Chemo June 2010
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So I made it in to work this morning. So far so good. The dizzyness is not quite as bad today, thank God. Thanks to all of you for the encouraging words, I needed them so much.
I have to take the zofran for 3 days after chemo so yesterday was the last. I also have compazine and lorazapam for nausea as needed. I found that avoiding the compazine was best for me because it gives me the worst heartburn ever. However, the lorazapam makes me very tired so I only take it at night, mostly for anxiety and to help me sleep. It hasn't really helped the past 2 nights because I was up every 30 minutes going to the bathroom due to drinking so much water to stay hydrated. Oh well, maybe tonight I will sleep.
That was my last AC, next I have 4 rounds every two weeks of Taxol, which starts next Friday. I really think the shot is what affects me so badly.
Have a good day.
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Danielle glad you are feeling better. It feels good to have the ac done doesn't it!!! Congrats on that too! Hope you continue to feel well and make it through your work day.
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Good morning, Ladies. Danielle321...Congratulations on making it through AC! It's an accomplishment that all of us can cheer, even if our chemo regimens are different. Being on this side of the aisle is so incredibly humbling. I will never look at anyone dealing with cancer and it's treatments and aftermaths the same way as I did before. Used to be that I 'felt sorry' and then pretty much forgot about it. No more. My heart goes out and my hats off to anyone facing these challenges. AND...you made it to work. Hope your day goes well.
There are some days I can't work at all, others when I'm good for about 4 hours. More than that and I'm a zombie.I have never been one to sleep much. Although I'm known to be in bed pretty early every night, I've never slept past 6ish, even on weekends. And I never was one to nap. Now it's totally different. I can nap anytime and do. And I'm in bed by 10 and sleep straight through until the dogs can't wait any longer and rouse me by 7. And if they didn't bark or nudge me, I'd keep sleeping.
RE, dizziness, my onc nurse said that one of the signs of anemia and low red cell production is a sort of dizziness. So I think that's why I have trouble driving. The dizziness coupled with the motion of the car gives me a bobble-head doll feeling and I really am DUIC...driving under the influence of chemo. She says that will get better when my red counts are back up...someday. The dizziness is either that or the meds for indigestion/reflux. I couldn't take Prilosec because it made me incredible dizzy and Zantac had me shaking like a leaf and almost unable to walk because it messed with my BP. I am highly sensitive to those types of meds and it could be my Protinix and not the anemia that's making me wobbly. Well, I'm staying on the Protonix so I'll have to learn to deal with the 'moving' sidewalks and all the rest of it.
Yesterdays posts had much to do with 'regularity'. When I went to get a script filled, I asked the pharmacist for a recommendation. She suggested a stool softener if I was going to take any of the oxycodone prescribed (which, thankfully, I never did need) and then a daily fiber prep. I got Miralax, which I haven't had to use, and then Metamucil capsules. I've been taking two of those every day and it's seems to help. The probiotic prep I use is DigestiveAdvantage for Irritable Bowel. I take that, too. The combo seems to have everything just right. Aren't you glad you now know my bathroom secrets. The level of personal info we share on this site amazes me...but I'm always grateful to learn from others how to control or deal with every SE that might come along.
And Janny99,,, thanks for the laugh! I can imagine the look on your face when it dawned on you that a urinal and a guy using it meant OOPS!
Hope everyone conquers another day with style! I'm off to meet a client. She is aware fo my diagnosis and treatment so will understand if I'm unable to last the whole day.
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Danielle-->glad you are feeling better!
Janny99--> LOL! I bet you will ALWAYS check the signs very carefully from now on! I know I do after almost going in the wrong bathroom. I got as far as opening the door and seeing the urinals. Thanks for the interesting info about the Herceptin trials.
I think I forgot to mention that with the dd Taxol (every 2weeksx4), I will still have to get the Neulasta shot. Apparently this is a little tougher on the wbc. My onc also mentioned something about my body after being on chemo so long...blah blah blah--so maybe not everyone has to get the shots. They don't bother me much, so I don't mind. Its just another inconvenience.
Have a great day!
