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  • shells43
    shells43 Member Posts: 1,022
    edited August 2010

    Thanks Karen for keeping up with us, it feels so good to get that smiley!

  • marcy4
    marcy4 Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2010

    SHygal

    Great news about the biopsies and good luck with your rads.  Hopefully all will go well.

  • kad22
    kad22 Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2010

    Shygal - OMGoodness what great news - yeah!!!! So happy for you!

    Karen - well it the doc thinks it may help in the long run it won't hurt to throw at it whatever we can, right?! Glad you are keeping up with us because in Sept. I am going to want that smiley face! ;-)

    Well I have to break down and complain - sorry in advance! I HATE HATE HATE Cancer and chemo!! I am sooooo done with it all! I just want to eat a normal meal and not get sick from it! So tired of always having to go to the bathroom. Then there's the no hair thing - it is just gettting on my nerves - just want it all back! Hotflashes suck and not being able to sleep at night sucks too!

    OK so now that I got that out I feel a little better just can't always say these things to friends and family because they say to be thankful that you are alive!! Well DUH!! Of course I am thankful for that but can't I complain a little?!

    Have a good weekend!! Sorry - Kelli

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited August 2010

    Kelli, let it all out, this is a safe environment for complaints.  If anyone can relate to your feelings, it is your friends here.  It always amazes me how upbeat we all tend to be when we are posting.  I know, why don't we all just let out a collective "This sucks!!!"  Imagine if we all did it at the same time, you bet someone would hear us.

    Shygal, hooray for your negative biopsy results, you must be so relieved.  I hope that you can sleep now.

    Have a good weekend all.

  • susiesue
    susiesue Member Posts: 68
    edited August 2010

    congratulations to everyone who has finished their chemo.....

    I haven't posted in a while but I always read the posts.....last few weeks have been so-so, I managed to acquire a wierd arm rash, then I ran a fever for a few days, neuropathy is worse, have a cough......you know, just the usual assortment of chemo SE's. The good news is yesterday was Taxol #10 so I'll be done in two weeks.  I also found out yesterday that I have been receiving Avastin versus a placebo, only tough thing is I am in arm C which involves 10 more treatments three weeks apart.  So, I'll have to make a choice of continuing on or stopping. Next week I am having my radiation planning session and will receive my tattoos. My first radiation will be September 20.

    sending good thoughts to all, take care

  • arubajan05
    arubajan05 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    Hi all!

    Kad22 HANG in THERE! you can do this! Vent on here as much as you want... that's what we are here for.  I agree ... it all just sucks.

    Look at all of us making it through this. I am proud of us!  I have blog in which I call myself a PinkWarrior but I KNOW I am not alone. On a positive note, I am 6 weeks PFC and I have "five o'clock" shadow on my head YAY! My hubby is jealous because he is bald and says he will never see hair growing in again.  I ALMOST feel sorry for him. LOL On a negative note, I noticed the hot flashes many of you are talking about with chemo but now I am on Tamoxifen and they are WORSE than ever!  I have been waking up like 3 times night burning up and then I toss of the covers and then I wake up a half hour later freezing!  Argh..... I hope my body starts adjusting to this and they become less frequent. The ones during the day I can handle.  Well enough of my complaining. I hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend!  ((BIG HUGS)) to all!

  • SGJ05
    SGJ05 Member Posts: 73
    edited August 2010

    Shygal--That is great news-YAY!!!

     Susiesue--You are almost done:) Sorry to hear about the neuropathy, I had that during chemo, but it has gone away--hopefully yours will be the same (hugs).

    Kad22- Feel free to vent away, it is great to be able to release the frustrations. Hang in there, you will be done before you know it (hugs).

    Well, I started rads on Monday as well as Tamoxifen--double the fun! The only real pain of rads so far, has been having to go in everyday at 7:30 a.m.--I am so not a morning person, lol. So no worries for those of you starting rads after chemo,it has been pretty easy compared to chemo. I also started tamoxifen and the only real pain has been the hot flashes. While I had them during chemo they seem to have intensified with the tamox. I am going to try the low dose effexor again, since I would like to have a night of uniterrupted sleep. I wonder why they strike at night? Anyone know?

    I hope everyone is having a great weekend:) Sorry I have been away and not posted in a while, but between radiaiton and getting kids geared up for school, I am insanely busy!

