I am terrified of chemotherapy
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lizzymack, so glad to hear form you and to know that you've been getting support from these great women on this site. They have given me more information and support in this one place than I could have possible collected from all the other sources available to me.
do talk to your onc about the treatments and side effects. I complain about some moer than others. Almost everyone has a 'pet' side effect to gripe about. Chemo isn't pleasant but you'll get the truth on these sites adn the truth is far better than lies.
I posted that info about hair loss and the free head wraps for anyone who might need it. There are lots of wonderful organizations ready to help women going through this. Sadly, there are way too many of us in all ages, shapes and sizes. BC isn't pretty. Chemo isn't for sissies. But we can do this. Please stay in touch.
Blessing to you and best of luck. Bon
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I showed up and had 2nd round of chemo today. Doc backed it down by 10% because it kicked my WBC way too low first go around. Having Neulasta injection tomorrow instead of waiting a week like last time. So figuring that the flu-like symptoms will be with me this weekend and will need to lay low.
He had no concrete idea on why the headaches lasted so long and were so severe. Said Aloxi was out of my system fast and didn't see Decadron as the culprit. Also thought chemo had cleared before or close to onset and maybe Neulasta was part of the issue, but usually causes bone or chest pain. So he suggested that it could have been a virus that got hold of me during that rock bottom WBC and it just had to run it's course. We'll see if that's credible this go around.
Regardless, he gave me script for Oxycodone to use if 2 extra strength Tylenol won't do the job. So I can rot my liver or...I don't do well with any pain meds so am very apprehensive about Oxycodone. Pharmacist made sure the tablets are scored so I can cut them in half and start out smaller if I decide to take them. She recommended taking at night first time and said a stool softener would be totally necessary throughout if I go the pain-med route.Just another lovely issue to consider now. The treatment for one SE causes more SE's. Great.
It's about 11 hrs since end of infusion and true to the last time, I'm feeling OK. Drinking tons and peeing most of it out but I can see ankles swelling. Trying to stay away from salt (which is all I crave) and added 99mg potassium tab to daily intake. Already had leg and foot cramps starting 10 days ago.
And true to form, I've had a load of calls in the last 48 hours for business this next few days, Figures. Am taking a take a deep breath and praying headaches stay away and I'll be at least semi-functional and able to meet or at least deal with clients via phone and Internet. A big part of all of my apprehension isn't just the physical and emotional...it's the financial. I have to work to live and the SE's just don't make that easy.
Onward and upward, as they say., I will do this but still say Chemo isn't for sissies.
When life hands you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate. I'm demanding dark chocolate! Bon
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I love that: chemo isn't for sissies! I am two years out and have to say that I can hardly remember a thing about it now..except for maybe my Eyebrow Period (not my most attractive time of life..
) but hey! We go through it just to come out the other side! Life is awesome..EVENTUALLY!!.... NEVER forget that! xxxxx
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I understand how you feel, because i was feeling the same way too. My worse problem with chemo was the nausea and vomit for 3-4 days. But this depends on each person because i knew people who did the same chemo with me and didn't have the same side effects.
Now i'm 1 month post chemo and i feel that things were not that bad as i was afraid. Now i'm on Herceptin which doesn't cause any side effect.
Just try to be patient and soon everything will seem just a bad dream!
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Thanks, Ladies. It's morning for the day after 2nd round and I didn't sleep much but still don't feel any worse the wear. Will go this afternoon for Neulasta and just settle in for the weekend. Will just try to relax and take what comes
Will make chocolate pudding, chicken soup and get see if I can get some Books on Tape to lull me if I'm not up to reading, working or watching TV. Already have the mac and cheese, Popsicles and plenty of water for the drink and pee process and . Have metamucil, stool softener, probiotics, Protonix, B Complex, Extra Strength Tylenol and Oxycodone. And a lint roller to deal with the stubble that's left on my head. What more can a girl ask for?
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Oh Bon you make me laugh!! Such good spirits- what a way to go into this!! Wish I would have thought of the lint roller for my head!!
I am done with my second Taxol treatment - only 10 more to go! My eyebrows and eyelashes are now officially gone! Although, my hair seems to be coming back in - knock on wood!!!
To a great SE free weekend!!
