Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?
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It has been a while since I was on here, and it is amazing what everyone is accomplishing these days! I ditched the wig about two weeks ago--here in Ohio it was in the 90's and I just couldn't take it anymore. My hair is about 1" and dark (I used to have a medium brown) with quite a bit of gray. I work at a Catholic church and was so worried that I would offend someone, but our priest from Poland told me that I looked like "a chic French girl" and it made my day! Everyone seems to have gotten used to the look and my kids don't even care that I go out in public "au natural."
I am looking into the compression sleeves for flying too--we are heading to Disney in August and I don't want to be miserable while there.
I also had my "glad chemo is done" party with my friends this past weekend. We ate and drank and laughed and it was so wonderful. I was glad that I celebrated this victory and we made plans to do the Making Strides for Breast Cancer Walk in October.
Prayers and hugs to all of you who are still enduring treatment and testing.
Renee
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Just-Sher - you are still on Herceptin right? One of the side effect of Herceptin is headache. There is actually a thread about that. I had them for about 3 weeks straight during one of the cycles. Tylenol took care of them. If I remember correctly, it has to do with how much Herceptin is in the body and the cycles that we get it, either every 3 weeks or weekly. And the half life figures in there somehow as well. I am sure the results of the MRI will be fine!
wren22- do you have the swell? Or are the sleeves as a preventative? It seems odd that I had to call and ask to get them. But after reading some of the threads on the lymphedema section, I am glad that I did. Have fun at Disney - it is one of my favorite places to go!
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Sher - glad things are better at home and will be keeping you in my prayers for clear MRI results.
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I got my compression sleeves today. Lymphedema preventative. It was actually very easy to get them, and insurance will pay for them. Now I am all set for my Las Vegas gambling adventure in September - Yea!!!
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Happy Birthday to all the July birthday girls. Celebrate and enjoy.
I have been wigless for more than a month. It got to hot to stand a covering. My hair is coming in salt and pepper and as curly as orphan annie. It is not my favorite but once you have no hair some curly, gray hair is not so bad. Some people don't recognize me, but strangers have complimented me on my hair so it can be that bad. I think if I color it I may be happier.
I have this weird thing with my nails going on. The top third of my nail is white and there seems to be a layer of dead skin under the nail trying to get loose. I am keeping my nails short and there seems to be good nail under so maybe it will go away.
It is good to hear that I am not the only one struggling with the "new" normal. I am quickly being caught up in the life of pre-diagnosis but often think that I should be doing something different. Maybe it has nothing to do with bc but like many I will turn 50 early next year and it may have to do with that milestone.
Glad that so many are on the road to wellness. Stay cool in this heat.
Barbara
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bbd: I've had the same thing with my fingernails since about the 2nd taxotere treatment. Top half whitish bottom red with small white horizontal lines in some of them. The onc nurse told me it was from the taxotere and they would grow out. Some lose their nails as the sides curl up and they lift off as the red area darkens. There is a new nail underneath. She recommended tea tree oil which I faithfully brushed on and used until chemo was done. Mine didn't get any worse, stayed the same, were sore sometimes, didn't lift off, but they are grown out about 1/2 way now. I am 6 weeks post chemo. I keep them short and clean also. Good luck. I guess we're going to get all new bodies, huh? But I liked my old one well enough!!!
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stlcardsfan
Thanks for posting information about the headache being a side effect of herceptin. I have been experiencing terrible headaches lately and in the back of my mind Ive been thinking oh no brain tumor.
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BBD: My fingernails are doing the exact same thing. I am almost 3 months out from my last chemo and as my nails grow out they look like they are really dirty. When I cut them, they seem to have this layer of something underneath. There is a clear distinction in my fingernail beds where I stopped having chemo. The nail at the top is spotted white and has discoloration under it. I guess they whole nail will have to grow out before it totally looks normal. I have just been cutting them really short as often as I can. I used the tea tree oil to try to salvage my nails when they were starting to hurt and look bad from the Taxol. It seemed to do the trick then, but I guess the damage had already been done.
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bbd & georgiabirdgirl: However, I think the tea tree oil did keep a fungus away and maybe saved my nails from turning black and lifting off. Thankful for the smelly tea tree oil! My DH made me go to the deck to use it.