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited August 2010

    Kadd22 - Vent any time, we all need it and I am sure we ALL feel the same way.  I know I do. 

    It is so great to be able to have some place to vent these things.  all i get from family and friends most of the time is "it will be ok, you will get through this" No shit shirlock but it is not easy.  Or I get "how are you feeling today?"  every day this question is asked about 1000000 times. Finally I just say "as good as anyone can with poison running through their bodies"  Oh well, that is my venting today.  Hope you are all having a good weekend and thank you all for being here to listen. 

    Jen

  • kad22
    kad22 Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2010

    Thanks everyone! I agree Jen thank you for this site and everyone that is here to listen!!

    Well I go for my #7 Taxol today so that means only 5 left after today - yeah - finally can down on one hand!!

    My hair is coming back some but my eyebrows are having a hard time coming back -  sure hope they do! My nails are also getting bad now - really thin and breaking off.

    Have a great week everyone - can't believe school will be starting soon! At least it has cooled off here in WI back to where I can have my windows open - ahhhh .... nice fresh air!!  SMILE!

  • shells43
    shells43 Member Posts: 1,022
    edited August 2010

    Well I just came back from having a blood draw Undecided at 0730 for my PCP. It occurred to me that he probably doesn't have a clue what has been going on with me since he saw me last 6 months ago. I went to my ARNP for my lump and things progessed from there. Wonder if he'll be mad? Wonder if my lab work (lipid panel) will reveal anything? Wonder if he'll look at the numbers and have a heart attack? I know my sugar is high from all of the steroids. Maybe I should give him a call to warn him. It will be interesting to see the effects of chemo on my cholesterol levels! Who cares at this point?

    P.S. They didn't use my port. I forgot what a pain it is to have blood drawn the normal way.

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited August 2010

    shelleyj43 - You made me laugh when you said you forgot about your port.  That is so something that I would do!  I say don't tell the doctor and see what they say when they call you.. got to have a little fun some how! 

  • susiesue
    susiesue Member Posts: 68
    edited August 2010

    this is totally off topic, but I wanted to share some good news......my daughter just called and she is engaged!!!!! I am so excited.

  • shells43
    shells43 Member Posts: 1,022
    edited August 2010

    Wow, congrats! It's always great to hear good news!

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited August 2010

    susiesue - that is great.  Congratulations.

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited August 2010

    I have a question for you all.  Does anyone find it strange that since I was diagnosed in February and have been seeing the surgion and the onc, etc. that they have not sent me back to the actual breast care center to have any further MRI's, mamo's, etc.  Just seems a little strange that they say they need to keep a "good eye" out for the next few years due to the TN, etc. but nothing else has been done.  Just wondering if this is normal and if that will all start up once chemo is done.  Thanks for any input.

    Jen

  • marcy4
    marcy4 Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2010

    I am in the same position. I am seeing my oncologist in September when my chemo is finished and going to ask about some testing before I start radaition.

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited August 2010

    Marcy4 - it is kinda strange but I guess that is how it works.  I will be finished in October so you are a little ahead of me. Hope all goes well.

  • kad22
    kad22 Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2010

    Susiesue - Congratulations for you and your daughter!! Have fun planning the the wedding!

    JenC - I have yet to have any testing either but I had a bi-lateral Masectomy. Not sure what they do after chemo had ended. Will talk with Onc. about that. I am in the same boat with TN.

    Kelli

  • saralmom
    saralmom Member Posts: 329
    edited August 2010

    Susiesue - congratulations - it's so great to have something to celebrate!

    JenC, Marcy4, Kad22 - I actually just met with my radiation onc today to plan out my upcoming radiation - since my last chemo is Monday!  Anyhow, it looks like I won't have any testing before rads.  On my simulation day I will have a CT of just the breast area to confirm the field and place the tattoos.  And they said the typical course is to order the next round of mammogram or MRI at 6 months post treatment.  I thought I'd have one or the other before rads.  (I'm not TN though so it could be different...)

    Speaking of tests, etc...  I am freaking out a little about not having any scans done at all.  I asked my onc again this week and she assures me that I am so low risk for recurrence that bone/CT/PET scans are not in order unless I feel symptoms.  I just worry that there is something I don't know about lurking in my liver/bones/lungs/brain and isn't it better to deal with it earlier than later?  I want to be one of those people to just trust my doctor and feel like ignorance is bliss, but....  

