TRIPLE NEG PLEASE READ..
Hi, my name is Kargy and I'm from Texas,
I begin my first round of chemo on July 29. I had a left mast. with expander reconstruction on June 14. I am Stage 2B Triple Neg , 19 nodes taken but 2 were positive, others clean.
MRI of right breast is clean, CT of chest, clean and BONE SCAN, clean.
I pray to GOD EVERY DAY that I'm making the right decision on chemo. My family feels they got all the cancer but when the lympnodes are involved You Just Never Know. I don't want any rouge
cells out there. I'm 43 with one son that just turned 11. I'M A TOTAL CHRISTIAN WITH GOD IN MY LIFE. Which makes this all possible to get thought but would love any idea , info or just good will . I love another website so I want to get alot of of diffferent ideas from gals.
Thank you so much! GOD BLESS!
Kargy
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Kargy: So sorry you had to join us here, but you will get much support, answers and understanding here. I too am triple neg, and just want to say, while the chemo was a horror for me (AC & T) - I did get through it all. I had every side effect one could have, but please know I am an exception to the rule. All I can tell you is what my onc told me at my first visit. Triple negative is a nasty sneaky cancer - and even with my "early" diagnose - it has come back on many with the same stats as I have. Since we have no known drugs for triple neg, other than chemo works well on our agressive type cancer, she suggested I hit it as hard as I could as I only have this once shot at killing it. I pray everyday that I have annihilated it - but still the shadow follows me every day and night. My suggestion is to use all the big guns you can. You may suffer very little side effects, but even, like me, you have the nasties - this too shall pass - I promise.
I wish you the very best and a very placid journey. God bless.
Linda
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Welcome Kargy--
Sorry you have to join us. I say throw the kitchen sink at the cancer. From everything I know, chemotherapy works very well for TNs. I had 4 rounds of T/C and did very well. I don't regret it for a minute. Remember, chemo is all we have right now.
Good luck and take care,
Lorrie
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I'm not a very religious person but...I feel that God presents us with the help that we may need...and for tn's chemo is it..
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Thanks Titan
I appreciate your reply and any advice/info would be great!
I am a very big religious person but if I only stood on faith I wouldn't be doing any chemo.
God made doctors for a reason and I believe chemo will give me a longer life span and help keep it away. It's still can come back and that would only be GOD'S WILL.
BLESSINGS!
Kargy
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Lorrie,
I haven't gotten so far to post a pic but your dogs' are sooooo cute!
I myself have a toy Pom named Cocoa and she is so spoiled but I know having my husband my son who just turned 11 and my darling Cocoa makes everything better.
Keep in touch!!! I love any advice and info I can get. I start my first round of chemo on 29th
Appreciate all prayers!
Love, Kargy
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Linda,
Thank you so very much for the info and advice! It sounds like you have a fighting spirit like myself!
I lived in Athens Ga for 6 awesome years and my son was born at Athens Regional and he just turned 11. WE STLL ARE HUGE BULLDOG FANS so anyone from GA is a friend to me.
I have my first round on the 29 and I will let you know how it goes. So many doctors appts.
Living in Texas (where we are from) football is everything. Our first practice is this Wed. so I hope I will be able to handle the heat since chemo will go thru out the season.
I guess I will buy a wig, I cut 6 inches off my blonde hair just to get eased into what will happen and have a cute bob. Have you heard of beau beau's? I think that is a way for me to go?
I don't know we like to eat out alot so I'll probably get a wig.
Thanks for getting back to me!
Love you and don't know you!
Sisters in Christ!
Kargy
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I am not a god fearing woman nor am I religeous at all, however, I do believe that chemo is the one thing you must do-especially if it is in your nodes. I have a very dear friend who had chemo first, Bilateral MX, radiation, over a 2 year period of time and they recommended another round of chemo because the cancer disintegrated in her breast which means that it could travel. She decided not to and now is fighting for her life Stage 4. Give it all you have--chemo is very powerful for TN's and we are lucky it is so responsive to treatment in most cases. I did 6 rounds of T/C prior to my MX with relatively few side effects, and the chemo killed all of it.
