Starting chemo Sept 05
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Hi all
Lots of postings, lots of sharing, a little whinging (venting), lots of laughter the best medicine of all.
Cant believe that I first went to GP on 29th June and here almost 4 months months later, minus my right boob and 21 lymph nodes (1 infected), have a Hickman line in my left side and am now a baldie. I started treatment (Epirubicin) on 13 September and have now had 2 lots of treatment (hate the proper word). First lot I sailed through with minimal side effects, second hit me 2 days after WAM 2 days on the settee and my line arm is so painful at the moment. I am glad I am at the hospital tomorrow to have line flushed, I am hoping they will tell me what is causing me pain in my arm as I am living on paracetomal at the moment.
This is my whinging time newbies and it is so good to have a place to do this because we have to very often keep the smile on face-to-face with family members as we have to remember they are suffering as well as us and although they care for and love us, they cant truly know what we are feeling.
So what I am trying to say newbies, say whatever you feel here on this board we are all here to hear and share what you are feeling. I am usually very positive and will be smiling again in a few days, it is just I have had a few bad days and whilst I think Breast Cancer Awareness month is brilliant, so early in my treatment I just feel my condition is being highlighted all around me. Perhaps I am still in denial??
Anyway as already said, there are good things to learn from this. We live only once and if life needs to be changed, have the courage to do so. Love a lot, live a lot and learn a lot from the experience.
Bio: From the UK. Right Mastectomy 28 July. Invasive Ductal Carcinoma grade 3. Hormone Receptive positive (Is this all you require for Bio??).
Ok thats me finished whinging will try to post a happy, smiley posting later ladies.
Right off to bed to sleep on my back as both my right and left side are uncomfortable. Up until the last couple of days I had no problem sleeping on the line side.
Sandra from the UK -
Carol
Quote:
I dont want to go swimming without a boob I know you can get them to go into swimmers but what if your swimming and your boob floats out
This, too is my fear - and that other swimmers will think it is a giant jellyfish and run screaming from the water! -
Thanks so much for writing back. I'll let you know what we find out as we see the doc tomorrow. The Cardiologist seems concerned but not the onc. I'm about to say this is the last A I'm taking until I get a reasonable response about this heart pain. More soon,
g. -
Calico,
thanks for writing -- please let me know what they tell you when you explain you have these palpitations. I'll let you know what the onc says tomorrow. take care,
g. -
Sayings that I like to live my life by:
Live each day as if it was your last
All good things must come to end
Don't worry be happy
Only things certain in life are death and taxes
My new one is
I have got cancer but cancer hasn't got me
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The white blood cell count is very scarry stuff and that is what landed me in the hospital for 3 days last week. I had the neulasta shot with my chemo the week before but my counts were at 70 and I started running a fever...anything under 500 and it get very dangerous. I think I know what happened....I had a breakfast meeting...I got my plate touched the tongs like everyone else ....then ate my bacon with my fingers...duh....stupid...but did not think about it until later...I also...stupid enough..had fresh fruit!
When I was in the hospital they would not let me have anything fresh...no fruit...no veggies...also..no fresh flowers because you would be surprised what you can get from those...It looks funny...but you can be heard...I had to wear a mask to try and keep anything more from getting me sick.
They gave me neupogen in the hospital when my counts were taking so long to come up..within 24 hours (on friday....) they were at 11500...
I felt so good after round two that I got careless...It wont happen this time!
Tina -
I am not pushing anything on anyone...but for those of you that might like it...this was sent to me by a friend...
Isaiah 41:10:
"Fear thou not; for I am with thee:
be not dismayed; for I am thy God:
I will strengthen thee;
yea, I will help thee;
yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness."
Sometimes...things need to be given to a higher power..
Tina -
Oh! you ladies!
First you make me cry..
Barb, I'm so sorry for the difficult decision that you and your father have to make.
And those of you going through pain, and discomfort, I hope you find relief soon.
Thanks Tina, for the reminder/warning.
But then you make me laugh..
those images of the boobs floating in the water. Now I know if I see a "jellyfish" in a pool, I'll know what it is.
I've just gotten home from my younger daughter's "Sweet Sixteen" birthday party. She invited a group of friends to a local restaurant. No muss, no fuss. It's finally cool enough so that I wore my "critter" on my head. I wore one of my scarves around my neck in case it got to be too much, but it was comfortable enough to last through dinner. My MIL was there, so she could see it in action. But, I was happy to whip it off on the ride home.
Peggy -
hi all
just a quick one from me to say hi!
I am 5 days post round 2 of chemo and FINALLY coming out the other end of feeling like crap. Will I ever get used to this tiredness??? It is just awful isn't it? My partner is away at the moment so I am staying with friends to help me look after my 4 month old and so I can rest. Thank goodness for good friends!
