Starting chemo Sept 05
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Aussie, i wish we could send ya some hereptin! Cant the company that makes it give ya some??"
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Hi
Aussiemum I found the best way to wash my mouth out with is having fruit saline after meals its made on bicarb soda and so far I havent got any mouth ulcers also clean teeth with bicarb toothpaste colgate have it.I dont know if there is anything like fruit saline in the states or other countries but it comes in a tin and when you mix with water it fizzes and you drink it straight down its made from castor sugar bi-carb and citric acid it also helps with the sick feeling in your tummy and to burp.
love carol -
Hi everyone, Marg here.
I got over my cold, only residual occasional cough and some stuffiness. The onc nurse told me to take OTC Clariton or Sudafed.
Penny, How are you doing? I think about you often. I see you went for it and buzzed the hair off. Good for you. My buzz cut started to come out and I looked like a bad baby chick -- my husband gave me the close shave and now I have a smooth bald head. Somehow that statement doesn't seem right does it -- "my husband shaved my head". Anyway, Congrats bald sister -- I know it was hard for you.
Aussiemum -- love the happy face on your head. Can you be any cooler? I think of ways to sneak you into the USA to get you on Herceptin. Maybe by the time you are done with chemo and need Herceptin- it is already approved. If not then there is plan B -- how to sneak Aussiemum this way!!!!
Cheryl -- congrats on the big buzz too!!!
I am off to Houston tomorrow and will have my 2nd AC tx on Monday. Also will get my implants filled some. I am a A cup now ( I use to be a double D). Not one mouth sore yet -- when do they start? I have been rinsing with the baking soda and water all day like I was told maybe that is what is helped me.
I am having a great time with my wigs, hats and bandanas. I got a shoe organizer, the kind that hang behind your door and have 12-15 pockets, anyway there is where I have all my caps, hats, bandanas, wigs etc... When I get dressed I can see all my stuff and get to pick out what goes best with that days outfit.
I having been feeling great this last week, almost back to normal. I am not looking foward to the next week but oh well, gotta do what we gotta do to beat this !!!!!!!
Susan -- where are you in your tx -- I forget?
Love all of you and as usual I pray for us all
Marg
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Bubbles:
you are so sweet! As I have posted, the petition is underway and I am optimistic for the future. I don't fit requirements for current clinical trials here either. But I'm not worried. I am sure the chemo, radiation, tamoxifin will get it - if it doesn't get me first!
Carol:
FRUIT SALINE!!! I always thought that it was too sugary for a mouth wash! Well I never. I'll give it a try. Thanks. And the bonus of helping with nausea.
For toothpaste I've tried the biotene - expensive and tastes like dencorub to my tastebuds! I'll move to the colgate. Taa
Marg:
You too are great with your ideas. I won't be coming stateside, but its a fun thought.
I LOVE your idea about organising your hats/scarves etc. I'll try it.
Glad you like my head. On the side I also had a Nike 'swoosh' and I captioned the photograph: "Chemo? Just do it!" I didn't post that one in case Nike sued me!! Maybe they could give me sponsorship for herceptin??!!?? Ha Ha Ha!
The onc department visit me when I pop in to see what I'll do next.
I am glad that you are over your cold - can't afford an infection. Keep those mouth ulcers at bay. All the best for your second cycle. (About your implants: are you aiming for the same cup size as previous? I am a full D one side, nothing the other. I'd like to compromise and be a B both sides!!) -
Remind me- the next time I undertake a major renovation on my house, don't get cancer at the same time.
I had to leave yesterday because of all the dust, for some shopping therapy at the mall. Also some eating out therapy, because my kitchen has been demolished.
I'm afraid we overdid it a little and I came home exhausted.
So checking in this morning-what do I find? Inspiration, Humor, advice! You women are amazing! As our September Club moves into October, let's continue to be supportive and strong together as we all fight our individual battles.
Thank you all!
Peggy -
Carol, I know that feeling of dread as you approach treatment.
I have a friend who underwent chemotherapy 10 years ago in NYC.
Many years later, she was taking her son shopping and had inexplicable nausea. Then she realized, she was at the same subway stop where she had chemo many years before. She had to go home. She also told me not to listen to your favorite music while being infused, because you may never like it again. The mind is pretty powerful. -
Cheryl, I hope your tooth behaves. Enjoy your visit with your daughter. How long will she be staying? Let her fuss over you all she wants.
