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  • Clarity04
    Clarity04 Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2010

    Bubbalu,

    Glad to have sister-friends in this fight.  I will keep in touch

  • cpjuly10
    cpjuly10 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2010

    Hello everyone! I'm a little late getting started here but glad I found you guys! I registered and looked around the site a couple of weeks ago but things have been crazy in my world lately so just now starting to post. First of all does anyone know how to post diagnosi info after the initial registration. I skipped it, not being sure of everything then and now cant find a way back to post it. It will let me edit personal info but can't find how to so that. So I have IDC as well as some as DC and it was found on a routine mammogram in June. I had a needle biopsy and then chose to go the lumpectomy, sentinel node route. My surgery was July 19th and thank God margins were clear and nothing in lymph nodes. I started my radiation treatments last week. My simulation was Mon. ant the first treatment was Aug 12th. I've had two treatments so far. I'm having 33 treatments total with 5 being the heavy bursts. I've been very nervous about the radiation as have most of you. My skin is pretty senstivive. I was a little leary of starting so soon after my surgery. My surgeon said 5 or 6 weeks but the radiation oncologist said I was healing nicely so could startl. I'm still having some pain around SN site and after two days of radiation it seems worse. I was trying to wear a sports bra because of work and house guests but that may have to go. My doctor prefers no bra at all to cut down on irritation. Where do you guys find camisols? They also say no creams or lotions of any kind unless they give it to me to use. They check skin once a week on doctor day but I probably will ask about it on Monday. I live in Indiana and we are having major heat and humidity which doesn't help a bit - lol! I go back to the onclogist Monday morning to get test results. Had to do test to see if I'm still ovulating as I've had a partial hysterectomy and also a bone density test. I have osteoarthritis in my knees and was ready for a total knee replacement when this came up. He will decide which med Tamoxifen or Arimidex I will start on. I have never had a hot flash or anything so I am not looking forward to that either. Any suggestions on the pain around SN site? I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and having some friends who are going thru this with me. Have great day all!!  Carole

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited August 2010

    Carole, If you go to the MY HOME tab  and click EDIT MY DIAGNOSIS you can add or edit anything you want.

     Welcome to our home, we are all just sisters here.  I've just finished 5 of 30 and am aleady getting abnormaly tired.  I don't start my hormones until after the rads. Since I've no ida what will happen.  Sure hope I don't go through that again.  Money mouth

    Good luck.

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited August 2010

    Carole, If you go to the MY HOME tab  and click EDIT MY DIAGNOSIS you can add or edit anything you want.

     Welcome to our home, we are all just sisters here.  I've just finished 5 of 30 and am aleady getting abnormaly tired.  I don't start my hormones until after the rads, so I've no idea what will happen.  Sure hope I don't go through that again.  Money mouth

    Good luck.

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    Carole, Chubba's right on the edit page. The 'Edit my Diagnosis' should take you right to what you need. If your looking to add anything extra just scroll down to the bottom and add what else you want in the signature space before your name. Glad to have you here with us, sorry you've had so much to deal with lately.

    Clarity, I do understand how you feel - it's been nine months since I began this journey and I'm ready to move on too. Hang in there with us, it can't be much longer.

    I go for simulation on Tuesday and probably will start on Thursday. All the information each of you has shared has helped me so much and I don't feel alone in this. It's helpful to read about the many questions we have and the discoveries (or answers) those who have started tx have made.

    Just want to thank everyone and say keep it up. This makes a difference.

  • againmine41
    againmine41 Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2010

    All your posts Lady's are such wealths of encouragement! That doesn't sound right, but tonight thats the best my brain can do. lol. Been using the Aquafor also and really does help. This heat does as much damage to my skin as the rads...and sometimes I think even more! So morning with the Aquafor, then night time Gentian Violet to hold back the fungi or what ever like the dark moist areas. Still looking like a two grapes on a vine. My nipple is beginning to crack, so I am using the Aquafor often this weekend.

    I started my Tomoxifin before rads and YES the hot flashes are awful! And when I take it in the morning, the first few hours my brain does not engage right and also off and on during the day. 

    Friday I felt like I was wearing heavy boots on my legs and was very fatigued..tech said it was the rad treatment (10 down!)

    I know I am rambling, but my thoughts seem to be in burst tonight...had a concern this morning...started having light vaginal bleeding and I have been menopausal for several years. Every little thing and I get parrinoid of what next.

