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  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited July 2010

    Michele...((hugs)), I hope your foob isn't infected.  I don't know about you, but my 'coping mechanism' has been to push everything scary to the back of my mind, even though it pops up in bits and pieces to some extent each day, I keep putting it back.  Then, add in all of the other stressors encountered daily...eventually, we have to explode, to break, to crash.  Today was my breakdown day, too... 

    I think we are fully entitled to panic, to curl up, to scream and get it all out...*sigh*  I do truly hope you are feeling a bit better, and that your son will heal quickly.  I am so sorry that you had a terrible day, but we have to allow ourselves these bad days, you're going through alot right now.  ((hugs))

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited July 2010
    Ok, so I had a really bad day....

    Saw my PS this morning, who walked into the room, stated, "I don't even need to look at you, I won't do reconstruction", and was basically a huge bitch (sorry).  I was crying in the office, all the way home so hard that I had to pull over....it wasn't just that I may never have breasts again, it was her meanness, her attitude, making me feel like a total idiot.  It was the fact that so much is going on here--clots, and Julia, and fears and frustrations...it was everything pouring out. 

    Then I get home, try to get help for Julia's newest problems, and got nowhere, no one knew where to send her...finally ended up getting her a primary care doctor (she never had one) we see on Monday, who will hopefully order some tests to rule out a mini stroke or heart problems, which are my 2 biggest fears. 

    Then the final straw....Mayo Clinic has declined her.  No details yet, but I have a call in to her GI doc and he will have to call the Mayo and get them to change their minds.  Otherwise, we start all over researching, calling, etc....

    After my appt, I walked through the parking lot, which happens to back up to a huge 'attraction' of sorts out here called Domino Farms....it is owned by the Domino Pizza co, is a huge petting farm.  Anyway, the parking lot backs up to the field where the bison are located, and I find these animals the most awesome to look at, I mean a herd of bison located in a rural area just outside of Ann Arbor...I just stood there crying, looking at these HUGE animals, and some cute baby bison...it made me feel a bit better for the moment

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited July 2010
  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2010

    Michele- I hope his growth plate is not involved and that your foob starts behaving.



    Judy- Call Nola and see if they can help. I do not think that you would scare them and you maybe able to get an out of state exception since your local dr's are turning you away ((hugs)). I really hope it isn't something serious with Julia.



    OKAY as for meltdowns I have kept it to myself BUT I have been having a ton of them. It started with Brooke who is 7 talking about when we go Wedding dress shopping when she is going to get married. All I could do was sit and pray to God that I am around then. Then my DH is talking about buying a trailer in the park at the beach that we go to and it would be a 10 year loan and once again I started please let me be here. I hate, HATE, HATE this disease. I hate that I feel a million times better than last year but I still feel like a have a long way to go.



    I was thinking about going back to the psychiatrist but I am not really sure if it would do any good. I finally told my DH yesterday and we were talking about it and I realized that I have done everything that I can to keep the beast away or as I say "to kill the beast". So I am 18 mths out of been deemed NED and having melt downs....grrrr...



    Oh it also doesn't help that I forgot my bathing suit and I had to go bathing suit shopping and I was depressed. My boobs look awesome BuT when I kept loosing skin for my flaps I need football flaps of skin and they show with about 85 per of bathing suits :( I found one but I am not in love with it. I guess I shouldn't whine but I am just ready to scream at the next person who tries to sell me a pink ribbon something



    Sorry for the book. I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited July 2010

    {{{{Judy}}}} and {{{Jaimie}}}  I totally get it.  This time in our lives is so hard.  We want to be healthy but there's this lingering doubt.  It sucks.

    Judy~ I think your clotting issues are what scares them off.  Howe things  are things going with that?  Maybe once that is stabilized, a PS will reconsider.  {{{hugs}} Being boobless isn't the end of the world but it is having the choice taken away that really stinks...

    I'm a weeping mess this morning.  My foob is still red and I am anxious as hell. :(

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2010

    Michele- are you on anything yet ???

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited July 2010

    yeah. 4X the regular dose of bactrim

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2010

    ((Hugs)). I hope your foob starts to behave.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited July 2010

    keeping you in my prayers Michele!