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georgiabird--those fills caused me a lot of grief! I had to take valiu, and barbitutates n the first day to getthrough them I will say though, that one-month post-op after my exchage surgery, it's way more comfortable. I do get a little cramping now and then, but far les than when I had TEs in. Hang in there!
Terrijo--sorry you're having such a bad reaction to the Tamox--I have to make a decision about it next month. That's just what I don't need! I agree w/ Georgiabird--try acupuncture.
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Hi all,
Had my first fill this week. Wasn't to bad. Also got the ok to start exercises to get my arm and shoulder movement back.
Herceptin #10 out of 18 done this week as well.
On we go!
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Hi All! Hope everyone is well. I saw on anotheer thread that Youngmomof3 is facing more chemo, as well as rads, and this after she just had her bmx 2 weeks ago. Prayers for her. I'vebeen back to work 2 weeks. My school year starts on Tuesday. It's been tiring, but do-able. My secretary goes in for round 2 of AC next week.
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HI Everyone,
Friday was radiation hump day for me - #17 out of 33. It's been okay - just a bit of redness around the nipple area and itchy on top of my shoulder where the bra strap is iritating.
When my 19 lymph nodes were removed (at the lumpectomy surgery in Dec) because 6 were cancer, the doc told me that most likely the lymph nodes wouldn't have any more cancer in them since they usually travel in a line down the system (hence, more lymph nodes removed beyond the cancerous ones). But, some could still be cancerous (it's rare, I'm told)... I know that's why the radiation for me includes from the top of my shoulder to under my right boob, my underarm and top of arm. This is in case the chemo didn't get everything. The radiation machine that rotates around your body is getting me at 10 o'clock, 12 noon, 4oclock (the side) and 6 oclock positions (my back) . I'm hoping those lymph node suckers that still might have some cancer in them get sizzled!
I had a follow up visit with my oncologist this past week - I'll be taking daily Femara after radiation is done, not Tamoxifen. Femara is targeted to post-menapausal women like me, I'm told, and does a better job for those ER+PR+ BC women whose ovaries have stopped producing Estrogen. She ordered a new dexascan (bone density) because Femara can cause Osteoporosis (wonderful) and joint arthritis (like my knees don't hurt enough).
I am now imagining myself as a shorter, creakier, white haired old lady....at 57.
The better news: I had a lymphodema evaluation this week and, thank goodness, don't have that at this point. I have to buy a compression sleeve as well since we're going to Florida in September - did anyone buy theirs online? And, I went for a 6 month follow up at the dentist who told me my gums look wonderful - chemotherapy usually clears up any gum problems and most of his post-chemo patients look good as a result. Now, that's a wierd positive side effect. And, my onc gave me the script to go have my port out - YEA! I go see the surgeon on Wednesday. I'm hoping he'll schedule it for Friday.
My black nails are growing out as well. I'm glad you guys posted that they are black underneath because I've been embarrased that my nails look so darn dirty underneath and trying to clean them out. My toe nails don't seem to be growing out as quickly, however, with the big toe nail still looking like something was dropped on it. My toes neuropathy has reduced a bit but is still there - I'm thinking the Taxol permanently injured my nerves in the toes. I've been wearing sandals all summer, which helps. I'm worried about the winter and closed in shoes.
Happy birthday to our July friends - I'm going to enjoy my birthday in October. I'm glad I'll be turning 58! Have great vacations for those of you going away. We're going to a friend's second home in Florida and planning on doing nothing! Just sleeping late, eating out and being with each other. I'm hoping for good weather (and not any hurricanes).
Hugs all!
Pat
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mslrg: thanks for updating everyone re:my onc recommending additional chemo. I could certainly use the prayers as I face another 4 rounds. Yes everyone after having surgery and after all seems to look good(clean margins, no node involvement, and no cells is nipple or skin) my onc still wants to be aggressive and feels that since i was left with a 5cm tumor that had some cancer cells in it even after 6 rounds of TCH that he wants to do everything he can to make sure there aren't any cells left. he said based on my age, that I have young kids,that my cancer is aggressive(HER2 & Grade 3) that he needs to be ultra-aggressive. He left the decision up to me & DH. Definitely not the words I had hoped to hear from him last week but I am slowly coming around to the idea b/c I need to fight this cancer with everything I have. I will still need 25 rads as well afterwards and will start Herceptin back up after AC.