    I'm sure this is normal at the end of chemo - and I'm still getting herceptin for the year - and my onc actually suggested seeing a psychologist or taking anti-anxiety meds if needed.  Anyone else going through anything similar?  Or are you all getting routine scans?

    Sara  

  • DancerMel28
    DancerMel28 Member Posts: 122
    edited August 2010

    Hello everyone,

    I must admit the same questions are going through my mind too - I haven't had any scans since the ones I had to get diagnosed (chest x-ray, mammogram and ultrasound).  I had wondered if I should be having further scans done as a lot of people talk about getting all these other scans done - am glad I'm not the only one wondering! 

    I saw my Onc last week and she wants me to start tamoxifen right away but my rads onc doesn't want me to start until after radiation (different treatment centre), so have to talk to my rads onc next week when I have an appointment with him. I started Rads yesterday but don't have an appointment with him until then so we'll see what he says.  I asked my Onc what happens now that I'm getting to the 'end' of treatment and she basically said for the next year I would have 3 month check ups (didn't say exactly what the chekc ups were), and that it would either be with her or my surgeon. I see her again at end of November to check how tamoxifen is going, then she said we'd work out next plan of check ups then.

    Hope everyone's going ok, have to go and get ready to drive to rads #2 (only 28 to go after that!).

    Mel xx

  • marcy4
    marcy4 Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2010

    It seems funny that we all have the same questions.  My concern is I don't know what kind of things are symptoms to be concerned about?  Like I said I will ask my oncologist when I see him in September.  I am glad to see treatment coming to an end, but not sure what come after the end......  I would like to believe the cancer is all taken care of, but would like some reassurance that I am right.

  • Char2010
    Char2010 Member Posts: 532
    edited August 2010

    Sara - I too am very concerned about lack of scans and talked to a couple of different doctors about this.  They all told me that the likelyhood of finding something on the scans with early stage is so low that it does not warrant the chance of false positives and all that comes along with the scans.

  • shells43
    shells43 Member Posts: 1,022
    edited August 2010

    Hi all,

    Regarding the discussion of scans, I asked my onc the same questions at my last chemo, in the form of "how will you follow up to make sure the cancer is gone" and he said he doesn't do them routinely because there is no scan that can catch a recurrence BEFORE I would be symptomatic. I know that doesn't sound too great either, waiting to become symptomatic, but that was the answer. I also found a good discussion about scans in a book I've been reading which basically said the same thing. I will quote:

    "It's a strange feeling to finish treatment and assume you are cancer free but have no proof. Randomized studies have shown that routine scanning and blood work in patients who are asymptomatic does not improve long-term outcomes or quality of life. Most people who develop recurrent disease in those studies actually presented with symptoms between scans and blood work in the groups that were getting scanned. So even with intensive scanning you are more likely than not to miss the cancer before it has become symptomatic. And, on average, disease was picked up only a month earlier in the patients whose cancer returned in the screened group versus the unscreened group. ...Dr. Partridge advises against scanning for asymptomatic people because it has the potential to generate not only anxiety, but a false sense of security (my scans were fine last month so this worsening back pain couldn't be disease-I'm not going to call the doc)..."

    I thought that last part was important. The book is very good, written by two professional women bc survivors, it's called "You Can Do This, Surviving BC without losing your style or sanity" by Elisha Daniels and Kelley Tuthill. Dr. Ann Partridge is their medical specialist co-author. It's an easy read, and gives a lot of helpful tips, and is current, published in 2009. Got it used on Amazon.

  • saralmom
    saralmom Member Posts: 329
    edited August 2010

    Shelley - thanks for posting that piece - it actually makes sense to me when I hear it put that way.  I will look into that book - seems like a good one.

    Also - regarding delaying Tamoxifen and rads - my med onc said that some radiation oncs like to wait until rads are done for the Tamox b/c Tamox works best on cells that are splitting.  And Tamoxifen stops cell splitting... My rad onc said the data has shifted back and forth for years, but he prefers to wait - and said that 6 weeks delay for Tamox is not detrimental.

    Sara 

  • shells43
    shells43 Member Posts: 1,022
    edited August 2010

    Hi Sara,

    My onc said close the same thing about the tamoxifen. He actually is going to monitor my estrogen levels (starting after radiation) to see if I even need to take it. If they are low enough he will delay it altogether. I'm not sure how I feel about that, but at 43 there is a good chance my ovaries might start working again. He also offered the option of irradiating the ovaries which would have the same effect as taking tamoxifen. I need to look into this more. Seems a lot easier than taking a pill for the next 5 years!

