High levels of androgens

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I am hoping to get some answers on my hormonal levels in the next few weeks, and have booked an appointment with an endo who treats with bio identicals. However, I was just wondering how many of you happen to have excess levels of androgens. I have facial hair (blonde) on my chin, lots of jawline acne, and it all points to an excess of androgens. Suggested therapies I've seen on the internet are Spirolactinone (to inhibit testosterone) and bio ID progesterone. Not knowing how these really work in my body, I am wondering anyone has used Spiro to control acne as a BC patient.

 Determined to balance my hormones somehow!!

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  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited August 2010

    Spironlactone isn't too widely used any more. Have to keep a close eye on your potassium if you're taking it.

    Get your labs checked to make sure there's not an underlying problem, and talk about the bioidenticals first. Makes more sense to me to balance the hormones, but I'm by far not the expert here on that.

    I'm sure others will give you some solid advice.

    Anne

  • mollyann
    mollyann Member Posts: 472
    edited August 2010

    Marianna, I posted this to you a few days ago regarding blood sugar and androgens.

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    MariannHB, my younger sister (no breast cancer) has jawline acne which is part of PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome). Her doctor says this causes hormone imbalance particularly too much testosterone. But the real culprit in PCOS seems to be the hormone, insulin. He has put her on Metformin, a blood sugar lowering drug  --which I think is also being used in one of the breast cancer drug coctails. I would google PCOS +acne + insulin or some such combination.

    Maybe others with PCOS would know more????

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited August 2010

    Mollyann said what I was going to, that it sounds like you may have PCOS and that it's related to problems regulating insulin. Metformin has helped many women with PCOS, but this condition is also EXTREMELY responsive to diet and lifestyle changes.

    Specifically, you should eliminate all simple carbs for a while (including sugar, refined flour, etc.). Try eliminating them altogether for a few weeks, then you can add a small amount back in but only as part of a meal with protein and healthy fat.

    DEFINITELY be sure to exercise several times a week.

    Cinnamon has been shown to have a similar blood sugar regulating effect as Metformin, although you shouldn't take them both together. (Obviously, small amounts of cinnamon in food are okay if you decide to take Metformin, but don't take it as a separate daily supplement if you go on Metformin.)

    Go to bed early every night (by 11:00 at the latest), and sleep in 100% complete darkness (not even a clock radio emitting light). This will help regulate melatonin which in turn helps regulate other hormones.

    I'm not familiar with Spirolactinone, but if that's a chemical drug, I would personally NEVER take it. Drugs are a quick fix (which, granted, sometimes is needed, especially when dealing with a life-endangering situation like cancer!), but drugs always have detrimental side effects, whether apparent or not. Attacking it with a natural approach is a lot more work and takes longer to take effect, but it's SO much better for you and has only *positive* side effects, not negative ones. For instance, by doing the above things to get your blood sugar and androgen levels back in balance, it will also balance your other hormones, give you more energy, and 100 other positive things.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited August 2010

    Thanks, ladies, especially mollyann. 

    I researched PCOS, and I don't seem to have some of the other obvious symptoms, but I'll ask my doc about it when I go in to see him.

    Crunchy Poodle, thanks for the tips. I will try the carbs/sugar cutting for a bit. I ride my bike 26 miles each day, with a 50-60 mile on Saturday and Sunday. I am training for a century bike race right now, and I suppose in a wierd way, was hoping that it would help regulate some of my hormones. At least the estrogen, I hope! Cutting carbs will be hard, hard, hard for me, especially since I am trying to get enough fuel while I train.  But I'll give it a good try this next couple of weeks and report back to you.

    Thanks for the tips.

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited August 2010

    Is the acne on your chin by chance where your bike helmet rubs across it?

    Just a thought.

    Good luck on your century. I've never done one, but did 360 miles in 6 days a few weeks ago. Longest day was 72 miles.

    Anne

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited August 2010

    Since you're in training for a century, you shouldn't cut carbs too much right now... but go with complex carbs (e.g. whole grain pasta) rather than simple carbs (regular pasta)... you will get the fuel you need but with minimal blood sugar spikes.

    BTW, apparently there's a such thing as having "hidden" PCOS (where you don't have the symptoms like being overweight). But, knowing you're a cyclist, Anne might be onto something about the jawline acne possibly being caused by your helmet strap!

  • rreynolds1
    rreynolds1 Member Posts: 450
    edited August 2010

    It is important to combine protein with carbs to get the best benefit when training.  It helps to keep from having blood sugar spikes and lows.  It is possible that all that great exercise has changed your hormone balance. 

    Roseann

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