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  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Prayer,

    [Darn I just wrote a great post, and the breastcancer.org gods ATE it!]

    Hang in there. Your fears are real. Of course you don't want to leave your children for a few days again, but think farther ahead. Think to the high school and college graduations, weddings and grandchildren.

    Use this group as a vent for these emotions. Absorb the good humor, the support, listen to others [especially that barb, she is something!], and realize that this too will pass. Really. It will be over.

    Take care of yourself.

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Cheryl,

    So glad that your daughter is arriving! Only downside I can think of is you might have to share your smoothies now!

    Enjoy her company,

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    AussieMom,

    Sounds like your apres-chemo celebration should be a chocolate party. Truffles, chocolate fondue, strawberries dipped in chocolate, little squares of chocolate and brownies.

    And, you might even want to invite a few guests. :-)

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Peg?

    Hey, just a thought... the next time you decide to renovate your house, don't get breast cancer.

    I can't imagine what you are going through. No kitchen? You have added a major challenge to your life during this eat-every-two-hour period.

    Good luck!

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Sandra,

    Welcome back. I hope that you had a restful and wonderful time in Scotland [well, besides scattering your hair hither, thither and yon.

    Will think of you during round 2....

    *susan*
  • prayer
    prayer Member Posts: 77
    edited October 2005
    Hello all. I have not been on the board for a couple of days and my eyes are having a hard time focussing to read all the new posts but I hope that you are all feeling well and not barfing...
    I have had a rough couple of days. Waiting for the doctor to call me back as we speak. This round of AC was much harder than the last and yet so much better than it could have been. I am pretty sure that I have an infection in my remaining implant and am very frustrated by it. You know this all started with dcis...supposed to be no big deal. Once I found out that it was invasive it was still supposed to be short lived but infection has set me back...expanding the tunnel as you might say. I am jsut really hoping that this is not an infection to but I can not imagine why it would be sore, especially after not having any problems and not feeling. It isn't red or swollen yet though and I am hanging on to that.

    Well Peg at least with no kitchen you don't have to feel guilty about not cooking dinner. Definately a plus.

    Sandra I can not tell you how jealous I am that you have been able to visit scotland. You see ever since I was really little I have had this list of places to see and Scotland is one. I'm glad to hear you had a great time.

    Marg Thanks for the prayers. Hoping that your second treatment is going ok and that you are getting some rest. And you are right, besides the neighbors stares it does feel better to be bald. Who would have thought. I asked my onc about it growing in and she said that it almost always grows back in thick and curly. Hoping mine grows fast and yours too.

    Well everyone...love to you all. I never would have thought that an on line forum could mean so much to me. Thank you for sharing your journey with me ladies.
  • Jimmy2742
    Jimmy2742 Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2005

    My mother just recently had a breast removed and now the doctor tells us that she had two lump nods with cancer as well. All of this is a shock to me and I still can't believe it. She must now do cemo. All of this from a 58 year old woman that I have never seen sick or miss a day of work. Could you help he understand a little bit of what she is thinking it is so hard for me to talk to her about it?

  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Prayer,
    Even your name reminds us to pray for you and all who are on the journey together.

    By the time you read this, the doctor will have called you back. How did it go? I am hoping for your sake there is no infection in the other implant. That would be another set back for you in more ways than one. You obviously would like the implant to keep going well and not to have it removed, and you also don't want your body to have to fight an infection - especially as you are feeling so low following this round . . . .
    You know, when we say "this round" it sounds like a boxing match: Round 1! Round 2!
    Keep going strong. You'll still be standing at the sound of the bell.
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Jimmy,
    Welcome to this site! I too have had one breast removed, with 2 lymph nodes testing positive. I have had 2 cycles of chemotherapy. My family and I can't remember a day I've had sick in at least 30 years. Healthy, energetic, fit.

    People react differently to diagnosis and treatment - just reading the messages posted will show you how different - yet how alike - we all are.

    There are the initial feelings of numbness, disbelief, fear of the unknown, and lack of control just to name a few. From diagnosis to surgery can often be a blur where we feel we are swept along by others, with no control ourselves.
    After all, we've been attached to this breast for our teenaged-->adult life. For some, it helped define our femininity, and our motherhood. So there is a grieving when the breast is gone. And because it is a breast, it is very personal, and so may be difficult to talk about.

    Between surgery and chemotherapy starting, is a time when it might all hit you. A time to cry a lot, regroup, and start gathering information, ask questions.

