Just diagnosed - questions for surgeon

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oaklandish1
oaklandish1 Member Posts: 11

I was diagnosed a few days ago with IDC and am meeting with the surgeon at Kaiser Oakland Ca this Tuesday the 10th of Aug. I am doing my homework with the little that I know at this point, but my coordinator advised me not to get too crazy on the internet and be overwhelmed. I just found this forum and am asking my new community for tips on what to ask the surgeon? All that I know is that it was found during a routine mammogram, is about 1cm, and is invasive infiltrating ductal carcenoma grade 2. The shock is wearing off and now I am focusing on treatment. I actually feel lucky about the timing of the mammogram and the fact that it seems that it just has gotten started. As I go into this meeting, my first concerns are about if I have to decide  on whether or not to have a mastectomy? I am hoping for a lumpectomy with radiation with medication, but have not done lots of research yet. It sounds like you have to gamble, odds being better if breast is removed. Another question is the radiation. I read on one post that they can do it during surgury as opposed to external visits. This sounds good to me, but i'm not the doctor. Any info on drugs taken as well would be good. Lastly, it's more a personal thing, but I haven't told my mother yet because she has been in hospital/aftercare for 38 days and looks like she will be released soon, but I don't want to put additional stress on her at this time. It hurts me not to tell her, but I want to protect her because of the physical state she is in at the moment. She also lost her husband and my uncle last year,now her,now me in a years time. I do have a very supportive husband who is there for me and reccommends waiting til after Turesday. What are your thoughts? Would waiting til after surgury hurt her even more??

  

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  • JannyM
    JannyM Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2010

    Hi :)  I'm so sorry for your recent diagnosis.  I'm a newbie myself (diagnosed 7/08/10) ... it's all quite scary, I know; but research will give you the amunition you need!!!  I would definitely ask your Surgeon if he plans on doing a "Sentinel Node Biopsy."  Mine did ... it tested positive, so he also performed an "Axillary Dissection."  Three of the 6 nodes tested positive.  Not the greatest news, but I'd much rather know now than later :)

    As far as your Mom, trust your heart my dear :)  My Mom is actually 91 yrs old and doing well.  It was several weeks before we decided to tell her tho, cuz it's hard for her to understand something so complicated.  I truly feel your Mom has the right to know, but it's definitely your decision on when the right time is :)

    God's Speed!!!

  • rockwell_girl
    rockwell_girl Member Posts: 1,710
    edited August 2010

    I had 7 clusters throughout my breast so lumpectomy wasn't a choice for me.  If you just have this one spot a lumpectomy might work for you.  Ask your doctor about getting a MRI to make sure they don't see anything else.  Also ask if you had clear margins.  Plus ask them to do a onco type test to see if chemo is necessary.  If there is no way your mom would hear if from somebody else I would say fine to wait.  But if you think she could hear from a friend it would be best she heard this from you.

  • tryn2staycalm
    tryn2staycalm Member Posts: 763
    edited August 2010

    oaklandish1 - sorry about your dx but welcome- I'm just a bit ahead of you.  I had a Lumpectomy 3 weeks ago.  I still need node surgery - should find out when on Tuesday - when I visit my surgeon again.  I just seen my Radiation Oncologist on Friday and she told me I would need 5 weeks of radiation AFTER chemo.  Chemo is recommended if your invasive tumor is more than 2 cm. almost always.  I have heard of Mamosite (not sure of spelling) Radiation but was not given that option and I have heard some talk of pain a year or so down the road at the site of the affected area.  I don't think I would want to try it for me but that has to be a choice you and your doctor make.  As for your mom I agree she should know as soon as she is well enough.  I did my best to downplay the news at least at the beginning with my regards to telling my kids so not to scare them too bad.  If you let your mom know that it is early stage (1cm) and very treatable it should help.  Also Radiation is only required if you choose to keep the breast.  There is nothing to radiate if you choose mx.  They now say that Lumpectomy plus Radiation is just as effective as mx.  You have to be happy with your own decision, I wanted to save my breast if possible.  Good Luck to you.

    Cathy

  • imatthew
    imatthew Member Posts: 206
    edited August 2010

    Hi Oaklandish1, I just came to the forum tonight to post the same question, and saw your thread.  My wife and I have our first meeting with our surgeon on Tuesday.  Her diagnosis is very similar to yours.

    Our questions are as follows (am I missing any?)
    1. Mastectomy vs. Lumpectomy?  Can she have the latter?  If so, what are the additional risks.  If she has the former, how does she approach reconstructive surgery?