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Hi Kargy, I am also a TN .I am 39 years old with 2 teenage daughters. I am a woman of faith also. I am still going through chemo and my journey has not been easy. I did the first 4cycles of AC , wasn't breathing well , my doctor discarded me. Not satisfied found another doctor and by the Grace of GOD she suspected something was wrong , long story short I end up with an open heart surgery in June. On July 8th I started Chemo again, Taxol. Believe it or not I was allergic to the Taxol and cannot take it. So this coming Thursday I will try another drug. I know this disease sucks, but we Christians have to keep in mind that if God brings us to it, he will also bring us through it. So hang in there. I know in my heart that these trials will pass.
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Hi Kargy,
Your faith will be your strength as you go through chemotherapy. For me, my faith was like a muscle that got stronger, as I exercised it alot through this journey. Chemotherapy was a tough road for me, but I would do it again. My oncologists told me that without doing chemo, just surgery, I had a 60% chance of recurrance, with chemo and surgery that bumped it up to only 30% chance. My saying through the journey: I was trusting the doctors do their part, I would do my part and the rest was up to God! I had A/C DD x4 and taxol x1--allergic, switched to Abraxene weekly x 11 weeks, followed with six weeks of radiation. God met me at everystep, He will meet you too....
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Hi Kargy,
I am 42 and diagnosed March 2nd. Doctor recommended a mastectomy and I decided to go for the gusto and have both removed, I don't want to have to go through any of this twice. Surgery was smooth, no lymph nodes involved. My ONC also said hit this hard since we only have the one shot of trying to get rid of it completely. I am having dose dense chemo, 4 rounds of A/C and then 4 rounds of Taxol; one every other week. I started chemo on June 11 so this Friday I will have the last of the AC. So far I have not had any problems. The IV lasts for about 2 hours I feel a little groggy and have even gone to eat afterwards. The following day I go in for a shot that boosts the white blood cell production. This shot is supposed to cause flu like symptoms with aches due to bone marrow being produced, so far I have not experienced that problem.
The worst part for me is knowing I have to go to chemo so a couple days out I get anxious. After I have the shot and for about 3 to 4 days total after the chemo I feel yucky and tired. Nothing extreme, I have gone shopping on those days and the grocery store without a problem but by 2pm I need a nap. I am weaker than normal (can't start the lawnmower). But overall I function well. I go to work except for the day of chemo and the Monday after chemo.
Basically my side effects have just been feeling yucky, kind of like a hangover. You feel like you may be nauseous but not quite. Like if you ate something you might feel better but it doesn't really work because everything tastes bad. I don't have the metallic taste eveyone talks about. No appetite for sweets. Anything with fat or butter in it (cookies, ice cream) makes my mouth feel like someone rubbed a stick of crisco in my mouth.
I'll let you know how Taxol goes when I start that, I'm a little nervous for different side effects. They say it's easier then AC though.
Good luck. You can get through it. It's the waiting and what our minds put us through that is the hardest part. It all sucks but we have to do this now so we don't have to do it again later.
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Hi Kargy,
Throw the bus at this cancer! I had 4 positive lymph nodes and so far no recurrence after 2 1/2 years. Chemo wasn't easy ~ 4 rounds of TAC, then one AC, and then was fired from chemo due to side effects, but am happy to have tolerated 4 rounds of taxotere. The protocol is a little different now, so I am hoping and praying that you will tolerate the chemo with just the usual effects. Radiation therapy had it's own set of side effects, but for me was much more tolerable than chemo.
Accept all the love and support offered to you by friends and family...also only wore my wig about 10 times, used Wal-Mart bandannas the rest....wig was too hot during the summer.
