Chemo June 2010

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  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2010

    hi tmarina,

    thanks for the anaemia info. my platelets are low too, but better than yours still (140,000). and my wbc are dropping but still in normal (not chemo) range.

    i am also eating fresh fruit and veg - but trying to wash it well first :-)

    Here's an article about the gel gloves i used during the taxol tx: http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/195676873.html

  • NorthernGirl
    NorthernGirl Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2010

    wow... I've been out of touch for a few days and found that this thread has been very busy!

    We went camping with the family. I wasn't sure I could go as lots of things were causing my hands to burn.  Camping sure doesn't present the most sterile conditions. But things were fine... just a bit of burning sensation and sore bones in my pelvis.  We had such a good time sailing and playing, watching the stars, hiking. I loved it.  I am so glad it worked out. It's great to feel well.

    It makes me sick to think of going for chemo again on Thursday. When I go for my blood test on Wednesday, I will ask about the cold gel gloves. It sounds like a good idea.  

    DesignerMom:  Your guy sounds great. It's hard to imagine going through all this without a dear, loving and reliable friend. Cheers

  • Isla
    Isla Member Posts: 82
    edited August 2010

     Hi ladies

    I feel a little as if I'm running along last in the chemo race at the moment !!  Loving hearing about all of you having your last treatments (especially the AC-gang cos I'm a member) but as mine were only x3 weekly, and I had a week delay because of my neutropenia I've only just had #3.

    Until now I've had really boring side effects compared to the wonderful array of rashes, bumps, and other weird and wonderful things happening to others - it seems there is just no end to all the unpleasant 'additions' that go with this treatment.

    For the first time, this time having previously (rounds 1 +2) only had mind numbing fatigue and that steroid face congestion / nausea sensation the chemo-gods decided it was my turn for full blown vomiting.  After a morning kneeling at the white throne my oncology nurse advised it was time to come in for a few hours for fluids and the anti-nausea medications via a drip.  Dr said that chemo had quite a cumulative effect in the body so you dont really actually recover fully between cycles, which might account for why all of a sudden I got this bonus!

    However, now 5 days out I'm feeling brighter which I'm hoping will continue.  My 17 yr old is performing in a major music event out of town this coming weekend so I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed that I'll feel well enough for the weekend away to sit and bask in some reflected glory!!

    What to say - I think WE are all very brave.  We solider on, through all these hiccups, trying to stay positive, trying to become our own best advocates in our health decisions. We deal with stupid receptionists, daft comments, being bald yet keep supporting each other... I think our June 2010 ladies ROCK !!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2010

    Isla-So glad you have arrived back from your misery.  Nothing like shouting "Beulah" into the big white, porcelain phone!!  Dang!

    Like Isla said, I am constantly moved by my new June 2010 friends.  Your strength, good humor, good advice brighten my days, they really do.

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    Latte,

    I'm on Taxotere and I use ice packs for my nails, hands and feet.

    Bon,

    I wouldn't be happy either.

    Julia

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    Well Ladies I had my 3rd TC today at the new center with the new onc.  It went great!  The nurses were so awesome, night and day from where I was going, they'd all been briefed by the onc. before I arrived about my history and how scared I was to get T again.  The nurse who took care of me (a BC survivor) went over the details of my prior infusions, then we came up with a plan on how to give the T starting at 15% speed and moving up gradually  to 50% speed.  I had no reactions whatsoever!  Had benadryl in pre-meds and dozed quite a bit during the infusion.  I was so happy, relieved, thrilled.  Now if I can make it through the next 48 hours with no fever, bladder issues or liver pain I'll declare success :-)

    Julia 

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2010

    Ladies, I called the onc today and asked for a script for the anxiety.  I admitted that just the thought of sitting in that infusion chair was causing me anxiety and if he didn't do somethng I didn't know if I would come back from Sturgis!  With that said then I headed over to geth my MUGA (nuclear cardiac test).  Guess what, the minute they started trying to find a vein I got that terrible taste in my mouth!  Ugh....then they blew the vein three times.  I know have two terrible bruises.  Good thing I have the break in chemo huh? 

