single or double masectomy

momofbraj
momofbraj Member Posts: 49

I was diagnosed with ILC in February of 2009. At the time I had mets to many bones throughout my body so I did  not have any surgery and was placed on hormone therapy (femara and zometa). I went into remission and have been rather stable but my recent PET scan showed activity in the left breast again. I am planning on having a masectomy since the cancer every where else is quiet and my oncologist thinks it is a good idea now. My question is whether to have a double masectomy prophylactically as I have never been diagnosed with cancer in the other breast but I heard it is very common for ILC to appear in the other breast. My surgeon recommends a single but if I feel strongly she will do a double.  Any thoughts?

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  • Kate0574
    Kate0574 Member Posts: 120
    edited July 2010

    I would say with your history I would have a double.... that way you can have a sence of peace.  Just a suggestion!! GL TO YOU.... HUGGS!!

  • paml
    paml Member Posts: 81
    edited July 2010
    I agree with Kate. I did because of the ILC. There is a greater chance of it occuring in the other one with this type. Hang in there! HUGS
  • mlv2356
    mlv2356 Member Posts: 44
    edited July 2010

    I would agree with both ladies above.  I just had a dbl on Monday, ILC on the right and proactive on the Left.  Path report came back today that I had a 11.5cm mass on the right which everyone knew about BUT... I also had a 4mm ILC mass in the left.  Mammogram, Ultrasound and CT/PET did not find this small cancer cluster.  I am so glad we werre aggressive and had both removed.  Hugs to you in the decision you make.

  • Survivor07
    Survivor07 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2010

    Agree.....I had first mastectomy in 2001 and second one in 2008.  I could have maybe avoided this second recurrence if I had them both removed in 2001...but now I'll never know. I say go for both!

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited July 2010

    Just thought I posted a reply and can't find it sorry if I am repeating myself.  I have a story similar to mlv.  Saw a mass on other breast with PET scan.  It disappeared during biopsy.  When I had the double mast there was a small 6mm tumor on other breast.  Would have been going through this all again if I had not had the double mastectomy in the first place.

  • sueinfl
    sueinfl Member Posts: 258
    edited July 2010

    I had a tumor in my left breast. Neither mammo's nor US picked it up even 10 months prior, so I didn't not want to worry about the same thing in my right breast. Besides, I knew I would feel more "balanced" this way. I had skin sparing bilat mx with immediate HIP reconstruction. My recovery has been very smooth so far and I am happy with my decision.

    I wish you peace, speedy recovery and continued remission no matter what your choice, Mom!

  • travelgal6979
    travelgal6979 Member Posts: 160
    edited July 2010

    Hi.  I had a BMX in February due to ILC in my left breast.  My ILC was picked up in a mammogram.  It was initially thought be just breast tissue.  It took two more mammograms before I sent for a biopsy.  Then two more "lumps" were found in MRI's in the same breast.  I then decided to have a BMX as a prophylactic measure.  I'm glad I did because when my breast tissue for my right breast was sent to the lab during surgery, LCIS was found.  It was never detected in the mammograms or the MRI's. 

    I agree, I would have a BMX.  I'm so glad I had a BMX.  I don't ever have to worry about cancer showing up in my breasts again or mammograms.  Plus my implants are going to look symmetrical and perky.  Best of luck to you in whatever you decide.  Hugs.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited July 2010

    I would go for the bilateral.....both the surgeons I interviewed suggested that I do a bilat...it was an easy decision for me as that was one of the questions I was going to ask the surgeons, but they beat me to it...my right breast was full of cancer....prophy side turned out to be pre-cancerous....to me having both breasts taken off was one left worry....good luck to you

  • flopsy
    flopsy Member Posts: 365
    edited July 2010

    karen1956,  I two had a BMX with ILC and 5 nodes in one breast.  All imaging did not show any problem in other breast but surgery found two pre-cancers that probably would have progressed on given my dx.  This is a decision that only you can decide and you will not know what is in the other breast unless you remove it.  Hope this helps and sending you my support and prayers. We will help anyway that we can.  I am so glad your lobular was found earlier than most of us with that sneaky invasive lobular.  Good luck,LOL,gin2ca

  • flopsy
    flopsy Member Posts: 365
    edited July 2010

    So sorry karen, I misunderstood and thought this was new cancer and did not realize this began in 2009 with tx only and no surg.  I still would recommend BMX just because of being lobular.  My BMX was not bad at all and have great use of both arms with good mobility.  Are they going to biopsy that area or just do surg?  Keep us posted and I will be sending good thoughts and hugs your way.LOL,gin2ca

  • Seabee
    Seabee Member Posts: 557
    edited July 2010

    It is true in general that having BC in one breast increases the likelihood of it occurring in the other breast, but I see many cases of this happening with IDC, so I'm not sure it happens that much more often with ILC, if any more often.

    I would take your breast surgeon's advice. The fact that the original ILC tumor appears to be reactivating does not mean that your other breast is more at risk than it was before. It may just mean that the tumor is getting resistant to treatment and should be removed. Your BS knows what measures will suffice to do the job.