To those of you that have sent me a message lately- THANK YOU!! I replied today after finally figuring out how to work it all- did you get them??
Our website is finally up and running re: Herceptin. It is www.leannebradshaw.com if you would like to check it out. A friend did it over the past few days- pretty good I think.
Now the hair thing... Mine fell out by day 19! How is everyone managing to keep hold of it for so long?? I am just waiting on the eyebrowns and lashes now, not looking forward to looking even more like a "cancer patient". Do we ever get used to "looking sick"?
Also, in regards to WBC- what is this about fresh fruit and veg?? I am still so in the dark about everything sorry if I sound completely ignorant. I had my first ever nulasta shot on Thursday- would that be causing my back and hips to ache or something more sinister? Everytime I something hurts I am worried cancer is in my bones.
Sorry for rambling and asking so many questions, I am just honestly so relived to find somewhere to ask all my questions and post all my thoughts.
Love to you all
xoxo -
Dear Leanne,
What a beautiful woman you are, and the children.... so totally wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing your website with us. I am sure that I am not alone in the hope that Herceptin will be added to the list of approved drugs soon.
Keep up the good fight!
*susan*
p.s. About the raw foods.... with either Neuprogen or Neualsta, raw foods shouldn't be a huge issue since you are getting medication to boost your white blood cells, however, caution isn't a bad idea, especially since you have young children. Wash any raw foods extremely well. Wash the outside of any fruit, and then peel with a freshly cleaned knife. The idea is to reduce the amount of bacteria that your body has to contend with, so that your energy is being used to heal your cancer, not an infection. Washing your hands a lot also seems to be important.
p.p.s. The most common side effect of Neulasta is bone pain. I found that walking was helpful, but many woman do need to take some pain medication. Call your doctor and ask what they recommend. -
Pass the Whine
My self-pity party is officially over! Thank you all for the private messages which helped me move beyond my slump. My cycle has included a fever for the past two rounds, but this time, the fever only lasted 20 minutes! YEA!!!!!
Last night my family took me out to dinner to celebrate my birthday [a few days early so our daughter could be with us.] My husband gave me some earrings which look lovely without hair. Afterwards, we had 'movie' night, watching "Terminal" which was the perfect light, yet sweet, movie.
It is hard to believe that I will turn 47 this week with no hair, chemo-brain, and an abbreviated breast. Yet, I find myself thankful for so very much. I _found_ this tumor before it had traveled, I have a wonderful family and supportive friends, heck, I had hair to lose!
Again, thanks for everyone's support!
*susan* -
Jellyfish?
how funny is this??? Thank you for actually making me laugh out loud.
Here in the States, there is a company that makes very secure bathing suits for women like us. www.landsend.com
Perhaps this is helpful for you? Though I don't own one of these suits [the last time I wore a bathing suit, I was about 19,] friends who do own them say that they are the right combination of secure, sexy, with good coverage.
Just a thought!
*susan* -
Susan
I'm glad to hear you are feeling better.
We need you here to keep the rest of us going when we are feeling low, you are so good at it!
Leanne
Thank you for sharing your website with us.
Herceptin has just been approved in the UK for early stage BC. Here's hoping Australia follows suit sooner rather than later. Good luck with the fundraising.
Have a good day ladies
Maxine -
Hi there everyone - Monique here after a while. I have had my first chemo last week Wednesday - boy have I been sick. Yesterday was the first day I have been able to eat anything.Have lost 4.5kg!! They gave me tablets - but just did not keep those down.I spent the day in the shop yesterday and most of today. Had my hair cut short this afternoon. I find my self sweating alot espicially in my face,is this normal? Sensitive teeth almost immediatly.
Anyway today I am on top of the world and heres hoping the next two weeks will be better.
Thanks for all the info you all share with us.
Till next time! Love to all and lots of preyers
Monique -
Hey I never noticed the smileys are bald too funky.
I have read what some of you are going through in addition to why we are all on this board, and also what you have gone through I hurt for you how much more can life hurl. We have to look at all the happy times which very often outweigh the bad ones.
Maxine I was even more down in the dumps today I split the zip in a pair of trousers!!
What is a MUGA test assuming it is something to test heart??
I gave my hair to my husband to put in his bird aviary quite liked the idea of my hair being used for a nest to keep little chicks warm.
Aussie-mum yeahh I have seen the movie floods I particularly like I have (had) C but the C hasnt got me thats what we have to say and believe ladies.
Went for my line flush today and my arm still hurts badly seems I may have a blood clot (grhhhh) blood-thinning injection in stomach back to hospital for 8.30 am in the morning for ultra-sound and to see onc specialist out of the window goes my Tuesday social activities. They said they hope to sort the problem out and at worst the line will have to come out I am so disappointed as I have had little problem with the line and can see the benefits of having it.