Margaret, Great idea about the shoe caddy. I now have shopping bags full of scarves that look like an explosion in my bedroom while I'm trying to get dressed in the morning. A little organization will help. -
It's day day 10 for me and I think I had severe anemima yesterday. In the morning I felt great, but during the day I started feeling just incredibly antsy, tired and irritable. When I finally returned home, I was too tired to get in bed. When I stood up, I almost fainted. My husband was there when it happened again and said my color just left and I was completely white. My pulse was very rapid, resting at 90 and I had a terrible headache as well as left shoulder ache. I tried to call my onc. from 7:30 pm until 9:30 thru her service. She never returned the calls and has no one else to cover. At 10 pm the receptionist tried to get the emergency room nurse to help, but after I called she put me on hold for 15 min. When I called back to find out what happened, the nurse refused to talk and said if I had a problem I should come in. The problem is the hospital is an hour away, I had a fractious 4 yr old and I only wanted to go if it was necessary. I prayed, and then decided to take a lorazapem and try to sleep. Even with the lorazapem, it took hours before I could sleep. But my pulse went down by 12 am and my husband said my color was returning. Today I feel better, just headachy. Still no return call from my onc. Does anyone know if this is normal?
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Morning all!
Peggy my jaws still swollen. I don't know what it is whether it's my tooth or something else. I just got off the phone with the doctor on call. I had some Keflex left over from an infection from my 1st surgery and they told me to start taking them right away which I did. They also said if my WBC was down come Thursday they probably wouldn't do my next treatment. I really want to get the treatments over & done with and really don't want any delays. Guess there's not much you can do about it. I'm going to call my regular doctor tomorrow & see what she says.
My daughter will be here for as long as I need her. Could be 2 months or 6 months. She was in California then decided to move to Texas and doesn't have a job or place to live so she's coming here to drive me to my treatments and doctors appointments when I can't drive. I've been relying on the people I work with & friends to help me getting to surgeries & doctors so it will be nice to have her here for that.
I vacumned my head again this morning (LOL). Really works pretty good!
Cheryl -
Hi Everyone
My husband has shaved my head today, it was down to 1/8th inch anyway, but i was starting to see bald patches which didn't look so good.
It doesn't look so bad, but I am worried about losing my eyebrows. I need to get an eyebrow pencil so I can draw them on if the inevitable happens. My leg hair is still growing as is my underarm hair, other body hair is falling away.
My second treatment is on Tuesday.
I have a blood test tomorrow to see if everything is ok.
Can anyone give me details of what counts they are looking for, for RBC and WBC and anything else they check on. I don't know anything about the levels they are looking for.
Thanks for all your help everyone, I look forward reading your posts everyday.
Be strong everyone
Maxine -
constancediane,
A similar thing happened to me three days after my second dose of Taxetere. I was fine in the morning but towards midday I felt jittery and shaky. Next thing I knew I had slipped to the floor! I was fine afterwards and have had no further episodes of this. So, unless you have a repeat performance, I would just put it down to another weird chemo effect. And goodness knows, there are plently of those!
Love Taff -
All right guys I just need some encouragement. I want off this train so bad!!! I lost my implant due to an infection about 6 weeks ago before I began chemo. I have to wait until chemo is done before I get it back. Not that big a deal now that I have gotten used to it but now I think I have an infection in my remaining implant. The symptoms have started the same way. Tender breast that woke me up when I moved. Last time I wound up in the hospital for 9 days...two hours from my children. It was absolutely awful. I just can't do this again. I had my second treatment of AC friday. Other than my breast and a tempermental stomach, I am feeling pretty good physically, but emotionally I am having a rough time.
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CD, what would make me afraid is that you could not get ahold of an onc or even a good nurse! what a slacker place!
My hair is coming out in clumps now, three days after my second AC. Dont know why i was hopeful i would be in the 1% that kept thier hair. Even though i have hats and my wig i still cryed for about 15 minutes. Then I took 10 MG of Valium and watched a movie and felt a little better. -
You know you are having a chemo kind of Sunday when:
Sunday paper comes and you are excited at the ads for meds.
You also look to see if there are any sales on hats.
The 7th day of rest takes on a whole knew meaning.
You think it is inspirational to read your Bible and rub your head with tape because the hair keeps falling into it.
You can't wait for your husband to return from church with wigs from another lady who just finished treatments.
You thank God for all the simple pleasures in life and know none of them are food.
You pray for all those people who are praying for you.
Hope you all have a blessed Sunday. -
Prayer,
I too felt I wanted to quit after the first treatment. Now I have a sinus problem that is turning into a nasty cough. I want to quit and then I also don't want to delay my next treatment. My chemo mind is off. But it is nice (and a bit sadistic) to know that others are having a hard time with this too. I feel like we are warrriors together. I made my cheat sheet of names on this board and pray for each. Sometimes we feel alone in our homes but remember your friends on 'the board' are with you in many ways. -
For all the mouth sores. I think in the beginning of these discussions someone mentioned eating ice during treatments. I tried for my second treatment and it really helped. They said their onc recommended it to close the capillaries in their mouth while the cytox went in.