    How great that you want to understand, to be a support, an encouragement, a help. Perhaps you could recommend this website to your Mum? There are lots of information pages as well as the discussion boards.

    I don't know what her treatment team is like? Usually surgeon, medical oncologist (chemotherapy doctor), radiation oncologist (if she needs radiation later), breast care nurse, maybe physiotherapist, and counsellors.

    Counsellors in this area can be great. Ask. They can help both patient and carers, families. They allow you to talk and express your feelings, as well as to help guide you all through.

    Just keep on loving her, be ready to listen when she's ready to talk. If you don't know what to say, say "I don't know what to say".

    There are different therapies, with different side effects, experienced in varying degrees.

    As I said, maybe your Mum would like to check in? After all, we are together on this journey.

    Your family is added to my prayers.
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Susan
    Hopeful
    Tinkermax

    All going in for another round on Wednesday (Tomorrow)
    I hope and pray that all goes well for you.
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    AussieMom,

    Right back at you. I had forgotten that Wednesday was your day too. You have been added to my list of folks to think about. My only dilemma is, do I send the good thoughts East or West? :-)

    Take care,

    *susan*
  • jlpd
    jlpd Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005
    Hope everyone is doing well with their new round of treatments...my next one is next Wednesday...and I have to say that I'm actually feeling pretty good. Still have some swelling on my side...still focusing on keeping the 'nasty' taste out of my mouth...but more than anything focusing on the fact that by Christmas, I will have gone through all the chemo, should be a couple of weeks out of treatment actually...and should be feeling a LOT better...what better Christmas present could I ask for!!! (I think I'll do all my shopping mail order this year!! Ha!)

    Peggy, I hope you're feeling better. I hope you don't have an infection, but did they put you on an antibiotic just in case. (although I think antibiotics would be rather difficult to stomach with chemo!)

    Cheryl...how's the tooth. again, I hope it's not an infection. Is that a common problem with chemo? No one has indicated that to me. I have some 'not great' molars in the back, and I certainly wouldn't want to deal with that.

    Jimmy, the best thing you can do is talk to you mom when she feels like talking and be there for her...lots of love and hugs work wonders!!

    Well, I need to get back to my work...papers to grade! Fun! There is indeed a light at the end of the tunnel...and someday this will be a distant memory. By the way, pick up a copy of Prevention magazine...it has a really interesting article written by a breast cancer survivor...later everyone. Janet
  • hopeful1
    hopeful1 Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2005
    AussieMum/Tinkermax - I didn't realize you were on the same schedule. I will be thinking and praying for you as well. Best of luck to all of us and to everyone else having a treatment this week.

    Jimmy - I think it's wonderful that you are looking for ways to support your mom. You have come to a great place with many amazing women that have been a great help to me and will be the same for you. I agree with Janet - just be there for her. Her emotions and feelings are probably as confusing to her as they are to you. Just knowing that her family is there to support her is probably a huge comfort to her - as I know it is to me. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
  • joriesmom
    joriesmom Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2005
    Hello All,

    I haven't posted in a few days but thought I would provide and update.

    Had my first A/C 2 weeks ago and the second one yesterday. Felt pretty good (great) for the first few days as I continued to take my meds. Took neulata on the Tuesday following chemo infusion. Felt a little sore on Thursday evening and by Friday I felt like I was run over. Lots of tylenol and motrin and by Saturday pain was just about gone. Unfortunately, I did experience some delay nausea and felt pretty crummy all weekend. I did restart my compazine and zofran and by the afternoon of each day felt better.

    Learned a few things - drink, drink, drink and don't get behind on meds. Take the tylenol and anti emetics as soon as you feel anything. I am a nurse and I know better!! I thought I was reacting fast enough but I could have been quicker.

    Do Not Delay!


    Yesterday I noticed my hair coming out a little more.

    Had my girlfriend (stylist) come over and give me a short gi jane style. She also styled my two wigs that I got over the internet (Thanks Tinaireane). I think they turned out pretty good and most people won't even look twice. They are warm tho, I will save them for cooler days outdoors.

    I purchased a few little hat and scarves so I quess I am ready. I am most worried about my brows and lashes. I not much of a makeup wearer and don't feel very natural putting pencil on brows.

    I will keep trying and maybe they will only thin .

    Hope everyone is have a good day and treatments are going well.

    I love reading everyone's progress and pearls of wisdom.