For those of you who had AC, can you tell me some things that I could expect? I am not happy about feeling like crap again, losing my hair, or havin my kids see me sick again esp after we told them that after first chemo & surgery were done that I should be all better. Just what I need to do to completely worry them all over again. I am definitely seeing how all of this is taking its toll on the boys esp my 8 yr old who just has this sad look in his eyes as he watches me recover from my surgery.
Hope you are all doing well and trying to stay in the AC and out of this awful heat.
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youngmomof3: So sorry to hear that you require more chemo. I had chemo, then mastectomy...my tumour was 6cm, 0/5 nodes. I asked my onc about further chemo - he said it would give me no advantages. I would have done more chemo if he'd recommended it, but he only suggested rads. I know you must be disappointed. Our kids are tougher than we think they are. You will all get through it this time, just as you did the last. However, I hope the A/C will be easier on you. Everyone here will be praying and wishing you a better journey.
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Pagowens - I went in to get measured for my compression sleeves. That way they can ensure a proper fit. I am going in again this week to get the gauntlets to go with the sleeves. I don't have lymphedema so the sleeves and gauntlets are for when I fly, and for prevent mode. There is a medical supply store near my house that the cancer center refers people to. They have everything it seems. Hope that helps.
youngmomof3: sorry to hear that you are facing more chemo. Sending positive vibes your way!!!
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Hi Youngmomof3,
I did the AC dose dense (every 2 weeks) for 4 cycles. I'm sorry you are going to have to go thru this chemo. It's the heavy duty stuff. To be honest, it was very difficult physically for me. AC kicked my butt. I don't know how it will be for you - you're younger than me, have a different stage and have had a different treatment to date. But, with three kids to take care of....I'd advise you to get some help from family and friends. I'll be praying for you and thinking of you. Hugs! (My hair fell out after the second dose - around day 17-18 of start of AC treatment.)
Stlscardsfan - thanks for the advice. The PT gave me a list of nearby providers - but, she also mentioned the sleeves are cheaper on line. My insurance should pay so I'[ll go get fitted. Why are you wearing the gauntlet? Did the sleeve make your hand swell? I'm also doing this for prevention when flying. Radiation increases the risk for lymphodema. I've had enough side effects and would love not to have this one!
Ciao!
Pat -
youngmomof3- I'm so sorry that you've got to take more "bad medicine" as my kids call it. AC stinks, but I agree with your onc- you may as well fight it with everything that can work to eradicate cancer from your body. You've given up much of this year to fighting cancer, go ahead and give it all you've got so that you don't ever have to revisit this battle.
My hair fell out starting at day 16 and the biggest issues I had were SEVERE fatigue, red eyes, and a runny nose. There were lots of other strange and transient side effects, but nothing that lasted too long. I say SEVERE fatigue, because it really was unlike anything I had experienced before. If you've been laid out with the flu, that's similar to how I felt. Luckily, that was only one day for each infusion. There were slow days leading up to "Mack Truck Day" and then slow days afterwards, but one day a week I stayed in bed pretty much all day. For me that was usually day 6 or 7 after infusion. I'd definitely recommend some help with the kiddos for part of the time. I was amped up on steroids for a few days after the infusion and didn't need any help, but then had a mighty crash when the steroids wore off. Also, you will likely get a shot of neupogen or neulasta and that shot can cause bone pain. Taking a regular claritin two days before the infusion and then for two days after will help relieve that pain.
I know what you mean about the kids. For the past two weeks in church they have read out the children's prayers to the congregation. My son keeps praying that I'll get my hair all the way back. Both of my kids equate my health with my hair. After my last fill procedure, I was pretty sore. My daughter asked me to pick her up and carry her to bed and I told her I couldn't because my chest was sore. She insisted, "but you have hair now!" She also spied an empty prescription bottle on the counter and shrieked with excitement, "I knew you were better, because all the medicine is gone!" Your kids will endure and learn valuable lessons about love, strength, courage, and faith while your family goes through this. Take care of yourself and it will be over before you know it!.