  • DancerMel28
    DancerMel28 Member Posts: 122
    edited August 2010

    Hello ladies,

    I'm about to start Rads on Wednesday.  I had my planning session last week. My centre doesn't use tattoos so I've had to try and keep the texta markings on this week - HAS NOT worked well at all.  They put tapes over some of the marks but 2 have come off and some marks have disappeared altogether. They said not to worry if they came off but I thought most of them would stay on as they said I had to powder them and that they should stay on.  I hope this doesn't cause too much trouble on Wednesday - want to get started so that I'm finished!

    I saw my Onc last friday and she wants me to start the tamoxifen right away but my rads onc had said to wait (different centres - needed Rads to be closer to home). SO have to wait until I see rads doc again to see if he'll agree for me to start. His reasoning when I originally saw him was that there was a "theoretical concern" that the tamoxifen would interfeer with what the radiation was supposed to do. My onc says that is an old way of thinking but some centres still abide by that.  Obviously it just depends on where you're having treatment as to whether or not they want you to start both at same time or not.  Must say I'm not looking forward to the hotflashes returning - had them through chemo but they have virtually gone now (I'm 6 weeks post last chemo).

    Anyway, looking forward to chatting to you all. Mel xx

  • bonniewe
    bonniewe Member Posts: 42
    edited August 2010

    DancerMe128, hi!  not to start a huge discussion on the whether or not to start the hormone therapy before, during or after rads as I think there is a thread on that.  However, just wanted to let you know that my med onc wanted me to start Arimidex 2 weeks into radiation (today is #13 of 33 so would have started Arimidex today) however, when my rad onc found out, she was not happy.   Long story short, they talked and I start after radiation end of September. 

    Someone above mentioned their incision itching (I think that was this thread, although might have been July rad thread).   I'm itching like crazy!   Other than that and the nausea, no other side effects yet, the redness that I had with #3 rad treatment, went away.   Using my Miaderm and Aloe Vera.    I've had 2 "tatoos" fall off this weekend, so today they will have to re-mark me.   Have a great day everyone!

  • AnnieBear
    AnnieBear Member Posts: 96
    edited August 2010

    Hi all....  Pre-season football is upon us ! ! ! !   Something to take our minds off of treatment.  I went on Friday for my simulation and today I have my first real radiation treatment.  I have been wearing X's on my body which are covered by tape and today they will come off and I'll get my real tattoos.  My doctor said to use Aquaphor and/or Aloe Vera Gel.  I asked about starting Tamoxifen and she said it's fine to take it in conjunction with radiation.  I'll have to admit, I'm really scared since I have no idea how my skin will react.  Also, in addition to my boob, they will be using radiation under my arm.  I read that radiation can cause lympheda and I asked if there was a possibility I would end up with lymphedema and the doctor said not unless I'd had nodes removed.  I didn't have any removed.  Does anyone have any words of wisdom on this subject? 

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    So Bonnie,

         Your still having nausea? That nausea you had the other day must not have been dehydration. I didn't realize some people have nausea with radiation. I'm so sorry to hear that.

      I read somewhere - I think - that cortizone cream helps with the itching. Hope you can get over the nausea.

       Blessings, Carolyn

  • bonniewe
    bonniewe Member Posts: 42
    edited August 2010

    ECT,  I met with the radiation oncologist today and we discussed the nausea.   We both agreed that it probably was the extreme heat/humidity here in Ohio and the fact that I was spending alot of time outside in it.      Today it is cooler and I've stayed inside other than my 5 mile jog/walk this early morning.    For the itching, she wants me using the Aloe Vera and to NOT scratch it (that easier said than done).    Thank you for asking!!!

    Annie, relative to lymphedema, I've had it right after the surgery and was fitted with a compression sleeve.   The rad techs/nurse and onco are helping me by watching out for it to strike again so I am doing my massages to hopefully keep it at bay.    I also believe that you cannot get it if no nodes were removed.   Good luck and don't worry!

    #13 of 33 done, yeah team.    Rad onco said today that I will see some skin changes this week and probably more fatigue (oh joy of joys).    Hugs to all!

  • Lady_Madonna
    Lady_Madonna Member Posts: 472
    edited August 2010

    Bonnie,

    I had nausea last week sooo bad after rads and my rads onc was out of town, I met with the other doc and he acted like I was crazy, really pretty much blew me off!  I was NOT a happy camper even though it's hot here too and it could just be that, I KNOW when I'm having nausea!  I may have already told you I had nausea too, can't remember- chemo brain! 

    Anyway, hope you're feeling better and guess I just wanted to vent.  We're told to report, report, report our symptoms while we're going through chemo and then this guy just acted annoyed I was taking up his time...sheesh.  