    So, I am packing my bags and going to be patiently waiting at the front door on Wed when my hubby comes home.  I am going to Sturgis SD and party like a rock star.....or maybe not but I am going to relax and pretend that I am NOT battling the beast and have a good time.  I am going to see Mt Rushmore and Deadwood and pretend I am a gunfighter.  I promise to get pictures and share when we get back.  As for the riding my motorcyle - no due to the chest construction process I can't ride my own right now.  So, we are trailering Harley's out and I will ride with hubby.  I can get more pictures that way! Cool

    I want you all to hang int here and keep fighting! 
    Hugs all around.

  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited August 2010

    Jackie, my veins are a mess also.  I am getting a port put in on Monday so one more stick Wednesday to put up with.  It is horrible.  I hope you have an awesome time on your trip!!  Just relax and leave your worries behind. 

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2010

    it's 6am here and i haven't been able to get to sleep tonight - must be the steroids...i'm not worried or tense, just wide awake. my daughter will be awake soon, so no chance of any sleep until later in the day. hope i last till then.

    hope you are all doing OK! I love coming online and reading about what everyone is doing/thinking/going through - thanks June 2010 warriors!

  • janny99
    janny99 Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2010

    I just finished the last of my 9 weekly Taxol/Herceptin today.  I get 2 weeks off and then onto FAC every 3 weeks X3.  Glad to get a little break. 

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    Jackie-->  glad you called and got a scrip!  We suffer through enough--there is no reason not to get help with the anxiety!  Can't wait to see pics!

    Julia-->That's GREAT that you had a much better experience!  That's the way the nurses are SUPPOSED to treat you!  Good luck making it through the next few days!

    Latte-->hope you can get a nap in!

    Janny-->yay for finishing the TH! Laughing Hope you feel well during your break!

    Isla-->sorry to hear you had such a rough time. Frown  Hope you continue to feel better! Enjoy your weekend away!

    Northerngirl-->I'll be thinking of you on Thursday!  Take that Ativan if you have it!  It really helps with the "infusion" anxiety!  ( I know I keep pushing it--but it really helps!)

    Hope everyone has a great day!

    Tina

  • angelwoman1
    angelwoman1 Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2010

      Good morning everyone! Well get my 1st Taxol this Thursday.Kinda scared,been reading the posts. The nurse says it will be easier than the AC. I really hope so. They tell me if I have a reaction it will happen while I am there. Will get every 2 weeks and the Neulasta shot day after.

    I want to say God bless to each and everyone,you are all in my prayers. And thank you for all the help. It helps me to know I am not alone in this!

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    angelwoman-->keep us posted on how it goes as many of us will be starting Taxol soon!  I will be getting it every 2 weeks like you, and the shot the next day also.  I'm wondering what reason you were given for having it every 2 weeks instead of weekly? Did anyone explain the differences in se's?  I have to have it that way because of my neuropathy.  Do you only have to have 4 tx then, like me?

    God bless you too, and I'll be praying it goes well!

    Tina

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited August 2010

    OK so my PA told me that the no period/period/no period is because the chemo wants to shut my cycle down and my body doesn't want to... she said that hopefully the heavy bleeding won't affect my blood counts too much to delay my next treatment... and she said no tampons-higher infection risk.

  • angelwoman1
    angelwoman1 Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2010

    TMarina- The onc says it takes me 2 weeks to recover from the AC,and the AC is shrinking the tumor he did not want to change anything because it has been working so well. The nurses told me the Taxol will be easier on my body, I will still have Fatigue. The side affects are allergies,rash,nails,pain in joints for 48 hours. Now this is what I have been told. hopefully some of the people on this side can give us some additional information on this. I do get this 4 times every 2 weeks. When does your start?

