Diagnosed w/DCIS yesterday

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  • speech529
    speech529 Member Posts: 337
    edited August 2010

    Robynkk

    That sounds terrible....did they not realize the excrutiating pain you were in after you passed out?  That just enranges me.  Kate33 said it right.

    The waiting is the worst and all the appointments....it is a surreal experience.  I hope you get good news.

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    Dr. Holmes called this afternoon, said to call him on MONDAY, results weren't in yet!  Argh!!!

  • dcchef
    dcchef Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2010

    Hi Robynkk,  Waiting is the worst!  Hopefully you will have good news on Monday.  

    I just went through a waiting experience with my sister.  She had her routine mammo and was called back.  She had been called back a couple of other times, we both have dense breasts.  After the call back the radiologist came out (never good) and said she should have a stereo biopsy.  She called me and was scared, but calm.  I told her it was very likely that it was precautionary due to my DCIS.   She had her biopsy on Monday and got the results on Wednesday, completely benign!!  I was so happy for her.  I am actually glad they got her calcifications out, hopefully there will not be more in the future for either of us.

    I sending good thoughts for you Robyn.  Keep us posted.  

    dcchef 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2010
    robyn- LOL!  I think that is why I always have female doctors.  I think, if nothing else, maybe they can empathize with how it feels.  I still remember a woman posting that she had been sent home post MX with NO pain meds and wondered if this was normal.  (Oh course, 50 women posted HELL NO!!!)  He told her she could just take Tylenol.  I told her to ask him how he would feel to have his penis sliced down the middle, all the tissue removed, sewed back up and sent home the next day.  Do you think he would need pain meds?  Unbelievable!  I swear sometimes the treatment of this disease feels like we're still in the dark ages.  Anyway, excuse my rant.  I think I'm a little crabby today.Yell
  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    FINALLY heard back from dr. holmes today!  waiting 3-4 days turned into a WEEK but i guess they had to send it out to be dyed or ??  Well, i now have ADH, DCIS and Invasive Cancer. Not only is it NOT better than DCIS it's worse and I didn't even know that was option.  Today was hard, we're on vacation, my husband broke down today and cried a lot, it's so hard seeing him go through this.  We're about to celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary.  We were in an antique store and I had to go to the bathroom to throw up but I felt better then!  My stomach is still killing me, boobs feel fine :)  My husband asked me today if there was a forum for husband's of women with breast cancer, he was kidding but I wish there was someone he could talk to.  I'm actually good today, at least I KNOW, waiting was the worse.  So glad I have you ladies!! 

    Robyn

  • CandDsMom
    CandDsMom Member Posts: 387
    edited August 2010

    So sorry to hear the latest news.  This has been an unbelievable roller coaster for you.  Keep hanging in there - did the Dr give you any info as to follow up re: treatment options?

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    I asked him about chemo and he said he'd know when he got in there, during surgery, if and how far it has spread whether or not I'll have to have chemo but he thought probably not.  But then again he thought I had ADH so??? :)  thank you for your good thoughts, being able to talk to women here means a lot to me!

    Robyn

  • speech529
    speech529 Member Posts: 337
    edited August 2010

    Robynkk--I am so sad to read your post--such devastating news for you and your husband.  I hope you get all your questions answered.  There is a forum on this website for men.  Your husband sounds like a very loving, supportive guy. 

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    speech529

    My husband is the best, I feel worse for him than for myself.  I start school next week so that will keep me distracted, 200 teenagers have a way of doing that :)  I am glad they will be able to do the DMX w/immediate reconstruction and I won't have to have TE's.  Kind of worried about what the nipples will look like but it is what it is I guess! :)

  • dmorgan2
    dmorgan2 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2010

    Hi Robynkk,

    I have just read your entire story since the beginning. I was hoping, as I was reading, that the results were DCIS or better. I'm sorry. But it sounds like you're in the "fight mode" and that's a good thing! We've all had to be.

