Chemo June 2010
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Grrr
last week was everyone's emotional down week, now this week seems to be the treatment delay / hiccup week - never rains but it pours!
Lizzyanne - please don't worry about your AC now being a 3 week gap. You and I are on the same regime and mine is always a 3 week cycle; although my delay has made this one a 4 week gap. Anyone had a 4 week AC cycle? I'm worried about the treatment missing some of the little blighters dividing away.
I can understand delays due to poor blood counts, or poor mimi's gut infection but DesignerMum you are right to be fuming. Delays and alterations due to stupid admin. reasons are totally unexceptable - go girl and put them straight!
Happy Birthday Tina, I have just celebrated with a piece of banana cake - thanks for giving me an excuse !!
Everyone have a minimal SE, maximum energy , minimum nausea , maximum happiness weekend and let's get those blood counts up!
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Toni - thanks for the tips. I have found that I haven't been able to drink much water, with or without additives. Don't know why but it makes my sickness worse. Hadn't thought about the red meat but that "sounds" good. I am not able to work taking Taxol because of my extreme nausea - but you may not have that problem. My two good days a week, I am pretty exhausted. But you may breeze right through it. Personally, I would think it would be a breeze compared to the AC treatment. I haven't really taken much Ativan - still have my original prescription from 2 months ago. But I sometimes have trouble sleeping so I will try your recommendation. Thanks.
DesignerMom - I am SO SORRY you have to have the additional stress of dealing with your insurance company. But don't back down! Give them "you know what." (never been much good at cussing LOL).
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Thanks ladies for the "song", "cake" and birthday wishes!
Sherry-->I really hope you feel better this round, now that you have all the meds worked out.
D-mom-->Duluth is one of our favorite places. We go at least once a year. Its about a 2 hour drive. My hubby and I went there for our honeymoon (almost 26 years ago!), and my oldest dd was married at Enger Tower Park over looking Lake Superior. Oh--my middle dd got engaged at that same park, so you can see I've passed my love for Duluth on to my girls!! I've already told the kids we are going all together next year for my birthday! I can't wait!!
I hope you get everything worked out! I think we're all angry right along with you!!
Julia--> I'm glad you changed places! I hope you get treated much better there!
grneyd-->We drove through Sturgis once, and my dh got a t-shirt--but that's as close as I'd like to come to the bike rally lol! But I hope you make it there!
rs711-->only 29? Jeez. Cancer really sucks! You are only 3.5 years older than my oldest dd. All my girls are supposed to start colon cancer and breast cancer screening at the age of 34 (10 years younger than my age when I was dx with colon cancer). You can bet they're real happy with their momma! ;P
ummm, I think that's everything!
Have a good night everyone!! Hope we all can sleep
love,
Tina
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TMarina: Just realized you have had a recent birthday! HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY with hugs!
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Sherry - I really hope your onco's plan works for you and you don't have nausea. I'm glad he wrote it down, too. My chemo brain would not remember that.
I am feeling a lot better today. No feelings of nausea today!
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I like Duluth! When I was younger, and fitter, I ran Grandma's Marathon, back in like 1991 I think. We've always thought it would be a cool place to live, well in the summer anyway :-) So today I feel good, I don't have to work or see a doctor, and my dear parents are here. Looks like being a good day! I wish the same to all of you.
Julia
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Janny99: Regarding:<<I really didn't feel well, and when I asked her to get me a prescription for something stronger than immodium for my liquid stools (which the NP told me to ask if I needed it), the nurse told me I didn't need it and to keep trying the immodium!!! >> Hopefully by this time your diarrhea is under control. I too start have horrendous diarrhea about the 3 day after tx. I take 2 TO 3 IMODIUM at a time (and this only slows it down!). One thing that I found that works really well is over-the-counter acidophillus under the name of Flora-Stor - it is expensive $21.00 a box, but that really helps restore the good bacteria balance in my system. Hope this helps!