Kathy
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Hi Kargy,
I am 34 year old mother of 3 under 6. I was diagnosed last Aug and ended up with a similar pathology to you. In all of the research I did, it became so clear that chemo is really the only thing we have to seek and destroy this aggressive cancer. The good news: it works so well for TNBC!
I had a double mast and all clear margins. I had 4 DD AC and 4 DD T. It was definitely hard, exhausting, emotionally draining, etc, But all worth it when I looked into the eyes of my 3 children. God is great and has a plan. I just wanted to be able to say, that as well as putting my faith in him, I also did EVERYTHING in my power to make sure I go onto live a VERY long life!
Good luck! You will get through this.
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Thank you Kargy for this Topic! We need POSITIVE and uplifting stories from TN survivors. I am only just beginning my journey. My story is similar to Daniel321 in that I was diagnosed stage 1, TN, no node involvement. I opted for the bilateral mastectomy because with all I had read about TNs, the rate of recurrence is high and I did not want to be doing this again in another year or two. I am healing from my surgery and start chemo on July 30th. My ONC is doing four rounds of AC every other week and then four rounds of TC (Taxol and carboplatin) every three weeks. The ONC said that TN's seem to do well with the platinum drugs and this must be new because I have not seen it in any of the posts. I wonder if there are any TNs out there that are doing the carboplatin chemo after the AC.
Thank you Daniel321 for your informative post. I am terrified of chemo and hearing that it is tolerable helps. It is the unknown that is terrifying. These posts really do ease the anxiety for people just starting out. Thank you all for taking the time to share your stories. God be with you.
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Jolynne,
Welcome, and be sure as you read this:GOD IS IN CONTROL.
If you look at your staging, it's really good. Stage1 with no node involvement...AWESOME!
You caught it quick. I'm stage 2B Triple Neg with 2 nodes positive,.The only thing that stinks is that had to take 19 so I'm having to deal with my left arm issues but nothing that won't heal.
I have my first round on 29 of July, you on the 30th. Be brave and know your mind and spirit have alot to do with side effects! KNOW THAT WHAT IS GOING IN YOU IS HEALING YOU!
I won't tell you I'm not fearful but GOD HAS IN HANDS ALL OVER US... YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT AND YOU CAN GET THOUGH ANYTHING!
I will let you know how I do, do the same for me!
BELIEVE!
LOVE, KARGY
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I too have TN breast cancer. I've had Chemo since April. I've had 7 weekly weeks of Taxol. My left arm, knees and bones/muscle pain is unbearable.. I hope everyone find their own healing journey and ways to find comfort. Let's Beat it together..
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I have TN stage 3 with lymph node involvement. I get my 4th dose of DDAC next Thursday. I am to start Taxol 12 weekly. I am scared of my last AC and even more scared of Taxol. My doctor thinks if I get it once a week for 12 I should be able to work. I am a self employed landscape designer and the AC depleted me. The sun, heat and general feeling of weakness have increased during the AC. I had extreme bone pain with the white blood cell booster shots Nurista or something like it? The oncologist pharmacist suggested a Clariton and a Zantac 1/2 hour prior to shot and I only had one day of sever bone pain. I am so grateful to find this website and have the opportunity to talk with other people that are TN. I havent been able to get any prognosis answers from my doctor. Any input woul be greatly appreciated. Thank-you.
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Ditto to all the good advice offered here.
One addition; you mentioned that you eat out a lot. Methinks you will be enjoying take-out during chemo b/c it is so dangerous to be exposed to other people's germs. so maybe you could have a little collection of take-out menus.
Sometimes it's those little things that make our kids feel the normal pace of family life continues. My younger daughter was 13 at the time, and I recall her setting the table for dinner. (Very precisely; w/o me asking her to do it). No matter where dinner came from. A pizzeria or a neighbor. Usually there were 2-3 nites per chemo where I could not join family for dinner. I had to coach my husband to ask questions b/c I am the chatterbox as is my elder daughter who is and adult and lives on her own. My major focus at the time was that my 13 yr old daugter would get thru it unscathed. I can tell that your 11 yr old son is a big concern of yours; so I thought I'd just offer some advice on that topic.