    I'm feeling better this week anyway! :)

  • cpjuly10
    cpjuly10 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2010

    Treatment number three down! Long day today. Has an appt wirh my oncologist at 9:15, my doctor was busy so one of the new docs saw me and it was not a good thing. He started in at the beginning like nothing had been done and instead of discussing whether I'd take tamoxifen or arimidex wanted to talk about me possibly needing chemo and genetic testing. I told him that all three of my docs had agreed I didn't need chemo and that I had already started rads. He said that was a problem. Wanted me to come back next week after more tests. I left the office and went to see my patient councellor at the breast center. She calmed me down and then talked to my oncologist. Now he will see me himself next week and she told him of my frustrations with the new doctor. It seems everytime things start to settle down something happens to get me all emotional and unsure. by the time all this was done with I had my radiation treatment and it was time to go to work. No time to go home or even get lunch. I did find some cotton camisoles at Meier and ditched my sports bra today - it seems to have helped the iritation I was having. Thanks to those who answered my questions about adding my diagnosis. Hang in there everyone!!

  • arubajan05
    arubajan05 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    Hi all!  Treatment #7 down and just today I noticed that my skin is turning brown; other than that nothing on the exterior. Inside I seem to be having some sharp pains and my radiated breast is definitely warmer to the touch than the other.  I guess I am kind of waiting for the hammer to fall (but I hope it never does!).  I use Aloe as often as I can remember. So far, so good.

    Quick question, those of you that have had chemo before rads ... do any of you experience any allergic reactions on your skin i.e. hives, itching...?  I have been getting frequent skin reactions (in various places at different times) at least once every other day.  I did have a really bad reaction  2 weeks after chemo #2 and I had to get steroids.  My onc said she thought it was too far out from my treatment to be the chemo drugs but I have never had anything like that in my life.  Now, though it is milder, it is becoming a common event.  Just wondered if anyone else has experienced the same....?

    ((HUGS)) to all!

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    arubajan

        Sorry  I cannot help.  I haven't had any skin reactions like that, during chemo or since. Hope you can run down what it is, I'm sure it's annoying. Think it could be heat related?

        On my way to simulation, hoping to start on Thursday. I sure don't feel nervous about this but didn't sleep well and that's usually what I do when things bother me. Of course it could be chemopause related. Questions - questions??????  Laughing What's a women to do?

       Have great day all!!

            Carolyn

  • Lady_Madonna
    Lady_Madonna Member Posts: 472
    edited August 2010

    Arubajan, I have had and continue to have TERRIBLE skin problems, including hives, swelling, itching, rashes... you name it!  My skin is so sensitive I've begun taking a daily loratadine 10 mg and it seems to help.  I was going crazy! 

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2010

    AnnieBear and all,

    Just wanted to answer your question about risk of lymphedema. If you have had no nodes removed your risk is lower than if you had, but lymphedema can develop after any breast surgery (even without cancer -- breast reduction or augmentation as well). Radiation, especially of the axilla or supraclavicular nodes, does increase the risk, as does obesity or overweight. Still, slightly less than half of us who are treated for breast cancer will ever develop it, so it certainly isn't any sort of doom hung over our heads automatically.Smile

    Since we're all at some risk, though, it helps to know how you can reduce that risk. A few simple life-style changes can help keep you swell-free. Here are two web pages with reliable information about risk reduction:

    http://www.lymphnet.org   (See their Position Papers on Risk Reduction, Exercise, and Air Travel)

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm

    If you have questions or concerns, there's a Lymphedema After Surgery forum here at bc.org where you're more than welcome to post or lurk. Hope none of you ever have a "swell" time of it!

    Be well!
    Binney

  • cpjuly10
    cpjuly10 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2010
    A much needed day off for me today. I got treatment number four. Just a little tenderness but doesn't appear red yet. Of course I keep looking for changes and so far nothing. Just looks smaller and scarred like before.Laughing I am trying to drink more after the treatments because I do seem warmer and thirstier afterwards. Tomorrow is doctor day so we'll see if he has anything interesting to say. Not so hot and humid here today which definitely helps.
  • jsmiley60
    jsmiley60 Member Posts: 204
    edited August 2010

    Hello ladies! My simulation has been delayed until the 24th so that the plastic surgeon can have more time to get more saline in my tissue expanders. Got a lot in the fill today and am very sore.

    Does anybody else getting rads have tissue expanders in? I asked this before and don't think I got answers, but then I have chemo, old age, no hormones brain! lol!