    Shelley

  • arubajan05
    arubajan05 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    I am glad you all are having the same worries/fears as me. That means I am not alone. I actually was focused on getting myself through the treatments and hadn't thought a lot about testing/scans etc. but now it seems everyone is asking me.  They want to know how I am going to know the cancer is all gone and I really dont' know what to say.  As far as what my oncs have recommended it is very similar to DancerMel. (Which is encouraging to me because we have a very similar diagnosis {and just 6 days apart too... but on the other side of the world Smile} ) I see my med onc again in Oct. about 2 weeks after finishing rads and I also was referred to a gynecologist who specializes in oncology who I will see soon after that. But I will ask my rad onc when I see her tomorrow about other testing MRI's etc. 

    I am so weepy tonight. My hair regrowth is nothing more than a 5 o'clock shadow right now and it looks dark! I had such thick blonde hair before.  I am sick of being sick and I do feel alone. I have had a "BFF" for about 8 years and I thought nothing would ever threaten our relationship but she is so out of touch with what I am going through I am about to lose it. She lives across the country and so isn't here in California but I have been blogging because we don't have any family here and that way I dont' have to explain everything a million times. My "BFF" isn't reading my blog. So she is so out of touch with what is going on with me. She asked me this past week, "when would I be finishing rads? in November?"  Arghh....I should finish end of September. Sometimes I just want to cry. But I know she can't relate and has no idea what I am truly living through.... thank you for understanding all you gorgeous pinkwarriors!

  • saralmom
    saralmom Member Posts: 329
    edited August 2010

    arubajan - i was really weepy last night too!  My husband kept asking me what is wrong - and the truth is that I'm just sick of this.  Sick of looking like this really.  Sounds so vain, but I am so pissed that on top of being bald (not even a shadow here except for a bunch of WHITE fuzz) I am gaining weight, my nails seriously look like they belong on a monster (one is even seeping this smelly oozy gross fluid), my eyebrows and lashes are a joke... and on and on.  I am so tired of having to think through all the steps I have to take just to go out and buy something to cook for dinner - who will I run in to, what to wear on my head, etc.  UGH.  So of course my husband keeps telling me I look great, and I'm almost done, and my hair will be in before I know it... nice of him, but hollow somehow.

    I think it's really hard for the friends who aren't nearby to relate.  I have a couple of friends who never read my blog, and really don't even call very often.  Then they call after a month or so, and want a run down of how things are going, and I just don't feel like going through it all so I say I'm doing great.  Which I am for the most part, but whatever...

    Pity party here at my house... sorry...

    Sara 

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited August 2010

    A pity party sounds good right now, can I bring the whine?

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited August 2010

    araubajan05 - Sorry about your BFF but I dont think anyone can really "relate" to what we are going through.  My BFF is one town over and sometimes when I talk to her about it it seems like she is just not "intersted" but I think it is because she just does not get it and has no clue as to what to say.  I have the same head shadow and mine is dark to, like you I was blonde prior to and a toe head when I was young.  The good thing is my hairdresser assures me that no matter how it comes back it can be fixed:)  You can at least look forward to some pampering to get the hair you want (just trying to put a little smile on:)) 

    Chin up girls.  I know its hard and I like most of you are having more bad days than good waiting for this f'in teatment to be over (8 more Taxol to go).  I JUST WANT MY LIFE BACK:) 

     ((((HUGS)))))) to all of you.  

    Dutchgirl6 - Ill bring the cheese:)

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited August 2010

    Sara, it sounds like you have lots of good reasons to feel the way you do.  I don't think that it is vain to be fed up with the way things are going for you right now.  It must suck big time to have monster nails, and to look in the mirror and see a stranger looking back.  We can all relate to that one, I think.  It is also tough when people who you thought were friends seem to distancing themselves from you and your current situation.  I think that it's ok to have times for being weepy or angry or sad.  If we didn't have these emotional responses to the crap that we are going through, that would be worrisome.

    Arubajan, I'm sorry that you feel alone through this.  These boards are great, but sometimes you just need to sit down with a good friend and let it all out.  At least you know that you can vent here, and you have an empathetic group.

    Be strong ladies, there is a light at the end of this rotten tunnel.

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