    My ordeal was a year ago and it's hard to believe that I went through it all. It all kind of feels like  a dream. I see you're a teacher. I am too. I decided last fall to continue to teach. I felt like I needed to keep my mind occupied. It really helped! I can remember writing on the board and thinking: I have breast cancer!  It took a while for it to really soak in.  I had my biopsy on the first day of classes! It was a wild ride to continue to teach, but glad I did.

    You have my prayers. Keep us posted. We have all been there and we care and can feel everything you're going through.

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    dmorgan2,

    How long did you have to take off of work?  I have my surgery schedules for Sept. 23rd, I did that so I could get my classes all in order before I took off.  They said I would need to take off 4-6 weeks but that seems like a LONG time? I teach seniors and I'll probably tell them right before I leave but ???  How was your recovery?  Any tips?  Are you happy with your reconstruction?  Sorry for all the questions!  Thank you for replying!!

    Robyn

  • dcchef
    dcchef Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2010

    HI Robyn,

    I am sorry to hear your news.  You sound like a very strong woman and we are all here for you.  Everyone has their moments to break down and then recover.  Your husband can check out the support groups that are available.   You are in my thoughts.  Let us know how things are going.

    dcchef 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2010

    Robyn- I am so sorry to hear about your test results.  Everything must seem very overwhelming for you and your husband right now.  It will be difficult but once you have your treatment plan in place it does get a little easier because it seems then that you can take each challenge one step at a time.  We are all here for you for as long as you need us.

    Definitely encourage your husband to check out the forum for men.  There is also a book my BS recommended for us called "Breast Cancer Husband".  I know they have it on Amazon but may have it at your library, too, or even at a local cancer center.

    http://www.amazon.com/Breast-Cancer-Husband-Diagnosis-Treatment/dp/1579548334 

    Sending you lots of (((hugs))) 

  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited August 2010

    I am so sorry that your diagnosis was more than what you expected.  The year after I was diagnosed, I listened to one of Living Beyond Breast Cancer's teleconferences, and the expert on DCIS from Sloan Kettering was discussing that he recommends sending initial pathology off to several different labs, as they had done a random study on that issue, and had had several different opinions on the same slides, depending on which lab they had been sent to. They would go with the consensus before starting treatment. As Beesie stated, the problem lies in that some of those cells look so much alike, it can make it easier for a misdiagnosis.  My onc wants all ADH surgically biopsied as he says that they find invasive cells hidden in those specimens frequently.

    I know at this point you are just reeling from information overload.  Just take things one day at a time and believe me when I say that it does get better once you have your final treatment plan.

    In regards to your husband, our co-survivors need some support and understanding too.  Komen has a forum on their message boards called "Family, Friends, and Caregivers".  It is under the "Newcomers" section. Not sure if he still posts, but there is a co-survivor whose signature is Barry that I have come to adore.  He has been great about connecting with some of the husbands of the newly diagnosed.  I think he generally posts under his thread "World Turned Upside Down", or something like that.  Its been a while since I have chatted with him.  My husband is one who would rather chew off his own foot than reach out for support, so I was always disappointed that he would not take advantage of chatting with some of the guys on that forum.  There is also an advocacy group called menagainstbreastcancer.org.

    You and your family are in my prayers.

  • dmorgan2
    dmorgan2 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2010

    Hi Robyn,

    Is that your first name?

    You asked how long I took off from teaching. I only had a single mx, but I didn't teach for 2 weeks and then went back to sit and give final exams in December. So it's  alittle different than yours. Also, I didn't have reconstruction. So mine wasn't that bad at all. The pain was never bad (for a single). I took only Advil and was fine. Someone else will have to answer you who had the same proceedures that you're having. Also, I chose not to tell my students...don't know why...just felt like it was too personal for me to share. They knew I was having surgery, but didn't know why. I do think most people share it though. It's a personal choice I think.

    I think that's a good idea for you to get in there and get your classes established, etc. Then when you return, you'll pick right back up! You will have had about a month with them, right?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2010

    Robyn- The amount of time off you will need varies from person to person.  A lot of it has to do with the type of job you have and also your own pain thresh hold.  Your BS will give you a prescription for pain meds and you shouldn't drive as long as you are taking them.  I found I could pretty much get back to my normal schedule within 4 weeks, though.