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Ditto to all the good advice offered here.
One addition; you mentioned that you eat out a lot. Methinks you will be enjoying take-out during chemo b/c it is so dangerous to be exposed to other people's germs. so maybe you could have a little collection of take-out menus.
Sometimes it's those little things that make our kids feel the normal pace of family life continues. My younger daughter was 13 at the time, and I recall her setting the table for dinner. (Very precisely; w/o me asking her to do it). No matter where dinner came from. A pizzeria or a neighbor. Usually there were 2-3 nites per chemo where I could not join family for dinner. I had to coach my husband to ask questions b/c I am the chatterbox as is my elder daughter who is and adult and lives on her own. My major focus at the time was that my 13 yr old daugter would get thru it unscathed. I can tell that your 11 yr old son is a big concern of yours; so I thought I'd just offer some advice on that topic.
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Glad to find a topic on Triple Negative. I had every side effect as well. I had a lumpectomy and 4 nodes were taken-all clean-1.5 cm tumor. I went aggressive, I am on my 4th treatment of Taxotere and Cytoxin-2 more to go. I also carry a gene similar to the breast cancer gene. The fifth treatment is this Thursday. As soon as I can after (last treatment mid-Aug), I am having a mastectomy and reconstruction and also need my ovaries out-higher risk for ovarian than BC if you can believe it. I am 42 with an 8 yr old little guy. It has been hard with the chemo, but am so glad I caught this early. Of course I am very scared of a recurrance. Staying positive though, but the chemo is beating me down!
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Laurajane, I've just finished my 4th AC, and have had my first Taxol. I was just as scared as you and the AC was horrible for me. I have had weekly accupuncture and I think that has helped me. The effects are pretty immediate, though they only last strongly for a couple of days. My doctor at Sloan Kettering was in favor of the accupuncture, and my accupuncturist told me she recently saw that Sloan Kettering is doing a big workshop for accupuncturists focusing on helping with the side effects of chemo.
I did get anemic after my fourth AC, and that really increased the feeling of being a bug on someone's windshield. So far, after my first Taxol, I feel fine. Such a relief.
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What sides effects did you have? What does the acupuncture do for you? How often do you get it. Are you working? I like so many of you start my first dose of AC tomorrow 7/29/2010. I will receive a total of 4 dose every 2 weeks then start on Taxol, 4 dose every 2 weeks. I am very scarred, but of coarse know this is what I have to do. I am strong person in good physical shape, have worked of most of my life, running, cycling, skiing etc. hopes some of this helps. I am an RN in the operating room and was planning on working some during this, my oncologist thinks I'll be able to. I am getting the first dose of AC tom. what should I expect for Friday, Saturday and the weekend?
Thanks so much for you input.
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pamcycle:
I am on the same schedule of chemo you will have, I started on June 11th and was scared out of my mind.
I am typically a strong person, meaning I don't tend to ask people to help much and do everything for myself if possible. My previous post explains how I generally feel after chemo. I had my last AC this past Friday and I felt weaker and dizzier than usual because I had low blood pressure that day (90 over 60) and had to have an extra saline for dehydration.
I'm not sure about working in the operating room because of the brain fog that lingers for the first week. Most people agree that we have some loss of short term memory during this process, lots of "what the heck was I going in this drawer for?"
Good luck to you, you will be just fine. It sucks for all of us but we can do it and will be happy when it's over that we did everything we could to get rid of the bc.
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I thought I would chime in here as I also have been doing acupuncture. I started last July right after my first mx and am still doing it. Not only does it help with the side effects, but it helps tremendously for anxiety and insomnia. I am also getting help with my immune system as well as helping with tightness and pain from my last mx and now the recon process. I am a firm believer that this works. At first I was like anxious about the needles and thought that was silly after everything I had been through!
