I am terrified of chemotherapy

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  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Gingersfavorite1...well, they say everyone goes through theses steps differently and I'm happy that your outlook is so bright, that your chemo round went well and you didn't suffer any serious SEs.

    I now try to see that chemo is a positive thing, not a negative. But for at least 8 or 9 days after the infusions I am unable to do much but hang on the sofa due to the"'poorlies", as I call them. The longest lasting Se for me is the wobbly feeling. My head feels like a bobble-head doll looks. I am self employed and driving is part of the job. So that means I can't work unless I risk being pulled over for DUIC...driving under the influence of chemo.

    Last time that feeling subsided about day 14 after the infusion. I'm hoping that I get at least one good week this go around so I can work a bit and go do the errands I need to get done before the next round begins.

    All the best to you...keep up that can-do spirit, It's contagious. 

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2011

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  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Badger, You made my day!  Hilarious!  Thanks for sharing. It's a good way to start the weekend...laugh, laugh, laugh!

    Congratulations on making it through your last chemo. Onward and upward, right?

    Hugs back.  Bon

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2011

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  • Eileen101
    Eileen101 Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2010

    My post-chemo romp climaxed in the evening with me vomiting on my poor husband. despite taking the anti-nausea drugs, I couldn't keep a drop of water in me. I finally got some sleep with the trashcan parked next to me. I seriously thought I might exit this world. Today is a lot better. I'm trying to drink fluids and so far they're staying down.

    Ivorymom, yes I do have thin arms, so I'm guessing that's why my veins are good. Personally, I found the IV didn't bother me, so I'm good for the next 7 chemos. Well, my veins are anyhow. If only my digestive system can keep up. 

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Oh, Eileen...I bet your husband was surprised, too!  Sorry the nausea caught up to you. Try to suck ice chips and popsicles. They saved me many 'episodes' with the trash can. Mine is grey and I named it Travis.

  • Eileen101
    Eileen101 Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2010

    Hah! Bon, I like that you named your trashcan. I won't be naming mine, though. I prefer to think of it as a minor character passing briefly through my story and therefore not worthy to be named. Although a girl can plot, but sometimes a story spins its own way.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2011

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  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    OK, I'll bet you noticed the new photo.

    I thought that Uncle Fester was perfect for my current bald status. On days when I'm feeling green around the gills from chemo, I'll be Shrek.

    I've gotten through a lot of traumatic events with laughter. Why should this be any different?  Bon

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Back to my old pix because I'm feeling more like me today. 

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Am having an allergic reaction to something. Started yesterday. No new meds and already 13 days post chemo so it's got to be something other than that. Big red blotches and 'stripes; all over. Just took benadryl. Will try process of elimination tomorrow.

  • Eileen101
    Eileen101 Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2010

    Bon, it might still be from the chemo. If it doesn't clear up from the Benadryl, call your doc tomorrow just to make sure you're okay. Sending hugs.

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010
    Eileen, you are right. On another forum a gal named Meliss wrote to tell me that she had the same thing two weeks after a treatment. Her onc thought it couldn't be related to the Taxotere and when she had the next infusion they had to stop.  So  I Googled Taxotere side effects and low and behold, here is the section on rash. It says that it will usually occur between treatment. WOW, who would have thunk it?  I honesty wouldn't have associated it with the chemo at all.But below is the text right from the Taxotere insert:

    Rash: This chemotherapy side effect is common, but rarely severe in people taking Taxotere®. You may develop a rash that looks like a blotchy, hive-like reaction. This usually occurs on the hands and feet but also may appear on the arms, face or other areas of the body.

    Generally a rash will appear between treatments and will go away before your next Taxotere® treatment. Inform your doctor or nurse if you experience a rash because he or she may be able to help you get relief.

    I will call my onc in the AM.  And take another benadryl now.  Thanks.  Bon 

  • Lili46
    Lili46 Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2010

    Hi Bon...I finished chemo in Nov.'08...taxotere and cytoxan. I too developed a rash after my second treatment...hives on my back, chest, neck and bald head. My onc didn't think it was related to taxotere but I read of many other women on this site that also developed a rash. My onc wanted me to start on some more steroids...I don't do well on them so I opted out. I took 50 mg. of Benadryl several times that day and the rash was gone by the next day. I had no problems with the next two treatments.                                                                                                                    

    Good luck to you!!!