    Pam

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    Thanks for the info Pam!  Mine doesn't start until the 23rd of Aug.  I'm out of town next week and my onc is out of town the week after.  He said it would be ok to have a 4 week break.  I'm looking forward to doing some fun things the next few weeks!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2010

    tmarina and jackie- I'm so happy you are both getting a real life vacation as well as an away from chemo vacation.  Take some big bites out of "normal" life!

    latte- I wish I could be there to help with your little one so you can have a nice nap.  I say plug in a lovely loooooong kid video and snooze away.

    Enjoyed a lovely Sunday with DH and my funny son in the Park.  The Monarch butterflies are everywhere, getting ready for their long migration.  Nothing like having a 190 acre front yard...and not having to mow it! 

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    Hi All

    I love all the updates.  I can start Taxol tomorrow even though I am being treated for a UTI.  I think I am happy about that. 

    I have a new slogan.  Yesterday I said half jokingly to the kids that I would like to stop chemo now and get on with my life.  They said Sorry Mom you can't stop chemo.  You have to get well.

    So here I go.  Gonna take the steroids tonight and tomorrow.  Already trying to decide how much Xanax I want to take in the next 24 hours.  Then I'm going through it just like everyone else.  Because We must get well!

    Blessings to all. 

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited August 2010

    ok so i awoke at 200 am this morning due to my lil guy being sick< both ends! and a 99.3 fever all nite was like that. its now 1030am and he is holding things down, maybe something he ate yeasterday, he ate a lot of buttery popcorn before bed. i dont need to get it this weekend beings its my low... im a bit worried.. he is feeling fine now????

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    JFV-->leave it to our kids to keep us focused on what's important.  What a blessing they are!

    Chey-->Wipe everything down with antibacterial wipes and no kissing those sick little cheeks!  Do what you can to protect yourself, and start drinking LOTS of fluids now.  If you do get sick, go in and get iv fluids if you need them.  Don't worry too much about getting sick--you do still have some immune system left, and the neulasta shot will kick in soon too.  But, still, be careful.  Could just be something he ate, like you said.  Little kids don't fight off germs as well as adults--sort of like us on chemo!

    D-mom--> sounds like you had a wonderful Sunday!

    Take care!

    Tina

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2010

    Okay, I did send my Onc photos of the itchy thing on my butt.  She agrees that as I used to get cold sores, this thing could, indeed, be a herpes outbreak caused by my supressed immune system.  Joy!  She wants me to see my regular doctor to see if it warrants being put on an anti viral prescription before my next chemo.  I asked if chemo could cause more severe herpes outbreaks, she said it could.  I really don't want to take more meds, I have so many chemicals in my body already.  Anyone have any thoughts?

  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited August 2010

    I noticed a couple of posters were looking for and enable to find glutamine powder locally. Look on eBay -- tons of sellers there, some with free shipping.Search "glutamine powder" for a list.

     I'm ready for Round #3 of TC this coming Friday. Round 2 wasn't bad, but I did have quite a bit of fatigue. I'm hoping it's no worse this time.

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited August 2010
    designermom, i wish you could click three times and get us all outa this mess :)
  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited August 2010

    Designer Mom- Sorry about the spot!  I understand your feeling about drugs.  But, I sorta have a flip side philosophy.  They are poisoning me with chemo and I am still upright.  What's another drug in the arsenal. 

    Cheyenna-  Good luck with the tummy trouble.  That is one thing I do not miss now that I have teenagers.  All that crazy explosive illness.  I'm voting for the popcorn.

    TMarina-  Kids are great aren't they?  Good luck with your daughter's move.  Wow empty nest!  Another big change in your life! Best Wishes.