Tina
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Wow! I'm so happy for you guys that are nearing or at the end of your tx. That must be such a good feeling. I go for tx #4 tomorrow with 11 more to go! Seems like it will take forever.
I work as a secretary to assistant principal at a secondary school and had not planned to return to work this first semester. Since I was having so much trouble with my SE's, I didn't see how I could. However, I have learned this week that if I do not return at least part-time, my insurance will end at the end of September and I'll have to go on COBRA. So, I will be talking to onc tomorrow to see if he will okay me to work on my good days which right now are "usually" Monday, Tuesday and sometimes Thursday. In a way I'm not sad I will have to return to work sooner because I am going stir crazy here in my house. Because of my SE's I have not been able to get out of my house much. Now that the SE's are better (at least this week they have been), If I could work 4-6 hours on my good days that will keep my insurance in effect (the school pays my premium) and give me a change of pace. It's always something, isn't it?
I looked for you this morning DesignerMom on the Today show. I thought I saw you waving! LOL!
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Sherry-->Try to look at the long road ahead of you as just a short amount of time in your whole life. Its worth it if it means kicking cancer's butt and living to a ripe old age! Last year my chemo for colon cancer was 12 rounds, or 6months. In between I had 5.5 weeks of rads. Start to finish it took me about 9 months due to complications and delays in tx (and that doesn't include major surgery). I tell you this so you can have hope that you too can get through this!! I kept telling myself to look at the "big picture", that really this was a short amount of time. You CAN do this!!
Sorry to hear about the insurance issue. Thankfully ours is through my hubby's employer. I hope work goes ok for you--might feel good to get out for awhile, like you said.
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Morning Ladies, Can we talk about hair loss? On around day 17 after tx #1 my hair was coming out in handfuls. Now i am on Day 16 after tx #2 and my hair just isn't falling out anymore. I used the lint roller this weekend and it actually hurt, like the hair is still firmly attached. Being of the temperament type that I am, my first thought is 'chemo's not working'. I have a thin covering of hair all over my head, I look like a baby bird! Is this normal for the hair to stop coming out? Will the rest fall out or not? If so when?
Cheers, Julia
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Julia--> I am almost bald, but still have a thin covering of hair that is not completely coming out. I have heard that this doesn't mean that chemo isn't working! Try not to worry about it!! (easier said than done, I know) I keep asking my hubby to use his trimmer and trim me as short as it will go (hairs on top are about 2 inches, and I think I look silly). He keeps telling me it looks fine and leave it! Fine with me, he and my dd's are the only ones who see it!
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TMARINA AND DANIELLE321, HERE GOES YOUR VICTORY DANCE FOR FINISHING THAT WICKED OLD AC. I can't wait to do the dance for each of us. I will dance a little longer today as I feel better but have AC#3 tomorrow so back on the roller coaster.
As far as the lightheaded wooziness. I,too have that really bad from day 2-5 with a little less after that but not totally gone. My onc has had me tracking a fasting blood sugar and my BP and pulse daily to see if there is pattern. I am not diabetic but runs in my family big time. My fasting sugars before chemo post surg ran from 70-90 which is what it should be. Since 1st chemo to now they run from 125-180 which is a huge difference. This could be causing this problem. I find when the head starts getting that way if I eat a light snack it does seem to help. I also keep sugar free mints on hand that seem to help if I don't have anything else but must eat soon or all I can do is lay down or lay iin lounger. Any of you with this problem might want to have your sugar checked and maybe track it. If mine gets over 200 my onc says we will have to do something about it.
One bit of humor before I go, YESTERDAY WAS GETTING READY TO GO TO ONC OFFICE AND REALIZED I HAD MY DOUBLE PROSTESTIC BRA ON BACKWARDS. I NEARLY FELL IN THE FLOOR LAUGHING. CAN YOU IMAGINE GOING TO THEIR OFFICE THAT WAY. I BET THAT WOULD GET SOME ATTENTION. I MAY TRY IT AT IV THERAPY SINCE THE LAST TREATMENT THEY ACTED LIKE I DID NOT EXIST. JUST THOUGHT YOU GIRLS MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A GOOD LAUGH. FIRST TIME EVER DOING THAT. ALSO, I AM DRIVING MYSELF SO WARN ANYONE IN CENTRAL SC THAT THERE MAY BE A CRAZY BACKWARDS WEARING BRA LADY ON THE ROAD..WATCH OUT!!!!!!