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Well I have spent all last night catching up with the posts following my break in Scotland. I left a little piece of me in each place I visited a couple of strands of hair. My hair is (was) pretty thick so I think I may still manage the weekend without putting an animal on my head still havent found the courage to buzz. I had a poodle so that I didnt have dog hair all over the place now my hair is appearing everywhere!!
Susan although still a newbie I have been thinking about throwing a party at the end of treatment and invite everyone who sent me best wishes and cards I have had 120 cards and have thrown the last of my flowers away today I feel blessed to have so many people who care about me, although the telephone calls and visits can sometimes be tiring now, although in the beginning kept my spirits high.
Nicole I watched the movie and shed buckets but agreed I may have (or had) C but it hasnt got me thanks for the link, it is now in my favourites.
If it is any help I was advised by my dentist to get Difflam oral rinse to try and avoid mouth ulcers it is Benzydamine Hydrochloride. I went straight out and purchased a bottle which cost me £7 and then the hospital issued me one free of charge. I also find good old TCP liquid good, just a quick dab with a cotton bud, initial sting and hey presto.
Well I chilled out (literally) in Scotland but feel a little down now that I have come back to reality. Hospital tomorrow to have Hickman line flushed, Tuesday is my 2nd treatment with Epirubicen and yesterday, besides my scalp feeling very tender and my hair appearing everywhere except on my head. Norine I have also started my period! This was the one highlight (besides beating C) of having to go through the treatment possibility of no periods. I wasnt entirely surprised though as I had read a lot of us still do, despite being warned that they may stop.
Thank you for allowing me to view your photo gallery Marg love them all beautiful family. I am particularly into sunsets and loved your sunset photograph.
I dont seem to read many who are on Epirubicin or is it known as a different name? I am having this for 4 cycles and then move onto CMF. My onc has mentioned me having Herceptin (I think this is the correct name??) as opposed to Tamoxifen as she said funding will be through by the time I need it??
Peggy/Carol I had 21 nodes removed and yes I am still experiencing discomfort in my arm if I stretch it can be painful and although I cant see anything running down my arm it does feel like a tight cord in my arm that goes right down to my hand I am going to mention it to onc on Tuesday when I go for 2nd treatment but in the meantime will try the exercise routine mentioned on the board thanks for this.
Cheryl I am glad you asked about abbreviations. Are you on Epirubicin too?
Cassa I am going for treatment No 2 on Tuesday and I know the want to run feeling cos I am experiencing this also.
Bubbles, just thank you. I am going to my 2nd treatment with a positive outlook and will consider how I can help others. I have already helped a lady who is 2 weeks behind me and it made me feel really good.
Can you please tell me where I can find the place you are all posting your bald photographs?
Hey folks before I finished my reply to you all I decided to take the plunge and text my hairdresser friend to fit me in to buzz my hair I plucked up the courage to do this after reading all your postings on the hair thing.
Speak soon thoughts and best wishes to you all.
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Hi Sandra
You need to send a PM to timtam and she will send you a link and password to view the bald pics.
I am on FEC, the E being Epirubicin. From what I can gather it is very simiar to the A in AC that a lot of the American ladies have, the C being the same.
I too am hoping to have #2 Tuesday, I have my blood test tomorrow.
Be Strong
Maxine -
Well is has been an interesting day to say the least. The "gala" had about 1000-1200 guests and we ate all kinds of "strange" food to this meat and potato kind of gal...the motivational speaker was a gentleman who is a physician/psychologist who was a 3 time survivor of Hodgkins and his wife is a 2.5 year breast cancer suvivor. It was very uplifiting and a celebration of life ans survivorship. It did me good to go but the three hour ordeal required an equal 3 hour nap when I got home...LOL
I will have to catch up on all my reading later as I feel out of touch...my computer had an issue so I am using one of the other ones in the house...maybe if I feel up to it I will fix MINE..LOL...get that...MINE...tomorrow...(after being in computers for years repairing/fixing ect..you get a little possessive!).
I actually still have some hair left it has stopped falling ot for the most part but I am sure by the time the next treatment happens it will be gone ...never thougt I could get so cold! Strange feeling with no hair..LOL...Now I know what all them "bald" ol men feel like and why they always have hats on...never was much of a hat wearer but sure becoming one now...since everyone in our house likes the house BLISTERING COLD!...LOL
Anyway..just checking in and will write more later..have a great week everyone..
oh and Susan...your a great inspiration to us all withyour attitude!
Tina -
Maxine and SandraH,
I too get Epirubicin, Yes it replaces "A" Adriamicin. My onc gives it instead of A since it is easier on my heart. He told me they use E more in Europe and Canada. Made me feel worldy extravagant. HAHA. I get a MUGA test this week which will check to see how well my heart is functioning. Hope to get my 3rd continental cuisine next Monday. -
Morning Sisters!