Speak soon ladies.
Sandra from the UK -
Hey Leanne,
Great website. You and your family are beautiful.
Quite an undertaking for Scott. I pulled out an atlas to check his route. I hope it's a great success.
Happy Birthday Susan!
I'm glad you were able to celebrate with your daughter. I hope you enjoy your next trip around the sun! (from a Jimmy Buffett song.)Wishing you happiness and a return to complete health!
Maxine,
While I had my atlas out I checked on Guernsey, too. I didn't realize that you were so close to France! How often do you leave the island? How long does it take you to get to the rest of the UK?
Monique,
Nice to hear from you again. Sorry that you had a tough time, but I hope that the next couple of weeks are good. Try to rest when you need to. Does your quilt shop allow for that? (By the way, I sew, too, but mostly alterations on costumes, but I've collected some quilt books for "when I retire"). Of course, with the atlas on my lap right now, I've found South Africa, but it's not detailed enough to show where Hillcrest is.
What an international group this afternoon!
Sandra from the UK
Hopefully they'll be able to solve your problem without taking out your line.
I am thinking about getting a map of the world to mark everyone's location. I think we have the US covered from East to West, North to South and around the world!
I hope all of you who were treated last week are doing well.
I am going for A/C #4 (last!) tomorrow.
Take care,
Peggy -
Peggy,
Your last AC treatment!
You started this thread, and the first to finish I think? What a trailblazer you are.
Hope all goes well today. As you are thinking of all those people in your atlas, we'll be focussing right back at you.
How are you feeling inside about the last AC? Are you following up with __?
Keep strong! Celebrate even! -
Not quite finished yet.
After, I'm scheduled for 4 tx of taxol which the nurses have assured me is much easier, but I've been poking around some earlier month threads that lead me to believe that it won't be a walk in the park. I know every individual is totally different but I think after I get through tomorrow I may post a new thread to compile some experiences and remedies.
Anyway tomorrow is theoretically my halfway point through chemo so I will be celebrating at some point.
And cheering everyone else toward the finish line.
Peggy -
Sandra
So sorry you are feeling down in the dumps over your trousers. How many treatments are you having, and what are they? i'm sure you've already told me, but I cant remember...sorry.
I'm on FEC x 8 (which includes epirubicin).
I hope they manage to sort your hickman line out, a problem with that is the last thing you need. I have a
Groshong catheter which is very similar, no problems so far.
Peggy
Good to hear you are almost halfway through....YEAH
Is Taxol the end of treatment for you or will you be having rads as well?
Here in Guernsey we are very close to France, but we are british.
It takes about 40 minutes to fly to London from here which isn't too bad. We have out own government here and our own currency, which is worth the same as the english equivalent, english money can be used here as well.
Good luck to all the ladies having treatment this week.
Be strong
Maxine -
HI all you lovely ladies!
I think I am about to become a discussion board addict...
Well after cruising quite well through the past few days I now have kidney pain-UGH. Unfortunately I was only born with the 1 so any pain is a bit of a big deal so off to the doc's today to get that sorted out. Naturally am terrified it is worse than an infection... Will get this ruled out first then worry about the bigger things later I guess!
Thanks to you all for your kind words about our new website. I am very proud! I am expecting a box of cheques today so I am very excited!! Our big aim as I have mentioned is to start up a Herceptin fund for other patients so fingers crossed we get plenty!
Maxine- quick question.. when did Herceptin go on the list in the Uk? did it have anything to do with the lady who was suing for not being allowed to have free access to it? Very interested to hear how that came about. Perhaps I should try the same over here!!
Oops, gotta dash, time for dr appt.
xooxox -
Monique,
The only thing that worked for me was Phenegren suppositories. I know none of us likes them but they do work for the nausea and you don't have to worry about throwing them UP!
Good luck!
Tina -
Carol
My 3 E/C was on monday also. I have to laugh at the boob and swimming thing. I was swimming and diving with my 17 year old niece right before all this. Well every time I dove my right boob , the one with the tumor, would always come out the side of my suit. Well after my mascectomy, I warned her that if we go swimming, the next time my boobs come out, she would have to go back to the deep end and bring them back to me. I said to tell the handsome young lifeguard, "Excuse me, but my aunts boobs are floating out there and we'll need to rescue them." She laughed but everytime they went to the pool she would cautiously ask if I was joining them. I never did get back to swimming this year. If you really are worried You could velcro the top of pocket that the boob goes in so even if it floated it wouldn't get away. I would ask whoever does the prostesis work for you, because I am sure the situation has already been addressed. -
I had a rough treatment Monday, here is the whining. First I went to have blood taken out of my port. They can only try twice and nothing came out but fluid would go in. She described how the cath was resting against the vein so it was like sucking into the bottom of a cup with a straw. Next she tried several different body positions that didn't work. Then she had to go for one of the lousy veins in my arm. Luckily it worked for her.