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited August 2010

    Michele, yes, they are concerned about clotting...right now I am scheduled to see the hemo doc in September, and probably off the coumadin at that time for genetic testing.  With Julia testing positive for Protien S deficiency, I am guessing she got it from me.  But people on blood thinners get surgery all the time, so we will see what she thinks.  I plan on getting many more opinions, and it will be at least another year before I see any surgery happening.

    Hope you are feeling better, although the ticket thing stinks...how is your foob doing, has the bactrim kicked in yet?

    Jaimie:  hugs to you...I think it is helpful that we come here and admit to our meltdowns, our worries...then we know we aren't alone in this...

    Today was a better, but busy day.  Tomorrow we are going to Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village for the Makers Faire...my dad is buying us a membership.  We are very lucky to live 10 minutes from an attraction that people visit from around the world.  We used to be members for years, it will be nice to be again.  I'm excited : )

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited August 2010

    Sorry Michele you are having a problem with your Foob!  I had issues with my exchange, woke up a week later and foobie was swollen and hurt like a b8tch!  PS put me on hefty Zyvox... seemed to have worked.   I hope it gets better for you!

    Judy sorry about Julia, that poor girl sure has been thru way too much. And sorry about your ordeal with the PS... what a jerk!!!!  I agree, find someone else.

    Jaime...meltdowns are normal and you are allowed!  Just ask me... I just finished my weekly one a couple hours ago.  My onc. is telling me to see a therapist, I have resisted so far. Just one more appointment to keep!

    Well we leave for Lake Placid on Saturday for a week of camping, then when we get back I get a port placed, then I start that nasty stuff again.  You have no idea how I DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS. 

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2010
    Bethie ~ Happy belated birthday!  I hope you had a great one. Smile

    (((Judy))) ~ How dare that PS treat you that way! Yell No wonder you had a meltdown with all the worries you already have and then to be deal with that be-otch...grrrr.  I'm glad the bison helped you feel a bit better; thanks for the picture.  (((hugs)))

    (((Michele))) ~ Oh heck, I hope the Bactrim does its job and that your foob is ok.  I'm so sorry about Bradley's leg; I pray he has a quick recovery.

    (((Jaimie))) ~ I'm wondering, too, if I need to go back to a therapist.  I just wonder if any ol' therapist will do or do we need someone who gets the whole cancer thing.  And you know you can share your meltdowns with us anytime!!!

    (((Susan))) ~ Enjoy your vacation.  I hope you can relax some and not worry too much although I'm sure that's easier said than done. Undecided

    I thought today would be my last Herceptin, but nope, there's one more.  I'm feeling physically better since I've been on Effexor, but my mind just won't stop thinking, thinking, thinking ALL THE TIME.  And I'm ready to slap the daylights out of my brother....

    My brother is an alcoholic.  I've spent years watching him go in and out of jail, in and out of rehab, on and off the wagon.  I've helped anyway that I could while taking care to not enable him, but I'm so fed up with it now.  He got locked up last week, and now he's whining again, "What am I going to do?  What am I going to do?" 

    Well, how about this:  DON'T DRINK.  If you don't drink, you won't get drunk.  Period.  It's a sure thing! 

    And then I cried while I thought about all of my lovely sisters here.  We're having toxins pumped into our bodies, taking pills, taking shots, having scans and tests and surgeries and more and more and more and just hoping hoping hoping that it'll keep The Beast at bay.  His cure is so simple, and he's unwilling to do it.  It makes me sick to think that if only we knew a sure thing to avoid, we'd do it and be GLAD to do it even if it was our favorite food/drink/whatever.  It is so frustrating!!!!!  Cry

    On a lighter note, Mr. Artemis and I took my 5-yr-old niece to the Georgia Aquarium this weekend.  Even though it was insanely crowded, we had lots of fun. Smile

    (((Furies)))  Love love love to all of you!
  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2010
    Bethie ~ Happy belated birthday!  I hope you had a great one. Smile

    (((Judy))) ~ How dare that PS treat you that way! Yell No wonder you had a meltdown with all the worries you already have and then to be deal with that be-otch...grrrr.  I'm glad the bison helped you feel a bit better; thanks for the picture.  (((hugs)))

    (((Michele))) ~ Oh heck, I hope the Bactrim does its job and that your foob is ok.  I'm so sorry about Bradley's leg; I pray he has a quick recovery.

