August 2010 Mastectomy
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Smurfiep and Nbb... thinking about you... all will be good for you both...
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Smurfie and nbb...good wishes....hugs.
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all your good wishes - Smurfie - hope to hear from you soon. Got back from the hospital today at 2:00pm loaded down with FOUR Drains! Heads up to you big busted people (I was a 34DD) it apppears that there is more now - empty space to drain! That was my first surprise. I did have the sentinel node sent down to frozen section (negative thank god) but my BS found two enlarged lymph nodes which she removed. SO , now I am hurting All over.(second and third surprises) Pain meds are Delaudid and Tylenol which are working pretty well. Slept almost all afternoon. Actually, can't type very well either so will sign off and let you know how I am tomorrow. Have a good evening everyone!
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Sounds like you're doing ok Nbb. I was told I too was going to have 4 drains for bilateral. I'm tiny too. Nice to hear that you can sleep and the pain meds work.
… I'm impressed you can type!
Smurfie, hope you're doing ok but not in a keystroking mood. Totally understandable!
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Hello All,
I am having my MX on the 17th of August. Scared and the closer it gets the more terrified I am. I am most worried about the SNB and the number of positive nodes. Geez..don't know if I can get thru this.
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I didn't see this thread until just now.
I left my left breast at the hospital yesterday, and came home today with all my lymph nodes. Nobody told me I would pee green until the radioactive stuff left my body. That was a surprise.
I have peeked a little and seems to me the incision looks like a muppet mouth, at least from the top. I'm a little afraid to take off this tight cotton bra they put on me in my sleep. I'm not quite ready to look at it yet.
I have, and am taking, hydrocodone, but mostly because I like hydrocodone....it just isn't that painful. I'm not having reconstruction . . . at least for now . . . at 59 I just don't see the point (hah!) in having one firm-and-perky and one natural-under-my-arm-boob, especially with the pain and time investment.
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Welcome Paula. I am in the waiting stage too, due for BMx on 31st. From what I've seen on the June and july threads,all the girls have felt that the pre Op anticipation is worse than the reality.....they all say it is SO do-able.......Trying to keep that in mind myself
Tell us how you feel and we will support you all the way.
Hi Marly, welcome to the august ladies
sounds like you are doing great!
Hi Nancy, glad to hear you are getting on OK. Poor you with 4 drains..... maybe they come out quicker having 4? Thanks for letting us know how you are - get plenty of rest and take care
Hugs
Robin
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Slept ok last night taking pain meds every 3 hours. Two of my drains are not putting out much so hope to have those taken out next Tues when I see the PS. I am storing them in a fanny pack and am finding that is working out quite well. The most pain I have is at one of the drain sites (especially when stripped) - today it was a level 9 for at least 15 minutes or so before it subsided. Not having much problem so far with the TE- just feels like someone is sitting on my chest. But, I am VERY tired. When my sister had this last year she was walking around doing all kinds of things - not me - I just want to nap! I keep thinking I should move around more so more of the fluid gets out of my body. Of course, I am 5 years older so that might make a difference. A few tips - try to build up your quad muscles and stomach muscles before surgery - You will be using your lower body to lift yourself out of bed, off the couch etc.
Robin - Thanks for taking over my welcoming duties while I was gone! (and a second welcome from me to Marly and Paula.
Signing off - have a lot of people to call and email. Smurfie - hope you are doing ok.
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Hey girls,I'm back. Got discharged around 2:00 yesterday and made the 2.5 hour drive home (I could feel every bump coming home!!!) with my hubby. I have two drains and have to agree with Nancy that the entrypoints to the drain are the most painful. Stanford Medical Center was the greatest hospital - clean, quiet and comfortable - I swear I am not exaggerating. I was more comfortable there than last nite at home. I am taking percocet every 4-6 hours but it is giving me major "balloon head". My surgeon also gave me valium for muscle spasms. My urine is no longer green. My SNB was clear so that's good. The inscisions are not that bad - I had a long look in the mirror last nite. Because I have Paget's disease, they removed both nipples. But the PS also gave me little "nipples" actually, mound of tissue so it is nice to look downa nd see something. My chest is tight but I suppose that is the tissue expanders. I also feel like I should be moving around. It's weird that your lower body seems so strong and "normal" but everything above the waist is rather sore.
Enough typing. Thanks for your thought and prayers. I will keep you updated.
