August 2010 Rads

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  • mofend
    mofend Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    Hi, everyone - I'm new to this group - was in the February chemo group and now moving on to rads.  Had second treatment today - two down and thirty one more to go!  The hardest part for me is going to be the drive, but other than that, so far so good.  Is anyone else in this group on herceptin through rads?  Mo

  • Lady_Madonna
    Lady_Madonna Member Posts: 472
    edited August 2010

    Hi Mo, I'm on Herceptin also.  I know the rads onc factored that in when they drew up my rads plan, although I don't think it really affected the outcome.  I'm three down and 33 to go!  It's a great feeling to be checking things off the list, isnt' it?!

  • janabananna
    janabananna Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2010

    Lady Madonna and SGJ, I totally know what you mean about fretting more over the radiation than the chemo.  I think I had convinced myself that the chemo was taking medicine that had nasty side effects, but overall it is "good" for me.  The radiation seems more destructive and counterintuative, especially doing it day after day.  Seems kind of like touching a hotplate or putting your hand in the fire over and over.

    I have to say, however, that things are going well so far.  I had #5 today (will have 25 regulars and then 8 boosts to just the tumor site) and am only slightly uncomfortable/tender (mostly on my nipple and excisions).  No visible effects so far, and I was finally able to breath normally today instead of being on the verge of hyperventilating.

    My surgeon suggested ibuprofen three times a day during radiation.  He has observed fewer radiation side effects in women who do that, and he has even seen women in their 5th or 6th week of radiation that barely have any skin changes.  I'm taking the ibuprofen, using aloe vera a couple times a day over the entire area, and using Aquaphore on my nipple and incisions at bedtime (may increase that as needed).  That Miaderm sounds like good stuff, though.  Is the only place to get it via internet?

    Mo - I am also doing Herceptin every three weeks, through the radiation treatment and beyond.  I think most of us HER2+ folks are.  Cool

    Hang in there, everyone!!  (BTW, I am more thirsty too, but less hungry.  Could be a good combo weight-wise.)

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited August 2010

    mofend - I am on herceptin as well.

    I wanted to post more but I have to go home and pack for vacation. I'm going to Puerto Rico for a few days. I come home Monday evening and start rads Tuesday morning so I will post after day 1!

    Have a good week everyone and good luck to those starting and already in process.

    Drim

  • janabananna
    janabananna Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2010

    Drim:

    Wowsa - Hair and a trip to Puerto Rico!  (I'm a bit jealous.)  Have a wonderful time and enjoy every minute!

    - Jana

  • againmine41
    againmine41 Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2010

    Day 4 and I feel drained afterwords. Unsure if its the heat or the rads. The radiologist said I could use this one deodorant (yeah!) It's called."Natural Fresh"...with this Ohio heat wave you need something.

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    Hi Ladies of August,

    I'm going for the simulation on Aug 17th and the Oncologist said I'd probably start rads a couple of days later. Soooo, it seems this is a good site for me as a lot of you ladies will have had a good start on your tx by the time I start. Maybe I can learn from you.

    I had a lumpectomy Dec 17th, started Chemo on Feb 3rd (4 infusions of AC followed by 12 weeks of Taxol). I'm very happy to be finished with that. My last Chemo was last Tuesday and I'm still pretty tired. But happy to be moving on.

    Jana: I haven't heard about taking ibuprofen. I guess your talking about taking just one tablet, right?

    Drim: can't imagine keeping your hair, so glad that worked for you, I've been bald since Feb.

    Hope everyone heals well and it isn't as difficult as we anticipate. Things usually aren't.

  • julieeee
    julieeee Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2010

    Hi all! I'm an Aug Rads starter, too. I got bumped back because I had to have surgery to remove the hematoma I developed after my lumpectomy. So...all planning for radiation is finally done & I start on Monday! Ladies, if this helps at all, I'm a Radiation Therapist and a cancer patient (visions of that hair restoration commercial).  My boss is my Rad Onc & my co-workers will be treating me. Weird, but strangely comfortable. I'm having the standard 28 txs to my entire breast & 5 boosts to the scar area. I've seen painful skin reactions & no reactions at all. It seems to depend on if there's any "folds" in the skin when you're laying down with your arms up. The photon energy gets trapped in these folds and "bounces around" causing skin reactions. Also, under your breast & under your arm. These areas are so skin-on-skin as we go through our day, so they don't get enough air. Any place that there's friction! I will be running around my house braless & keeping my arm away from my body, to get air to the armpit, if I'm laying on the couch watching tv or reading. Also, soft, old t-shirts worn inside out (no seams to cause irritation), will be my outfit of choice as much as possible. I ordered some of that Miaderm, too. My clinic just recommends Aloe & some Aquafor for the nipple, but I really want to try the Miaderm. I'm excited to start radiation. Okay, that sounds nuts! But I want to feel like I'm doing something to continue the fight. I haven't started my Tamoxifen yet, but I have started my Lupron shots & experiencing the "heat wave."

