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  • shygal
    shygal Member Posts: 89
    edited July 2010

    Caltex, pls mark me done for chemo.  I'm now 3 weeks PFC and those nasty little chins hairs have started to come back. Surprised  I guess that's a good sign but certainly no new hair growth on my head.  My hair fluff that never fell out has turned white and has grown considerably since I started.  I think that it's around 5 or 6 weeks PFC that I'm expecting to see some stubble on my head.....let's hope so.  I am so over this bald head thing!

    I have Rads starting in another week and I go for 21 times as I had already had a lumpectomy and SNB in February.

    My continuing SE's include watery eyes, eye twitching, annoying hot flashes (esp at night) burning lips (this only started after #3) and I still have a funny taste in my mouth.  I also noticed that I have three horizontal lines in my nail beds.  The good news is that I'm off all meds and hoping that the chemo toxins are slowing dissipating.

    Happy 4th of July to our American sisters. 

  • marcy4
    marcy4 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2010

    Glad to hear so many of you ladies are finished, or almost done.  I am with the group tagging along at the end.  I have 8 more weeks to finish off my weekly Taxol. If things stay on track Chemo should be done by the end of August with rads to follow.  My surgery was also done in February so at least that is one thing out of the way. I have a nasty chest cold and some sinus issues but other than that doing fine.  I hope everyone is enjoying the great weather.  It is hot here with beautiful sunshine.  Looking forward to supper on the patio and perhaps a campfire in the backyard to finish up.  Summer is wonderful!

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited July 2010

    I just wanted to take a moment to wish all of my American sisters a Happy 4th of July!

  • kad22
    kad22 Member Posts: 191
    edited July 2010

    well it looks like I may be that last to finish up - I will end Taxol the end of Sept. - Yuck!

    I had surgery first - no lymph nodes and clear margins - which means no rads for me - thank the lord! Sometimes I just think I may not be strong enough for this then I think of all the little children dealing with cancer and know I can do it.

    shygal - I too am sooo over this bald thing. So today I am wearing to the park my shirt that says "Cute bald chick Kickin' Cancer's butt" and wearing a baseball cap!

    My eyebrows are almost gone with my eyelashes I too was hoping to not lose them.

    Well tomorrow is the first of my Taxol's - thanks for the encouragement! I will hopefully be back telling you all it was a breeze!

  • SGJ05
    SGJ05 Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2010

    Wow, lots of us doing rads., we will have to start a thread in the rads forum:) For those of you who are starting or started, keep us posted on any side effects you are having and any advice you have, I am anxious to know what to expect.

    And as for the bald thing, I am soooooooo over it too! At first it wasn't a big deal, but now I just ready to have hair and feel normal. I bought a wig, but it is too hot to wear it everyday:( And as for my eye brows  and eye lashes, they are thinning at a fast pace--I believe after my next cycle they will be gone too. Hopefully once we are done with chemo. our hair will grow back quickly and this bald thing will be a distant memory!

     Kad22-- Good Luck tomorrow!!! I hope everything runs smoothly and you have absolutely no side effects!! I think it is wonderful that you are giving Taxol a chance to kick cancer's behind! Keep us posted on how things went:)

    I hope everyone is enjoying this weekend!!!

  • Emme
    Emme Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2010

    Happy 4th Sisters!

    Good Luck tomorrow Kad!  I hope everything goes well for you and you have NO SE.

    I am with you too on the baldness...My Nephew stopped by  Friday and called me Uncle Fester...I was laughing...the wigs are too hot in the summer and when I get a hot flash...watch out I want my head in the wind...Do any of you go bald in public?  I wish I was ballsy enough to do that!

    Good luck to all of you having tx this week...my prayers are with you.

    Em

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited July 2010

    Kad22 - You wont be the last to finish I will be right behind you.  I should be finishing Taxol mid October.  I start on July 29th.  Let me know how it goes and best of luck for and SE free and uneventful infusion.