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kad22...my eyebrows are partially gone now and my eyelashes are dropping out slowly. Keep getting them in my eyes and not much use for mascara any more. The eyebrow pencil I use is a blonde Avon Glimmer stick and it looks pretty OK. (My friends steal them when they can because the color is perfect for almost anyone other than those with black hair.) Just trying to get the brows even is a challenge. Looked at myself in the mirror on the way to chemo yesterday early AM and had one much wider, longer and higher than the other. Had to start over or I would have had to hold my head tipped all day to hide the mess.
Doc tells me all hair will drop by end of next week and that it should start growing back in a month or so. I sure hope so. Although, it's so much cooler with no hair here in Florida. And much less fuss. Can't believe how fast I can get ready in the mornings!
Still trying to throw back those lemons and demand chocolate....Bon
PS/ Hope your Taxol tx go well. Let me know how long it takes to get some eyebrows and lashes back, please.
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Kerry and zoegr: thanks for your inspirational words. I just got my chemo diet today; cytoxan and taxotere....Bon...I will joining you on Neulasta shots, lint rollers for hair, vomiting, SE's that cause SE's (very humorous!!!!!!!) although hopefully no headache! Not looking forward to that. I hope you are feeling better. BTW, you have to generally take a lot of oxycodone for a long time to do damage. If you need them temporarily, use them. I never took a pain killer in my life until this bmx w/immediate recon....I broke my rule against never taking them!!
The news just gets better....they are talking about radiating as well because apparently the cancer got into the sentinel node and was also breaking out the sides, for lack of better words? Now they want to radiate under my arm. Then they started talking about all kinds of tests and scans to make sure blah blah....I said forget about it. I am not joining the "poke and prod" club. They will be hunting up every shadow in my body for further testing...no way. Whatever time I have left I am not going to spend it flying in and out of hospitals....hell no!
That is all for today, girls. Bon...I will be joining you at the end of the month! ugh..
Liz
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Lizzymack1, I went and read the posts you've done on other forums to get a feel for what you've been going through. I'm so terribly sorry that this was such a big surgery and that they are wanting to poke and prod some more. I understand your reaction to just say no, enough is enough, but maybe some of the scans will be beneficial and relieve some of your fears, not cause more. I had to have additional scans and it was frightening to have to deal with. But I survived that emotional trauma and eventually got answers that helped me make the decisions I could live with. I've set my limits, too. I sincerely understand and respect your idea not to go forward with more tests, but please, think it over one more time. If it can be something not too invasive, since I know you've been having a time of it with the surgical procedures, maybe it would be worth doing. You've gone this far. Maybe you can get one step more and have some good news. Or at least concrete news instead of speculation.
I've wanted to quit many times already.Didn't even want to have the surgery at first. Just wanted to play ostrich and live with the tumor until it just burst out of my chest and took over the world.
I know we're all different. And you may be at your breaking point with no turning back. That's OK, if it's really true. But I hope it's just a first reaction and that you'll maybe get more details about what tests can and can't be done 'easily' and maybe reconsider.
Everyone is here to support whatever decision you make. None of us likes being here. All of us have learned so much from each other and want the best for everyone we meet on this website. I think www.breastcancer.org deserves an award for being the most comprehensive place to get first hand info on all things BC related. Damn BC...but bless BreastCancer.org and the women who post here.
Anyway, keep up with me on OUR chemo schedule. Got my Neulasta injection about 2 hrs ago and ready for anything...I think.
Talk to you again soon. Bon
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Bon:
I thank you so much for your support as you go through this madness yourself. You are so wonderful in the way you reach out to the rest of us as you are in the middle of this. How are you doing with your neulasta shot? How are you feeling today? I hope you are doing well.
I was just really surprised by all this information today. It was a lot. I really did not realize it had so aggressively attacked my sentinel node and was bursting out of it. In addition, I never wanted radiation anywhere near my heart. I am 40 years old. He says the radiation won't get near my heart because they will be radiating under my arm, where the nodes were, because the cancer was moving out of the sentinel node.
When I tell you I have the greatest breast surgeon Yale has to offer, I mean it. I value her opinion, assessment, professionalism and direction above anyone on these matters. I wish she was my onc, radiologist, BS and phys therapist all rolled in one! Alas one woman has only so many hours in any given day!