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Youngmom-so so sorry to hear that you may need more chemo. In January I started out with 4 doses of A/C before moving to T/H. To be honest, A/C can be rougher than T/H. For me the fatigue, nausea and general being out of it was a little bit more intense than with the T/H. I got A/C on Thursday and was pretty out of it on Saturday and Sunday. Friday was a good day because of the steroid high. Monday I would start feeling good enough to go back to work. You are a tough cookie so I expect you to breeze thru it.
I have my lumpectomy and complete lymph node dissection this Thursday. Originally I was scheduled for a BMX but since the chemo did its job so well, my BS convinced me that a lumpectomy was the way to go. This is of course all dependent on clear margins.
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pagowens - the info that I was given at time of compression sleeve fitting advised that a gauntlet should be worn with the compression sleeve as preventative. The stepup-speakout forum mentions this as does the National Lymphedema Network. I also reached out to one of the ladies who posts quite frequently on the lymphedema thread about this as well. If I remember correctly, she wore a sleeve only on a flight, and during the flight her hand swelled and became very painful. Personally, that would ruin my vacation, so, taking her advice, I am going in to get fitted for gauntlets this week.
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Youngmomof3 - sorry to hear about more chemo. Yuck!
My dad had a stroke on Saturday, July 17, in Minnesota. My husband and I flew here on July 19. They weren't sure if he was going to make it. He still has a lot of brain swelling, but it seems to have finally peaked. Now, he is looking at rehab. It was a severe stroke and his left side is paralyzed. The doctors are amazed that he is talking and that his memory is in tact. I had to cancel my herceptin treatment, but will have it on August 4th after we return to Okinawa. Still on schedule for our move to Ohio on September 3.
nkrun-praying for your surgery on Thursday.
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Thanks Stcardsfan = I went and got measured for the sleeve and the gauntlet and then tonight made the airplane reservations for a Sept trip to Florida. They didn't have my size but it should be in by Monday so I'll go pick up both. The PT told me just the sleeve but my feet tend to swell on a plane anyway, so I'm worried about my hand -- makes sense to be more cautious.
Grace, I'm so sorry about your dad, i'll keep him in my prayers too. Geez, my prayer list seems to get longer and longer - lots of traumatic stuff going on.
Nkrun - I hope the surgery went well today and you're already on the road to recovery.
Tomorrow my 4-year old grandson and I are going to Sesame Place. I do radiation at 7:50 and then off to Pennsylvania (about 2 hour trip). I'm being brave doing this myself. I have a T-shirt to go over my bathingsuit, #50 SPF spray, a hat, and dinner reservations with Big Bird and his friends. I'm not going to do the old Pat stuff -- get from one place to the other as quickly as possible to make sure we hit everything (i.e. get my money's worth). THe new Pat will take it easy and enjoy everything. And, if we don't get to everything...oh well! I'm hoping we both can make it to the 9 PM fireworks and then the 2 hour drive home - but if we poop out earlier, we're ditching the fireworks. I know it'll take the weekend to recover but I'm been feeling like this poor little fella hasn't had much of a summer being stuck with me. So, it's going to be a beautiful day and after I post this, I'm headed for bed.
Hugs all!
Pat
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Wow, Ladies, lots of catching up! Young mom of 3--I've been thinking about you and wish you the best on this journey. My secretary just had her second round of A/C yesterday. SHe seemed to do Ok after the first round--just a few days of fatigue, but I think it's going to kick her butt this time around.
Grace--so sorry to hear about your dad's stroke. This must be terribly stressful for you.
Pagowens, hang in there with the rads--you're doing it!!!
I have been back to work 3 full weeks now. It's exhausting, but I'm managing. The school year began on Tuesday because we're on a modified traditional schedule. I took yesterday off to go for my last appointment with the department of homeland security, where I was approved to becoe a US citizen. My swearing in ceremony s on AUgust 11th. On Monday, I'm seeing my onc and will have to make the Tamoxifen decision. Still not decided.
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Looking for some insight to the hair situation. I am well past 8 weeks since my last chemo infusion and I still have only a little stubble over the head. Had MX 4 weeks ago. A very few white hairs, maybe 10, about a quarter inch long. Is this what you have experienced? I'm getting very impatient. My onc said 6-8 weeks before it starts in and I getting past that. Anyone have any advice?
Wishing better days for all.