  • KorynH
    KorynH Member Posts: 301
    edited July 2010
    I also had ILC. I was told that it has a 30% chance of recurrence in the other breast but honestly, that also means a 70% chance that it WON'T! My surgeon told me that many women underestimate the loss of their breasts and that I could see how it went with doing a single right away and that I could always change my mind about the other side later down the road if I wanted. to. That was the best advice I ever got. Losing a breast has been a huge hurdle for me. I did have reconstruction, but make no mistake about it, it is not a new breast! It is a numb shape and has no sensation. It really doesn't even look like a breast if you ask me.  Nobody warned me about this life long numbness and tightness, not to mention back problems. For those of us for whom the breast is a big part of sexuality, having at least one to work with in that arena, has spared me from a total break down. Just my two cents. Once it is gone, it's gone for good. Your hair comes back, your energy comes back, but a breast never comes back. Cry 
  • momofbraj
    momofbraj Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2010

    I think I have decided on having a bilateral procedure done. I am too worried about the cancer coming back in the other breast and since upon initial diagnosis the cancer in my left breast didn't show up on two mammograms I think cancer in the other breast could be hiding as well. I am not strongly attached to my breasts but I don't need to be worried about every bump or lump for the years to come. Now I am concerned about finding a good plastic surgeon as many of the good ones in New Jersey do not accept insurance and with two kids going off to college I really don't want to spend $8000 out of pocket if I don't have to. My breast surgeon recommended one plastic surgeon who has a great reputation but does not accept insurance. I have found a Dr Coons in Union who does accept my insurance but I can't find much information on his work. Anyone know anything about Dr. Coons?  Thanks for all your responses. It was a great help.

  • sueinfl
    sueinfl Member Posts: 258
    edited July 2010

    Mom, I highly recommend investigating Dr. Sullivan or Dr. Delacrox at the NOLA Breast Center at www.breastcenter.com or Dr. Massey in Charleston. I had Dr. Sullivan and am so happy with my results. I have seen amazing work in person and on TimTam's website done by the other two. Do not rule them out because they are out of state. Most of their patients appear to travel cross county.

    Best wishes no matter what,

    Sue

  • sueinfl
    sueinfl Member Posts: 258
    edited July 2010

    Mom, I highly recommend Dr. Sullivan or Dr. Delacrox at the Breast Center at NOLA or Dr. Marga Massey in Charleston, SC. I have seen examples of their work personally and on Timtam's website. You can check out www.breastcenter.com for pics and information. Do no rule them out because they are out of state. It seems as if most of their patients are from all over the country.

    Best wishes no matter what,

    Sue

  • Stonebrook108
    Stonebrook108 Member Posts: 237
    edited July 2010

    Mom, most PS don't seem to take insurance but will try to work with you. My PS didn't take my insurance but, accepted what was assigned. If you willing to travel to Long Island NY he is fantastic. His name is Dr. Ron Israeli. His web site is www.BreastReconstrution.org

    There is a lot of women on this site who have used he. I had LCIS and had a PBM with direct implants and everything worked out great because of my BS and Dr. Israeli. Good luck to you

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited July 2010

    I too had an off plan PS on Long Island.  He is Dr. Silberman in Great Neck NY.  There is a national law requiring all insurance carriers to cover all phases of breast reconstruction.  So, I too will be working with my PS on accepting what ever is the lawful amount.  Currently having alot of trouble getting the insurance to pay anything so, once I get the in plan doctors paid I will work on getting the out or plan doctors paid.  Every woman needs to make the decision that is best for them about mastectomy and rebuild.  But, for me even though I am numb and in pain i feel happyt that there will be no more breast biopsies in my life.  The stress would do me in!

  • marjo
    marjo Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2010

    My Mom had a bilateral mastectomy for ductal cancer back in 1989 with no further treatment and no recurrance. I was diagnosed in June  2010 with ILC in left breast with a positive node and neg mammogram on right. Due to genetics I opted for a bilateral and am so glad, because LCIS (in situ is precancerous) was present in the right side. ILC is  hard to diagnose and I hope to do this only once.  Go with you gut feeling and don't second guess yourself.  Good luck

  • DoubleMammyWhammy
    DoubleMammyWhammy Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2010

    I had invasive ductal and a lumpectomy scheduled when Breast MRI detected another tumor in the same breast.  It was invasive lobular so the lumpectomy became bilateral mastectomy with DIEP reconstruction.  It was the right decision for me and I haven't had a moment of regret.  I agree with Marjo!

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited July 2010

    I was diagnosed with ILC with 5/9 positive lymph nodes and modified radical mastectomy.  I've completed AC and now am half way through my Taxol.  Today I asked my onc about removing my healthy breast as it was recommended by my surgical oncologist.  Well, I thinking that he is going to agree with my surgeon but he tells me it is not necessary and that he wouldn't recommend it.  Now, he is one of the best oncologists in the Northeast and I work with him on the Leukemia & Lymphoma Board.  He told me that recent results have proven that there really is no greater risk for ILC. 

    SO,  I am now totally confused.  I'm nervous that there might be LCIS like many of you have found.  All thoughts and advice welcome.

    Fondly, Heather

  • mymountain
    mymountain Member Posts: 184
    edited July 2010

    I hesitate to post my thoughts, because it seems everyone has a personal opinion on this.  Both my breast surgeon, and oncology surgeon (2 opinions) were against removing a healthy breast.  They both said the incidence of ILC occuring in the opposite breast are overestimatedand reported the recurrence or "spread @ 3% as opposed to an IDC @1 % per year.  For me I didn't want to give up my healthy breast unless there was a darn good reason.  I find that sexually I am happy I kept it.  If and when I recurr in the other side I will deal with it then. 

    On the other hand, I had a good friend who passed  away from her ILC a few months ago and she had the double mast.  She was sure the rate of spread to the contralateral breast was more like 50%, but you have to understand where she was coming from and her situation.  She chastised me often, and scared me about keeping the good girl. 

    It would be interesting to see a study with real data to what the actual "spread"  (know thats not the right term)  to the contralateral breast actually is,  so we can deal with facts and not the the opinon of surgeons and oncologists with their own biases.

    MM

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