    Fiesty, fighting Pink Sister!!! 

  • Lady_Madonna
    Lady_Madonna Member Posts: 472
    edited August 2010

    Hi Julieeee (wow, that's a lot of eee's, can I call you Jules?) 

    Wow, we're so lucky to have a rads tech in our group!!  Hoo-boy are you going to get questions out the wahzoo!!  Thanks for the tips, I'm not exactly small chested and I'm already having some discomfort after only four treatments.  I have 28 regular and 8 boosts; they're using "field within a field" on me.  I was really freaked out about having a daily x-ray too until I was told the x-ray was only a teeny tiny fraction of the radiation I'm getting from the daily treatment.  Great, I'm gonna be glowing!  I guess this is just standard operating prodecure! 

  • julieeee
    julieeee Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2010

    Lady Madonna---Yes! Jules is great! They're right about the xray! It's the tiniest fraction! We don't need to see lots of detail, so we don't need "strong" energy in our xrays. As opposed to MRIs & CTs where detail is so important. We just need to see the treatment field to make sure the borders are exactly what the DR ordered. We make sure all breast tissue is in the field. That usually means 2 finger widths below and above the breast, straight down the middle of the chest, and about halfway down the affected side. It's a nice margin on all sides of the breast to insure we get all the breast tissue. If their machine is like ours, they can take the xray while they're treating you, so there's no extra radiation. I'm sure different DRs do things a little different, but that's basically how it looks!

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    I agree with Lady M, it's good to have a radiation therapist who's also a cancer patient (though sorry about that)  Frown in the group. You will surely understand us well enough. And certainly be better able to empathize with your patients.

    Welcome! and thx for the information on the folds of the skin and keeping everything dry and friction free. I was in the health science's too (Respiratory Therapist) so I really enjoy hearing the reason behind the tech-y stuff!

  • SGJ05
    SGJ05 Member Posts: 73
    edited August 2010

    Mofend--I am also on Herceptin!! Seems to be lots of us.

    Drim--Have a great time in Peurto Rico-YAY!!!

    Janabananna--That is wonderful to hear you are doing so well, reassures me that it won't be so bad and for the tip on Ibuprofan, I will have to ask my onc about trying that, thanks for sharing!!!

    Julieeee--Glad to hear we have our own official expert, are you prepared for all the questions, lol.

    Well, it looks like I officially start on Monday!! Now, out of curiousity, so I ask them for a prescription for creams or is this something you all have gotten OTC? I want to be prepared for any/all skin reactions ahead of time.

     Hope you are all having a great Friday!!

  • Lady_Madonna
    Lady_Madonna Member Posts: 472
    edited August 2010

    Silvadene... I've heard it's a great Rx, but I haven't been offerered anything, just told to use Aquaphor and aloe.  Maybe they hope we won't end up needing it?  Still, I wish they would give up the Rx up front, like they do with chemo.

  • mom2westies
    mom2westies Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2010

    ust finished 8 of 28 rads and at this moment am more concerned about signing up for this board correctly than the BC !  Have I done it correctly. Please advise.

  • againmine41
    againmine41 Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2010
    It is great to have a radiation therapist here, but do wish it was for other reasons then being a patient yourself. Frown OH the folds! I have such a bad 'heat' rash under my breasts and left arm. It's even starting down my lower part of my chest right above my navel. I had some yesterday...but today it really went to town on my skin. So glad the weekend is a none rad time so I can air out a bit. This was my day 5. 
  • janabananna
    janabananna Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2010

    Eight down and so far, so good.  My SLN biopsy scar is getting a bit tender, probably because it gets rubbed more by my arm.  I tried wearing one of my "regular" nylon bras for a bit yesterday ... not a good idea as it trapped the heat in there and my skin did start to get irritated.  As soon as I switched to cotton (after aloeing myself up), it felt much better!

    I love the tips and inside scoop from Julieee - thank you!  It is comforting having you here.

    Carolyn, I have been taking two ibuprofen (200 mg each) three times a day (with food).  To be honest, I don't recall if he said one or two and hadn't even questioned it since two is a therapeutic dose.  This is probably not a good idea for anyone with stomach problems though.