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Hey Bubbalu,
My last infusion was April 28, so that's 14 weeks ago (WOW! ). Here's what my hair looks like now. I think I was able to go safely without a hat or head covering for the past 3-4 weeks. Lately, I get complimented on my cute haircut. I say, "you mean my hairgrow?!" I have been taking biotin everyday since my chemo cleared (12 weeks ago), along with my other supplements. It is supposed to help your hair grow. My hair grew in straight and dark, which is what it looked like before it fell out. I have no idea if the biotin helped or not, but I thought it was worth a shot.
Mine started out very fuzzy and baby fine. It was sparse and funny looking for awhile. It would develope bumps all over, which I sook learned were hairs trying to bust through. I loofahed my head and body every time the bumps appeared, and suddenly new hair would be there. It got to the point that I couldn't wait to shower, so I could have new hair when I got out.
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Georgiabirdgirl: I LOVE your hair. If I had that I would go without a headcover for sure. Why did you start the biotin and did the onc approve and do you think it helped? What the heck is it? You look great!
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Hi Bubbalu,
I can never figure out how to insert a picture, so I changed my avatar with today's photo - taken with my phone so you can see my hair length. My hair started out fuzzy white stuff, then looked like a Dalmatian with white/dark spots all over my head, then finally started growing in to what it looks like today. I've also started getting comments re love the cut! I just say thanks (and laugh). It started coming in around the 9th to 10th treatment of Taxol (around mid-May).
I started Biotin capsules and my vitamins (one a day, B12, D) one week after last chemo - so around June 8th. I didn't have this much silver before, just a couple strands...oh well! I'm not dying because of the time, expense, energy needed. And, I'm a little worried about the chemicals now. My attitude re the Biotin is...what the heck! Might work. My hair is shinier than before.
It will come back - I know how impatient we can get! Glad you're doing okay.
Pat
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I had my DH take a picture of my head as well. If I could just figure out how to add it I will.
14 weeks PFC, and about 1/2 to 3/4 " long. Starting to notice a wave as well. No more wig wearing, but I am wearing ball caps to work. Most people say I don't need to, but I am just not there yet.
Maybe in another month.
I also was on Biotin, but stopped it about 2 weeks ago. It was causing my leg hair to grow really fast, as well as the unwanted chin hair! I also have the unwelcome fuzz on my face, have already shaved that once.
It seems in the past two weeks it has really started to thicken up.
Bubbalu - if you are 8 weeks past, that is really only about 5 weeks of hair growth. You figure the first 3 weeks not much would happen due to the chemo still being in your body. I know for me, it was about 8 weeks before I noticed the 5 o'clock shadow. Definitely try the Biotin, after checking with DR of course. All mine said go ahead. Good Luck!
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Thanks Bubbalu. I'm pretty happy with my hair these days too. It's amazing how much having hair matters after you haven't had it for so long. A year ago, I would have cried if someone told me I had to cut my hair this short. Today, I feel like I'm rocking a trendy pixie cut!
Pagowens- I love your hair. I'm with you on the dying. There are all natural dyes that are supposed to be ok, but I think with all the changes I've already made, this is probably one I'll be able to live with. We'll see. So far, I've avoided all the grey coming in. If that changes, I may change my tune.
Biotin is one of the B-complex vitamins and it helps with a lot of your metabolic processes as well as hair growth. I take a 1000mcg everyday but I will probably stop taking it altogether next month. It makes my leg and chin hairs grow rapidly too, but that was an easy trade-off to get my eyebrows back. My doc was fine with me taking that, a multivitamin, COQ10, and an Omega (along with my daily Tamox- of course). I just have to be careful that the vitamins don't have soy filler in them, which A LOT of them have.
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Stlcardsfan: That's a good point about the chemo still being in my system. I guess it's then only 5 weeks of hair growth. Now I can look forward to it coming in the next few weeks.
I'm 4 weeks past surgery (LMX) and still have some swelling under the arm from the dissection. Is this normal? I don't sleep elevated anymore, did the recliner for a week, then went back to the bed. Maybe sleeping on a wedge would help with the swelling? Hurts most in the morning, that board in the chest feeling and the stiff arm. I have to keep reminding myself to sit up straight, I naturally want to slump my chest to protect it I guess.
Going to the lymphedema specialist today for a baseline and to get some tips on preventing it.
I really don't think I would have gotten this far without this group of friends, you are appreciated.
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