This bomb that was dropped today was delivered with the mellifluous brevity of Dennis Miller with the idea that I will be living out a Tolstoy medical novel live. It all seems so much and so lengthy and seemingly so never-ending. This has forced me to regroup. I don't mind chemo; my BS and my GP, who I love as well, both told me chemo was, from my GP's perspective, quite likely and my BS corroborated his contention with post-operative evidence.
I will get through this but for now I have to read all the literature, read on how to eat to nutritionally enhance white blood cell regeneration, start to accept this chemo business will be starting soon, get my hair cut off and start to plan for the next 2 months of hopefully something that won't be so bad.
I did not play ostrich like you immediately but I am definitely liking the ostrich position now!!!!
Hope you are doing well and thanks again for your selfless concern.
Be well-
Liz
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Lizzymack1:
I'm relieved to know that you are being treated at Yale and are in an environment worthy of your condition. I spent nearly 30 years in medical research, half as an actual hands on researcher and the 2nd half as a research facility administrator at two good eastern med schools. So imagine my surprise being in a small Florida town where there wasn't even a surgeon for over 50 miles who specialized in BC. Locally I kept hearing that there were 'three guys who did some breast work'. That's when I went into ostrich mode. If I hadn't found that one surgeon who I could rely upon, who I knew was on top of it all and could guide me properly (even at a distance), I know I could not have gotten this far. My surgeon, too, was the key to my 'success'. I liken this BC trip to a giant mystery tour bus ride, with the BS as my primary driver. I've allowed the Med Onc to take over the wheel for now, but for me that surgeon is 'still the one'.
Whatever route you take on your own bus ride...well I'm here to support you at every stop along the way. We are, after all, doing the chemo nonsense together and like I keep saying, this isn't for sissies.
I'm 36 hrs out of 2nd chemo and 10 post Neulasta. Never got to finish making my chicken soup or pudding because my legs got the wobbles a few hours ago. Going to bed early was the best choice. Up doing the drinking, peeing thing and now back to bed where the room is spinning a bit but it's controllable. Hoping it stays that way.
Liz, I pray you'll be well, too. Bon
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hey bon- you're so lucky you found this site BE$ chemo; i didnt till 1/2 way thru, and my chemo nurse was the one who told me about it. i had a really rough ride in chemo; i have multiple sclerosis, and the two do not agree, i tell ya that ! but, it WAS doable. i ended up with six drugs, 22 sessions.. i went out to eat after almost all of them.strange cravings..malt waffles got me thru..you'll find what works for you. i totally agree about the EMBEND..i forgot 1 time, and yes, it was the time i lost my cookies...no big whoop, they gave a little more med into my iv, and i was fine. my fav. person i ve met in this journey is my chemo nurse. she really stood by me !! people used to tell me i was brave.. i topld them hell, no, im scared to death..just too desperate NOT to do it.none of us chose this, it was thrust upoun us !!remember, noone ever said we had to do chemo GRACEFULLY..just that we had to do it. one session at a time. my bets on you, girl...light and love, 3jaysmom
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Feeling a bit deflated. Found out yesterday that my tumor is also PR-. So I'm a double negative with Her2+ so I get Herceptin. Went to the cancer math site to look at chemo options and saw the stats on survival. That was at 4 this morning when I was up and roaming. Had Neulasta yesterday afternoon and 2nd chemo the day before so in holding pattern to see how I feel the next few days. Have hydrated fully, as compared to the first go around when I didn't know or understand how important that was those first three days,
Still throwing back those lemons life has handed me and demanding chocolate...but I want dark chocolate and I want it NOW!
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Day 6 into 2nd chemo dosing. Day of tx wasn't eventful, just long wait to have 5 bags infused at reasonable rate. Chemo was reduced by 10% this time and Neulasta give day after, instead of waiting a week. WBC was up but all other blood cells gone, gone, gone. Told to eat red meat...sure, just what I wanted the day after chemo. I am not a meat eater...but guess maybe next week I will be.
Indigestion persists, even with Protonix. Day 2-4 ravenous for carbs. Thank the Lord for a mac and cheese and Nabisco for Sugar Wafers. And salt. Chicken soup is still good for the soul. Need strong flavors since most stuff tastes like metal, liberally rubbed down with bug spray.