    Jen

  • saralmom
    saralmom Member Posts: 329
    edited July 2010

    About the bad thing - this weekend has been a hard one with that.  It's been cray hot here in Michigan, and we have had a few events at our pool club, fireworks, etc.  I have been slow to tell all about the cancer - mostly just friends and family still.  And I've been wearing the wig in public in most cases.  At home  I wear a scarf but my kids have been pretty clear that they prefer that I have hair in public.  I feel bad for them so I've complied.  There is a woman at our pool club who is in treatment too - I don't know her and haven't talked to her but she is one of the brave ones who wears a scarf, a hat, or just goes bald all the time.  I'm so envious of her courage to do that.  I feel like I'm weak and self conscious for putting on fake hair.  So Saturday I wore a print scarf AND a big sun hat out, and it was fine.  I'm trying to be more brave about it.  But yes, I am so over having to deal with all that.

  • Char2010
    Char2010 Member Posts: 532
    edited July 2010

    Sara - I understand.  I have been wearing a wig when in public and at home when I have company - I live alone - well actually with two cats, but they don't care:-)  I finished chemo on June 18th and can't wait to get my hair back.  I know it will take a while before I go about without a wig but I just hate looking at my bald head.

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited July 2010

    Sara and Char, I'm with you.  I don't even want to go in the backyard because I feel self conscious.   We aren't close to our neigbours, I have only told one of them about my cancer.  I am quite comfortable not covering up in the house, my family and dog don't mind, but I won't leave the house without covering up.  Even though it's hot, I find that wearing my wig draws less attention than a hat or scarf does.  I want to feel as normal as possible with how I look.  I don't think that it's a sign of weakness, we all have our own level of comfort.  I admire those women who can go bald in public, but I don't think that I will ever be one of them.  

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited July 2010

    Congratulations to everyone that has finished Chemo!  That is awesome news!   I am due to be finished on August 12th.  I am not sure about rads yet, I have to got to Sloane for a consultation after chemo to see if they think I will benefit from it.  I am hoping not, I too am ready to be done with this and to get my life back.

    I had my first Taxol on Thursday and besides getting a rush from the Benedryl and then taking a nap, everything went as expected.  I was surprised on Saturday when I woke up from my nap (I have been doing a lot of napping since my treatment) that I am really achy in my hips and legs.  It doesn't really hurt but is just uncomfortable and I feel like I have restless legs.  I can't sit or stand too much at one time.   Nothing is working to stop the achiness or to allow me to sleep now that I have it..  I have tried Dalaudid, Aleve, Advil and Tylenol and only the advil seems to take the edge off of it, my sleeping pill doesn't help at night either.  Last night I woke up 4 times before 6 am because my legs were bothering me and each time I had to go the bathroom (who would have thought one person could pee that much in one night!).   Is anyone else on Taxol getting these side effects?  I am hoping tomorrow is better!

  • toughmom38
    toughmom38 Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2010

    OK day #5 after treatment #5 and I'm thinking I don't know if I can do this one more time.  This was by far the worst I've ever felt, day #4 being the absolute worst.  I hurt all over and fingertips are getting sore, nothing terrible, just have trouble opening jars and bags.  VERY tired, slept alot Sat, Sun and this morning.  I am really sick of hot flashes, especially since the the temp was 95 today, have been putting ice packs on my neck and head to cool down. 

    I wish I could go out with a bald head but like most of you I just can't bring myself to do it.  I just want my hair back and I will NEVER complain about a bad hair day again as long as I live.  I had very long thick hair and I used to complain that it was hot but what I wouldn't give to have it all back right now.

    Best of luck to everyone with treatments this week!!!  {{{HUGS}}}Wink

    Jennifer

  • SGJ05
    SGJ05 Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2010

    toughmom- You are taxotere, carboplatin, herceptin too, right? I have to say that #5 was by far my worst. I had really awful neuropathy in my left arm, was exhausted and the hot flashes-UGH!!! I am questioning if I can make it through my last one as well, but know I have to do it!! Only one more, just keep telling yourself that:) I hope you start feeling better soon.

