Chemo June 2010

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  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited July 2010

    NorthernGirl and Everyone- thanks so much, you ARE like sisters to me, like I've never had.

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited July 2010

    Did anyone get any info on taxol 12 weekly vs. taxol 4 bi-weekly...? I'm doing weekly T + herceptin 12.

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited July 2010

    isla, hahahaha, thats too funny!!! yess i think ill run out and try and creat some stress for myself.... hmmm, where can i find some stress?!? Tongue out

    Rs711, im gonna be on Taxol once a week for 12 weeks, my ONC said the SE were much easier on you once a week, i just want whatever is faster!!!

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2010

    'Mild stress' huh?  well I guess I must just be living right as my parents arrive on Tuesday and yesterday my sister-in-law called out of the blue and wants to stay with us Wednesday night.  So of course my DH had to tell her that I have BC, not something we were planning on.  So i guess I'll be cleaning the whole house this weekend ready for the guests.  Oh, and i'm on a new project at work that looks like an absolute death-march, I think some executive pulled the due date out of thin air, there's just no possibility of making the date.  It's been making me think about quitting work or applying to go out on disability (a benefit i have available to me).  Then Monday I have TC treatment #2, so with all that mild stress i guess I don't have to worry about cancer anymore :-)

     Julia

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited July 2010

    Rs711-->My onc said the same as Cheyenna's--easier se's.  But for some reason neuropathy can be worse?  Because I still have neuropathy from my last chemo (which ended 6 months ago), I might have to do Taxol every 2 wks instead.  I'll be starting taxol end of Aug., and we are waiting until then to decide what to do.

  • brat352
    brat352 Member Posts: 41
    edited July 2010

    Hello ladies!

    Well, I spoke too soon!  Was walking across the parking lot to my car last Thursday (7/2) and started feeling very "wuzzy" (wobbly and fuzzy).  By the time I got back home the diarhhea began.  All Saturday night and all day Sunday I felt horrible.  The Lomotil the MD gave me doesn't work at all (unless I take 3 pills instead of 1, and then just slow it down a little).  The only thing I have found that works pretty well is FloraStor (at $21.00 a box!).  Things have slowed down now, but it's not perfect.

    And...my hair is almost completely gone!  Cry  But the MD did say "it will happen" didn't he?  I hate for him to be right (about the hair, not my dx!)

    I have posted some pics on Photobucket if you care to look at me post Chemo, one with bald head and one with new wigs on (pictures are bad as I took them from my cell phone with no makeup, etc).:

    http://s875.photobucket.com/albums/ab316/brat352/chemo%20Deb/

    It's times like these that I wish I had someone sleeping next to me.  Evey night my upper back gets so tender and achy I just want someone to rub it for me!  Seems to be running a low grade fever (97.7) so that probably explains why I feel like cr*p.  My blood work keeps getting worse, so hopefully by my 3rd tx, it won't be so low I can't have my tx (next to last tx!!!).

    White blood count 6/23 (1st tx) was 4.3 (averages should be between 4.5 and 10.5)
    White blood count 6/31 (2nd tx) was 22.0 (yikes!)

    Sure hope it doesnt' fall too much more!  Anyone know how to increase you white blood cell rate?

    Well, I hope you all have a wonderful weekend - stay happy, healthy and keep your spirits up!

    Deb

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited July 2010

    dsa - I have terrible acid reflux - from Emend and other stuff - so my onc prescribed Ranitidine, which is generic for some well known acid reflux drug.  It has been god-send.  I tried Priolosec but it didn't hep me.  Also make sure you don't get thrush (if your tongue is white, you may have it) - and if you do get your onc to give you pills that you can suck.  Both of them helped me a lot with eating, etc. 

     To everyone - Just got AC#3 yesterday and feel like I got hit by a truck, but nausea is under control thank goodness.Staayiing ahead of the nausae with medication sure helps.

  • momof2kidz
    momof2kidz Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2010

    Brat352 - Thank you for sharing your pics.  You look great in both wigs.  I am on day 18 since my first treatment and still no hair loss.  I know it won't be much longer. 

  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited July 2010

    I'm joining the Hair Club for Chemo Sistahs this morning.  I keep telling myself "it's only hair" but so far it ain't working for me lol.

     I gave myself an all-over haircut to about 2" this morning and it doesn't look bad (in front at least, no way am I looking in a mirror at the back!) I think tomorrow will be the day for the big shearing party.

     I hope today finds everyone well and as free from SEs as possible. Have a great weekend, Pink Sistahs!

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2010

    Isla,

    Where in NZ are you?  We visited the North Island about 5 years ago, loved it, going back to visit the South island is deffinitely in my plans for post-chemo.  It is such a lovely country.