  • EllieH7
    EllieH7 Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2010

    Hello everyone, well done my number 10/33 . So far so good . Just wanted to say Good Morning and God Bless You all.Ellie

  • ladym13
    ladym13 Member Posts: 251
    edited August 2010

    Hi all,

    I'm new to this group, started rads yesterday, 1 down 29 to go...lol

    I am really nervous about how the radiation will affect my skin since I am looking to get reconstruction in January/february. I had a left side mastectomy.

    Also curious as to why some Oncs make you wait until after rads to start the tomoxafin and some start it during.

    Mo

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited August 2010

    Welcome Mo, Good Morning all.  This morning is #8 of 35.  My girl is a bit pink and warm this morning and feels heavy and dense now. The "lumps and bumps" my surgeon warned me about right after surrgery are long gone but the overall density has changed.  Also, the skin has thickened in places.Thankfully there has not been much pain.

    Standing together, taking it one step at atime we'll pull through.

  • Clarity04
    Clarity04 Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2010

    Jsmiley 60,

    I am having rads with TE.  My last fill was Aug 6.  My PS and RAD onc seem to be fine with it.  All of my treatments are discussed at a breast conference with doctors from each discipline area meeting to draw up a plan.  For me the fill "discomfort" lasted about 48hours.  I received 50ccs each week.  I have a total of 450ccs now.  I am  over expanded to adjust for skin shrinkage. 

    ECT /Bubbalu

    I went for my final markings this morning.  My chest looks like a patch work quilt with bright blue tape.  They all assure me that it will wash off .  I am ready to start, not apprehensive just wanting to be over this next step.  Will let you know how it goes on Thursday.

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited August 2010

    Good morning ladies and welcome Ellie and ladym. I am beginning to think loratadine (claritin) is a miracle drug. I have really bad seasonal allergies so I have to start taking it in the early spring and take it until the winter. Before I started chemo (in May) I heard that claritin is good for bone pain resulting from the neulasta shot. After 4 neulasta shots I never had any bone pain (or rashes or itching). So far after treatment #6 of rads I'm having no issues. I wonder if I have claritin to thank for that.

    On the bra front I purchased a cotton (looks like a thin sportsbra) bra from the Gap for $15. It's 83% cotton, 17% lycra. It feels very comfortable. Its a nice change from the tank top/cami shelf bra things I've been wearing.

    ladym - there was some discussion on here about tamox during or after rads. I think there is a separate thread on here too. I'm starting after but it seems many people are starting during. I'm going to ask the rad onc about this when I see her next Tuesday.

  • AnnieBear
    AnnieBear Member Posts: 96
    edited August 2010

    Binney - thank you for the links. 

    I had treatment number two yesterday and everyone is asking if I'm fatigued yet ! ! ! !  I told them I think it takes a few more treatments before that happens.  I was telling the technicians about all of the horror stories I've heard and they told me to ignore them all and talk to them with any concerns I might have.  They said everyone will respond differently.  I am seeing blue veins appearing bluer on my chest and boob but so far that's all I've noticed.  They gave me permanent tattoos - four little black marks that look icky ! ! ! !  I plan to have small flowers tattooed over them when treatment is done....  Good luck to us all.

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

        Drim -  I have allergy problems too and had bad drainage during chemo. I took Claritin during that time and had no bone pain. Once I stopped chemo I discontinued the Claritin because I had little drainage. Since then I have had some bone pain so I'm starting it again. We'll see if it helps; it would be nice to have a miracle drug in some area.

       Clarity - I had my tattoos and CAT scan yesterday. Thot I was doing well - smooth sailing - then I had a hot flash right in the middle of it all. I was lying on my stomach so I started blowing, huffing and puffing between my breasts to cool down. Was embarrassing but I pulled thru it then collapsed at home. Embarassed

        I did ask about taking Tamoxifen while doing rads. My oncologist said he thot the jury was still out on that (something about it interfering with the radiation) he preferred to do them separate but that if the medical oncologist insisted he would just watch me carefully. I don't begin until after rads anyway, I was just interested in what they thot about it.

        Welcome Mo!    I will do reconstruction after the first of the year as well. My Lumpectomy was on my left side too. I'm curious if your radiation is done with you lying on your back or stomach. I will be having mine face down. I think one reason for that is to protect the heart and lungs. Could be where my cancer was located, a lot of thot goes into how and where they radiate I do know that. I hope to start this week - if not it'll be first of next week. Seems like I'm kinda anxious but really  - I have no reason to be, maybe it's just I'm a bit tired. It's amazing how all this effects your energy and your body just has a mind of it's own - sometimes it just shuts down when you want to keep going. ;-) 

    Blessings, Carolyn

  • janabananna
    janabananna Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2010

    Hi again everyone, and welcome to the newbies!  It is really nice to be part of this community/sisterhood.