    Good Luck to those of you having treatments this week!! I hope you all remain side effect free:)

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited July 2010

    Toughmom and SGJ05, hang in there, you ae so close to the finish line!  YOU CAN DO IT!!!!  And just think, you will have a smiley face next to your names.

    I had taxotere last Tuesday (#1 of 3) and this past weekend was awful.  There was not one part of me that wasn't achy, between the muscle aches from the T and the bone pain from the Neupogen.  I woke up crying on Sunday morning, and I usually have a pretty high pain threshold.  I can't imagine it getting worse, I hope it doesn't.  I had some T3's left over from my surgery, and I took them, which helped, especially at bedtime.  Thank goodness.  Next cycle I am just going to start taking something before the aches kick in.

    Have a good week everyone.

  • caltex_catlady
    caltex_catlady Member Posts: 136
    edited July 2010

    To those of you having pain from taxol or taxotere, you're not alone. I've had two taxol treatments (#3 of 4 is tomorrow), and I've had bad aches and pains both times. And that started before beginning the Neupogen shots each cycle, so I know it's the taxol. I should know by now that if a doctor says I'll have some pain, I'll actually have a lot of pain. Just a low pain threshold, maybe. I got a refill of my leftover vicodin from my surgery, and now I take some when the pain starts rather than letting it get a foothold. It doesn't completely go away, but it's a lot better. But I do end up feeling bad for about a week.

    For me, the taxol pain is all over my body but especially in my legs. My shins ached all the time, and my thighs felt like the bone would crumble.

    I've had noticeable neuropathy in my fingers for about a week and off-and-on in my feet during that time. It's not so much pain as hypersensitivity as well as numbness (if that makes sense), and I do need help getting some bottle caps off.

    And LauraM, I know what you mean about having to go to the bathroom several times a night. I wake up to change positions then feel like I have to go right away. I think the taxol/neuropathy can affect nerves in other areas besides fingers and toes.

    Good luck this week, everybody.

    Karen

  • kad22
    kad22 Member Posts: 191
    edited July 2010

    Hi all,

    Well yesterday the Taxol went great. I went to a new hospital to get away from those old feelings and the smell! I had only two sticks, one for blood and the other to get my IV in! Yeah! The Benadryl knocked me out - WOW! I was just sitting there and then all of a sudden I was down for the count! It was good though because I slept the whole treatment! Today I am fine but worry about day 3 and 4 hopefully everything will go ok.

    Toughmom and SGJ05 - YOU CAN DO IT! Just one more!!  You are both strong women and will conquer this! One more and you are done - YEAH!

    I do go out more and more with just a scarf or hat on - it is too hot to wear my wig. People stare but o-well. As long as my husband and 15 yr. old daughter are fine with it then I do it.

    Jenc - good luck starting Taxol. Too bad we are the few to finish up last. We can do it!

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited July 2010

    Kad22 - Thanks for sharing yout Taxol experience.  Hopefully all goes well throughout. 

     I hardly ever wear my wig, like you said Kad it is to hot.  I usually wear a hat, (I got some really cute ones) but at home ala natural.  My son thinks it is funny (hes 5) and has no issues with it.  Good luck to all treating this week.  Almost to the finish line. Laughing