Hydrated so much that finally hit the wall with plain or fortified water and can't take another sip. Now it hits my stomach like lead. Have been doing cranberry juice diluted with sparkling water or tonic, flavored H2O's, decaffeinated green tea, Popsicles.
Trying to stay focused on this goal. Need to get to the end of this chemo stuff before I panic about the future. Had a difficult weekend after reading prognosis for ER-,PR- tumors. Did give myself a break and now know that even if I'd found this lump sooner, the situation would have been the same. For me, it's not the size, shape, placement or timing that matters. It's the lack of hormone receptors. Not a good prognosis in the long haul. But I have to get through this 'short' haul first.
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"most stuff tastes like metal, liberally rubbed down with bug spray"
An excellent description! LOL. Thankfully, the taste buds will come back after you're done with chemo. Another 'short haul' thing. {{{hugs}}} Hope you feel better.
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Bon, unless they have updated it recently, the cancer math site doesn't include the effect of Herceptin. I did look at it to help me understand why chemo was important for me (the curves for no chemo with my stats) but not for the benefit of chemo since Herceptin makes a big change in those numbers. You might look at the results of the BCIRG 006 study. In their third interim analysis, they broke out results for node negative cases in the study and the prognosis with TCH is really excellent. I think that is more important than being hormone negative or positive.
By the way, there is also a thread on Taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin with women at various stages of treatment. (Most on that thread have that drug combination but some with Cytoxin instead of Carboplatin also hang out there.) While the monthly chemo thread was very helpful to me, being able to talk to a group on the same chemo was also very useful.
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Bon, thank you for starting this thread! We're all in the same boat. I start chemo this Thurs. and I could've written your initial post. I'm trying to be brave, blah blah blah, and I write humorous emails to update friends, who congratulate me on my "bravery" and how much I inspire them as I joke about purchasing cool headgear as I'll soon become a conehead. What a load of b.s.
Okay, maybe not completely, but I find myself wanting to time travel to the year 2011 when I'll get to just recover after 4 rounds of A/C followed by 4 rounds of Taxotere. Then radiation.
I know many don't have too many SEs, but I have such a sensitive body that I'm concerned, to say the least. I don't get flu shots because I miss 2 days of work from how they flatten me. I try to avoid over-the-counter meds in general. And now I'm consenting to being poisoned?!
My husband keeps reminding me that this is saving my life. Oh, yeah ... that. All right then, here I go.
Thank you to Bon for starting this thread and to everyone who responded. You have all helped me so much. I'm ready to go forth. And, yes, there will be some degree of SEs, but I get the impression that it's never quite as bad as we imagine, because we imagine the absolute worst.
I'll check in and let you all know how I do. I can just hear me now: Wow, it sucks, but not totally! Who knew!?
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I am now feeling nearly human on day 7 after 2nd round of TCH. I've been hugging the sofa and trying to keep the SEs at bay. This time I think I was fully hydrated before, during and after the infusions and I avoided the debilitating headache. What a blessing to be able to breathe without wincing this time around.
Can't do water or fortified water any more. It just hit my stomach like lead by day 3 and was making me sicker. So I switched to flavored waters, decaf green tea, diluted juices, flat ginger ale. Even Popsicles. All gave me the fluid I needed and stayed down. That's more than half the battle. If you can't keep it in, it can't help.
So I'm eating and drinking whatever tastes, smells or sounds good to me. To heck with the healthy eating thing. Chemo is poison, after all, so right now I can't believe that favor additives, enhancers and the like will do me more damage today. I'm taking B-vitamins, Protonix for reflux, probiotics, fish oil and cinnamon, a bit of potassium to replace a fraction of what I'm losing with the drink and pee fest I've got going on here.
Did get a brief outing this morning and was able to walk on the beach for about 15 minutes. That's the first time I've been out in 7 days. It was fantastic and now it's my goal to go again in a few days when I'm not still so wobbly. Tromping through sand is tough enough. Tromping through sand in a chemo stagger is comical.
Sidebar...still have stubble on my head. Not totally bald yet. Using the sticky tape lint roller every day and wanting it to all be gone soon so it can start growing back! Oh, wore my Brett Michaels hat/wig to the beach today. Looked OK and stayed on in the wind. That thing is genius.
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Bon popped in to see how you were doing and glad to see you are finding your way! WELL DONE! Keep doing it! I like you ate and drank what sounded good. My husband would say "OK what do you want this time"? Chicken soup, burger and fries, stir fry whatever......... Milkshakes with malt in them were good too!