    Julia 

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited July 2010

    Allright got a funny bald head story for you all  I have a tendency to for go a hat or scarf on while I  am in the house.  I am home alone most days and it's much cooler without as many of you know.  Well, I have a tendency to "forget" my cover (hat, scarf or wig) when I go to the front door.  Last week I scared the UPS guy when I answered the door.  His reaction was priceless - "Jackie.....um it is you right?"  (yea he comes by a lot)  Well, today I didn't think about it and marched out to the mailbox to put mail in it.  Not only did I scare the guys doing some yardwork at the neighbors next door with my beautiful gleeming head I managed to get something on my head.  I just brushed it off.  Well, guess what it was a mosquito.  So, now  I have a big knot on my head.  Surprised   Well, at least it doesn't itch!

    Keep smiling ladies! 

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited July 2010

    rolling meadows, i seem to always be running a temp like that as well, ONC dont seem to be worried unless it is 101.5.. im fighting a cold sore i wonder if that might be the fever, im at my low this weekend. i have my third AC on friday, anyone lose any weight?

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited July 2010

    cheyenna-  My Onc said to call if my temp was 100.4.  Haven't you been running a temp for quite a few days?  Has it been 101.5?  I would call your Onc and let them know.  They may want bloodwork.  If they don't, at least they are aware of your temp.  I just saw on Dr. Oz to place used teabags on cold sores (like when you make a cup of tea).  I think the tannic acid in the tea helps.  Worth a try!  Hope you feel better.  Don't hesitate to call your Onc, even if it is just to get reassurance.

    brat352-  Good for you!  Thanks for sharing.  I couldn't tell you weren't wearing makeup, never saw you with makeup!

    grneyed-  Hah!  Nothing like shock effect.  I hope your neighbors, UPS people, postman have strong hearts.  The thought of it made me giggle.

  • mimi9186
    mimi9186 Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2010

    Brat352, My white counts were low last time and I just barely got chemo done.  I told the onc that I ate right and exercised everyday to try and keep them up.  She  said "you have no control over it. You can stand on your head and whistle Dixey and it won't help."  It made me feel better.

    Come on Kaycee, join the Hair club for chemo sisthas! you will get used to it.  We would love a picture of your self cut 2" do...... please?

    Hugs, Mimi

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2010

    Oh DesignerMom, I got a good laugh!  As if we don't look bad enough bald or balding, now we have to stick teabags on our faces? LOL, will the indignities never end!

    Julia

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited July 2010
    dm, yes i let them know she wants me to trac it till i see her on wednesday,, just another thing to worry about...this sucks!!!
  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited July 2010

    Good morning. I did ask this question before and didn't get any response, but I thought I'd try again....did anyone experience debilitating headaches after Cytoxan and Taxotere+ Herceptin? I also got Decadron IV that first day, along with Aloxi for nausea. The headache started day 3 after the first round and lasted until day 11. I've now had 4  days without a headache, today makes day 5. And I have another chemo scheduled for this Wednesday.

    Someone suggested on another blog that it might have something to do with the Decadron dosage and sudden withdrawal. Whatever it is, I just can't take the headaches and stiff neck for another 3 or 5 rounds. I truly won't make it.

    I get violently ill from morphine, Demerol, codeine, Darvon, percoset (SP) etc. They tell me that oxycodone can potentially do the same thing to me and that Darvocet may work, I'll take that this go around.

    But did anyone else get these headaches and stiff neck?  Thanks for any suggestions you may have.  Bon

  • brat352
    brat352 Member Posts: 41
    edited July 2010

    Hi Bon!

    After my first treatment of Cytoxan/Taxotere I had a very minor, but very annoying (on a scale of 1 to 10, mine was a 0.5), headache for about 2 weeks.  Took Aleve daily and it helped.  You may want to tell the person administering the drug to SLOW DOWN the volume on the Cytoxan.  That should help.

    My second treatment was given to me slower and no headache!  Just a lot of diarhhea - yuch!

  • mironchik
    mironchik Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2010

    iHi. just had my first TC (total 4) on June 24th, next one July 15th

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited July 2010

    Bon, I was told to let the nurse know if I felt any headache or congestion as I was getting the Cytoxan.  She said some people get headaches from it and she would slow it down if needed.  So maybe, like brat said, its the cytoxan.  Although, since it started 3 days later, maybe it is the decadron?  Hopefully your onc or nurses will have an idea so it won't happen again!  Sorry, I guess I wasn't much help! Tongue out

    toni--hope you are doing ok today!

    grneyd--too funny!!  I too ran down and opened the door for the mailman without even thinking about my hair.  No big bald spots at the time, but very thin and my new choppy, short haircut.  Guess what he was delivering?  My package from Headcovers.com.  He hands it to me and says something for the husband, huh?  I looked at him to see if he was joking (he wasnt) and said no, its for me, I'm losing my hair from chemo.  He finally really looked at me, and then was kind enough to ask how I was doing. He's such an oddball!  I pretty much keep a scarf on all the time now--not much hair left at all!

    Thanks, ladies, for sharing the funny stories!