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Hi gals,
Well, I had my Power Port put in this last Monday. Today I had a echocardiogram for my heart. So it's healthy enough for the T.A.C.
If that comes back fine. Tomorrow will be my first day of chemo. Please wish me luck! Pray for little side effects! As I am praying for all of you!
Sisters in Christ!!!!
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Pamcycle, I've been getting accupuncture weekly since starting chemo. I ask the accupuncturist to focus on whatever my most pressing side effect is on that day, sometimes nausea, or fatigue, or loss of appetite. I had bone pain with my first Neulasta shot, and that week I asked her to focus on the bone pain. Somehow the accupuncture helps.
This is my first adventure into accupuncture, and I've been surprised by it. At a bare minimun it is relaxing, I often fall asleep on the table and I'm not a napper, and the relaxation lasts for a couple of days. It has helped my system work more "normally", and I think has given me some energy. Frankly, nothing much helped after the last AC treatment.
I also exercise, and every day I could I've done Pilates or Spin classes or walked, even if the rest of the day was spent resting. I don't work outside the home, but if I did, I don't think I could have the weeks after my last two AC treatments. (Maybe the second week, but not the week of treatment.)
I've had one Taxol treatment, three days ago, and I've been bopping around almost like normal since then. I get tired in the afternoons but overall its a blessed relief after the AC. I realize the Taxol effects are cumulative, but I'll take the good while it's here.
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mitymuffin: Glad the taxol is treating you easier - I found the same thing, and the SEs really didn't accumulate too much over the 12 weeks - just my finger and toe nails suffered towards the end. I really think exercise helps a lot too. I was part of a clinical study looking at that, and the exercise group did noticeably better than the control group.
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HI Everyone. My name is Carol and I am 53 with no children. I am switching over from the E5103 study discussion group. Unfortunately I was alergic to Taxol and decided to get out of the study since I would only be getting the study drug (or placebo) and no other chemo. Since I have read that chemo is good for us TNs I decided to stay with the chemo alternative. (once they unblinded me I did find that I was getting the study drug so I did get 5 doses). I just had my first Taxotere this last Thursday. I will have it every 3 weeks x 4. Under the study I had 4 AC and 1 Taxol. I have been very lucky. My SEs have been minimal. I work full time and only take of 1/2 day for chemo and then my Dr/medical appointments. One of the worst things for me is taste. None of the things I love the most (Pepsi, chocolate) tastes good. My friends have been wonderful and are very supportive. Family (??). Both of my brothers live out of state and they are boys - they don't understand the seriouseness of this. Unfortuneately my mother passed away last month and that week was very hard on me. My best friend from FL is visiting this week and I have really enjoyed the company. Makes a big difference. Well I guess that catches you up on me. Stick with it - don't let the SEs get to you. Together I hope and pray we all make it through this and can still be talking to each other 10 years from now, espcecially those of you with young ones. If anyone lives in the Chicagoland area, maybe we could start a dinner group like once a month? Any thoughts?
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MBJ! Hello! It is good to see you and congrats on your completing chemo. It sounds like you had a pcr, yay! Your avatar picture looks beautiful....
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Mitymuffin- Thanks for the advise. I am seeking an accupuncturist today. I'm so glad your 1st Taxol went well. I have 4 more days before I start. Last AC whipped me. Feeling good today.
My prayers are with all of you.
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Luah, That is so interesting to hear about the exercise and side effects. I have been hoping that exercise sends helpful messages to the body, and it certainly helps with circulation.
My doctor told me to take Vit. B6 and electrolytes to help with SEs of taxol. I'm taking them, and we will see. I'm also taking L-Glutamine.
So far I've had 3 taxol treatments and I think the further I get past that awful AC the better I feel. So far, one toe hurts, but not badly and only sometimes.
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