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WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT CHEMOTHERAPY SO FAR...
(either on my own, through this website's various forums or from friends and family...and in no particular order)
- Chemotherapy is not for sissies.
- There are an infinite number of chemo chemicals and almost as many different regimens for administration. Your plan for chemo will probably be different from that of someone else going through a similar situation. It is individually tailored to your needs. One isn't better that the other. It's just different.
-You have to trust your medical oncologist and the nurses administering the drugs. If you don't, move on. There are plenty of doctors and chemo centers who can do this important job for you. Remember those words...for you.
- The number of side effects are endless. Not all of them will happen to you.
- Everyone's experience with chemo is different. Some breeze through. Others have to tough it out. Whatever the case for you, take a deep breath and look ahead to better times. You can't fail chemotherapy. It isn't a test of your mettle. It's just something you have to do to keep cancer away.
- Keep up with fluids. Drink, drink, drink. It helps to flush the chemo out and keep your body functioning. I can't stress this enough. Stay hydrated all the time. Keep drinking and peeing.
- Avoid caffeine and alcohol. Water is good but flavored waters, dilute juices, even Popsicles, may keep you interested and that's the point.
-Be prepared for anything. Everyone reacts differently and the side effects and symptoms change over the course of your treatment. What was yesterday, may not be today or tomorrow.
- Ask about a port for infusion of the chemo. Get the facts about how it works and how it is inserted.
- Talk to your medical oncologist about having a supply of medications for indigestion, constipation, diarrhea, allergy, pain, nausea, etc. You may not need any of them, but having them on hand can't hurt. And don't take anything your doc hasn't authorized.
- Take some form of probiotics to aid with digestion. You can get it on many forms...even in yogurt now.
- If you have nausea or indigestion, you can't eat. Don't let either get hold of you.
- You'll be more tired than normal. Rest as much as you can. Napping is not just for children. Get an eye mask to block out the light, which helps with melatonin production.
- Have plenty of tissues and toilet paper on hand and keep pre-moistened wipes in the bathroom.
- Chemotherapy is my friend, not my enemy. Cancer is the enemy and chemo is my protection against a recurrence. It's cancer that has disrubted my life. The chemo is helping me get it back.
- It is emotional to lose your hair. And yes, at least 50% of the advertisements you see on TV or in print have to do with hair.
- Buzz your hair off before it falls out in clumps. Don't clip it closer that a #2 setting.
- Use a sticky-tape lint roller to deal with the stubble left on your head. It gets the prickly ones out and keeps your desk, pillow, table top, etc. from being 'dusted' with short hairs.
- Wigs are hot. In winter that may be a good thing. In summer it's just one more thing to gripe about. Try wearing one with a head band. You'll be amazed how much that helps do away with the wiggy look.
- An organization called The Gaila Fund gives free, luxurious hat-type wraps to cancer patients. Fill in the request form at http://www.gailafund.org/
- Wash your hands. Wash your hands. Wash your hands.
- Buy a supply of hand sanitizer in various sizes, place it all over the house, carry some with you, and use it.
- Ask your doctor before taking any supplements...I found that Vitamin B complex, a small dose of Potassium, Fish Oil, Cinnamon work for me. And Metamucil.
- Do try to eat some vegetables and red meat. I know it doesn't sound appetizing, but on days when you are actually hungry, try to get those in at least one meal. They will help rebuild your blood.
- Now is not a time to diet. Eat whatever you can. I crave Nabisco Sugar Wafers, macaroni and cheese, and chicken soup. Now I'm getting tired of soup.
- My OPINION: this isn't a time to worry about healthy eating, staying organic, or avoiding chemicals in foods. Chemotherapy is a series of poisons being infused right into your veins. It makes no sense whatsoever during this process to rigorously avoid flavor enhances, food dyes or additives. You have to eat to keep up your strength and if it looks, sounds and tastes good to you, eat it, additives and all.
- Fresh fruits and vegetables should be totally avoided in restaurants and used with caution at home. They are difficult to clean and could be contaminated with bacteria or fungus that you can't ward off while so immunosuppressed on chemo. If you must, and I MUST have lettuce, soak the veg in cold water with just a drop of bleach. Let it soak for a few minutes, agitate, and thoroughly dry in a salad spinner and then on paper towel before refrigerating. And wash the rind of all fruits and veggies before peeing them to avoid contamination from the skin through to the actual fruit.