Then I got my test results from my muga from the doctor. Found out that my heart function isn,t down at 84% like I thought he said at my first treatment, but ony at 54% like my lung function. I was too dismayed at this report to say, "What the heck? Do I have the life expectany of a old dog or what?" Then he smiled and and told me my latest test was great I was at 53% so my heart was not being damaged? So what is the low number when everyone else but me stops being so happy about it??? I complained about numerous other problems I thought he might worry about but he just looked at the blood test resutls, told me they were great and declared me healthy enough for round 3. Although I was glad to stay on schedule I felt like slapping him in the back of the head and off his stool. If I didn't love him and had a little decadron I might have hit him.
I was worried about the chemo nurse accessing the lousy port. On the first try she got nothing then she said lean forward and hug yourself. (If any of you have this problem this works)I bled like a stuck pig and we were both happy. The nurse also dripped my chemo extra slow to help eleviate future sinus problems. Chemo nurse gets a gold star!!!
I ate fries on the way home from chemo and they tasted great. Later I ate some beef gravy I made a special request to my mother in law to make me some. It too tasted great .... the first time. The second time it was going in the opposite direction and wasn't so great. I gave the rest of it to the dog and he loved it. I will never request it again. The rest of the evening I spent trying to sleep knowing I would feel better in the morning. At 4AM I was much better and ready to converse with my hubby who would probably have waited until 6AM. By 5:30 I had to move so I came to boards they are always awake and ready to listen.
Well enough whining. I guess while I still feel good it is time to be productive. -
Hi Monique,
I started sweating too around the face but on the outside of my nose and upper lip . It is definitel weird. I think I do it more when my wig is on. Nothing else feels hot or sweaty. If I don't wear something on my head I get too chilly. There isn't a whole lot that is normal about chemo. -
Norine,
Perhaps I should pass the "Decadron-Inspired Posting" signature onto you for the week? I think you could use it wisely. :-)
I love the idea of trying to chat with your husband at 4am. He probably doesn't know what hit him! During my decadron days, I think my husband may just play a little tape-loop with his voice saying "uh huh."
The MUGA scores are interesting aren't they? I thought my score seemed low, but it turns out that no one is above 80%. Don't know what that means, but I guess we have to trust that the docs know what these percentages actually mean.
I don't have a port, but gosh, I thought the whole idea was to make it easier! In the future, hugging yourself is in. And yes, the chemo nurses are amazing! In fact, I feel that I want to do something special for mine at my last treatment, but don't know what would be appropriate. Anyone have any ideas?
I hope that your day goes well....
*susan* -
Leanne
Yes i think it did have to do with the lady prepared to take the issue of Herceptin to the EU. She was granted this drug because she has a child who is terminally ill, and she is his only carer.
I dont think its actually available to UK early stage breast cancer patients yet, but it has been agreed (the day after the lady won her case). It now has to go through the normal medical channels before it can be prescribed, as with any other drug.
Hopefully they will rush this through.
Have a good day everyone.
Maxine -
Leanne,
Oh let us hope that your kidney is functioning well and that there is no infection! Please let us know how you are feeling today, and best of luck at the doctor's office.
Take care,
*susan* -
Peg,
Best of luck today! 50% done is something worth celebrating, in my opinion.
Sweet Sixteen.... what a lovely age that can be. Very smart of your daughter to not try to host the party in your non-existant kitchen.
[Still giggling about the 'critter.']
*susan* -
Hello,
seems like this is where I belong with you courageous folks. Had my 3rd AC on Thursday and am struggling with that shaky and achy feeling(neulasta) and already dreading round 4. Diagnosed Aug 1 with stage 2, had lumpectomy and sentinel node on Aug 5, went back for more nodes a week later. Two positive nodes, so started dose dense chemo Sept 8. First time seemed not so tiring but my hematocrit has dropped but not far enought to get procrit but yesterday could not get out of bed. Will have 4 tx with taxol afterwards, am wondering what my energy will be like then? Trying to work 3 days a week and be a single mom too. Any tips for the "brain fade" the chemo seems to induce as well?
Glad to have found this community! -
Hi lisa
Just wanted to welcome you to this thread.
I cant help with the AC, Taxol or neulasta shots as im on FEC every three weeks.
I dont know of anything we can do about the "chemo brain"
either, except go with the flow!
Somw of the other ladies will be along soon, they may have some tips for you.
Take care
Maxine
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