Well, yesterday was my 3rd tx and went very well. But again, waiting on SE to begin tomorrow. BIG SIGH! Trying to be proactive and taking my Diflucon prior to the diarrhea and the Flora Stor. Maybe I can head them off. The good news is that my white blood count went UP from last time (from 22.0 to 19.0). Only ONE more tx to go! August 11th. Then the dreaded radiation treatments! YUCH!
My nails are getting funky though. Looked at them the other day (I don't wear nail polish) and instead of nice white little half moons on the cuticle bed, I have a pink/rose half moon, then a white half moon, and another pink/rose half moon starting. I'm assuming the first one is from my first tx, the white part is when I'm healing and the second pink/rose half moon is from the 2nd tx. Guess I'm going to have to start wearing nail polish! I'm so terrible at putting this stuff on. All over my fingers. I know I should go get a pedi/manicure, but with all the hospital bills coming in, I really can't afford any luxuries.
And for anyone having Chemo breakouts, the absolutely BEST thing I have found is "witch hazel" (make sure it is witch hazel and NOT alcohol!). Cleared my acne up quickly and I also use it on my almost completely bald head now twice a day. Very cooling and soothing. Even took care of the little sores on my head too.
Another person (very early on in this thread) mentioned runny nose due to no hair! ME TOO! When I go to the bathroom at work, I have to wonder if the person sitting a stall down from me wonders if I'm doing so sort of illicit drug cause I'm always sniffling! Ha, ha!
Well, I hope everyong has a great SE free weekend. Keep your chin up, keep in touch and remember, WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER!
Love to all!
Deb
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Hey ladies, I'm not a couch zombie yet and am very excited by this development. After listening to everyone's struggles with insurance and feeling ill and trying to get good care I'm thinking we need a t shirt or a button that says something like. I'M ON CHEMO AND I WILL NOT TAKE YOUR EXCUSES, or DON'T P*SS OFF A CHICK WITH BREAST CANCER, or I'M FIGHTING FOR MY LIFE AND I WILL NOT YOU GET IN MY WAY.
My own story is that my care has been great and my insurance has been refusing to pay my bills. My broker sent a letter of protest to the State Insurance Fund. I sent off thirty eight reponses to requests for the exact same pre-exsisting condition questionairre to the insurance company recently. A couple of bills are coming back as paid but always with some reason as to why they are not fully paid. A local breast cancer group said that 86% of all challenged bills get extra payment. Like all of you this is the last thing I want to deal with. But, I to lose my victim mentality.
OK I'm guessing I am on a steroid high and that is why I am preaching and making up slogans. Best wishes to all of you in your struggles for good health and good care!
PS I am 49
Joan
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OOPs a few words missing I WILL NOT LET YOU GET IN MY WAY and But I NEED to lose my victim mentality.
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Joan, Any of your tee-shirts would be instant best sellers.
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Tina, Happy belated birthday!!!! It is good to have another one.
Designermom, you go girl-Get those Admin and insurance guys good. Show those bulldog teeth and don't back down. Take prisoners not excuses!!!
grnedy560, I live about 90 minutes from Myrtle Beach and have been down just recently for The Cirque deSoleil at the Palace. Was very good so recommend if you get to go again. Hope you enjoy Sturgis and feel well.
Julia, congrats on changing tx locations. Things can be totally different somewhere else. I know because my 1st chemo tx went okay but 2nd was the day from hell. I spent 9 hrs there and closed the place down. I had three different nurses work on me and none of them until the last one seemed to be very competent and I did not get her help until I had been there 7.5 hrs and was thinking of walking out and heading to administration to have them find out what was going on. My husband and I were treated as though we had the plague or maybe 3 heads. What is so bad is I work at this hospital and they profess excellence in their care over and over. I have been nothing but cooperative and nice with each visit but I will not go through another tx like that. I won't tell the whole story because it is too long and pretty unbelieveable(even to me and I was there). Suffice it to say you do have to speak up for yourself.