Smurfie
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Sooooo glad to hear from Nancy and Smurfie and you're typing and doing well! Can't thank you enough for the details --- like when you pee green and when you don't! Nancy, you'll have energy to burn before you know it.
Welcome Marly and Paula. Marly, everytime I see another DCIS diagnosis with MX, I am relieved again I am making the right decision.
Anne - gettin' ready? Last weekend before the big sleep!!! My husband and I are going out to a fancy dinner tonight, and I'm wearing my most low-cut shirt and bosom-boosting bra I've got! Yesterday, I had a friend who does wedding photography take some classy shots of my soon-to-be-gone breasts while I wore a satin robe. Can't wait to see the pics ... but am running around with my head cut off doing last minute errands that I don't want to have to ask someone else to do ... oy.
Peace and tranquility to everyone here.
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taranebraska, I'm glad to be of support in your decision. I could have done other things, but sometimes simple and *gone* is just more sensible, at least in my world.
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Robin, Nancy, taranebraska, & Smurfie,
Thanks so much for the welcome and the good information. Today is better and I have managed to keep my emotions together. I am glad to hear that the actual MX is probably not as traumatic as I imagine right now. I can't seem to face anyone, especially my extended family. Each time they ask if I'm ok, I just feel my face start to leak and after the conversations I am bereft and depressed. I wish I had better self control. I feel like a two year old refusing to eat peas..I want to refuse to do the surgery and the rest of it, but my adult side is making me go thru with it all. I feel like a crazy person at times. :.. (
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Glad our surgery girls are doing ok. Really appreciate the updates. I can hardly express myself anymore, this journey is a trip.
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Smurfie I also was diagnosed with Paget's not sure why I can't get it to show in my diagnosis.
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Paula xanax has really helped me to cope, though I do still do a lot of what you describe. We will get through this.
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Smurfie - Welcome back! So glad to hear from you and that you are doing ok. I too was surprised that the drive home was so painful. And, I didn't pee green at all. My BS used the radioactive tracer but no dye so I guess there are different ways to target the nodes depending on the BS preference. Thanks for the tip on Valium. I'm having headaches from scrunching up my shoulders so I think I will ask for it on Tuesday when I go to see the PS. I'm used to holding up big boobs so my upper body forgets that I don't have to do that anymore.
Paula - I know what you mean about the anger. I had a lot of it and a few times took it out on the BS and PS and had to apologize. I felt like a little kid throwing a tantrum because I couldn't get what I wanted. A lot of emotions.
I did a little better yesterday. Sat out on the deck and read and even had a glass of wine with dinner. The drains are really killing me though. Not sure how I am going to last two weeks with these things.
Anne and Tara -it is getting close! You will feel so much better (mentally) when you are on the "other side"
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I remember one of my conversations last month with the BS god when he was questioning me, once again, about why I didn't have MX last year. I put my arms over my head, elbows pointed to the ceiling, then thrust them down to the floor, just like a bratty 2-year-old who couldn't have the toy he wanted in a store. I raised my voice, telling him it was his brother doctor's fault, he, too, had been far too concerned about preserving my generous breasts. I think I pointed at one time cuz he was trying to cut me off my tyrade. I felt much better after that, and nurse Deb became a very good ally.
Nancy - Looking forward to reading on the deck with a glass of wine, on the other side, too. You will make it through those damn drains - you will. Because if you can't, none of us can and there are 10's of thousands of women here who have - and you will. Cheers.
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Nancy I hear I'm going to have 4 drains too. It sounds more of a PITA and a little gross. Just keep your eye looking forward. They are not going to be there that long. I hear usually 1 sometimes 2 weeks for most people. It really isn't all that long…
Of course lets see how I feel once I get mine
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Hello everyone,
I'm so glad I found these discussion groups and all the wonderful and helpful info. This is all so new to me and I find myself discovering more questions to ask my BS. I was diagnosed with DCIS, stage 0, grade 3, on July 6th after a biopsy. Since then I've had an MRI and then an ultrasound. The ultrasound confirmed what they suspected from the MRI and I found out I had a total of 5 lumps in my left breast and 2 in my right (the first biopsy had been on my left). They suspect them all to be DCIS but the largest one is 7 mm.
Though I have an extensive family history of cancer, my BRCA1/2 came out negative. I've opted to go for a BMX (I love all these new acronyms I'm learning - helps make these discussions more simple as I see).