- Smell everything before you taste it or have someone else verify that the food or drink is fit to eat...chemo makes your taste buds wacky and nothing tastes just right, good or bad. And if something is spoiled, you might not know just based on taste. I used spoiled milk on my cereal and couldn't tell by the taste at all. Only discovered it when I bent down to pick my napkin off the floor and my nose caught a whiff of the rotten milk.
- I was told not to dig in the garden or handle fresh flowers while immunosuppressed. Both could harbor fungus, bacteria or biting insects that could cause unnecessary trouble.
- Sing along to a happy song. Anything that is upbeat, moves your diaphragm, increases your air flow and gets you smiling is great. I prefer a rousing chorus of anything from Mama Mia.
- Carry a note pad and write things down. There's lots of information to absorb when you're faced with chemotherapy. Write down what you're told, what you need to remember and whatever questions you need to ask on your next visit with the oncologist.
- Don't get too much sun. Let it shine on you for a minute or two...it will boost your spirits. But don't stay in the sun and make sure to wear sunscreen and protective head coverings whenever you're out.
- Clorox has a solid surface cleaning and disinfectant spray. I have multiple bottles and use it in my floor steamer for an added punch.
- Ask questions. Don't be afraid to speak up. Ask away. Ask your docs, ask on this blogsite, ask anyone who might be able to give you the answer. I even phoned the manufacturer of a chemo drug to get clarification about the patient information they supplied. This is your life's journey..get the 'direction' you need. Ask, ask, ask.
- Learn to say "Thank you anyway, but NO ..." and "YES, thank you, I would like some help". Use them both for whatever fits. You have to be good to you and most people really want to help. They just need to be told how, when and what.
- Audio books are a blessing when you just can't concentrate enough to read or don't want to keep your eyes open. Most local libraries have loads of them you can borrow for free.
- Have an attitude of gratitude. Be grateful for every little thing anyone and everyone does for you. All gestures, big and small, are to be appreciated, cherished and remembered. Some day you can pay it forward with a card, a meal, a call, mail or a gift delivered to the door, a ride, a prayer, a shawl, a helping hand, a shoulder to lean or cry on.
- Surf sounds are so incredibly soothing. Find a download or CD of ocean waves and lull yourself into total relaxation. I even found a CD of just wind chimes that are also very calming to listen to.
- Stay away from crowds and anyone who may be contagious. Easier said than done, but your immune system is very compromised by chemo and you can't fight viruses and bacteria effectively. If you don't have to go to that movie, lecture, sermon, flea market, art show, convention, etc., don't go. It's not worth the risk. There will be plenty more events to attend when you are physically stronger.
- Applesauce helps to get all your pills down when it's difficult to swallow. Put your tablets or capsules in a small dish of unsweetened applesauce and spoon them down slowly. It works for kids so why not for you?
- Drawing on two evenly positioned eyebrows is harder than you'd think. Avon has Glimmersticks eyebrow pencils that go on smoothly and stay on all day, even in humidity.
- Aromas can soothe or energize. Pick a scent you like and take a minute to savor it. Use it when you need a pick-me-up or to wind down.
- As soon as you're feeling up to it, take a short walk. Try to do it every day, even if it's just around the yard, down the hallway, up the block. A little fresh air is beneficial, but don't go outdoors if the air quality is poor.
- Use a good moisturizing body wash every day and then lather on the moisturizing lotion a couple times a day. There are so many nice clean scents now that it's fun to pick and choose them and enjoyable to use them.
- Don't forget to moisturize your hands and feet every night at bedtime. Cuticles and nails take a beating during chemo.
- If you are having a manicure or pedicure, take your own 'tools' along to minimize the risk of infection. And tell the manicurist to work gently to prevent nicks, cuts and abrasions.
- Revlon's Post Trauma Nail Treatment might help preserve and/or repair your nails. And don't forget to oil your cuticles nightly.
- Brush your teeth 5 times a day. It will help take the nasty tastes away and keep your teeth and gums healthy during the chemo challenge.
- If you have dry mouth or get mouth sores, try Biotene mouthwash, toothpaste and gum.