Joan, I can believe you are having insurance issues. Do they require pre-cert or are they one of those that tries anything and everything not to pay. Hope you get this mess straightened out. I have been fortunate with that aspect because most of my surg and tx and even office visits have been in network so I will probably only pay a small percentage out of pocket. Also, love the Tshirt idea and will add "Finding Chemo, The Gift That Just Keeps On Giving.
Now,on to myself a little-went to see ONC yesterday avout swelling around shoulder and axilla on chemo IV side and sore throat and stopped up head. My counts were very low and he was concerned I was getting upper respiratory infection so I am now adding antibiotics to mix of other pills, but I do feel much better today. He thought edema was still from post surg changes but we will watch closely and check with ultrasound if does not improve or gets worse.
Thankful today to be feeling better because have family reunion tomorrow with relatives from out of town. Guess I will wear a mask and cap over almost no hair. I am sure they will all be shocked to see me this way because they have not been around since my dx. Oh well, at least I should be good for a laugh or two in the family pictures. Hugs all around and thanks for being there-Sending prayers and good thoughts out for all of us on this journey. LOL,gin2ca
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happy birthday Tina!!
I'm really struggling with my 4th AC - it's day 5 after, and I can hardly move and am having trouble drinking enough.I also had surgery yesterday which probably doesn't help - my port had twisted around so yesterday I had to go to hospital and they had to open me up again and fix it :-( Hope i'll be back to my usual self in a couple of days... I need to be - it's my 40th birthday on Monday!!
sorry for everyone having insurance problems - one of the downsides of living in the USA I guess.
Tina (and anyone else with daughters...) - maybe think about getting your daughters checked earlier than 10 yrs before your diagnosis - my mum was diagnosed with BC at age 54 and died a few months later - i was supposed to start screening at age 44 (10 yrs before her age of dx), but didn't get there - I was dx with bc pre-screening at age 39 :-(
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Okay ladies. I guess God hears prayers (or has mercy on stupid administrators). I went to treatment #3 today, "loaded for bear". Everything went perfectly! There were no delays, no nonsense, nothing to criticize As usual the nurses were terrific. I was there at 9:00, in the chair by 9:20 and finished by noon! Whoo hoo! I'm home, no SE and hope it remains that way. By the way I finally asked my nurse what exactly she meant by "drink a lot". She said at least five 8 oz glasses a day.
JFV- I'm so sorry you have to deal with insurance nonsense on top of everything else. I am reading a book called "Busting Loose" Cancer survivors tell you what your doctors won't, by Cheryl Swanson. There is a chapter entitled "How not to pay the bill". She said that she did not pay her cancer treatment bill until a year after treatment. She did take steps to protect her credit rating. In the end, the hospitals were very happy to accept a much lower payment (just like insurance companies get).
brat352- I can't be bothered with nail polish most of the time as I work with my hands so much it ends up looking chipped and nasty. Besides, I want to see if my nails are getting funky as you say. I just found this great product from Revlon called "Post trauma nail treatment". It's a bit pricey, I think $7. My nails were becoming very dry with a lot of ridges. It is not as thick or shiny as nailpolish. It is the palest pink and transparent, a little shine. It ends up looking like your nails have been buffed. It wears like iron, so far 10 days, no chips. I like it.
Who knew Duluth, Minnesota was such a destination? Though my mom talked about it so often, I have never been there. I would like to go someday, but not in the winter. Mom told me they put their car up on blocks for the winter, too cold to start them (1920s).
I love the t-shirt slogan idea! I bet we could all come up with some terrific sayings!
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Latte, Hoping that your port surgery does the trick and now it will work as intended. Mine is tipped and I can settle it in with a gentle push of my hand. That creeps me out. They don't want to mess with it if they can keep it working so I tolerate the nagging pull. I swear, I really hadn't a clue how tempermental ports can be.
And in preparation of your birthday, I think I'll bake a cake and have slice in your honor. Not something you want to think about when you can't eat or drink right now. But try to suck on ice chips or popsicles if you have some. I do honestly think that the tips I learned here about staying extremely hydrated made all the difference with my 2nd tx.
