Chemo June 2010

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  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2010

    Question for the ladies already starting Taxol - are you all getting steriods to take the day before?  If so, what are they?  I did get the onc to give me something for anxiety.  He called in a RX for ativan and cautioned me to only take it as I need it because it is so addictive (great!) but he hasn't given me anything in the steriod family.  I am wondering if he will do it via pre-med in an iv.  Just wondering how everyone else is getting it.

    Designermom - I am so sorry you are having the sores.  I hope somebody gives you something for it!  Keep bugging them until someone gives in! 

    Hang in there my sisters!  We will get through this! 

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    grneyd5600  I start Taxol this afternoon.  Yesterday at 10pm I took 20 milligrams of steroids.  Then at 6 am I took it again.  If I can remember my preinfusion meds I'll post them later.  I know they told me this will be a long infusion as I will need premeds and they start it slow. 

    New tshirt HI HO !  HI HO!  TO CHEMO NOW I GO!

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    grneyd5600  I take Atavin every night before bed.  It helps me sleep.  During the day if I am having a "moment"  I will take half a Xanax.  I don't like how Xanax makes me feel if I take it with any regualrity.  I'd say I take 3 or 4 pills a week.  I had no idea Atavin was addicting.  I guess it will just be another post chemo side effect to deal with down the road.  I just know I can't sleep without it.

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited August 2010

    grneyd- I get the steroids in pre-infusion IV, so I do not take anything at home.

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    grneyd-->I also get my steroids as a pre-med at infusion..  I was told I'd continue to get it that way with the Taxol, along with a big dose of benedryl!  At my cancer center there are 5 private rooms that are on a first-come basis--I'm hoping to get one since the Benedryl will probably put me to sleep and I don't want to snore in front of everyone! Embarassed

    My nurse told me I'd have to take a lot of ativan to get addicted to it, and to not worry about it.  I only take 1 or 2 every cycle.  But its esp. nice to have the day of infusion. 

    I use Ambien occasionally for sleepless nights, but it doesn't work very well for me.  I don't seem to need as much sleep as I used to anyway.

  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited August 2010

    I started my weekly taxol last Wednesday and have my second treatment today.  I don't take any premeds the day before.  They just pump me up with them in my iv.  The only reaction I had for the first was i got very blotchy thank god.  Other than that was fine.  I have felt fine ever since that treatment other than being very tired by Friday night.  My taste buds totally suck and nothing tastes as it should.  I do have a couple mouth sores, which is interesting since I didn't get them with ac.  Good luck to all starting their taxol treatments!!  I pray for no reactions and that we get through this with flying colors!!   Can't wait for Halloween this year hahaha!!!

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2010

    grneyd - no meds the day before - I get an anti-allergy tablet to swallow as soon as i get there (didn't ask what it is called), and then I get steriods by IV before the taxol. Unlike AC, I have no meds to take after at home either.

    tmarina - private rooms, how lovely!

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    Morning Ladies!  Well I had a bit of a rough night, temp wanted to spike again, but I kept it at bay with Advil.  Just like last time, it started to spike 24 hours after the Taxotere.  I got to 100.1, but no higher, but today I'm exhausted as I woke up about every hour last night.  Still, I'm down to 98.3 this am (usually 97 in the morning), so a little high for me, but normal range.  Today i get to call and make an appt for rads measurements!  Light at the end of the tunnel I guess!

    Julia

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    Lots of good info on the Taxol ladies!  So many of us are nervous/curious about starting the next chemo.  Having others to share info with is such a blessing!

    On a completely different note---do any of you sell Avon?  I sold it for years, and may start again when I'm feeling better (I'm suffering from Avon withdrawal! lol!), but in the meantime I need an Avon lady!  I need one with a website I can order from.  If you or someone you know (preferably a bc survivor--I'd love to give them my support) has a website, please pm me!

    Hope everyone has a good day--mine started off kind of rough and had to take a percocet--issues from radiation last year :P.  I'm feeling better now!  But a little loopy :)

    Tina

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    Talking of cosmetics, anyone using DHC products?  OMG they are fab!  I am not much of a make-up person, rarely wore it b4 cancer, but once you're bald you have to do something to improve your looks, right :-)  Anyhow, the DHC skincare products i've tried are just awesome, particularly the Velvet Skin Coat, which makes your skin feel amazing.  I also love the Extra Nighttime Moisture.  It's all mail order off the web, and you can request samples of other products when you order, so that' pretty cool too.