    There are some good threads on here about preparing for your mastectomy.  One is called "Shopping/packing/to-do list for surgery + recovery" and the other is "Pre and post mastectomy tips".  They both have some great advice and tips that make things a little easier for you.  Not sure if this one is on there but ask your BS if you can get your prescriptions filled ahead of time.  It will be one less thing for your husband to do when you come back from the hospital.  Also, if you start hydrating a LOT with either water, gatorade, vitamin water, etc about a week before surgery and continue when you get home it will help you recover faster from the anesthesia which will make you feel so much better.  If you have any questions feel free to PM me any time. 

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    JennSmith,

    I'm afraid my husband is also a chewer (is that a word? :) My 6'5" ex-Marine would never reach out to anyone for help unfortunately, just seeing him in tears yesterday almost did me in.  He kept saying he wasn't "sticking around" if I wasn't here.  I said, I'm going to be fine!  I'll definately get him that book though!  He can read it when no one is looking! 

    Thank you ladies for all the tips, I will look at those sites and see how to prepare for surgery.  I think I'll play it by ear about telling the kids, they are seniors so most are 17-18 and I tend to share a lot about my personal life w/my students anyway, the funny stuff anyway, helps them relate to me as a person and make them more interested in my ever thrilling topics of Economics and Government :)

    Having my first grandchild in January gives me something to really look forward to.  I had my kids very young and so I thought I'd be a grandma by now :(  For now, just enjoying my last bit of vacation at the beach, didn't sleep too well last night, keep worrying if the "Staging" is off?  I just want these boobs OFF and want to be done w/all of this.  Don't know what I'd do w/out all of you to talk to and appreciate all of your advice soooooo much!!

    xxoo Robyn

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2010

    Robyn, I'm sorry to hear about your pathology report from the excisional biopsy.  It sounds as though your situation is very similar to mine.  I had only ADH show up in my stereotactic biopsy and then I had ADH, DCIS and a microinvasion of IDC all turn up in my excisional biopsy.  Not a very pleasant surprise, I know! 

    Although I appreciate that your doctor doesn't know how much IDC you have and can't say whether or not you'll need chemo until after your next surgery, he should know how much DCIS and IDC was in the excisional biopsy sample.  Do you have that information?  If most of the breast tissue had DCIS with only a little bit of IDC, then based on what my surgeon told me when I was going through this, the odds are quite good that not much more IDC will be found, if any at all.  On the other hand, if the excisional biopsy sample showed more IDC than DCIS, and particularly if the IDC was near the margins, then it's impossible to know how much more might be found. 

    And that leads to another question.  Did you have clean margins after the excisional biopsy?  Or if not, was there just one or two dirty margins or many?  After my excisional biopsy, I had DCIS in two separate areas and every margin in both areas had DCIS cells; obviously there was no question that there was more DCIS in my breast.  But the more clean margins you have, the lower the chance that much more cancer (either DCIS or IDC) will be found. 

    So although it's impossible to have a complete picture of your final diagnosis after this excisional biospy, there should be more information available to you now that can provide some idea of what may be to come.  I also notice that you are HER2+.  Do you know if this testing was done on the IDC sample?  HER2 status is very important for invasive cancer, but it's not important at all for DCIS (it does not change the treatment for DCIS).  For those who have DCIS and IDC together, the HER2 status might not be the same for both the IDC and DCIS so it's very important that the IDC sample be tested. 

    Again, I'm sorry that you got bad news yesterday; hopefully the rest of the news from here is on in is good.

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    Beesie,

    I'm going to email my dr. and ask him all of the questions you just posted.  I'll let you know what he says, thank you so much!!  All I know is that he said there was Invasive cancer in both tissue samples that he took?  I remember saying on the phone "so it's everywhere" and he said "well in the samples we took".  ???  I actually don't remember much from the conversation, my husband was handing me a pen and paper and I just remember writing Stage 2 down for him to read.  I'm going to email him right now, I'll keep you posted, thank you so much!!