Hope everyone is having a good SE FREE day. Sending hugs and prayers to all from SC,LOL,gin2ca
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julia,
My hair started coming out in big clumps on Day 14 after my first TC treatment. I'm now on Day 12 after my second treatment, and like you, I look like a baby bird. I'm picking up almost no strays with the lint roller anymore, and I think my remaining hair is actually growing. I still have leg and arm hair, too. Eyebrows and lashes still seem pretty normal.
I have no idea if this is normal or not, just wanted you to know you are not alone.
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hi girls, well im wondering has any of you lost weight, i have, i go up and down from all the fluids? what do you think? thanks, this morning im down 6 lb from last night?
Chey
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wow 6 pounds from last night, that is a lot! I am like a yo yo with weight right now, I too go up and down like crazy. Probably all the fluids we are trying to drink to flush out our systems.
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ll i just weighed again and it said 4 pounds more, where i normally am so maybe it was a fluke but i cked twice, oh well i feel better.... you know i really hate this and want it to be done!!!! i feel for all of us and wish we were together to do it together! could you imagine if we all lived on the same street!! haha what a bunch we would be, let alone the fun we could have, if we could get outa bed.lol
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Wow ladies great to hear from all of you! Gin2ca and TMarina thanks for the laughs.
I am day 6 or 7 post my last AC. I am always a little woozy and blame most of it on the meds. I also get weepy in the evenings. I drink like a fish (water) and can baby myself ( no young kids, no work right now). Sleep is tough for me. Either pain from mastectomy or a hot flash usually wake me up after about 6 hours. Going to sleep again is tough. Like many of you Miralax and fiber are my new best friends but I have to watch once I am off the steriods. Then I have the OTHER problem.
I almost posted a picture of my self with my very, very, very sparse 3 inches of hair all over my head. Couldn't get the site to accept the picture. I look very weird. My hair doesn't want to give up. Nothing is completely hair free on my body.
The only thing I know for sure about my Taxol is I must take 6 steriod pills the night before and again the morning of. The nurses warned me it will be a long infusion day and also mentioned benadryl. I guess if I don't sleep the night before I will sleep in the infusion chair.
I have lost alot of weight since my diagnosis. Over 20 lbs. I am actually at my correct BMI but of course this is not a good way to lose it. When I feel hungry I eat whatever tastes good and will worry about healthy diet later. The metallic taste stays with me longer after each infusion and messes with my appetite. I try to focus on protein and have a "boost" drink during the day. Onc said the metallic mouth should go away with Taxol..
I have been having many pity parties. I am trying to coach myself into the idea that fear and anger and pity are OK. But, whether I have a long time to live ( like I have been promised) or a short time I don't want to be a vicitim, so I am trying to live it one day at a time and be as happy as possible with what I have.
Gonna have a snack and sort some laundry. Be well and be blessed. I too believe in prayer and will pray for anyone who wants me to and apreciate prayers for myself. I can also send out good thoughts for anyone!
Joan
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janny-What made me laugh the most was that you got out of the stall, looked at the guy at the urinal and thought "why is HE in MY bathroom"...not processing that there were urinals there!
sherry- I have a feeling you are going to feel stronger and more able now that you have the meds tuned up. I bet it might feel good to get back to a bit of "normal" at work. I'm sure your boss and colleagues miss you and will be supportive. By the way, you will never see me waving on the TODAY show. That's midtown at a very early hour full of way too enthusiastic tourists. I'll be uptown in my rambling apartment looking at the park and sipping my coffee.