    Tina

  • mironchik
    mironchik Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2010

    Designer Mom,

    I had tempreture on day 3,4 and 5 after my fisrst TC. Itwas 37.8 (sorry dunno what is in terms of 100s) I also had rash and what i found out that the tempreture was because i develop an allergic reaction. while i was still taking steroids on day 1 and 2 it was fine, but as soon as i stopped the steroids i got temp. it was very unpleasant - i even had to go to emergency to check if i got infection. Anyway it turned out that as soon as i got back on steroids(3 more days) and some antihestamine  for another 7 days - i was fine,- no rash no temp.  

  • CEBsMom
    CEBsMom Member Posts: 28
    edited July 2010

    Hi All,

    I asked for a copy OncoType Dx Test--IT SAYS I HAVE TRIPLE NEGATIVE BC!  The prior tests said I was ER+.  Can test results be THAT different?  I've already taken one round of TC and am scheduled for the second on Monday.  I'm really scared and confused.  AM I ON THE WRONG CHEMO????  Does this negate the Oncotype test which was 50 but the Oncotype is looking at ER + BC? 

    They mailed my results--I don't think they should have done that w/o talking to me first!! The nurse left me a voice mail but by the time I called her back she was gone for the day.  

     I also asked for a copy of my labs--my baseline were normal, but on the day of my chemo (before I got the chemo) my BUN and Creat were high and Na and Cl were low.  These labs generally reflect kidney function.  This is BEFORE the chemo.  I've gone back for two CBCs and they've not anymore Chem 20s to check BUN and Creat again.

     I'm really confused and really, really scared.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited July 2010

    cebsmom-  Wow!  I bet you are confused!  My first thought is make SURE they sent you the right report.  Look for your name on the Oncotype test.  The Oncotype lab is VERY nice and helpful explaining the report. Their phone is on the report.  I don't know if they are there on a Saturday, but it sure is worth a try.  I would also think that this would be a TOTALLY legitimate reason to call your Onc's service on the weekend and tell him your concerns.  Especially as you are scheduled for chemo Monday, he will understand.  You need this all clarified before proceeding with your chemo ESPECIALLY if you might have to change.  This must be awful for you.  Let us know what you find out.

    chey-  good your are tracking your temps.  You will get through this, just like all the other things!

    Bon-  I could see how that would not be easy to take.  I know a lot of ladies have as bad or worse SE from the steroids.  As you appear to be sensitive to meds, it could be the steroids.  I'm wondering if there is a thread on here for Cytoxan, Taxotere+Herceptin users.  You could get a lot of long-term info if there is.  I know the CMF thread has been going since 2006 and I have learned so much there. 

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited July 2010
    bon, i was told by my onc that my compazine will give me headaches and they do, for about a week
  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited July 2010

    For CEBsMom:

    I don't blame you for being scared, but try not to panic and do not google Triple Negative  BC. A lot of the information out there is terrifying but out of date. Also, the error could as easily have been by the oncotype test as by your original pathologist, so you may not be triple negative.

    I am triple negative and am on the exact same chemo regime as you. I notice we are both Stage 1, so perhaps this would have been your course of treatment anyway? 

    Can you reach your onc on weekends? I think something this unsettling justifies a weekend call.

     Hugs,

    Kaycee

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited July 2010

    Okay, I'm frutrated.  Maybe one of you can help.  Out of curiosity, I went to the breastcancer.org fundraising auction.  I assumed these would all be big ticket items (vacations hotels etc....)  I was surprised that there were very few items offered (only 26 including single t shirts etc...).  As I design baby and kids gifts and have an online store, I wanted to donate some things for the cause.  I spent 20 minutes trying to find a way to contact someone, ANYONE at breastcancer.org.  I know there are moderators, how do we contact someone? 

  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited July 2010

    DesignerMom:

    Try the "Report This Post" link on any post on the thread. It "should" give you an area for explanation, and you can ask your question about contact info there.

     

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2010

    CEBsMom,

    My oncotype showed me only very weakly ER+.  My pathology has gone like this:

    Biopsy: ER+35%, PR+13%, HER2/Neu negative.

    Lumpectomy pathology: ER+ 36%, PR-, HER2/Neu Negative

    2nd opinion lumpectomy pathology (Mayo Clinic): ER+25%, PR-, HER2Neu Negative

    Oncotype pathology: ER+ 7.1 (very weak positive), PR-, HER2Neu negative

    I too have a high Oncotype score (33).  I too have wondered it I'm really closer to TN than ER+.  I'm on TCx4 too.

    Julia

  • CEBsMom
    CEBsMom Member Posts: 28
    edited July 2010

    Thanks kacee, DesignerMom and Julia for your responses!  I am a little calmer now.  It just blew my mind they would mail me something like that w/o talking to me first.  I'm seeing them on Monday so they could have waited and gave them to me then w/ an explanation!  I didn't ask them to mail them--just asked for copies.... 

    Again, I appreciate your kind and quick responses!! 

    Back to the more mundane things like shaving my head!  It's amazing how priorities shift so quickly w/ this crappy dz!!!

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited July 2010

    Hi DesignerMom, I went to the auction site, and on the left there is a button you can use to donate items for the auction. Maybe you can use this button to contact someone?

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