33 and just diagnosed with DCIS
Hello all, I am 33 with no history of breast cancer in my family. About a month ago my right breast became swollen and painful and I had a small amount of discharge which had never happened before. I went in for a check-up with my gyno who ordered blood work and and ultrasound. The results were that my blood work was fine but they saw a nodule they wanted to explore further in my breast. I then had an ultrasound biopsy and a mammogram on my right breast. The doctor called me this past Friday and said that the nodule had no cancer but the duct behind it did. I went in to meet with my surgeon today who gave me more details which confused me even more because I know nothing about breast cancer and I am so overwhelmed. The doctor told me that I have DCIS and they hope that it has not left the duct. I have the hormone postive type of cancer (I assume ER?) and she also said that the cancer is HER2 amplified (I assume this means that it could potentially be more aggressive?). The next steps is I have to wait 3 weeks until I can get my MRI which sort of scares me to wait that long, is that normal? The doctor said they need to wait until a week after my next period which is about a week away. Then after my MRI we will discuss treatment options. She told me that if they find that it is more aggressive then I will have to have chemo, but since I have HER2 would'nt that mean it is already aggressive. After that meeting I had another round of mammogram which gave me positive results that my left breast shows no signs of DCIS/cancer so I am relieved. I just want to talk to someone who had experienced something similar to me, I feel like I am so lost. I am so young and I have two young children so I will do anything to live. Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Lisa
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Hello, Hunter.
I'm am sorry about your news, but glad that you found us. I am a bit ahead of you as I was diagnosed at 39. I am not a mom, but there are many here that can help you.
The beginning of this process is very difficult. Very difficult. When I was first diagnosed, I wanted everything done now. NOW! Most of us probably feel that way. I'm not sure what is an average wait for an MRI; it is likely different for everyone. In my case, I waited for surgical biopsy results for about four weeks and then another week or so for an MRI. It seemed like forever. This might be tough to believe right now, but having this extra time gives us a chance to learn more about our diagnosis so that we can make good decisions about our treatment.
Here's a few tips. Try to bring someone along to your appointments for support. If that is not possible, try to write down what the doctors tell you about your treatment options. Most of the time, I walked out of appointments in a fog. It helps to have that written information to look at later. Also, ask for copies of your reports (mammos, MRI, etc.).
Most importantly, vent, cry, or scream if you need to. It is not easy, but it is doable. This does get better. Really, it does. Warmest wishes for you and your family.
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I also know of women who have taped their conversations with their surgeons. This way they could play it back over and over again to make sure they are aware of exactly what was said.
Did you already have the biopsy? If so, get a copy of the report. It will give you a lot of information.
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Hi hunter15,
I am so sorry to hear of your situation. It is a familiar one for me as I was in your shoes just this past Feb. Had bloody discharge on one side but found cancer by chance on the other side. If I can help you in any way I would be happy to. You are very wise to reach out for help & to try to connect with other women. I am a newbie to this site, but from what I have learned, this is a great place to get info & connect with others in the same situation or others with the same questions. It can be so scary & being in a fog is exactly what I would describe my experience as. This will be a process of discovery & learning and there are lots of us willing to help. Just know that you are going to be o.k. & you will watch your beautiful children grow up and have grandbabies.
I was 39 this past Feb when I was diagnosed with DCIS. Just take a deep breath. We've all been there when it comes out of nowhere & makes your whole world slow down. wyldblumusic is right that it takes time to comprehend everything and that as you are waiting for tests results, it is a good time to learn about your specific diagnosis. Your doctor or cancer center would be a great place to start. Ask them for their brochures, information about DCIS & also contacts of people you can talk to. The internet can give some good info but be careful, there is a lot of inaccurate info too. That is why I would suggest asking your Dr. or Dr.s office where he/she would suggest you find good info & resources. Your local cancer center or breast center may be where I would go first. I wish you were down the street & I could dump all the literature I've collected off at your door to help you.
DCIS is ductal carcinoma in situ which means it is cancer in the ducts of the breast that is contained within the ducts and have not spread outside. As is stated in this pamphlet, "The single most important fact about any breast cancer is whether it has grown beyond the milk ducts or lobules of the breast where it started." This is actually really good news & the best of cancer diagnosis. Yours has not grown beyond the ducts. BIG BREATH. The cancer is contained & has not spread. They have not spread or they would have classified it differently as IDC (invasive ductal carcinoma).
I am going to quote some info from CancerCare that my Dr. gave me about the hormones. "Receptors are structures present on the surface of some cancer cells that act as doorways, allowing certain substances, such as the hormones estrogen & progesterone, to enter the cells & encourage them to grow. Tumors that test positive for these structures are called hormone receptor positive and might be successfully be treated with hormonal therapy" Being estrogen or progesterone positive is a good thing because it means it will be sensitive to medication and they will be block the hormones from encouraging the cancer to grow. Whew!