As Isla responded to my Tamoxifen question and made the very good point that we probably should not clog up this thread with all THOSE questions, I am headed for the "to tamoxifen or not to tamoxifen" thread for those discussions. See any of you there if you want to talk about Tamox. I was just on the Dr. Love site (for the first time). It is a great site with very clear explanations of medical matters and studies, including Tamox. Worth taking a look. http://www.dslrf.org/breastcancer/content.asp?CATID=19&L2=1&L3=6&L4=0&PID=&sid=132&cid=646
I have to take my 11 year old to get his meningitis vaccination. Now I am fretting about SE of vaccinations again! What happened to the happy-go-lucky girl who used to ride on motorcycles with no helmet and hitchike alone to California? Yeah, I know, God protects children and fools!
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Wow we have some rebel motorcycle chicks on this board...
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Ok I am doing the happy dance. Last AC TX went off without a hitch this morning. Although I held my breath onc would pull the TX because of the lymphodema he didn't. He was pleased the swelling was decreasing and there was no sign of fever. I am still taking antiobiotics. I am not as tired this afternoon as I was after #3 so hopefully it will be a good week.
As for the weight question, I am going up and down like a yo you. I am thinking some of it is my weaning and waning appetite but also my lack of good food choices. Because my taste has changed so much I am eating stuff that I would normally avoid except in moderation (ice cream as an example). Onc told me as long as my weight didn't change more than 20% my mixture would stay the same.
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Chey,
I have lost weight, about 5-7 pounds. I also experienced a 7 pound weight swing overnight from water retention. I got the impression from my onc. that the body gives up the water more easily at night, not sure if that's due to horizontal sleeping position or what.
Julia
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Meliss,
Read this thread Is Anyone Considering Oophorectomy instead of Tamox?. It talks about tons of side-effects to ovary removal that sound awful and that I would never have thought would be an SE to ovary removal! When I bought it up to my onc. he just said 'there are lots of potential SEs to ovary removal and once it's done we can't undo it'. My view is, I'll try Tamox, if I'm miserable i'll stop taking it (I'm only mildly ER+) and then if I'm truely in menopause from the chemo I'll take that other drug that starts with A.
Julia
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Weight fluctuates alot during the day, so I only weigh myself first thing in the morning--before breakfast. This is your 'true" weight. I usually lose a few pounds during each cycle, then gain most of it back in time for my next tx, as I get my appetite back. Sometimes I keep off a pound or 2, and then I am very happy! I've lost a total of 20 pounds since I started all this with colon cancer last year. Haven't lost much with the bc, but I'm happy for each little bit! The trick will be keeping it all off after tx is done!!
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Hooray grneyd5600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Designer Mom I hope we all find our happy go luck side again.
TMarina I agree the trick is keeping it off.
I applaud everyone's strength and determination in the face of all this!
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TMarina: thanks for the encouraging and supportive comments about the end of treatment. My husband tells me not to keep looking at the end so far away but to just count down each week.
Chey: I've wondered about my weight too. In the past 6 weeks, I've hardly eaten enough to keep a bird alive and only eat enough to keep a bug alive on my sick days - and yet my weight only fluxuates up and down about 2 pounds. I think it's a combination of the steroids, the chemo and its effects. There's no telling how much fluid is being retained in our tissues no matter how much we try to flush it out. I just figure when all the tx's are over, after a couple of weeks, my weight should settle in. I just hope it's not too much loss or gain as I only have one size of clothing in my closet!
And who is calling us motorcycle rebel chicks???? LOL!
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grneyd5600... Congratulations on having the last AC treatment! Yippee! That part is over.
I'm having an allergic reaction to something. Can't figure out what. It started out yesterday with bright red and itchy hands and palms with blotches and 'stripes' running up my arms. It calmed down some and then flared again with stripes and blotches all over..shoulders, back, legs, sides. This morning they weren't immediately itchy and then they went ballistic. I was out working and scratching...nice look for a professional, hey? Tonight they are back full force. The blotches are huge and all over my extremities.
I haven't started using any new drugs and am 13 days post chemo so that can't be it. Thought it might have been the mango I moved around the kitchen yesterday before it started...it's not unusual to develop an allergy to their sap, sad to say. But I made sure not to get near that thing today and it's much, much worse.
I'm not freaked because I can breathe OK and going to the ER or an urgent care center doesn't make sense yet. Just took a benadryl and will try to play detective tomorrow.