    Julia 

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    Hi all-  I am in the infusion room waiting for my first Taxol.  I will get it every 14 days for a total of 4 infusions.  So far...one hour waiting for my blood work to return.  I have been given decadron and zofran by mouth.  One hour of IV benadryl followed by three or four hours of Taxol.  Told husband to buy me some food and hit the road.  Somone will come back and pick me up.  Will get IV pepcid also.

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2010

    Hi All,

     I just finished my last FEC yesterday so I am now halfway there. Onwards to three treatments of Docetaxol. I will have each treatment three weeks apart. I heard Docetaxol to be less harsh and the main concerns are neuralgia of the hands and feet, allergic reaction and bone pain. For those of you who have started how have you found it? I have done well with FEC and was able to keep exercising at a high level.I want to be able to do this with Docetaxol and would love for you to shareSmile Some of you must be getting Paxitaxol instead. I have Dexamethasone to take two times a day for the day before, the day of and the day after.... it is important for the allergic response not to occur. I will also be getting ice mits to my hands and feet for 15 min prior to and after the infusion. I have heard people find the taxols less harsh with the SE that the FEC or AC

    On another note have you all had surgery or is anyone out there having chemo first and surgery later? if I have a Deip I only have enough for one side and will have radiation then a Deip. If I decide on bioth sides then I will have implants with radiation later. What have you guys had? Anyone with a Deip out there?

    Thanks,

    Trusting

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    I had double mastectomy with immediate implants of silicone.  At that point I didn't know I had positive nodes so thought I might avod radaiation.  No such luck.  But plastic surgeon was not to worried about radiation post implants.  Said he preferred to work on non radiated skin anyway.  That's all I am taking Taxol as we speak and it has been very uneventful.  Sorta bored and tired of sitting. 

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    So something weird happened today.  I went to see my PCP to update her on all the goings-on since I last saw her.  i was chatting away with the nurse, and I guess i was distracted, but I just went ahead and gave her my at-risk arm and let her take my blood pressure.  I didn't even realize what i'd done until after she left the room.  I feel a little freaked, I only had 1 node removed, and I have a hard time imagining one little squeeze is going to give me lymphedema, but then again could it?  Lymphedema was my big fear pre-surgery, that was before chemo became my big fear :-)  I guess this just brings home to me that I am not in Kansas anymore and life is forever changed, and I get to live with this forever and have to be vigilant all the time.  i think I'll take an anti-depressant now.      

    Julia

  • Isla
    Isla Member Posts: 82
    edited August 2010

    julia2

    please don't worry about having had the BP on the 'at risk' arm.  It will not have made any difference. A number of ladies have ended up with having had a bilateral and some lymph nodes from each arm and they still have BP's done and blood tests etc.  You are just advised to avoid it if it can be done - simply as a good habit to get into, rather than something that is statistically proven to cause an increased risk of lymphodema.

    cheers Isla 

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    Thanks Isla, this is such a crazy emotional rollercoaster!  I know when I'm being irrational, but that doesn't mean I can make it stop :-)  Hearing the voice of reason really helps!

    Julia

  • SKD
    SKD Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    Trusting: I just finished 3 rounds of FEC and started Docetaxel on Friday. They gave me steriods on Thursday to take before the infusion and they lasted until Sunday. It was a lot quicker and easier on my veins than FEC and I felt fine after, just a little drowsy from the bendryl but I had a quick nap and was fine. On Saturday and Sunday I also felt fine, just took 2 naps throughout the day. Monday- WEdesday I have still been tired. I have some bone pain from Neulesta but my ONC gave my some codeine as well as heartburn and acid relux medicine. On FEC i had some nausea and little vomitting and exremely tired. This has been easier and hope it stays this way. Can't wait to have energy back though. My nails have also started hurting? HOpefully they won't fall off!!

    Good luck!!!!