    2. Should we get a 2nd opinion on the pathology report?  Would it change anything?  We're the biopsy, mammogram, and MRI all in agreement?

    3. Should she get a biopsy of her lymph nodes before surgery?  (I see that we should also ask about a sentinel node biopsy)

    4. will she need chemo/herceptin or just herceptin afterwards (I assume this will be a follow-on question for the oncologist later on).

    Also, her mom is 89, her dad is 90.  They are both in OK health for their age, but are having some issues and she doesn't want to tell them anything, even when she has surgery.  We're really afraid the stress of knowing could have a serious impact on them.   They lost a niece to breast cancer about 7 years ago and we don't want them to worry about my wife.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited August 2010

    imatthew:  I hope you get some solid answers to your questions today.  The chemo question may have to wait until node status is established.  And I may be wrong, but I don't think the oncotype test referred to above applies to hormone receptor negative women like your wife. 

    Also, radiation is indeed sometimes given to women with mastectomies - for example, if the tumour is against the chest wall, or 4 or more nodes are involved.  It is virtually always done in the case of a lumpectomy.  

  • oaklandish1
    oaklandish1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2010

    Met with surgeon and oncologist and feel much better! Found out the tumer ranges from 0.1cm to 1.6 and described as multiple yellow  pink cylindrical fragments of fibrofatty tissues.The estrogen receptor is 100% strong, progesterone receptor 90% moderate to strong, and Her2neu is negative 10% 1+/weak.    My Treatment will be what I had hoped for which is lumpectomy with radiation. I have to wait til after surgury and lymph nodes are checked, but the doctor felt good that chances were low of spreading at this point. I even have to have the radiologist place a wire to the area so the surgeon can find it better. I feel lucky that it was found so early and is treatable.  Was making myself nausious over the weekend not having details. My appetite is back, yes!

  • imatthew
    imatthew Member Posts: 206
    edited August 2010

    We met with ours tonight as well, course of treatment is a unilateral mastectomy & sentinel node biopsy coupled with reconstruction.  

    Next up is a cat scan and bone scan just to rule out metastasis (the surgeon doesn't think this is a concern, but she wants to have my wife have the test just in case).  The MRI didn't show anything in her nodes.  We are also scheduling an appointment with the plastic surgeon.  I assume he'll want to do a TRAM flap, we're spending the night reading up on reconstruction options.

    We asked about the MammaPrint test, the surgeon thought it would be fine but not entirely necessary.  So far it doesn't look like she'll need radiation.

  • oaklandish1
    oaklandish1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2010

    Hi, Why was the unitlateral mastectomy decided upon and how do you know the stage it is before surgury?

  • imatthew
    imatthew Member Posts: 206
    edited August 2010

    the reason for unilateral is that she has widespread DCIS (3 regions) in addition to IDC.  As far as staging, i need to update the diagnosis.  Our radiology group told us they thought it was stage 1, .2 CM, but the surgeon told us the .2 CM measurement was the size of the biopsy sample, not the size of the tumor.  We'll know the actual stage after surgery.

  • oaklandish1
    oaklandish1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2010

    thanks imatthew, wish you wife the best for me.

  • lizinmontreal
    lizinmontreal Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2010

    oaklandish1, you're the one who knows your mom the best. If she isn't feeling well or is too frail etc, I wouldn't tell her until I knew she could handle it. For a mom, it's the worst thing in the world to hear that her daughter has this terrible disease.

    In my case, I didn't tell my mom. She is 89 yrs. old, has dementia and has had breast cancer twice herself. I've gone through all the tests since dx and surgery and she hasn't suspected a thing. She moved into a residence (the day I was diagnosed) and when I couldn't see her for a while, my husband told her that I had the flu and I didn't want to infect anyone. I'm preparing her for the times when I cannot visit since my radiation treatments should be starting soon. I've just told her that I will have to go into the city every day for a course that I'm taking and won't be able to see her as often.

    It's been hard not telling her because she would understand what I've been through. My mom is very sensitive and loves me a lot so I want to spare her as much pain as possible. 

  • oaklandish1
    oaklandish1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2010

    Thank you everyone. My treatment plan is a lumpectomy with a sentinal node biopsy followed by radiation. What I had read was right on line with what my surgeon and oncologist are reccommending so now just waiting for my surgury date which my surgeon said will be in Sept. I am also going to sign up for a breast cancer study with my hospital which is Kaiser. Arrgh, just want that phone to ring with the date!

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