    Againmine - hang in there.  I'm sorry you're having problems already.  Hopefully the days off will help clear things up.

    I ordered the Miaderm.  Hope it is worth it - cha-ching!

    Have a great weekend, everyone!

  • bubbalu
    bubbalu Member Posts: 177
    edited August 2010

    Hi gals:  I'm new to this thread having been on 'Anyone Starting Chemo in Jan. 2010' then 'July Mastectomy' brings me here to radiation next.  I'm 70, was diagnosed 12/09, had 4 AC & 4Taxotere, then LMX (7/10) with node dissection (6+ of 12) now I'm starting rads mid August.  Had my initial consult, have my positioning next week and will start 33 rads shortly after that.  I too am having trepidations about radiation, had them with chemo big time but found a comfort level along the way. 

    My rad onc recommended Soothe & Cool Free, with aloe, Vit. A E & D.  Haven't yet heard of the Niaderm but I'm interested in knowing about it.  The rad nurse said that the burn is the biggest part of the radiation, followed by fatigue.  Not as bad as chemo fatigue tho'.  I'm mostly concerned about the scar on my chest and the radiation, it's been only a month since my surgery and will be about 6-7 weeks when I start.  I hate sunburn pain.  Was told not to use deodorant on the affected side.  Don't need to worry about shaving just yet as I don't have hair yet since February!

    I'm glad to know about the ibuprofen and was told to drink lots and lots of water like in chemo.  I was given a tip by a friend who said to apply the cream immediately after your treatment before you re-dress.  She had no burn.

    Was warned about swelling and tightening of the chest tissues too.  Anyone hear that one?

    I truly could not have gotten this far without this website and these threads from all you gals that hold each other up and care and share so much...........'we're in it to win it'.

  • julieeee
    julieeee Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2010

    Babbalu--welcome!!  Yes, I've had patients express a swelling & tightening feeling. The radiation affects the tissue inside & out, basically everything in it's path. The good news is--our healthy cells can repair & reproduce themselves and we'll heal nicely AND any cancer cells that MAY be lurking can't repair themselves or reproduce after radiation. They're too mutated, so they die. Unfortunately our skin can take a beating while we're going thru this.

    I'm interested in the positive affects in taking ibuprofen. I'm going to try that, too. I get the stomach upset from that stuff, but maybe if I took some once in awhile it would help.

    My boob is just starting to look "normal" since surgery. It just amazes me that they can take out a big chunk during a lumpectomy, and I don't look concave. The body is an amazing thing, isn't it? It just heals so well! 

    I joined a cancer support group this week. The woman who runs it is a cancer survivor & a psychologist. It's sooo nice to be with people who "get it" in the group & on this site!

    Fiesty Pink Sisters Unite 

  • bubbalu
    bubbalu Member Posts: 177
    edited August 2010

    Julieeee:  curious about just how bad the burn can get and how painful it is.  I'm concerned about how the scar will hold up under conditions like that.  I hate sunburns! What is the benefit of the Miaderm and where does one get it?

    I got all thru chemo with just Advil and if you take it with food it should not upset your stomach.  For surgery tho' I needed percoset!

    Thanks

  • leenee38
    leenee38 Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2010

    Hi everyone! Im starting my rads tx on Aug 16, will have CT and planning next week. So glad to have found this thread so we can share tips and experiences during our treatment.  Truth to tell, I am dreading rads coz of the SE's but after talking to my rad onco who said that it will reduce recurrence from 20-30% fr lumpectomy alone to 5% w/ rads,I felt a little better. My OncotypeDX score is only 5 so no chemo :). I am also doing integrative treatment to beat this thing and so glad that my rad onco is willing to work with my ND as has my BS and med oncologist.

    One lesson I have learned so far in this journey is that we cannot let this RULE our life and how to live it but rather we need to RULE over it with all the strength and faith that we can beat this.

    Sending warm hugs to everyone..

  • julieeee
    julieeee Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2010

    Hi Bubbalu!  The skin reactions I've seen range from barely able to see any skin changes to skin that has "opened up" in places, especially in the armpit area. It's such a sensitive place because we spend the majority of our day with our arms down, so the skin there is trapped. We tell our patients to try to keep that area open to the air as much as possible and not to wear any tight clothing or anything that rubs. I haven't seen any scars that have gotten irritated! The majority of reactions happen under the arm & under the breast. The skin-on-skin areas, anywhere where heat & sweat get trapped, can make skin reactions worse. Some people also can get small, red itchy bumps on their chest. These are completely normal & will heal. There's a name for it, but I'm not sure of the spelling! Hydrocortisone works well for that.