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited August 2010

    Tmarina- They didn't talk to me about weekly vs. every other week, but I will ask my onc tomorrow when I go.  Others who asked - I am taking a big dose of steroids the night before - dexa - something.- it's called.  They also gave me Ambien for sleep because the Ativan doesn't really do it for me (I'm a serious insomniac).  Here's to a night without SEs.

  • NorthernGirl
    NorthernGirl Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2010

    SKD and Trusting... I am on the same schedule as you. I will start Docetaxel and Herceptin tomorrow and Friday. Due to concern about allergic reaction, I will get the Herceptin infusion tomorrow, followed by Dox on Friday. I talked to the onc nurse about using gel mitts for my hands and feet. I would rather avoid damage to my finger nails and toe nails.

    I didn't enjoy the FEC too much, hoping the Dox is better. I hate the idea of being on steroids. But what are the options?

    I took a few Ativan pills occasionally in the beginning, but now I spend time thinking positive thoughts and walking alot to get myself in a good place.

    Can't wait for this to be done with.

    Cheers, girls

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2010

    Hi SKD and Northern Girl,

     I am glad that your experience with Docetaxol has been better. I just wanted to hear that positive reinforcement. I found the FEC nauseating, tiring and made me light headed. I feel that way for about 3 days and then I gradually bounce back...I am very much into fitness and made myself keep going. By the third week I feel pretty much normal. I hope Docetaxol feels the same. I have heard it not to be as bad with the SE as FEC and not as hard on the vein. My oncologist told me the biggest side effect is allergic reaction and that Paxitaxol causes more bone pain than Docetaxol. I have steroids and will get ice meits just like you SKD. I think we are all CanadianSmile. Keep me posted. Have either of you had reconstruction yet? I am debating between a one sided Diep or having both sides with implants. I only have cancer on the one side and the other side looks fine.

     Thanks,

    Trusting

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2010

    SKD,

    I too want this over. I hope your nails do not fall out. The FEC is over and you are onto a drug you are doing better with. Just think you are more than half way there! keep going you sound like a positive person.

    Take care,

    Trusting

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2010

    Hi Northern Girl,

    There are no options to the Dexamethasone (steroid). They help with the swelling and prevent the allergic reaction the Docetaxol makes you at risk for. I do not need Herceptin but I heard it not to be bad. Best of luck to you on Thursday and Friday. Let me know about your side effects with the Docetaxol. Stay positive "Cancer is a word not a sentence"

    Take care, 

    Trusting

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2010

    Hi Cheyenna,

    That is a good one LaughingI wish you could click three times too!

    Thanks,

    Trusting

  • SKD
    SKD Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    Trusting: I was just like you on FEC..the nausea, dizzyness etc... hopefully you will have the minimal side effects (or none at all..wishful thinking) on Docetaxel. Just make sure you take all the meds they give you, they help you out! The steroids were great because they actually gave me energy. On Monday, I was off the steriods and could definitly feel my energy level dropping significantly. BU tif you do have side effects, they have tons of meds you can take to help them. I had bad back spasms todays and got a prescrption for a strong codene medicine and my back pain is completely gone as well as my aches (sort of felt like i was getting the flu)!! I also have been having bad heart burn and am taking pantoprazole and it helps as well. I am sooo not a presciption drug person butI figure if it helps and makes this process more bearable, then bring em on!

    I have my reconstuction consultation this month but looking into getting both done so they look the same... any one have advice on this?? I know up in Canada it takes awhile for reconstuction... like I probably won't get it done until March 2011.

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited August 2010

    I finished AC last week and start Taxol next week (Wednesday).  I'm kinda freaking out about it.  I cannot take Benadryl because I had a bad reaction to it as a child.  When I told my onco's partner this week that I had hives down my throat, he agreed - no Benadryl and no Claratin (to help with the Neulasta shot).  I tried to see an alergist this week.  I got there and had to fill out 8 pages of paperwork only to find out that they are homeopathic and don't take insurance.  I said BYE BYE and walked out the door!  Ughh!!!  

    So, I found L Glutamine powder on GNC's website.  We have a GNC here locally.  What does the glutamine powder do again for you??? (can't remember - chemo brain).