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Glad you liked the tshirts! Maybe we can start a cottage industry! The billing people from hospital say that my problem is common. I am an expensive payment and they want to hold on to their money as long as possible. One doctors office actually said I they got paid. So, maybe the insurance company is ready to comply. I sort of like sending nasty letters to them.
Got back from Onc and she said my tumor markers were up and my D levels are still low. She said she would keep an eye on things and I shouldn't worry. Of course now I am terrified. One answer is the chemo is killing the cancer and it is getting dumped in my blood stream, the other answer is a false positive, the other answer is things are getting worse. I hate getting this info and being told not to worry.
Last visit she told me that taking Taxol would make me unable to work and I would feel like I was being hit by a truck. This time she told me Taxol will be easier, no metallic taste, no nausea and less fatigue. Just a little bit of pain.
I agree gin2ca FINDING CHEMO THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING that is definitely todays theme
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I think that at 3 years out we should celebrate with a reunion in Deluth wearing tee shirts that say..."Don't mess with a woman who survived Breast Cancer!" And in pink, of course. We can burn out wigs then, too.
JFV, Try no to fret over what your onc said today. Obviously she isn't certain of what's happening and she blurted out everything that came into her mind. Of course it's Friday afternoon and that gives you maximum time to stew. But lots of gals here have done Taxol and can give you the benefit of their experiences and...tomorrow is another day. Be Scarlett...try to get some peace over the weekend and ask her more questions on Monday.
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Bon-Oh you have me roaring! The thought of all of us reuniting in Duluth, wearing wacky pink t-shirts and burning wigs. Now THAT would make the news!
Latte- I'm so sorry about your port trouble. Let's hope that they have fixed everything and it will be clear sailing from here on out.
JFV- I swear some Oncs need to be prayed for too. There is no need to "vomit" all the worst-case scenarios. Most of them will not even come to pass. Try to not fret about it, distract yourself. Someone once said "you don't get extra credit for worrying ahead of time". So true.
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Great idea about Duluth!!
Love the t-shirt ideas too! I saw a baseball cap that said "chemo sucks" and had to chuckle. Of course people can see your bald head when you wear it, so it would answer their question.
Latte--> Hang in there girl! You're almost through to the other side!! Hopefully you'll NEVER have to feel this crappy again!! And I do plan on telling my daughters to ask their docs about getting screened earlier. At least the mammogram--doubt if I can get them to get a colonoscopy any earlier!! But that way they can get a good "baseline", esp. if they have lumpy breasts. I want to stress the importance of "knowing their breasts"--if they start doing self exams now, they will notice easier if there is a lump.
I, too, am sorry some are having ins. trouble. That's the last thing you need to deal with now. I know that I am blessed to have such good ins. We've hardly paid anything out of pocket. There were a few things that needed pre-approval (like the neupogen shots), but other than that, not much trouble. I'm one that is really afraid of the new healthcare--its def. gonna mess up the good thing we got going now. For starters, they are taking away our ability to have an FSA--and we use that to pay our deductibles and such. I'm going to start my own savings account to help pay for the big items--hopefully they won't find a way to keep me from doing that!
Oh, and Designermom-->I think God was being kind to the administrators ! lol! I'm so glad that everything went well for you! I hope your se's are minimal!!
Have a great weekend everyone!
Tina
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im gearing up for next fridays last AC, im running a fever but i always seem to do this at this point, my low i guess, i hate the waiting, i wish all well to you, what a mess we get ourselves into..lol when this is all done we all need to meet in the middle
love to all, i need to lay down and not stress,, who me? stress? HA!!
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Hi Brat352
the strange lines running horizontally across your finger nails have a fancy name - Beau's lines. They occur because there is a temporary interruption to cell division at the nail matrix - some chemotherapy patients have a distinct line for each chemo cycle - a bit like a badge of honor! You can get them on your toenails too but its less common. I guess with all our SE's we at least know our chemotherapy is killing cells left, right and centre!