    Robyn

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    talked to dr. holmes today, I have ITC, not IDC or ILC.   i asked hiim all the questions, he didn't know about margins because he wasn't testing for that?  he didn't have the pathology report in front of him so he didn't know what percentage of the sample was ITC, DCIS or ADH?  he did say having ITC was more favorable than having the IDC or ILC?  going to research ITC now.  thank you ladies for all of your help!  robyn

  • dmorgan2
    dmorgan2 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2010

    Robyn, That's encouraging news for you! So glad!

    Still praying for you--

  • mom3band1g
    mom3band1g Member Posts: 817
    edited August 2010

    forgive me...but what is ITC?

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    after doing some research, it's a rare subgroup of IDC.  The T stands for Tubular.  It's supposed to be less aggressive than IDC, so that's good but we'll see.  So far the odds haven't been in my favor! 

  • dmorgan2
    dmorgan2 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2010

    Robyn,

    How are you doing?

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited August 2010

    robynkk - I also had implants pre-BC.  I had a BMX mainly because I tested positive for the BRCA1 gene, but also because I thought I've had breast surgery before - I can do this again!  BMX and Reconstruction wasn't as "easy" as augmentation, but I think having augmentation helped me prepare for it.  PM me any time you have questions!

    Good luck!  I hope everything goes okay for you!  Take care.   

  • robynkk
    robynkk Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2010

    dmorgan2 I'm good.  Had a bad day Friday.  I kept feeling all this like stabbing pain in my left breast, so at work I googled it, of course it comes back and says only very LATE stage breast cancer patients can actually FEEL anything, I start to cry then have to get it together because the bell is ringing after lunch and I have 46 students walking in.  So we took off Sat. and are at the beach! :)  I feel better already!  I'm sure what I was feeling was probably from the surgical biopsy?  There's about a 6" incision and they took 2 large samples, there has to be some feeling with that??  I am regretting waiting so long for my surgery though.  Sept. 23rd seems very far, I should have just done it but wanted to get my classes all settled first. 

    kittycat i have a TON of questions for you :)  i will PM you!  thank you!!

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2010

    Robyn, it's good to hear from you... I was wondering how you were doing. 

    About the stabbing pain in your breast, yes, it's most likely from the surgical biopsy.  I had a lot of breast tissue removed during my surgical biopsy too and for quite some time afterwards I had exactly the same sort of sharp stabbing pains.  In fact I had those pains right up until I had the mastectomy - I think they were caused by the nerves regenerating and the breast tissue moving around and filling in the spots where breast tissue was removed.  Since I've had the mastectomy, now when I get those same pains (and I still sometimes do) at least I know that they are all in my mind... good old phantom pains!

    September 23rd will come around soon and all the waiting will be over with!

  • mom3band1g
    mom3band1g Member Posts: 817
    edited August 2010

    I too had those stabbing pains after my lumpectomy.  I agree with Beesie, nerves regenerating.  They had finally stopped and then I had the mast!

  • georgianna
    georgianna Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2010

    why do they do that...wouldn't it be better to freeze then put you in the vice of pain?

    I don't get that. I had the same thing done at Women's College in Toronto, and I was crying while mine was being done. Just closed my eyes but I could feel the blood dripping down my neck from the small incision. It was horrific!

  • dmorgan2
    dmorgan2 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2010

    HI Robyn,

    I'm sorry you've experienced all that.  You got some good responses about the breast pains.

    I think your crying and being emotional and googling things, ETC. are all things we've done!!! It's easy to let our imaginations run wild and to cry at the drop of a hat. Waiting for the surgery is some of the hardest time! After your surgery, you will "feel" so much better as far as the anxiety, etc.  I'm thinking that if your BS really thought you NEEDED the surgery sooner than Sept.23, he/she would have told you  that or encouraged you to have it sooner. I remember asking my BS if I could wait until May to have my surgery (when the semester ended). His answer: "Absolutley not!"  (That would have made me be waiting 9 months since DX.) 

    All of a sudden, you will be saying...OMGosh, how did the date get here so soon!?

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