    I went in today for a vaginal ultrasound to check that ovarian cyst (I was supposed to get a hysterectomy/oopherectomy in May for it - then got cancer again).  Anyway, I got the tech to tell me that it's still there.  I don't see my obgyn for 2 more weeks, so I'm had the results sent to my onco's office so hopefully they can tell me something next week.  The tech seem concerned about it, so I wonder if it's grown.  After all this fun with chemo and radiation, I have to still get that surgery - BUMMER!!!

  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited August 2010

    Kittycat, the glutamine supposedly helps with neuropathy.  I got the pill form, hopefully it works.  I asked my oncologist if it was okay to take it, he said fine.  I also got tea trea oil to rub on my nails.  People have said it helps so that they don't fall off.  Hopefully!!  I had my second taxol yesterday, uneventful.  It is sooooo much better than the ac.  I have to have my overies out as well.  I am having my gyno and ps coordinate together when I am done with chemo to do the excchange and hysterectomy at the same time.  Kill two birds with one stone. 

  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2010

    Hi all my new favorite friends.  I haven't posted in a while because I had another rough week from Wed through Sunday.  Heart  rate stayed in the 100's during that time (normal is 60-80 I think) which made me very tired and each day I felt weaker and weaker.  However, I am happy to report that I had absolutely NO nausea this weak for the first time!  YAY!  Might have been queasy a time or two but it passed in a little while.  Heart rate is still in 100's but Dr. said we'll just monitor to another week unless it gets worse or I start have pain or difficulty breathing.  It's probably just the cumulative effects of the chemo.

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    Hi  ladies.  Just a Taxol update.  Had my first yesterday.  Was told if there was any swelling or rash to take 50 mg of benedryl and call them.  Energy good no pain.  I was also told to take Zofran if I felt nausea.  Since I don't want to feel nausea I plan on taking it as a prventative.  Other than that in a great mood and a little light headed. 

  • momof2kidz
    momof2kidz Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2010
    Trusting, I had a unilateral mastectomy with immediate diep flap reconstruction done back in May.  I was in surgery for 9 hours and things went well.  I am very pleased with the results.  I am now being told by the Rad Onc that after chemo I will need radiation but my BS and PS both say no because it will ruin the flap.  So if you are leaning towards the diep flap just make sure that if you have to have radiation you do it first. 
  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2010

    Treatment #5 of Taxol and Carboplatin was yesterday.  And my precious onc gave me the most wonderful news!  When he came in he told me he had been reading through my records because I was a mystery to him and he was trying to figure me out.  We talked for a while about everything and then he said that since I had completed one tx of the A/C before we switched to my current regimen, that the dosage of Cytoxin I received that first time was the equivalent of 3 Taxol txs. And therefore, he was cutting down my treatments.  Instead of having 7 Taxol txs left after yesterday, I only have four.  I did the happy dance! ! !  I also asked him if I HAD to have the Benedryl infusion with my Taxol because I am hardly able to walk out after my tx.  My husband has to drag me to the car.  Good thing he is strong and I'm not very big because my feet are barely touching the ground and I'm not moving them.  He just scoops me up as much as he can under his arm and we schlump out to the car!!!  Plus it makes me want to sleep the rest of the day and night and the next morning I feel hungover.  So, he said I didn't have to take the Benedryl - another happy dance. 

    Of course the nurses were not happy to hear that in the tx room.  They were still as sweet and nice as they always are but concerned.  They gave me a little bell and explained what side effects to look for.  I still got the Zofran and Decadron infusion before the other. I'm happy to report I had no reactions to the Taxol and I had the best time for the first time in the tx room that day.  Husband brought chinese food for lunch which I gobbled up!  I also drank a WHOLE can of Mountain Dew.  It tasted so good.  Prior to that I have only been able to take a couple of sips of any liquid at a time and I probably consume the equivalent of a can of pop (12 oz) over 3 or 4 days  We picked up our two granddaughters (5 & 8) from my Mom's and brought them home and I played with them all afternoon until my son-in-law picked them up after work.  I cooked supper, washed some clothes and had a long talk with my middle son.  It was a great day.  This morning as I type this I am feeling good.  I've taken my anti-nausea regimen of 4 pills and am planning on getting out after while to do a little grocery shopping.  What a difference not having that Benedryl made!

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