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited August 2010

    Ladies:

    I start Taxol on Thursday - every 2 weeks. No Neulasta shots anymore (I had them duiring AC).  They say side effects are minimal - mostly fatigue, hard to predict how much and for some women have body aches, they think can be handled with Aleve. They down-played the nail thing, but I'm moisturizing them anyway!  I have to take a bunch of steroids tomorrow night - so I made  them give me Xanax so I could sleep. Trying to stay positive. A question I have- do you all have your appetites back?  I feel like there are still lots of foods that I don't want to eat.  Wonder when that feeling goes away?  Anyway--- Hope you all have a good night with minimal SEs. Toni  

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    hi toni!  I'm trying to ask everyone this--hope you don't mind--did your onc give you a reason why he wants you to get the Taxol every 2 weeks instead of weekly? Did he say how the se's are different (between weekly and e/o week)?  I'm doing taxol every 2 weeks x 4 (and I do have to have the shot the next day, as do some others).  I was supposed to do weekly, but because of my neuropathy, the 2 week cycle is better.  Just wondering!  :)  Let us know how the first infusion goes!  Its supposed to be a long one!

    Tina

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2010

    chey-Oh how I would love to click my heels and get us all out of this mess!  I do know "there's no place like home, there's no place like home".  Thank God for our loving families, can't imagine going through this without them.

    I put a call into my primary doctor today as my Onc wants her opinion.  I'm not holding my breath.  Last time it took her a week or so to call back.  As I am not convinced I need treatment for my itchy spot, I am not pushing it.  As this is likely due to my suppressed immune system, I think I'll look into what complementary things might strengthen my system.

  • NorthernGirl
    NorthernGirl Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2010

    TMarina:  I had 3 FEC100 treatments and on Thursday I start the first fof 3 taxotere infusions 3 weeks apart. I wonder why some of us are on weekly, some bi-weekly and I am on 3 week cycles. Actually I start Herceptin on Thursday, Taxol on Friday. They are doing the infusions separately for this cycle to check for adverse reactions. If all goes well, the next infusions will be done together.

    I met with my onc today (it's an 8 hour round trip and my appointment was less than 1/2 hour long...what a long day) .The doc explained that the taxol has quite different side effects than FEC, and there's a strong chance of allergic response. It still causes the low white blood cell count that patients experience on FEC or AC.

    Good luck to you girls who are experiencing infections and rashes and other side effects. This just sucks, but there is an end to all this. We will be dance again.

  • NorthernGirl
    NorthernGirl Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2010

    TMarina:  I had 3 FEC100 treatments and on Thursday I start the first fof 3 taxotere infusions 3 weeks apart. I wonder why some of us are on weekly, some bi-weekly and I am on 3 week cycles. Actually I start Herceptin on Thursday, Taxol on Friday. They are doing the infusions separately for this cycle to check for adverse reactions. If all goes well, the next infusions will be done together.

    I met with my onc today (it's an 8 hour round trip and my appointment was less than 1/2 hour long...what a long day) .The doc explained that the taxol has quite different side effects than FEC, and there's a strong chance of allergic response. It still causes the low white blood cell count that patients experience on FEC or AC.

    Good luck to you girls who are experiencing infections and rashes and other side effects. This just sucks, but there is an end to all this. We will dance again.

  • mimi9186
    mimi9186 Member Posts: 127
    edited August 2010

    Northern Girl, as far as I can tell, the every three week infusions seems to be the Canadian way.  I am glad you finnished the AC.  I refused the third FEC last week because I was too short of breath and my pulse was way too high.  My MUGA showed a 12% decrease.  The onc changed it to 4 rounds of docetaxol istead of three (every three weeks).  Like you it is a 5 hour round trip for me.  Because of all the mess up last week, they arranged a teleconference with my onc for next week.  Nurse said I would have 10 - 15 minutes to talk with him. That is an improvement as I only say him for 5 mins. the first time.  Mostly his student resident did everything. Good luck with the new meds this week, I wish you no S/E.

    Toni, the taxol has fried my taste buds.  It feels like my tongue is sandpaper and I don't enjoy eating anything.  I can still taste chocolate!  I guess it wouldn't hurt to lose a few pounds I put on with the steroids anyway.  Hope this side effect passes quickly.

    Love and hugs to all,  Mimi

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