- If you don't feel like talking when the phone rings, don't answer it. Save your strength until you want to chat.
- If you are shaky, don't drive. Find a ride. Call the American Cancer Society to arrange for transportation services ahead of time or call a friend. But don't drive. D-U-I-C... driving under the influence of chemo... can be as dangerous as drunk driving.
- Chemo fog is real. If you aren't thinking clearly don't sign contracts, write checks, pay bills, use power tools. Whatever it is can wait or you can ask someone to help you with it.
- Laugh. Watch, listen or read something to keep you laughing every day. It's necessary to promote good mental and physical health. Have at least one belly laugh every two hours. Laugh, laugh, laugh.
- Breastcancer.org is my lifeline. The scientific information on this site and the blog forums with women going through the same or similar experiences is what made all the difference for me. May they all be well.
- You don't have to be brave. You just have to show up.
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Wow, what a difference between your first post and now! You rock so hard and you absorbed that a helluva lot faster than I did. {{{hugs}}}
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Thank you Bon... I get port in July 26...I start chemo August 2nd...
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Sohaardbnme and riley702
Yes, I've come a long way from my first post on June 12th but it's only because I came to breastcancer.org and started reading and asking for help. I was floundering...and I still have my days. I got so down last week when I read the studies about survival rates for my tumor type, I was almost paralyzed.
And then it just dawned on me...I have to get through this before I can deal with that. Chemo is the 4th hurdle along the way in my cancer journey. The first was the diagnosis,then came the endless wait and tests, the surgery and now the chemo. Number 5 will be radiation. and 6 will be trying to live without fear.
I had to plan this 'trip', get myself ready mentally and physically and step out into traffic to begin each phase. God knows I hate having cancer. I want my life back. My BS is still the single most important factor for me being able to get past the diagnosis phase. I will be grateful to that man for the remainder of what I hope is a long and healthy life. But as they say, 'in for a penny, in for a pound' and once the road laid out in front of me I had to step off that curb.
The things I posted about what I've learned so far are in no way meant to infer that I'm not still terrified of chemotherapy. Because I am. It's scary stuff. I will be be in a mild panic as August 4th closes in and I get my next chemo infusion. But the panic is less. I've got that Doris Day "Que sera sera' thing going on this week.
Yep, this is one big songfest. My other favorite to describe this cancer journey is "minute by minute by minute...I'll be holding on". I close my eyes, envision Michael McDonald singing those lyrics and nod. This is a minute by minute journey...personally, I'd rather be in Paris!
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Ivorymom: Your words encourage me. Thank you! My first chemo went better than expected. I was completed terrified the day prior, but I felt very much at peace when it actually happened. My chemo nurse said, "Chemo is your friend." A good mindset and so true. the only reactions first day, which I know are relatively easy, are that I'm extremely groggy, goofy, and in good spirits. You may think this is totally weird, but a few hours after chemo, I told my hubby I wanted sex. Mostly for him. He seemed down, but I was totally into it. What is wrong with me?! Whatever, he's not complaining. I know this is the first day and all, but I just found that bizarre, but funny. I wonder if anyone else does that.
Okay, enough babbling. Oh, and I have zero appetite, but I'll try to make myself eat. And Ivorymom, you and I have the same exact treatment, but for whatever reason, my onc felt I wuold do better without a port 'cause I have gorgeous veins. At least something will "look good" when I shed the hair.
I was okay with the IV in my arm. It just didn't hurt and the actual chemo took only one hour. I loved talking to the other women in the room and didn't even dip into my chemo bag. All in all, this first chemo was a good experience. Better than I'd expected. I know tomorrow may be a different story, but I've got my meds and most importantly, my spirits are high. I imagine they put some happy juice in the IV.
Next week, I have to go in 3 days in a row for a Neulasta shot. Actually, the Neulasta specifically, but the grandfather drug. I hope I do well. Plus I have to work on M, W, and F. Hoping I do well. My onc and nurse said to erase from my mind everything I've read and heard about SEs. Uh, okay ,,,
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Bon--I too was terrified of chemo because my Mom died of Lung cancer 20 years ago and went through a bad time with chemo. I kept hearing things are different now but I was terrified. I was diagnosed stage IV ibc w/ bone mets last June 09. I went through 8 months of chemo, taxotere & cytoxin as well as adriamyacin. I had no pain as I had a port installed. The only drawback was the extreme exhaustion. I went every 3 weeks and only had a little over 1 week a month where I felt I had normal energy. Talk to your doctor about any complications. I had nose bleeds and my eyes started watering a lot. I could not keep on makeup. Benedryl helped with some of this. I took B12 tablets for energy and melatonin helped me with sleep instead of taking sleeping pills. I still take them today. I took decadron & Emend while on chemo to combat nauseousness. I was never nauseous.