I guess I wanted to post in this particular discussion as it all seems so close to what I'm currently experiencing. It's the impatience of waiting for a surgery date and wanting to get this whole process moving forward as soon as possible.
I've decided on a great PS, who's worked closely with the BS who was highly recommended too. I'm going for the TE and implants. I wasn't crazy about the idea of any of the flap procedures for two reasons. First I'm leary of being sedated for so many hours but more importantly I need the best recovery (if there is such a thing) so I can get back on my feet to help my handicapped husband. I will have other help at home after the surgery, but it's highly likely my husband will need a second back surgery soon himself.
My BS also said that she'll do a SNB, which I understand the need for due to the number of lumps I have, none of which I ever felt during a Dr or self exam. After reading about others experiences with SNB I now need to ask my BS if she'll do it the day before or the day of and w/wo anesthesia.
I'm so glad to find everyone here and hope to get to know everyone better. For those who have just had their surgeries I hope you're both doing well. And for those awaiting theirs I also wish you well. Now if my BS and PS would just get back to me with a scheduled date I feel like I could finally calm down and settle down into the final planning stage!
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Add me to the list, please! My surgery is scheduled for this coming Thursday, August 12. I'm scheduled for BMX, with a prophylactic MX on my "good" side, plus immediate expander implants--but now I'm thinking I should just do a single and have breast reduction on the other side. (I'm at least a 42E!) I told my BS and PS I'd have a firm decision by Monday morning. I always have trouble making decisions, but this one has me losing sleep and is giving me nightmares! I don't like the idea of having a 100% numb chest, but is 50% sensation worth the additional monitoring I'd have to have over the years? This is driving me nuts!
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Tara and Lago - Thanks for the drain peptalk. Today I had a # 9 level pain for a good 45 min after stripping one of the drains. I could hardly stand it - hope you all don't have this problem.
Tay738 - Welcome and hope you get your August surgery date.
ChattaChick - Welcome - I had the same decision - whether to have a reduction or just do a BMX. I was told with big breasts, it is hard to do a reduction at the same time as a lumptectomy- the result isn't as appealing. For me (DD) I did not want to go through any more surgery (and waste more of mylife on this endevour) than I had too. It is bad enough with the TE and all the time involved. It is a very individual decision and a very hard one to make. I sympathize with you.
That's all for now.
Nancy
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I have taken my first good look at my chest and it caused me to say: oh.
The idea of what it might look like was freaking me out so much that I thought I might as well just look and get it over with. Besides, I wanted to wash my armpits!!! ...and the torture device bra was in the way. Very tight. (I am very fat.)
I'll tell you...it looks...odd, and there's a pucker where my cleavage used to be...that's because there's a layer of fat on the right side that's gone on the left side now. I imagine it'll smooth out in a relatively short period of time, sort of while I'm not paying attention.
Most of the immediate incision area's numb...nerves having been cut...it feels as if it's just "asleep" from the pressure of that dang bra, but I know it's the nerves. But whatever...it doesn't hurt. And I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT A RELIEF IT IS TO HAVE THAT TOURNIQUET OFF MY CHEST! My GOD, that feels good!
I'm having no problem with the drain or anything. Just picking up life where I left off.
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Hi
Just found this community of women going through what I am going through and worse - so am signing up. Mastectomy for me on the 12th August + 1 step alloderm reconstruction. Not too happy about cancer or losing a breast but had a SNB (assuming that is sentinel node biopsy?) last week which was clear which is fantastic news. I live alone so am wondering what kind of help I will need to get from friends once I am sent back home?
Hope all goes well for everyone
Linda
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Hello Everyone,
Having left my tantrum behind for the moment, I am pretty much decided on having immediate reconstruction to the left breast using the Lat Flap procedure. I have done alot of research and the Lat brings its own blood supply so supposedly, the new boobie will live long and prosper. I am not opting to remove the right breast. My surgeon says that tamox will have a curative effect on the other boobie. Sure hope I am making the right decision.
I have no idea what type of implant to use. Anyone have any ideas at all? I would like it to be a bit squishy like my right side, but no Anna Nicole cleavage. My PS says he can lift the the right boob to make them both "perky"? geez ....what a girl needs...perky foob and boob. Aren't I a brat?