    Good Luck

    Kris S
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    Hi Everyone

    Just back from my second round of FEC. Feel ok but tired.

    I am going to have a lie down and DRINK, DRINK, DRINK, orange barley being my drink of choice today!

    Hope the other ladies who have treatment today are doing well.

    Speak to you all soon.

    Maxine
  • prayer
    prayer Member Posts: 77
    edited October 2005
    hello all,
    Well the pain is still there and the doctor did not call me back. Had his nurse do it. At any rate it still is not red or swollen just hurts. I am wondering if maybe the neulasta did it? Could it? Does it do muscle pain or just bone and joint? At anyrate I feel much better as far as the poisioning. I have figured out that it takes about 3 days for me. The third being the worst. Last night I ate chowmein and gatoraide two things I would rarely ever touch normally. I can't get over how much chemo is like a bad case of morning sickness...that is with the added hangover.

    Aussie-mom you are right I do feel like it is a boxing match. It is a hell of a way to buy insurance. I told my onc that I thought it was unnecissary and she became irritated and asked me why I was doing it. I replied that I had children and couldn't take the chance, needed to know I had done everything I could to make sure and if it came back. The implants are sad for me as I did not have to take off my breasts and chose to. Kind of an insult to injury. But I don't regret it.

    It is starting to get cold in Ca, fall is in the air. Which I could see the trees back east. Now that the weather is turning it is easier to track down my students...they move slower when its cold. he, he.

    Take care everyone.
    Penny
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Prayer,

    I find myself concerned that your doctor doesn't answer your phone calls. Are you calling the Onc or the surgeon or the PT? I think I would be crawling the walls if I were you.

    Hang in there!

    *susan*
  • monkey9cats
    monkey9cats Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2005
    Good afternoon all! Boy I got up this morning with an upset stomach. I think it's because of the antibiotics I'm on because of my tooth or jaw problem. I called my onc yesterday and her nurse called me back (they return calls SO FAST!!) and told her about my swollen jaw & possible tooth problem. She told me when your on chemo there's really not too much that a dentist can do until after treatments are over with. It really makes alot of sense. They called in a prescription for more Keflex for me to take for 10 days. My ports sore and one of the incisions has a couple lumps on it. I'm not sure if they're mosquito bites or what. I think I lifted something too heavy the other nite when I was helping my daughter with her luggage and now the port itself is sore. You can sure feel a "pull" on it when you move wrong or lift something. I need to watch what I do.

    One more shower (I think) and my hair will be gone. I was laughing so hard when I was reading Susans post about a few hairs clinging to "the mother-ship". It's so much better I think to have a funny outlook on the hair problem because there's not a thing in the world we can do about it.

    Well they sent everyone home because of the rain today (except us in the office ha ha).

    I'll be having my next treatment this Thursday (hopefully) and have it all organized with my pills, water etc etc. Do you normally have the same side effects with each treatment or does it change from treatment to treatment? I asked the nurse yesterday about the headaches if slowing down the drip would help any (which someone said). She told me not really but you could try taking tylenol or advil the night before to see if that helps. I'm going to try that this time. I really didn't get sick with my 1st treatment only the head pressure and the horrible things that decadron does to you (I didn't like that feeling).

    Well back to work....everyone please take care!!!

    Cheryl
  • monkey9cats
    monkey9cats Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2005
    Sandra
    I just read your post. Yes I'm on Epirubicin & Cytonox (not spelled correct) for 4 treatments then taxotere for 4 treatments. I'm just not too sure which one is the "hard-core" one yet. I've got that on my list of questions for my doctor this friday after my treatment on Thursday. I think all are bad just with different side effects.

    Cheryl
  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited October 2005
    Hi ALL! I am having the "6th day tiredness" and I felt so good yesterday i planned stuff for today which i had to cancel. Funny i had it all written out from my first AC treatment which days would be hard but i "forgot"!

    Prayer, if you are talking about Neupogen pain mine was like bone AND muscle pain. I could not tell where it was coming from but it was unlike any pain i had before.

    They gave me Vicoden, did not do much, then OXY did more. Wow that was bad pain the first chemo session. I think they lowered my dose on the Neupogen shots this time around since he pain is not so bad.

    You need drugs and you need them NOW!

    It is maybe time to start e-mailing your Drs or Faxing them. Start asking for things in writing with dates on them. Man I would be MAD at your Drs delay!