    (((Jaimie))) ~ I'm wondering, too, if I need to go back to a therapist.  I just wonder if any ol' therapist will do or do we need someone who gets the whole cancer thing.  And you know you can share your meltdowns with us anytime!!!

    (((Susan))) ~ Enjoy your vacation.  I hope you can relax some and not worry too much.

    I thought today would be my last Herceptin, but nope, there's one more.  I'm feeling physically better since I've been on Effexor, but my mind just won't stop thinking, thinking, thinking ALL THE TIME.  And I'm ready to slap the daylights out of my brother....

    My brother is an alcoholic.  I've spent years watching him go in and out of jail, in and out of rehab, on and off the wagon.  I've helped anyway that I could while taking care to not enable him, but I'm so fed up with it now.  He got locked up last week, and now he's whining again, "What am I going to do?  What am I going to do?" 

    Well, how about this:  DON'T DRINK.  If you don't drink, you won't get drunk.  Period.  It's a sure thing! 

    And then I cried while I thought about all of my lovely sisters here.  We're having toxins pumped into our bodies, taking pills, taking shots, having scans and tests and surgeries and more and more and more and just hoping hoping hoping that it'll keep The Beast at bay.  His cure is so simple, and he's unwilling to do it.  It makes me sick to think that if only we knew a sure thing to avoid, we'd do it and be GLAD to do it even if it was our favorite food/drink/whatever.  It is so frustrating!!!!!  Cry

    On a lighter note, Mr. Artemis and I took my 5-yr-old niece to the Georgia Aquarium this weekend.  Even though it was insanely crowded, we had lots of fun. Smile

    (((Furies)))  Love love love to all of you!
  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited August 2010

    ((Susan))~ I hope you have a fantastic vacation and do not think for a minute about next week or the upcoming chemo. 

    ((Artemis))~ I am sorry that your brother is not willing to help himself. 

    Michele~ Is your foob starting to behave ??

    As for me I am thinking more and more about therapy just to relieve the stress in my life.  I have a to of stress that is stemming from my mother that she just does not get and never will get.  My DH and I stayed up until 1am talking about it and he said that I need to talk to someone about her :(.  My last therapist told me to get away from her but it sure is hard when it is your mother. 

    Anyhow we are getting ready to go to the beach this weekend and my MIL is coming up from Florida.  We are going to enjoy the rest of summer the best we can.  I have been getting busier with sessions and now I just wished that I could stay focused.  I do fine during the session but the post processing part and staying focused is driving me batty.  It would normally take about 2 hours and now it is taking anywhere from 4-8 hours which is WAY, WAY too long. 

    I hope everyone is having a great day.  My kids are going to vacation bible school....whoooo....so a couple of free hours for me!!!  Which really means yay I get to clean in peace. :)

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited August 2010

    Ok furies.... I am officially crazy. <sigh>

    I went to a support group last night (my 1st upon the advice of my counselor) and made a total ass of myself.  I went to speak and couldn't say ANYTHING and then just sobbed.  I kid you not... I was humiliated.  In a room full of pink shit and gung-ho ladies, I crumbled.  (and I'm talking cried like I've NEVER cried before) Won't be doing that again.  Gonna stay here with my furies.

    Love and hugs to you all!!

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited August 2010

    ps. My foob is better but the abx are making me vomit (who woulda guessed that!? lol). I have oral thrush, other yeast infections, diarrhea, and a host of other signs of toxicity from the high dose (racing heart, lightheadedness).  Saw my ps and he said "yeah, I kinda forget that you only weigh ~100 lbs so I should've dosed you like a child..."   So, the dose was cut by 25% and we'll see. It is still higher that what you'd get for a UTI or resp infection but not as whopping.

    Oh~ and Bradley is in a cast.  The CT showed that the growth plate was involved but that the bone isn't displaced.  If we can keep him that way, he will stay outta surgery...

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited August 2010

    Oh, Michele, I am so sorry. ((((Hugs))))

    I never thought I was much of a "face to face" support group person either, I also did't want to meet a whole load of middle aged Stage 1'ers...I understand how you were feeling.

