre-admission testing and paperwork. All systems are go for my exchange surgery on Wednesday at 1:30 PM. It's weird that all of this stuff has become so routine to me. Need a blood test? Here's my arm. EKG? No problem. Tomorrow I will go see the PS for my pre-op. It all gets me one step closer to being DONE for realz!! Except for stupid Tamoxifen. Joystars, I'm scared about the side effects, too. But, I'll take it one day at a time.
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Joy- so happy for you, congratulations!!! Stay focused on your beautiful miracle and your wonderful husband. You have such happy times ahead of you.
Jilly- Good luck, I will be sending my positive vibes your way as well. If it gives you hope, we all expected me to have the gene too where I was diagnosed at 34-and I don't. So my fingers are crossed. Keep us posted. I hope your work week goes well too!
Getty- Good luck with your surgery Wednesday! I know it will go great and you will do beautifully. I hope you don't get nervous. I'll send my prayers and love your way.
Melissa- So good to see your post, don't move book cases! I hope you continue to heal well and relax when you can. Sometimes it is easier said than done.
Yes, I was nuts to have that many people but it all went really well and we had a great time. The food all got eaten and the cab company must have made a fortune off us, no one could drive home from our place! It was a very drunken evening filled with funny stories and lots of laughter. I went to bed at 2 am- the last one awake in my house with about 6 people camped out on air mattresses couches etc. I didn't realize how drunk I was until I laid down! It was all good though. Woke up and made a huge breakfast for everyone, had some juice and a shower and felt all better:) We had a lazy day yesterday lounging around with the kids and happy it was raining and we didn't have to do anything.
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Laurie, that does give me ALOT of hope. I kind of assumed that it had to be genetci being so young, you have proved that wrong! The suspense is killing me, but I'm sure Friday will be here before I know it. The geneticist did say that because it's so rare in women under 35 that even if I come back negative that there is likely a genetic factor involved. They only know of BRCA1 and BRCA2 but there are other genes out there that they just haven't identified. That's kind of interesting. She indicated that they just 'aren't there' yet to identify others.
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almagetty What type of implants are you using? The closer I come to my exchange and the more I read, the more nervous I get
I was a bit upset to read that they only last about 3 years, and all the other issues involved. I see no end to any of this anymore.
JOY !!! What wonderful news. I was up in the wee hours and read that today was the day you would find out. I went back to bed thinking about your baby and honestly felt it was a boy...lol I am so happy for you THREE !!.
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Jilly- I absolutely do think there is some genetic link for me. I actually agreed to be part of a study looking for a new genetic link. Dana Farber is looking for a link in women who have french Canadian heritage. My family is almost all french, a little Irish sprinkled in for fun with a dash of Indian. The woman I met with said that they see very often in French Canadian families where no one has the gene, but it's rampant through the family. So there must be something else....which sucks but at least they are looking so future generations can be proactive.
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Ducki: My PS said that my implant should last at the very least 10 years, but he expects for it to last for 20-25 years. I've never heard of them lasting only 3 years. I've decided to go with a silicone implant. It is cohesive gel, the ones they call gummi's. The PS said that it's not the fully cohesive gel that is in use in Europe. I'll get all the specs tomorrow when I go for my pre-op. He's also going to do a little bit of lipo to get rid of my "dog ear". He said that I can expect to wake up with a nasty bruise from the lipo.
Laurie: So glad to hear your party was a success! Taxi's and air mattresses mean that everyone had a blast! I appreciate the prayers and the love!
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Ducki: My PS said that my implant should last at the very least 10 years, but he expects for it to last for 20-25 years. I've never heard of them lasting only 3 years. I've decided to go with a silicone implant. It is cohesive gel, the ones they call gummi's. The PS said that it's not the fully cohesive gel that is in use in Europe. I'll get all the specs tomorrow when I go for my pre-op. He's also going to do a little bit of lipo to get rid of my "dog ear". He said that I can expect to wake up with a nasty bruise from the lipo.
Laurie: So glad to hear your party was a success! Taxi's and air mattresses mean that everyone had a blast! I appreciate the prayers and the love!
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Getty- I didn't know you could get gummies in the US? I am going to ask Thursday when I go for my fill what he plans on using for my implants as well. Even if I don't exchange for awhile I am curious. Also, Ducki, my PS said my implants would be good for 10-15 years as well. Just an FYI.
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almagetty I do feel so much better now.. Thanks
I was reading a booklet he gave me and it details all the pro's and con's. It kept talking about 3 years and then reoperations. I will also have my list of ? ready when I go for my pre op session. I assume the "dog ears" are the funny puckery looking part. Please let me know everything you find out. Thanks again.. Hugs
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Laurie: I'll get the full spec's tomorrow. I know that there are some surgeons in the US that are using the European type gummies on a trial basis. The PS called mine a gummy without any prompting from me, but he did qualify it with saying that they weren't the European ones. If I remember correctly, he said the difference was that the gummies approved for use in the US have some liquid silicone in them in addition to the cohesive gel, while the European ones are purely cohesive gel. He gave me one to play with while I sat there. lol. My TE is made by Natrelle, and I think the implant is also by them.
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Laurie08 Thanks for your imput too Laurie. I guess with so much we have had to digest in the past few weeks, asking questions about the actual implant never crossed my mind. What little I have left lol. My PS did tell me silicon was safer now and that was his choice. He said if his wife needed this, he would use that with her. He said it was easier to use and looked and felt more normal. Never heard of a gummi ....humm..