    This morning I had rad #16 of 33 (tomorrow is half way!!!) and it is still going well.  I have some very slight reddening and am a bit tender, mostly around my node biopsy site, but nothing near what I was afraid it would be.  It is starting to itch though.  I have been going braless or wearing loose, front-fastening jog bras or camis with a shelf bra.  Am still taking 2 ibuprofen about twice a day (usually with breakfast and at bedtime, but sometimes in the afternoon too if I feel uncomfortable), and using Miaderm right after treatment (9:20 a.m.), in the afternoon, and again at bedtime.  Occasionally use Aquaphore on my nipple and incisions.  So far, so good!

    I had never thought about the possibility of having the radiation lying face down!  My cancer was on the left side as well at about the 12 o'clock position above my nipple, but I don't recall how deep it was.  My lumpectomy scar is about 5-1/2 inches long (is that average?) and starts in the aureola of my nipple and goes straight up.  My rad oncologist said my anatomy is "perfect" for radiation, though, as my heart and lungs are deep inside and away from the breast tissue.  I wonder if that is the difference? 

    I also have to have my right breast taped back out of the radiation field ... the tech told me it was because I am so "perky."  I told him they only look perky when I am lying down!

    Had a Herceptin treatment yesterday and came home and crashed into a deep sleep for about two hours ... wonder if it was the combo of radiation and Herceptin, as I've never been that tired after "Herceptin only" before!

    I am now 9 weeks out from my last chemo and my hair is starting to fill in, although I still have an almost bald area (about 3 inches x 2 inches) at the front of the old hairline above my right eye.  I also lost most of my right eyebrow last week (but not the left) ... I think maybe it was new growth pushing the old hairs out??  I look pretty funny (to me anyway) with just one eyebrow.  :-)  Still wearing scarves and expect to do so for at least another month. 

    AnnieBear - I'm excited that college football is almost upon us.  Go (Oregon) Ducks!!

    Take care and hang in there, everyone!

    - Jana

  • againmine41
    againmine41 Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2010

    Day 13 for me, all seem to blur together these days. Welcome to all the new girls! this is a great place to share, support, and learn! I have become very religious in using my Aquaphor, it helps so much even in the folds under my breast. I just couldn't stand the gentian violet anymore...the alcohol in it burned so bad. So no more purple grapes! 

     Janabananna,  Oh to be perky in any position would be nice! lol. When they move me around on the table...its like trying to harness Jello!

    AnnieBear , I like the idea of making the tattoos into flowers! Mine... circling bees! Hummm wonder where the hive should be? lol

    On another note: Tamoxifen...I started mine before rads. The On doctor wanted to start me before since I was high risk. (family history etc) And yes the hot flashes are a pain...but mine are slowing down some.

    Question to group: do any of you feel fatigued from rads? or is it the driving daily back and forth, the stress, etc. I just seem to be blah all the time, slow moving, mind fog, just not "me".

  • bubbalu
    bubbalu Member Posts: 177
    edited August 2010

    Hi ladies with skin issues:  I had my simulation on Monday, uneventful, just hard to keep that arm up so long.  Was scheduled to start rads the next day.  I showed the tech some redness in the surgery site area (we thought it was from the sports bra and beanie boobie) and she said to show it to the dr. before treatment.  Then went out for Chinese food.  Woke with a huge angry reddness, itchie, painful and spreading fast over the chest/neck area.  Saw the onc and his nurse and neither one knew what it could possibly be.  He said he was not going to start my TX until this has cleared up.  Told me to use 1% cortisone cream, take a Benadryl and put me on tapering Prednisone for 9 days.  It was moving down my back as well but after one dose of Pred it has localized to the area where it started.  Now I wonder what kind of skin reactions I have to look forward too.  They said not to worry they will deal with them.  zIt seems like it's one thing after another, more road bumps to deal with everyday.

    After my second AC I had bright reddness in both armpits, lasted many months.  Except for this experience the worst I've had is horrible itchie skin but I'll tell you what, I'm avoiding MSG!!!!!!

  • bubbalu
    bubbalu Member Posts: 177
    edited August 2010
    Julieeee:  Here's something else I wonder if any of you are experiencing:  When I had my simulation a girl tech and a guy showed me the ropes, look at your photo to identify yourself, etc., two times then they laid me on the rad table.  She said, 'you will hear us say strange things to each other like - I'm a feather - you're a feather or do you have a feather?'  She said when you hear this just laugh, don't pay any attention to it.  What the heck is that for?  Code??? I don't like that it makes me feel like they are hiding something from me about me.  Maybe Julieeee has a clue as to what's it all about?

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