Thought I'd put up a picture of the look my lovely 17 yr old and 19 yr old sons like best - rather generously they declare I look 'like a model' !
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Hi all-please note the new picture. You probably can't read the little sign I made but it says: Last Dose Adriamycin/Cytoxan July 21, 2010. You can see the nurse pushing the red devil on my right. Woo Hoo! Taxol next- x 12
dsa-deb: my hair is indeed coming in. I asked my onc about it and he said it does happen sometimes. He also said when it does happen, his patients are concerned that the chemo wasn't strong enough, which he stated is not the case at all.
It looks like I have a five o'clock shadow! It feels really rough, which has taken a bit to get used to. My family has been teasing me that if they have an itch, or need a pedicure, they could do it on my head.
I had a different nurse for the 4th dose (my regular nurse is on vacation). That nurse said that even though it's starting to grow back, it will be an extremely slow process because of the continued chemo. I also noticed leg hair (no arm pit hair), and facial hair (peach fuzz if you will, on the sides of my face). It figures that the facial hair would come back first! I'm going to be ticked if I start getting chin hairs again already lol!
Isla: Your picture is beautiful-baldness suits you!
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Morning Ladies,
I feel so sorry for those of you having Insurance issues. I currently have wonderful insurance through my DH job. It is with United Healthcare. So far, touch wood, I haven't had anything denied. I looked at all the claims so far, and through my first chemo the numbers are: Billed $72000, Insurance paid $27000, I paid $2800, the rest is written off due to insurance negotiated rates. They don't cover my wig on this plan, however, based on everything else they've paid, I don't mind footing the bill for the wig! I am worried we will lose this coverage next year as my husband's employer is being acquired, but hopefully by then most of my treatment will be over. Healthcare costs in this country are out of control, I don't want to start a political arguement, but I do feel 'something' has to be done to prevent serious diseases from bankrupting us. $72000 from diagnosis through 1 chemo treatment? I've never even spent a night in the hospital! If my DH ends up laid off through the changes happening at his employer I guess I'll be blowing the dust off my UK passport and throwing myself on the mercy of the National Health Service :-)
Julia
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Isla and Laurie, I love the pics! Laurie, you are just a couple of steps ahead of me on the same program. I am 11/days after first treatment .... expecting hair loss very soon {sigh} I've made arrangements for it to be shaved by my hairdresser and have gotten some cute caps and scarves to get me started. Good luck on the next step down your road of recovery!
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Like so many other of you, my health insurance will change January 2011. No FSA except for prescriptions, but if I get an Rx for an over the counter I can claim that. Our "sick" time will now change to PTO (paid time off) which we will accrue (combines, sick and vacation time) Yikes! I have already been taking a vacation day here and there for medical instead of claiming sick time.
So far, no diarrhea! Lots of gas (excuse me!), but no runs. I guess the Diflucan is working! I'm not even feeling too bad. Sort of woozy and a little cotton-mouth, but otherwise I'll live. (Now if I just haven't spoken too soon!).
Designer Mom: thanks for the tip on the Revlon nail trauma stuff. I'm sure my pharmacy/general grocery store doesn't carry it, but I'll "Google" it and see if I can buy it. (Just checked it out, while I can buy it for $5.79, shipping is $5.99! Guess I'll go to K-Mart, Wal-Mart and Target to see if they have it.)
Woke up to LOTS of rain today. We really needed it. The grass was getting "crunchy". Ouch!
My female long haired cat is so full of mats and snarls even though I brush her at least twice a day, that I actually went out and bought a hair clipper to use on her to get all the mats out. She is especially matted on the inside of her back legs. Well, as they say, the best laid plans...as soon as I turned on the clipper - vroom - off she ran. Guess I'll take that back to the store for a refund! What was I thinking?
I hope everyone has a great symptom free day and I wish everyone lots of love.
Deb
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Ladies I like Duluth in 3 years with the Tshirts! I actually already gave away my wig. I can't stand it so I wear scarves only. I can burn some of ,my post mastectomy bras!