    Hope the reduced antibiotics work better. Take care of yourself! Love you.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited August 2010

    yeah. I was the youngest person there by far.  And, the ladies were mostly saying that while having BC is hard, it changed their lives for the better.  Some retired to pursue their passions; some went on big trips when they finished chemo; some make it a point to spend more time with their kids/grandkids... None of that applied to me.  BC sucks and the aftermath on my life has been hell. I guess I *could* name a couple of silver-linings: meeting ya'll (and the ladies at NS) and being more patient with my kids (I want every moment to be a good one for them).  That's it!

    Oh yeah- to add to this, my DH is clinically depressed because he can't find a job so he isn't being as helpful at home.  I feel for him (he's been there beforeFrown) and realize that he can't help it so there's more for me to manage "since I'm out of treatment" and "perfectly healthy".

    Thanks, Kerry, for listening.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited August 2010

    hugs to Michele

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2010
    Oh, (((Michele))). Frown  So much crappity-crap-crap going on!!!  HUGE hugs to you and yours, sweetie.
  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited August 2010

    Sue:  I'm so sorry you're starting the nasty stuff again....have a wonderful time on your camping trip, take lots of pics for us to see when you get back!

    Elaine:  thanks, I should've just walked out as soon as she said "I agree with Dr. Wilkens...."    Sorry about your brother, that's a tough one....has he tried those pills that make you throw up if you drink alcohol?  I know someone who used those to quit drinking....You shouldn't have to deal with that right now, but I understand, with him being your brother, you are between a rock and a hard place...(((hugs))) 

    Jaimie: (((hugs))) to you too....sorry your mom is causing  you so much grief, that's rough, I can see why you're torn about how to handle it.  Hope you have a nice, relaxed time at the beach next weekend

    Michele:  oh geez,  (((hugs)))  I do understand the breaking down and crying, really.... I never really felt comfortable with the idea of joining a local group either.  Coming here is by far the best, we have been through this together from day one, with lots of support to give and that's what's important.   While I'm sorry your hubby is out of work (been there ourselves), and I know how very hard that is....I don't agree with the "out of treatment" and "perfectly healthy" part.  My onc likes to say that she wants the "whole" me to be healthy...being sad, scared and depressed does affect how we feel physically, and I hope your DH understands that....

    Kerry:  lol, technically, I'm middle-aged at 46 ; )  but am still younger than alot of the women at my cancer center, who seem to average somewhere in their 60's....my onc always says "since you're so young"....makes me laugh, but I guess compared to many patients, I still am (trying to convince myself here, lol) 

    Ok, so those of you who saw my FB post already know, but Julia has been 'accepted' to the Mayo Clinic.  Of course, now I am worried about how long it is going to take to see all their doctors, get things scheduled...it could be after Christmas before she actually gets her surgery.  Now I need to start getting organized for this....records, notes, travel/lodging, etc.. 

    Hugs to all of you, I think of you all every day

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited August 2010

    Ok Michele you are not crazy.  I wish you lived closer or you lived closer you would love the group that I get together with.  We talk about how much BC sucks, we drink and just have a blast.  Oh I forgot we also do a show and tell at the bars in the bathroom.  I think you just may have found the wrong group for you. 

  • living4today
    living4today Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    Although, I don't comment often, I enjoy reading all your posts and cover you all with prayers...Now, I have a question for you all...first here's my post that I posted under the TN topic.

    Does anyone else feel this cancer journey is like the Lamb Chop song..."There is a song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend...??"  For the record, I finished chemo in June 2009 and radiation in Sept 2009, with 2nd stage reconstruction (implants) in March 2010.  The last few weeks, I have been feeling great.  Lots of "zip", "energy", and "hope."  I went to the gynecologists/oncologists this past week for a follow up appt.  I was shocked when he recommended a complete hysterectomy (with ovaries removed.)  His case for this is that I had double breast cancer, endometriosis and now am having a period ever 2 1/2 weeks since March.  Since I am like to research, I have spent some time researching "instant" menopause...and I thought chemo "sucked"...The doctor is giving me until October for my body to straighten out....urghhh!!!  Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.  Thanks.

    I know some of you have had hysto's...did you have your ovary's removed to?  Can you give me any tips on what to expect?  What is recovery time, etc?  I am so sick of using my vacation time for doctor appts and surgerys.

     Thanks!