    Li 

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Lili46, The itch is maddening! Last night I did take two Benadryl, a total of 50mg, and spread on Hydrocortisone cream.  It took until after 2AM for the itch to subside enough for me to fall asleep. I got up at 7 and all but one blotch was gone. Now, just after 7:30, my hands are brick red and the blotches are climbing up my back! Already took another 50mg of Benadryl and will phone onc's office at 8:30 when they open.

    I'm so glad I wrote about this and that someone recognized it was the Taxotere. I never would have put it together. I read the literature but just didn't pay attention to that part. Shows how much I absorbed, right? Unfortunately, when faced with chemo, there are so many SEs to deal with that I just shut down the thinking process and went forward. And what else can you do? I keep telling myself Chemo is my friend. Chemo is my friend. Chemo is my friend.

  • gingersfavorite1
    gingersfavorite1 Member Posts: 273
    edited July 2010

    I survived round 2 of AC yesterday.     They gave me Tylenol beforehand this time,  hoping to ward off the headache I had last time.    Onc told me I could take it every four hours so I did throughout the day.   Took a one hour nap after having some lunch.    Woke up a little woozy and just that  "weird"  feeling I had for a few days after first treatment.    Light headache,  moderate nausea.   Took a Zofran for that and munched on saltines in the evening  (my friend fixed meatloaf but the smell alone nearly gagged me).    Thankfully the zofran and saltines took hold and I could enjoy a brownie before bedtime  Laughing

    Took an Advil PM to continue warding off headache and to help me sleep.    Slept well except for the potty break and feel pretty good this morning - knock on wood!    Took my Emmend and Dexamethazone,  had a piece of toast and am sipping Sprite before my coffee.    So far so good - hope it stays that way!

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010
    Gingersfavorite1...Hooray for you! Glad you made it through round 2 without much hassle.  Hope the SEs stay away.
  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Just an FYI:

    Am on the way to see the onc regarding the rash. He really doesn't believe it's the Taxotere even though the literature from the company says it's a possible side effect and can be severe in 5% of patients. I'm irks me that these oncs are so positive nothing is a chemo problem when even the manufacturer acknowledges it's possible.

  • Eileen101
    Eileen101 Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2010

    Gingersfavorite: So glad to hear your 2nd round went well. I'm also getting A/C and my 2nd round comes up in 1 wk, so I'm right behind you.

    Bon: You know the part about "Chemo is your friend"? Well, my chemo nurse loves to say that and my reaction is, yeah, like a toxic relationship. You can't live with it and you can't live without it. Oh, God, I must keep up my humor.

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    The rash continues but I've got a 12 day pac of Prednisone and started taking that a couple of hours ago. Still have welts and blotches...and the itch is incredible. Doc didn't want to believe it was Taxotere. But he gave in and accepted that's what it must be. I am going to research this further and call the manufacturer if necessary. The literature they give out says it 's common and  severe in5% of the cases. But oncs think if it doesn't happen within two days of the infusion it can't possible be cause by Taxotere. I am not taking this lying down.  If I say I have a problem, I have a problem.  I'm not a crock or a hypochondriac.  I'm an itchy, blotchy chemo patient. 

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    After a full day of prednisone most of the rash has subsided. I only have a few red strips running up my arms and a couple going horizontally across my back. This actually terrifies me. I am concerned that I'll have a terrible reaction to the Taxotere on infusion day. The literature says rash is common and serious in 5% of cases. All you had to do was look at mo on day 3 of the rash to know that this was serious.

    So, after beginning to feel confident that I would make it through the chemo in one piece, I'm feeling pretty shattered by this.

  • gingersfavorite1
    gingersfavorite1 Member Posts: 273
    edited July 2010
    I'm sorry for you difficulties Bon!   I hope and pray it'll be gone without return very soon!

    Eileen,  I hope your round 2 goes well.    I've been feeling "icky"  since mine.    Not horrible but not quite right either.   A bit of nausea,  kind of queazy.    But I tell folks if this is as bad as it gets I can handle it.    Just taking it easy and eating light / bland stuff.    No fun but we'll get through it.   It's ll temporary and worth it   (I keep telling myself).
     
    Hair coming out by the hand full yesterday.   Appointment to have it shaved tomorrow morning.
     
    Hang in there girlfriends! 
  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    I phoned the manufacture of Taxotere, Sanofi-Aventis, in Bridgewater, NJ and spoke to a pharmacist in the medical information department. She is going to email to me trial and product info that is different from the 70 pages the oncs get in their prescribing documentation. And she is sending my 'case' up to the next level for review since this is possibly one of the 5% of rashes considered severe.  