We paying our own insurance for many years. My hubby was a self employed roofer. We were paying over 1000 a month for insurance with 5000 deductable. Hubby took a parttime job so we could purchase group healthinsurance. We switched insurance during my diagnosis because the deduction from his pay check for the exsisting insurance would have been his whole paycheck. Funny thing is we went to a sister company and we all figured there would be no preexsisting problems. HAH!
OK why I am suddenly italics I do not know. I agree with those of you who say I shouldn't worry. and my Onco does have diahrhea of the mouth. Worrying does nothing but make me and everyone around me feel worse. But, as you all know it is easy to feel discouraged when you are already feel ill.
I enjoy all the new pics. Youlook great. As I didn't shave my head I sort of look like a middle aged gut working a comb over!
Best wishes to everyone who is making it to the AC finish line!
Joan
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gingersfavorite1: Thanks! It's weird because I seem to be doing ok with this last dose-must be the hydration. Although.....day 5 has been my worst (tomorrow), so we will see. This time I am taking Zofran and compazine on a regular basis instead of waiting until I get nauseated. Good luck to you girl!
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love the pics girls, i still have all my hair, but not sure if i lose it if i could post it, id not look near as good as you two!!!! next friday last tx of my AC i pray all goes well!!! im worried about it. i hear the last one is the worst???? love to all and no se's
Chey
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Ladies, for those of you still needing a wig there is usually somewhere near you that offers a free wig through the American Cancer Society. You could get a 2nd one probably if already purchased one. I got one through my employment facility that has a foundation funded voluntary shop for cancer pts. I got a wig, scarf, turban, hairband for cap, and a sleep cap all free. I think that was one of the best days I have had. It felt good to be acknowledged and helped without someone sticking their hand in your wallet. You can contact your local ACS or if you have Reach For Recovery they can help with all of this. I went to a local store called Hope Fashions that carries a lot of wigs and hir products and got the shampoo, a spray Wig Shine, and a Styling Spray for only $11.02 with tax. These products on the internet run about $27.00 plus S&H. Much cheaper locally. Just look in phone directory for Wigs or Hairpeices,Hair attachments. Most all of these places carry the products for wigs. They also have these really cheap silk caps to wear at night that will help comfort your poor sore scalp for sleep and will catch some of the shed. Mine cost $1.99 plus tax. Our local Sally Beauty Supply has these satin caps also. Hope this will help some of you if you need these things. All of this can really empty the bank account. There are also some programs out there if you qualify with help on paying for that high dollar EMEND. You can ask at ONC office or pharmacy may have the form. Hope someone can use that info also. Sorry, but these are all things available in USA. Hope everyone is having good day with none to few SE's. Still praying for us all from SC. Hugs all around and can't wait for our 3 yr reunion in Duluth or wherever. I have 3 wigs if anyone wants one to burn, but if not I will be donating mine back to shop where I got mine free. LOL,gin2ca
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Love all the new photos. I think a Duluth reunion sound faaaabulous. It's in the middle of the country, "new" for most of us, probably would love a bunch of wacky tourist women!
First day after treatment, so far, so good. I was a bit nauseous, but now the Zofran is kicking in and I am better. It is scorching here in NYC, hottest summer in history. I long for cool, Autumn and Winter walks in the park. I feel like a shut-in in this AC.
brat352- The scene of shaving your cat had me wondering. I was thinking "yeah, like this cat is going to go for that". And, it appears I was right. Back in the days when you had to put flea powder on a cat,my mom and I would put the cat under a fish net and powder through it, or we would get scratched to smithereenes!
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Cheyenne, I had my last AC wednesday. Other than worries from Onc my SEs have been minimal. Metallic taste, no bone pain from neulasta. Not pushing my self at all. Like designer Mom I am hybernating from this intense NY heat. Part of the reason I am on this board so much. I am also really appreciating the conversations and encouragement I receive from all of you!
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