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited August 2010

    Kim~ I only had my ovaries out.  I kept my uterus.  It was the easiest procedure yet.  However, I must admit that I've been having mood swings and sleep issues since... I was in menopause already from chemo but I must have been getting a little estrogen from my ovaries... Regardless, it is very freeing to not have to worry about OC.  I'm glad I did it!

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited August 2010

    Kim - I had my Ovaries out too (not uterus), and I found it super straight forward too. I do get hot flashes and all that lovely stuff, but I am on Arimidex too, so who knows what causes what. I have no regrets at all for doing it.

  • Bethie1
    Bethie1 Member Posts: 393
    edited August 2010

    hey gang!!! Take a look at my new pic!!! more hair and still Donny & Marie--just got back this past weekend--big reunion with Donny--wish I could've taken my "sisters" with me and we could've invaded Vegas.

    Michele---HUGS!!!! Hope you're better!! I have days like that ---- times when I think I'm PMSing without a period! I'm on edge every month wondering if I'm gonna get a period  ---- I have to inform doctor if I'm getting it regularly, then that means I'm producing too much estrogen, and tumor was estrogen positive--but Donny & Marie trip ROCKED!!!!   I couldn't envision what my 40th birthday was gonna entail when I was younger, but to be cancer-free, and see Donny & Marie in Vegas--I couldn't have had it any better.  Donny just hugged me when I told him backstage I was cancer free--which brings me to a thought.  He has a campaign going on called his M.A.D campaign--Making a Difference.  I suggested to him that I along with whoever I could get in my area save our bottle slips once returning our soda/water bottles/cans, then donate them to your local gilda's club.  Would you guys be interested?  Let me know

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2010
    Judy ~ yes, my brother has been on those pills many times.  He's been to every halfway house, every 12-step program, every mental health program within a hundred miles.  I've come to realize that he'd simply rather drink than not drink.  He's my brother, I love him, and I don't want to sound selfish but I just can't deal with him right now. Frown  I've too much baggage of my own to sort out.

    I keep hearing how "young" I am, too, and I'm 48! Surprised I was 46 at dx, and was shocked at how all the docs kept saying "...because you're so young, we'll do this that and the other..."  But there must be something to it because in the year and a half that I've been going to chemo/Herceptin, I've been the youngest person every single time.

    Jaimie ~ your BC group sounds like a hoot!  Maybe we should all move close to you. Cool

    living4today ~ "The Song That Never Ends" just about sums it up, LOL!  It seems it's always something...  I've not had any gyn surgery, but I wish you luck on your decision.  *hugs*

    Bethie ~ so glad you had a great time with Donny and Marie!  Your project idea sounds interesting, but I don't know what bottle slips are...?!

    Michele ~ hope your infection and Bradley's leg are coming along ok.

    Have a good day, Furies!!! 
  • Bethie1
    Bethie1 Member Posts: 393
    edited August 2010

    Hey gang!!! Bethie's back--but tired--I NEED to put myself in bed early!! 

    Artemis--- and anyone else interested----Do any of you have a deposit of a nickel that you get charged when you purchase soda and/or bottled water? Do you then return the soda can/bottles, etc to where you purchased them so you can get your deposit back and get a slip to redeem off your groceries?  if so, you have a bottle redemption program in your state.  My idea is to have people get these bottle slips out of the machines where you would return cans at the store, and donate them to Gilda's Club.  I tried setting something up in Walmart, but found out the way I'd have gone about it would've been soliticing.  If you can and want to save these bottle slips on your own like I'm gonna do, that would be appreciated.  I hope to do this for the next year.

    Thanks guys

  • living4today
    living4today Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2010

    Thanks everyone for your thoughts!  I have a second opinion scheduled for Friday.

     Bethie, great idea!  Sorry to say, we don't have this type of program in our area.  good luck!

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2010

    Bethie ~ nope, we don't have that here.  It's a great idea, though, and I bet Gilda's Club will appreciate it.

    living4today ~ I'll be thinking of you tomorrow and praying you get some answers that make sense for you.  Keep us posted!

    Furies ~ I started an adult beginning ballet class last night, and it was awesome!  I'm not one to stick with an excercise program, so dance is a good way for me to go.  It was hard work, but so much fun; I can hardly wait for the next class!

    Have a good day; I love you all so much!!
    Artemis

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