I had a few stage IV diagnoses from the start- inflammatory bc & bone mets on my spine & femur as well as a 3.5cm tumor. If I did not do chemo--I would not be hear today writing this. I'm stable now and continue on zometa & femara because I'm ER+. You can do this.
Hugs,
Terri
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Terri, I am humbled by your experience and grateful for your encouragement, especially in light of what you have faced. I know I can do this, I just have to embrace chemo as my friend. Until now I've been looking at both cancer and chemo as the enemy...all evil stuff. Now I see it differently.Thank you.
My symptoms on chemo arn't nearly as outrageous as some of the other poor women I hear about. But when they are happening it's difficult to be grateful that something rates a 6 on the annoyance scale rather than a 10. Still, I'm learning to be grateful when each SE isn't as bad as the last time around.
My prayers are for your continued stability and for your enjoyment of life. My sincerest thanks for writing. Hugs to you, back. Bon
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And Eileen...YOU GO GIRL!
I'm so glad that your first round of chemo wasn't a horror story. Just please remember to drink like a mink today...hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. I think that may have been where I went wrong after my first chemo. I had such an uneventful infusion day that I pushed on like it was business as usual for 48 hrs. Then I got slammed. So drink, drink, drink.
Today's song is "Come on Eileen....". Those lyrics are suggestive of your post chemo romp. Is that your new ringtone?
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Bon, as everyone said, it is doable, very doable. I had a friend who called me Twinky because most of the time I felt so victorious, one step at a time. I only called her when I did melt down-it made her day! My cancer is so rare that it is almost unheard of, so I got the hardest regimen of chemo and radiation possible. Chemo Monday, Yoga Monday night, Weight lifting Tuesday and Thursday, and ran my own business. The only problem was constipation and leg pain, all manageable with medical help. Even fatigue was gradual. My friends call chemo "Chemo Lounge", reminding me that while they were working I was relaxing, watching movies, reading, eating - which I was! Gatorade helps with the metallic taste, popsicles help immensely with mouth sores during chemo, and a solution of 1/2 T salt and 1/2 T baking soda in a quart of water swished in your mouth several times a day will beat sores. Eat Yogurt-it replenishes the bacteria you need in your gut so you won't get nauseous. Like so many others, that was not a problem with me either. And last, I got the all clear yesterday, after knowing that I had only a 50 % chance of making it two years! This will be you. It goes fast.
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I'm an odd bird - but we knew that before cancer invited itself into my life - LOL
Apparently I look forward to new things and after that first hour or so of shock .... I looked at this as an adventure (and still do). I was actually looking forward to my first round of chemo! I was excited about getting started. I had confidence it's what I need to get better and was so ready to get on with the show! My BP is usually pretty low, somewhere in the 100/70 range. The morning of my first treatment I was wound like an 8/day clock! I knew when she took my bp it would be high and told the gal that. She said sympathetically "ohhh... are you nervous?" and I said "no, I'm excited!" and my friend that goes to all my appointments confirmed my (slightly odd) attitude. BP was 130/86 I think.
This coming Tuesday will be round 2 and I've told friends I'm not nearly as excited as I was the first time - LOL. The process itself wasn't bad at all, I was on my laptop, playing on facebook and other sites through much of it, visiting with my friend as well. This week another girlfriend is going with me & bringing her 4/yo daughter .... that should make for a nice distraction
Headache and nausea were my biggest foe that night, but the following days were decent. I agree with the drink, drink, drink and flush that crud outta there!
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Platinum 111...WOW! Fantastic news for you and for the rest of us, too. I celebrate your victory! I'm so thrilled for you.
Thanks for writing and telling of your trials and success. It helps me look forward more positively and I know it will help everyone else who reads along on this forum.
Hugs and cheers...here's to your continued good health.
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