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Ducki: Yes. The dog ear is the silly looking fat pouch that has formed on the underarm side of the TE. I'll post whatever information I get from him tomorrow.
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Ducki: I just posted in the Exchange City thread that before my Mx and TE placement, I had a list of questions for my PS that was a full page long. For this surgery, I don't know what questions to ask. lol. I think it's because either my brain is fried after all these surgeries or I've grown to trust my PS a lot over the past few months and believe that he knows what he's doing without me obsessing over it. It's probably because my brain is fried. Ha!
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JOYSTARS: that's the perfect name for your little girl!
I can't believe what some of you women are up to....Laurie a party for 60?!! some going back to work full time....plus a lot of other stuff. Yesterday I took a 3 hr nap and today a 2 hr nap plus I laid around most of the day and read a book for fun! I have been absolutely exhausted and I felt better today so hopefully I just needed to catch up on my rest.
PT today for my shoulder that is still contrary, tomorrow bone scan and PS for a fill, Wednesday my simulation for radiation....does it ever end?! lol!
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Congratulatios Jeanne!! A fantastic accomplishment especially with all you have been through! You are an inspiration!
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Joystars Congratulations--a girl! I love the name you and your DH chose--Vida is perfect! She will be the joy of your life.
It's good to see so many people back on the boards. Glad you had a great party, Laurie. That's a major event with 60 people! It's wonderful to have so many good friends.
My comment on implants: I have Natrelle cohesive gel implants by Allergan. My PS said that gummies were not approved by the FDA yet but she is hoping for it soon. Perhaps your doctor has some sort of special approval to use them? My implants feel and look very natural. It's been two months since my one step and my left breast looks awesome (its my natural breast) and my right "foob" is coming along, too. It is less stiff now and beginning to move a little bit like the other one. It feels natural. My scars are fading...the mx scar looks lighter than the implant scar!
The yoga retreat was wonderful--it is technically "Holy Yoga" which is true yoga but with a Christian focus. I highly recommend yoga to you when your dr okays you to resume normal activity. I was able to really stretch for the first time--I could not believe how tight my chest and shoulders were. I participated in at least two yoga classes each day and even went on a 2 hour hike! We swam and ate the most wonderful food! Now that I am home, I am committed to going to Holy Yoga three times a week (just went tonight and it was invigorating). Classes are free. Holy Yoga has been around since 2005 and there are classes in many states and some parts of Canada.I feel so encouraged, that I am going to get back to my original strength!
Take care ladies!
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Joystars - thats fantastic news........ I'm so happy for you x
Getty - best of luck for tomorrow - thinking about you x
Speech - did you get two scars? I'm having one step on 31st aug, and I think it's all happening through the Mx scar... I wish I were two months down the line like you, you are doing fantastic
.... I'm dreading next week.....
You girls are all fantastic inspiration, LOL to you all
Robin x
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speech529 Thank you so much for your info. I am feeling a bit more encouraged. I should have asked about this before. I am assuming the incision was under the breast for these implants? Did they have to readjust your nipple on the real side? My PS says he will make my real one a little higher to allow for natural sagging. Did yours do that?
almagetty I have gotten to that point too. I guess I am resigned and tired. I just trust my PS in his decisions. I am so looking forward to hearing all about your exchange.
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Best of luck to Jeanne with the future plans. I just registered for my first class in a long time
I am reminded by reading to make that appt with the Oncologist that I never did but also expect to be in and out. Yes, I had a Pet Scan and Brain MRI prior to my double mx. I didn't want to do the extensive DIEP if I was dealing with other issues. Also, another hospital wanted to put expanders in without doing these tests and plan a DIEP later. I didn't want to go throught all those extra appts and the extra surgery.
The Echo is an ultrasound the measures amoung other things, ejection fraction (See wiki) and is good to get a baseline before some chemotherapy.
Happy continued recovery ladies!
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Robin: I'm sure you're relieved that your surgery date is almost here, finally! I'll be thinking of you next week and saying some prayers for a successful surgery and an easy recovery.
I just got back from the PS. I did come up with a whole list of questions, which were all duly answered. He will be using Mentor cohesive gel, moderate profile plus. He will have 3 sizes with him in surgery (450, 475 & 500cc) and will decide which one is the best match during the surgery. All silicone implants in use today are cohesive gel, which are slightly gummy in consistency if you cut them open. They are not the gummies that are used in Europe.
All systems are go for tomorrow ...
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almagetty - good luck tomorrow!
Well, I met with a new PCP today, figured I would go to dr's all in the same system, that way they can see all my tests, etc. Good news is I really liked her! How often does a doctor spend almost an hour when they first met you? And, I succeeded in getting a referral for physical therapy. My left arm and shoulder are still bothering me and it has been over 2 months now since surgery.
Also getting a bone density test as baseline, since I am in menopause thanks to the ooph surgery. She ordered that too. Love her! And the best part is, they are now offering patient access on line to view all test results.
Hair seems to be growing very slowly, probably because of the Herceptin. Or it could be me checking it like 5 times a day.
The place that is treating me offers a yearly symposium for young women with breast cancer. They raised the age from 40 to 45, so now I can go being 43 and all. It includes breakfast and lunch, a swap table were you can get rid of extra hats, scarfs, books on bc, etc., and also get stuff for yourself, and booths about nutrition, physical therapy, healthy living, etc. And best of all, it is free! I signed up today.
Not much else happening out my way - Cards are finally winning! (had to throw that out there!)
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