    I had not actually heard of Miaderm until I joined this site. It's found on miaderm.com. It sounds great, but I haven't read anyone's experience with it. It's kind of expensive though  Frown

  • againmine41
    againmine41 Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2010

    Does anyone know why we are not to put antiperspirant on the rads side? is it ok on off rad days? And hi to all that are new! 

  • Sams_MominAtlanta
    Sams_MominAtlanta Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2010

    Hi all,

    Coming in a little late.  Had my sim scheduled for August 10, rad starting August 17 -  BUT still weighing in on finishing Taxol after taking a break from AC.  ahem, the break was a Dx with expander on June 23.  Loving to hear your experiences.

    Hugs,

    Sheila 

  • jsmiley60
    jsmiley60 Member Posts: 204
    edited August 2010

    I'm glad I found this thread! I had six months of chemo which ended in April, then bmx with tissue expanders in June. Was told months ago I wouldn't need radiation, but onc wants to do it because 3 lymph nodes were positive out of 14 removed and in one the capsule was broken. So I go to radiologist next Thursday 8/12. Not sure when I will start........

    Againmine: we live down the road from each other almost! I am by the Dayton Mall if you know where that is.

  • arubajan05
    arubajan05 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2010

    Hi all!

    I am new to this group as well and I am glad I found this!  I started rads on Thursday 8/5. I am scheduled for 35 treatments (have no idea what you all are talking about with "boosts"). Mine are at 7am YIKES! I was told to put nothing but 3x daily aloe lotion on my right breast. My husband is enjoying that part of his "nurse" status! LOL  I finished chemo on June 30 (4 x TC) and am bald as an eagle on my scalp but today have stubble on my legs. WOO HOO! 

    I appreciate all your questions and comments.  It's so nice to have someone to "talk" with who is going through the same thing. Also I feel right at home here as there seems to be a lot of people on here from Ohio. We still own a condo in Lima, Ohio and I lived near Mason, Ohio for 15 years and went to Miami of Ohio to college!  Big Hugs to all you buckeyes and to the rest of you Pink Warriors as well!

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited August 2010
    arubajan,  the more I read these posts about the treatments and all the side effects we could have the more I think we are not just Pink Warriors, but we are members of the sisterhood of tough titties.  Wink
  • bubbalu
    bubbalu Member Posts: 177
    edited August 2010

    arubajan05:  My understanding of 'boosts' is that at the end of the weekly treatment plan, they give you a few treatments to the area where the tumor was that are focused and narrowed to that area specifically.  I am getting 30 treatments and 3 boosts.  Maybe someone else knows more about this?

  • againmine41
    againmine41 Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2010

    Jsmiley60, What a small world it is! I know where the dayton Mall is...I used to live in Fairborn before moving up here in Darke county...talk about culture shock. lol 

    And Arubajan05, our pastor is from Lima...he was a farmer  up there for years before he came to us.

    His daughter has been in battle with brain cancer for several years...but she is winning!!

    Chabba, your post really gave me a chuckle today! And Oh did I need that! 

  • bonniewe
    bonniewe Member Posts: 42
    edited August 2010

    Hi, everyone, I will be on treatment 8 of 33 tomorrow (Monday, Aug 9).   I live in Circleville, Ohio for you Ohioans (recently moved here from my beloved Dallas, Texas).    I had a slight redness on treatment 3 that the rad tech noticed, so the rad onco had me purchase Miaderm (they gave me a sample until my tube showed up).   I've used it starting evening of treatment 3 and so far nothing new.    Expecting some changes this week as I move toward the middle of treatments which is when I hear the changes start to show up.   Who knows, we are all so different!    Have a good evening everyone and I look forward to reading more of your posts!

  • janabananna
    janabananna Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2010

    I saw my doctor today and asked her about using antipersperant over the weekend.  She said that was fine, as long the skin is not irritated or broken in any way and it is all washed off before Monday's treatment.  She said the small amounts of metal/aluminum can cause problems during radiation.

    I had treatment #9 of 33 today.  My doctor said she didn't expect to see any skin changes for another week or two.  I told her I had purchased some Miaderm off the internet and she said it does work well but not to glop in on too thick, just a thin layer.  She continued to recommend Aquafor on my nipple.

    Is anyone else sore from putting your arm over your head?  That seems to be my biggest issue so far (which is a good thing).  Cool

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