  • mmcmahan
    mmcmahan Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2010
    Hi all,Just finished 2nd Taxol.  Had lots of pain with the first one.  Joints...mostly hip and knees, some shoulders and elbows too.  I am hoping it isn't as bad this time.  I am trying stronger pain meds this time.  AC was a breeze compared to this.  I haven't missed any work all along, but I stayed home one morning 1/2 day just to because of the pain.  Anyone done accupuncture for pain?  Other suggestions for pain meds?I do go totally bald all the time.  I thought having no hair would really bother me, but it doesn't at all.  Sometimes the stairs get a little annoying, but most of the time I don't even think about.  It is second nature anymore.  I did wear a hat to my 10 yr college reunion (mostly to avoid lots of questions, most people know from pictures posted on FB) and I have a wedding coming up that I might wear a scarf too.  I don't own a wig, so we'll see what I decide.Congrats to those of you who are done.  I am counting the days at this point.  Only two more rounds left!  Last chemo Aug. 2 then surgery likely Aug 23 or 24.  I meet with the surgeon in two weeks.  To get through each one, we try to make chemo fun each time..."Club Chemo" as my friend calls.  My best girlfriend and sister come each time (my husband comes to the doctors appts but goes back to work) and we have "guest appearances" from our other friends!  Never a dull moment.  I also wear a new outfit each time.  I figure if I have to be bald, I may as well be cute doing it...and a little retail therapy never hurts!!   Someone commented about me being young and I can't remember...to answer, I am 31.  I was actually still breastfeeding my son when I found the lump.  I thought it was a clogged milk duct...boy was I wrong!!  Anyway, I happen to be a pediatric onc nurse, so unfortunately I know more than I would ever like to about this stuff.  But for whoever commented about kids going through this, you are right.  They are such an inspiration to me.  I figure if they can do this and even worse, I can do it too.  I see them go on with their normal lives every day, so that is what I do.  Try to live life as normal as possible and deal with SEs on the side.  Sorry for the rambling post...not much time to write at home when I am usually chasing a 13 month old around!!  I do read all of the posts though and appreciate everyones comments and stories.  I find it therapeutic!Meredith 
  • marcy4
    marcy4 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2010

    Went to see my oncologist today to get the details on Hereptin being added into my drugs.  I thought I had 8 weeks left but he wants me to do 12.  He has never seen a case like mine before and said this drug regeim is the best he can come with, but has never seen it used before anywhere.  The good thing is he knows me quite well.  I have had one FEC, one AC, one Taxol + Cyclophosamide, and 2 weekly Taxols alone up until now.  I will now continue with 3 more rounds of Taxol+Cyclophosamide+ Hereptin followed by 2 weekly Taxols.  He is hoping that he can get this much into me. He feels this will give me 6 cycles and hopefully will do the trick.  He said will will monitor SEs and see how much I can take.  I am to have 6 weeks radiation to follow.  Finishing by Christmas is the goal. I am lucky to have great Chemo nurses since it looks like I will get to know them really well.  Best of luck to everyone else.  This certainly is an adventure!

  • dutchgirl6
    dutchgirl6 Member Posts: 673
    edited July 2010
    Marcy, you certainly are in it for the long haul!  I hope that the new cocktail that your onc has devised finally does what it needs to do.  You will deserve a medal at the end of it all, or maybe just a nice Christmas with your family, and all the treatment madness behind you!  Hang in there. 
  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited July 2010

    March4 - best of luck with your new regimine.  I hope it works for you and you can get through this quickly.  I to will be done for christmas (pending no more delays).  Something to look forward to I guess.  I was supposed to be done by the middle of August now it looks like the middle of October.  Oh well, take it as it comes. 

    Hoep you all are having an SE free week.

  • Emme
    Emme Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2010

    Toughmom and SGJ05~Hang in there, before you know it the Chemo will be over.  You can do this!  Take it one day at a time...one foot infront of the other...you will be there before you know it.

    I had taxol in January and February.  I had leg acheson my 3-5th days...my thighs hurt like crazy. I took darvocet.  It seemed to help make the pain managable.  I have problems with so many pain meds...if i could have had something stronger I would have gone for it.  Don't be afraid to ask your onc for something for the pain.

    I have a muga scan today to check out how my heart faired thru the adrymycin.  See if I can withstand the herceptin. 

    Have a gred day everyone.  Try to stay cool.

    Em

  • saralmom
    saralmom Member Posts: 329
    edited July 2010

    Emme - I had my MUGA yesterday for the same reasons.  Hoping the scan shows nothing weird b/c I really want to be able to do the Herceptin for the year.