    And although we knew it already, the answer, straight from the manufacturer, was that 'between treatments' does not limit the reaction to 2 or 3 days after the infusion. 13 days is still considered between treatments. They used the language 'between treatments' to cover the wide span of onset of a rash. So there! My onc is going to get an earful.

    Once I read the rest of the stuff she emails me, I'll decide how to approach the onc about the  Taxotere infusion scheduled for next Wednesday.

  • Ondagrow
    Ondagrow Member Posts: 349
    edited July 2010

    I am frightened...i will have chemo in two days...is this real...

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited August 2010

    sohardbnme, Yes, unfortunately we've all wondered if this is just a bad dream and hope to wake up just before the infusion starts. It is scary stuff and you have every reason to be frightened. As you read this forum, you see that I was terrified and still am pretty uneasy about chemotherapy. But I wasn't thrilled with the surgery and won't be crazy about the radiation part, either. None of this is easy and it's all scary as can be.  BUT...you CAN do this, just as I'm doing it and countless women before us have done. Sadly there will be zillions after us, too.

    This is doable and survivable and your fight against cancer is winnable. Please remember that...the goal is to be cancer free. It's not an easy route to get there, but not much in life worth having is just handed to us, right?  Imagine your life ahead, cancer free.  That's the positive image to keep in your mind as you go forward. Please stay positive...be that Little Engine that Could.  "I think I can, I think I can...I know I can."

    I wish I was there to give you a hug and help you move on toward the start and finish...you have to start for it to be over, right?

    Try to rest up. DRINK plenty of water or whatever will keep you hydrated. And I mean HYDRATED.  Do not under estimate the need to drink lots before, during and after the infusions. This last time I drank 2 quarts (64 oz) of liquid a day for 12 days and it helped to keep the side effects down. You have to flush the chemo out of your system. PLEASE drink water.

    And remember my motto, first uttered here by Jayne...You don't have to be brave, you just have to show up.

    Hugs to you...Bon

  • calamtykel
    calamtykel Member Posts: 1,187
    edited July 2010

    sohard - me too.  :(  I see the 2nd onc on tuesday and things will move fast from there, as I'm three and a half weeks out of surgery now.

    It's daunting and scary, isn't it?  Because nobody knows how they're going to react.  I try to look at all the people here who have been through this.  I cringe every time I have to take a tylenol - I hate the thought of having this assaunt on an otherwise very healthy body.  BUT look at the women who did and are now healthy again - exercising and living long lives WITHOUT long term effects from it.

    It's hard to stay positive and melt downs and panic attacks are okay!  Hang in there; you're not alone!

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2011

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  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited August 2010

    Had treatment #3 10 hrs ago and made it through the Taxotare infusion without incident. Do have extra prednisone on hand in case the rash reoccurs.

    Got the usual Decadron by month yesterday, today and tomorrow, along with IV today before the chemo. Weight gain of 5 lbs in 8 days on the prednisone. With the decadron on board, I'll be eating everything that isn't nailed down at least throughout the weekend. Will have to get the doorways widened soon if this keeps up much longer.

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited August 2010

    OK, so now I'm freaked about this new targeted chemotherapy I'm getting a small sampling of. I am on the regimen designed for my tumor type, ER and PR negative and HER2 positive.This chemo should keep that type of cancer from reappearing for at least a while. But I can get a totally different tumor type that is ER and PR positive. It can just sneak up and grab me. UGH!!! This is maddening. All this and still no REAL guarantees of being cancer free.

    I hate cancer. I hate having it. I hate dealing with it. I hate that it's out there and so many people have to suffer through it.  I hate it, hate it, hate it. 

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited August 2010

    The heavy does of steroids to squelch the Taxotere rash, coupled with the Decadron by mouth and IV for my tx two days ago, has prevented me from getting more than 1 hr. of sleep each night for at least the last 5 nights. I'm exhausted and like a caged cat. It's ADHD to the max. Can't tolerate the idea of adding a sleep med to the regimen since every added chemical has it's own series of SEs or magnifies the SEs from something else. This multiple drug routine is madness. What causes what causes what?

    I know this is temporary and that in a few days the steroids will be gone, hopefully the rash won't return, and I'll be on the way to my last tx at the end of the month. This too shall pass, right? I sure hope so. I hate being whiny. I hate being tired. I just plain old hate cancer.

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