I have spent the last three days NOT being a cancer patient. My daughter called last week, the same day I buzzed my hair, crying that she wanted to come home. Of course you can come home, I assured her, but not to take care of me. This is always your home. Well, in the intervening days, she decided she wouldn't come home because she wanted to attend a conference, or visit a friend. Friday she came home! [For those of you who don't recall, she is a freshman in college and LOVES it!]
Then on Saturday my sister arrived to spend the night. This sister is not known for being connected to her family, and well she drank enough for both of us, but it was fun. We all sat in the garden talking, ate several delicious meals, and laughed and laughed and laughed.
This is my 'good' weekend, so I had enough energy to keep up. Lauren [daughter] and I managed to do some much-needed errands including finding a winter coat.
Wednesday I will return to the Chemo Bar for my next treatment. "Give me a double," I might grumble. :-)
I am definately having a periodontal flare-up and am thinking I might have a yeast infection. Never had a yeast infection before, so I am just going by those horrid tv ads for symptoms. Unfortunately, I have had periodontal disease since I was a young kid [darn genes,] but my normal mouthwash is off-limits. Another question for my nurse.
My baldness is at about 80% now. I had thought the hair would be all gone by now, but a few stubborn hairs continue to cling to the mother-ship.
Today is a perfect New England fall day. This makes three in a row. It is so much easier to be optimistic when the sun is shining and the air is crisp.
Take care all,
*susan* -
Hello everyone!
Like Susan - I had a 'normal' weekend! I went to a big neighborhhod party on Friday evening and spent most of Saturday at my daughter's cheeleading competition. I also went to a football game on Sunday! The weather here has been beautiful as well. I wore my wig all weekend - and I actaully felt comfortable in it for the first time. One of my neighbors (who was out of town when I buzzed it last week) asked me if I have lost any hair yet! He couldn't believe it when I told him I was wearing a wig. I think that miade the rest of the weekend easier.
Prayer - hang in there! My thouhts and prayers are with you. I hope you are feeling better soon.
Bubbles - The hair thing was probably the most difficult leg of this journey for me as well. Beleive it or not - it is getting easier for me. I wish the same for you!
Tinkermax - I go for treatment #3 on Wednesday. My eyebrows and lashes are still holding strong!
Susan - I know we are on the same schedule - I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday.
Thanks again to everyone for all of the support! -
Hi all
Just popped in briefly - tonight's the night - my friend is sorting my remaining hair - I am soooooo nervous. I have been and got myself some big earrings as I think they will look 'cool' with headscarf.
Speak soon.
Sandra from the UK -
Cheryl,
in a strange way, could be a blessing that your daughter 'doesn't have a job or a place to live'. It will be great for you to have more physical and emotional support. -
Maxine,
All the best for your second treatment today!
You'll be able to show off the 'new do' to your onc nurses. I, too, hope I don't lose the eyebrows. I've never plucked or shaped them, but they do help give our faces their character. Have that pencil ready! -
Susan,
What a fantastic 'normal' weekend for you! Hope it is continuing into the week - before you 'step up to the chemo bar and ask for a double'!
You are going so well and you give many people a lift. Taa -
Sandra,
Did you get your hair 'sorted'? How did it go? Laugh, cry or a mix of both?
I too got some big earrings, at the suggestion of a few people. Son 17 says I look like a pirate! Daughter 13 says I look like a gypsy! I'll spend my home time saying "Arr me hearties" while dancing and tapping my tambourine, just to stir them! -
It is good to see most of you had a good weekend...I think I overdid it a bit...oh well..just sleep a bit more this week..LOL
Things have been rather interesting and the fatigue is really kind of bothering me but just trying to remember each and every day that this is just a part of the journey and it will not last forever!
Have a good day/night everyone.
Tina -
Aussiemum I did it and boy do I feel sooooo relieved. When I fathom how to put my piccie up I will put a post one with and without my wig.
I have got the big earrings in but they dont look cool with the wig I am going to wear these with the headscarf. My daughter thinks the earrings are 'awful' but likes the wig.
I wouldnt let me friend show me in the mirror but I did ask her to take a photograph of me and I have looked at that now havent seen it for real as we speak but that will come when I go to bed. I havent shed a tear the time was right and I can now look forward to not getting hair in my mouth and ears.
My friend is picking me up for a Sainsburys teacake and we are going to see who spots the difference I am quite well known in our local Sainsbury coffee shop (lol).
Thanks for your support another major hurdle beaten.
Sandra from the UK. -
Tina,
You may have overdone, but you got to go drink champagne and funny food. [That made me smile sooooo much!]
I definately find that I need a nap most days now, so fatigue is playing its role during my journey too. It seems from here that round 2 has been easier on you in other ways though, is this true?
*susan*
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