    Hope everyone is having a good day.

    Sara 

  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited July 2010

    Question on TE's.  I had my implant removed because of thin skin and a TE is now being used.  Only filled to 100cc's for now until chemo is done to make sure no further problems.  is is normal to have tightness with the TE and a wierd shape when it is not filled much?  I had tightness with the implant but that was at 450cc so this is alot less but still some tightening.  Does it get tight ever time it is filled to?  Just wanted some imput so I know what to expect.  Hope everyone had a good day.

    Jen

  • toughmom38
    toughmom38 Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2010

    JenC- Yes, TEs start out with a funky shape and even have sharp edges until they get filled quite a bit.  After my BMX with reconstruction my PS filled me to 240cc during surgery and they were constantly poking at me because they were barely filled.  I'm at 550cc now (waiting for chemo to be over so I can make them begone!) and they are just very hard like rocks now, but no sharp edges.  They are less painful now that they are filled up, but no less uncomfortable. 

    Happy Friday to everyone-have a good weekend!

    Jennifer

  • Emme
    Emme Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2010

    Jenc 

    I had TE put in at the time of my BMX,  They were filled to 300 cc at the time of surgery.  They felt tight...and feel tight after each fill...for a day or two.  The are so damn hard...I am at 700cc. now.  Fill next week, and hopefully the PS is going to answer all of my questions!

    Em

  • DancerMel28
    DancerMel28 Member Posts: 122
    edited July 2010

    So a week post chemo - must say this last one hit the hardest in terms of fatigue. Had no energy at all this week - took a couple of days longer to get back to feeling like doing something. 

    Funny story - I didn't think my hands were too affected by any neuropathy but after dinner last night I'm not so sure.  My DH took me out for dinner last night (even though I had no taste buds!), anyway I was chatting away and was holding my (full) drink of soft drink in my left hand, which somehow it was like my hand forgot what it was doing and it was dropped all over the table.  I'm sure it looked a sight that's for sure - it went everywhere.  It just slipped - Don't know what was going on Embarassed

  • Emme
    Emme Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2010

    Dancer- I'm three weeks post chemo...i'm still really tired.  I have been napping in the afternoons.  It just takes time. It is so good not to have any nausea!

    I saw my Onc on Friday.  I will be starting Herceptin in two weeks.  I will be having 13 treatments over the next 39 weeks.

    Monday I am having another fill.  So much going on.

    Have a good weekend...I hope everyone is feeling good.

    Em

  • kad22
    kad22 Member Posts: 191
    edited July 2010

    Well I have made it through my first week of Taxol! Not too bad - I must say. Some stomach issues and a little of body pains but not much at all!

    Question - If on Taxol will the SE's be cummulative like when on AC?

    I have TEs and yes they are uncomfortable and tight- hard. I am filled up to 650ccs and that is the largest I am going!! Just want to feel somewhat normal so can't wait for the change in NOV/DEC.

    I asked my ONC about the MUGAs for me and I don't get one because no Herceptin... hmmm...

    Anyways - another treatment Monday and then I am done to only 10 more!! ;-) Hope everyone has a SE free weekend!!

  • farfaith
    farfaith Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2010

    kad22 i was told i was triple neg then when they did my port i was 37 % er so i dont know were i fall i did not have a gen. i have no females with cancer in my family. my grand father on moms side had prostate and his brother had liver.i have heard that tripple neg have high chance of coming back thier are people that dont though. my dr said i had high chances of it coming back was border line stage 4 because they did not find any thing any were elce amen. i  have had 4 round of Cytoxan and red devil and 3 Taxotere and one more wen then done cant wate! then surgery on august 6th double mastectomy then 35 rads.my tumer has shrunk to almost nothing dock says that good sing.

    for the wig they have head caps that help with absorbing sweet and help keep the head from itching got the catalog from my chemo dr. they really help but i like my scarfs and hats best.i will look for that catalog see if its got a web sight.

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