    I hope you feel bettter.
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited October 2005
    Hi all

    Thoughts to all who are going for treatment tomorrow and other days this week – one step nearer the end of treatment.

    I have had my 2nd today and so far so good. I am sitting here in my headscarf with my big loopy earrings and I am so glad you gave me the confidence to have my hair buzzed – it is soooo much better and one thing less for me to worry about. Had a problem getting blood out of my line today – ended up having it out of my arm which naffed me off a bit.

    Cheryl I was told the Epirubicin was the ‘hard-core’ one but so far I haven’t been too bad on this. I am to follow with CMF and I am not sure what this is in relation to your Cytonox? Oh all these different names. It is strange having a different colour when you go to the loo on the day of treatment isn’t it – good job they warn you or else you would worry your were bleeding.

    I talked about Herceptin with the Dr today and she said if I was Her2 positive I would have Herceptin in addition to Tamoxifen – my results for Her2 are not through yet. I thought Herceptin was replacing Tamoxifen. Did you read the case over here where the lady won the right to be given Herceptin. She was going to sue under the Human Rights Act.

    Jimmy. I agree with all Aussiemum advises you – just remember your mum is more than a mum, she is a person and give her lots of hugs but remember she may want some space also. Jimmy also remember you will need someone to talk to from time to time.

    Good thoughts to you all. I am going to be sensible now and get off my computer and go and rest.

    Thank you all again.

    Sandra from the UK
  • prayer
    prayer Member Posts: 77
    edited October 2005

    Susan, I have called both of them, the onc and the PS. The onc had her nurse call and the PS said just schedule an appointment. Nice standard of treatment huh? Trying very hard not to act like a hyprochondriac and keep calling.

  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Thanks Susan - but Wednesday is not my day. (Mind you, good thoughts are welcome at any time, and if you send them East or West, the world is round and they get here!)
    I live in New South Wales NSW - an eastern state of Australia, about 1 hour south west of Sydney.

    Have a great day, Remember, this is one treatment you won't have to do again!
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited October 2005
    Hey all!
    I've just come through my "6th Day" slump. I slept most of Sunday, waking with that headachy, sinus, and congestion feeling (no fever, though) but had to pull myself together for the holiday meal at MIL's last night. I brought the wig, but never put it on. It was pushing 80 degrees (Indian summer?) and I couldn't stand the feeling of it on my neck. Luckily she didn't mind.
    I feel better today and we have more dinner invitations from Jewish friends for today and tomorrow.(Who needs a kitchen?)
    I am looking forward to my "good week".
    I hope all who are having tx this week, have good experiences with minimal side effects. Another one down!
    Love Peggy
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Janet,

    Can't believe you're still teaching! Do you work the first few days after chemo? Amazing!
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Hopeful,
    I'm feeling a bit bad now: misappropriating prayers and good thoughts! I am not on the same schedule, just remembered that you, Susan and Maxine (Tinkermax) were going same day. So I confess, it wasn't me!!

    Hope went well.
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Peg,
    let those dinner invitations roll on in!

    If it works for you, you may never need to quite finish that renovation: think of the money you'd save and all the time slaving over a hot stove or with dishpan hands!

    Great everyone was so comfortable with the au naturel look.
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Maxine,
    Glad the FEC is OK today.
    Is orange barley water a taste thing for you, or does it help with nausea? I hear ginger bear is good for nausea, but I gag on ginger, so that defeats the purpose, doesn't it?!
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Prayer! No the doctor didn't call back? Must be scary for you.

    With the neulasta shot for me, I had a lot of pain in bones and joints, but was surprised it wasn't just thighs, hips and upper arms! Also had pain neck and back - and a bit in my ribs. Maybe it is your rib cage?? Although it would be unusual for it to be one side only. Keep asking. Keep checking.

    And don't let your onc's irritation upset you, or deter you from your purpose. Yes, we are doing everything we can to prevent recurrence, and live long, happy, purposeful healthy lives. Keep up the positive attitude and the prayer.
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Cheryl,
    hope the antibiotics work quickly, and that the infection isn't putting too much of a strain on your white blood cell count. Fast recovery. Glad your doctors are fast (unlike poor prayer: in pain and no reply).

    I don't have a permanent port in (new site every time) but take it easy.

    As far as the head pressure goes, my onc nurses suggested slowing down the drip (as someone else has posted) and it was much better second time around. If you've got the time(!) it might be worth a try?

    Thoughts are with you.

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