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grneyd5600, yay you got thru the hard stuff!!!! im glad its done for you. mine will be friday
Bon, sounds like hives maybe?
Designermom, thank you for the info on tamox.
thank you for all the responses on the weight, i wont worry about it.. i go in tomorrow for blood work, i pray its good so i can get the last one over with!!! my friend told me my being tired and not wanting to get up off the couch is just chemo fatigue, i didnt expect it to be like that, i was weepy the last couple of days as well. feeling sorry for myself i guess,
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Hi BonI am sorry to read about your rash. Just a thought - have you been out in that lovely sun so many of you have mentioned on your posts (and made me jealous as its winter here!)I know a lot of chemo regimes can make you sun sensitive.Sherry - I've been thinking about your work dilemma. Do you think that your assistant principal would let you do flexi-time rather than have to tie yourself into set days. Say you did xx number of hours a week - you could keep a record if the school was worried , but without the pressure of thinking "I must get in by 9am" Or even better take some work or admin home to complete? I do a lot of work in my PJ's at the moment!DesignerMum - I'm going to join you on the 'tamoxifen or not' thread - wasn't it funny how quite a few of us started to think about the next bit of our treatment at the same time.To all the AC and other regime finishers - kai pai ! (which is Maori, the indigenous polynesian of NZ, for well done) I feel with my low white blood count delay I've slithered behind you a bit ..I'm only 1/2 way but hopefully I'll get #3 AC tomorrow.And to everyone heaps of cyber hugs xxx
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I'm on day 12 after 2 rounds of TC, and I look like a baby bird too! I wish the dang stubble would just go away already!!! Plus, it hurts my scalp. I'm so over the hair-thang. Either grow or die already.
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Bon, your reaction sounds similar to the one I had to TC. It also started two weeks out from treatment, and my onc nurse intially said it wasn't the chemo. I went into full-blown hives over most of my body....it was not fun. Had to take full doses of Atarax (stronger than Benadryl) and prednisone to get things calmed down. Then, when I went in for my next treatment, about 5 minutes into the drip I started to have a reaction, feeling light-headed and tight in my chest. Onc said, no more taxotere, you are allergic. I hope you feel better and you are not reacting to the chemo. Load up on the benadryl!
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Meliss...Thanks for the heads up. I keep thinking it can't be chemo related but if it happened to you, then maybe that's it. I've read that taxotere has a really high incidence of allergic reactions. Didn't think it would be delayed like this. I will phone onc in the AM to see if I can get any corroboration from them. I'll be really nervous to have the next tx on August 4th without having this possibility addressed. I've liberally spayed myself with anti-itch stuff and it's not working very well. Took one benadryl and that hasn't helped much either. Will probably take another in about 45 minutes. Some blotches are waning but others cropping up.
Oh, Isla, if only I could be out in the lovely Florida sunshine. I so wanted to float in a pool and read a book but have put that out of my mind for now. Maybe someday next year. Besides, it's way too hot ans sticky here now for it to be enjoyable. Today it was in the mid-90's again with humidity almost as high. My cat still loves to sit on the porch but not me or the dogs. We stay in the air conditioning.
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Meliss, I Googled Taxotere side effects and low and behold, here is the section on rash. You are right! It says that it will usually occur between treatment. WOW, who would have thunk it? Thanks so much for telling me about this. I honesty wouldn't have associated it with the chemo at all. (And here I blamed it on that poor mango!) Below is the text I found on the subject:
Rash: This chemotherapy side effect is common, but rarely severe in people taking Taxotere®. You may develop a rash that looks like a blotchy, hive-like reaction. This usually occurs on the hands and feet but also may appear on the arms, face or other areas of the body.
Generally a rash will appear between treatments and will go away before your next Taxotere® treatment. Inform your doctor or nurse if you experience a rash because he or she may be able to help you get relief.
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Is anyone still getting their period? I got mine today and I am 3 treatments in! I thought iwas suppose to stop? (I am on FEC but changing to Taxotere on Friday). I am also young and no where near menopause so hopefully it will stay.
Cheyenne: My weight also fluctuated but just by 5 lbs at most. I like the mornings that I wake up and it is down!
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