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Linda NZ, this is what I recommend you ask for from friends, and DO ask. They'll be wanting to help somehow, and they'll be truly happy to do whatever, once they know what's needed. I didn't have reconstruction of any kind, but this is what I've learned from having had a simple mastectomy.
If you need to go anywhere...to get food, to get to dr. appts., anywhere, you'll need somebody to do that for you because you won't be allowed to drive right away, and you won't feel like being upright for very long for a few days ...the anesthesia made me tired. Anesthesia and healing, of course. At this hour four days ago I had two breasts, and now I have one, and I would not have wanted to have to go get things. So you'll need somebody who can stop at the store for you to get the odd item that you have run out of.
I think it would be nice to have somebody stay with you for a couple of days. Somebody you don't have to entertain. Somebody who knows his or her way around your house and won't be asking you where the toilet paper is stored. Somebody you can say, "I'm going back to bed," to, and know that they'll be there when you wake up. There's that emotional hangover from the anesthesia, and even if you love being alone most of the time, it's good to have a human available for the odd thought that comes by that you want to express. ("Look, Barb...it's concave now!" with a smile and nod of acknowledgement in return.) And it's good to have somebody say, "You're doing lots better than I thought you would be!"
You won't want to be doing laundry, or doing dishes, or cooking. I guess you could deal with all that if you had to, but it's nicer to have somebody else putting a plate of food in front of you, and taking it away and cleaning it when you've finished eating.
Most of the stuff that you need somebody for seems, to me, a little bit like pampering. And we're so self-sufficient, aren't we? ...those of us who like our own company. But let people pamper you. Let them fluff your pillows and straighten your bed, and get your socks out of the drawer for you.
I found that the thing I worried about most...dealing with the drains...is a non-event. I thought I'd have to have my husband do that stripping and emptying, etc. for me, but it's right where I can get to it, so that's just nothing.
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Paula1231, you sound as if you're looking forward now instead of looking backward or being stuck between the two. And that is a Good Thing.
I can't help you on anything to do with implants...I'd imagine the plastic surgeon would be the best advisor on that.
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Nancy - level 9 pain is entirely unacceptable. What do your docs say? Call 911 - get on the evening news. Make sure you mention the SNB crap, too. Gees. And I haven't got through any of it myself yet! My Pisces is getting the better of me ....
I'm cranky today - feeling stressed. Husband inited people over for dinner tonight - really? And I've got to go into the office most of the day.
Chattachick - make your list of pros and cons - check in with everyone else - then close your eyes and let the decision come to you. You will know it is right.
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Hi Marley,
You are awesome, and thank so much for your helpful posts. Interesting observation but right on target. Looking forward is a bit empowering and finding out what one can do to deal with the absolutes is at least doing something and partnering in one's own outcome. As for the unknown..what ever will be, will be. It is not helping me in the least to imagine whats ahead, so I am going to concentrate on the now and on things I have control over. At least till the 2 year old takes over my body.
Nancy, I agree with TaraNebraska, level 9 pain is not acceptable. I am a health care person, and that level of pain does not allow your body or mind to heal. Talk with your doc, and if he/she seems uncaring, move on. Everyone on my boobie removal/boobie reconstruction team has assured me that they will control my pain and said I must be proactive in letting them know if and when I am in pain.
TaraNebrasksa, Kentucky Fried Chicken? Don't stress, hang in there. Ask your husbandto get the carry out and be the go to guy at dinner. It is the least he can do. I am telling my dear husband to not invite anyone to dinner for at least three months based on your post.
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Tara and Paula - Thanks for your concern. One of the girls on the July 2010 thread had the same problem and she said there isn't much one can do. It feels like one is pouring alcohol into an open wound. The problem is that the pain is not constant - lasts for at least an hour, so I hate to take extra pain meds and knock myself out just for that. What are they going to do anyway - take it out and reposition it? Sounds like more pain to me. Plus, it is a weekend and I'm sure I will get someone inexperienced anyway. It is really bringing me down - hope it doesn't happen to any of you.
Anne and Tara - Do either of you get your SNB tomorrow - the day before your surgery? That is when I had mine. Good luck and hang in there - with the Lidocaine it wasn't half as bad as I thought.
Nancy
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I get my SNB at 8 am, then roll into surgery at 9 am. I don't know if I'll get any Lidocaine ... I will discuss with the doctor, and that I want to watch the dye on the monitor. I'll check in as soon as I'm able when I'm on the other side!
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