About Her2: "it is a gene that helps control how cells grow, divide & repair themselves. About 1 out of 4 breast cancers has too many copies of the HER2 gene. The Her2 gene directs the production of special proteins, called Her2 receptors,in cancer cells. If there are too many copies, the cancer tends to grow fast. There is also an increase chance of spread. But, they do respond very well to treatment that works against HER2. This treatment is called anti-HER2 antibody therapy."
Let me ask you to make sure I understand, You have already had a biopsy done, some tissue removed & tested? Did they say if they got positive or negative or clear margins around the excised tissue? Because it is DCIS it is probably in a microscopic stage that has not fully progressed to an actual tumor. This is good. The other things you should find out are: 1. How different are the cancer cells from normal cells. This is the grade of the cancer. 2. How big is the cancer? 3. Has all of it been removed? This is where having clean margins around the biopsy is important. 4. Are there cancer in the lymph or blood vessels? Usually they test the lymph nodes in surgery 5.How fast are the cells growing?
Great suggestion to copy all of your tests & reports. You may ask the Image Center where you had your mammo, ultrasound or MRI to copy the tests onto a CD for you. I was then able to take them to a Cancer center who were able to re-read them before suggesting treatment.
Do you have any family support or great friends or a church community? This would be a great time to let them uplift you to make things easier for you. I have two young children too & you will need help. There are lots of ways to find it so if you find yourself alone, don't worry. Even some hospitals have special programs to help during times like these.
I would also suggest getting a storage binder where you can file away reports, receipts etc. & keep all the info you will be collecting to keep it all in one place. It reduces a lot of stress when you don't have to run around looking for the report that "was somewhere".
Most importantly, get a journal for yourself. I would encourage you to write in the good things that happen to you along the way. Someone sent me a card. Met a new friend today. They are easy to overlook if we focus on how devastating we feel, but it really can be a source of strength.
I really hope I have helped a little. Any questions you have, don't hesitate to Private Message me and I will try my best to help in any way I can. I'll try to walk you through this one step at a time. Take care, have hope and know you are among a strong group of women who have made it on the other side and you will too.
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Excellent advice from the above posts. Just wanted to add that if it is truly DCIS then HER status doesn't really play a role. Some surgeons don't even check HER status in pure DCIS because there is still controversy about what role it plays. There are studies that show that a lot of DCIS cases are HER + but the treatment is still the same in both positive and negative HER. Don't let it concern you so much. If your tumor was invasive, then HER plays a much larger role. Hang in there and hugs.
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Take a deep cleansing breath and try to release some of that tension. You are in the worst stage of this experience. The waiting game, waiting for tests, waiting for results, waiting to get a treatment plan. Knowledge is power and you can take this time to educate yourself so that you can be an active member of your cancer team and make informed decisions. The wait for the optimum time after your period is normal, particularly when you are dealing with DCIS. Those cells have probably been in there for at least a few years, it really isn't going to hurt anything to wait so that they get the best possible image. It is best to get all of this testing done before your surgery so that hopefully you can complete your treatment and never have to deal with this again.
HER2 status for DCIS is not all that common. MD Anderson has been studying it and my pathology actually included it, but the majority of doctors do not believe that HER2 status has much bearing on a DCIS diagnosis. Now if your surgical pathology shows any invasion, and it still tests positive for HER2, that would be a different matter and you would likely be having herceptin for a full year. Being hormone positive can be a good thing as it gives you tamoxifen as an additional tool in your arsenal. Your age is a factor. They may want to talk about removing your ovaries or shutting them down with a drug. There have been some recent studies that indicate that aggressive treatment of women in your age group is warrented. For most of us, a lumpectomy provides equal survival rates to a mastectomy. Komen has some great lists of questions that you can print off and take to your appointments. If you go to their home page, the upper left corner there is an icon that reads "I have been diagnosed with breast cancer", and it is under their resource section. I used those lists alot when I was going through treatment. Try to do some fun things with your family to distract yourself from all of this. Research is one thing, but obsessing is not going to do you or your family any good. Humor, funny movies etc., is genuinely good medicine, as it causes your body to release endorphins that can help get you healthy.
Some of the sites I used before I was even diagnosed were Komen, Living Beyond Breast Cancer, and dcis.info. Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book is considered a bible, but I do part company with her on her view of DCIS as a "pre-cancer". Every single one of my doctors consider it a true cancer with the potential of modifiying and becoming invasive. However, her book is a really good source of information on all aspects of breasts and breast cancer. For most of us, breast cancer is not a death sentence anymore. I know survivors of more advanced cancers who are now in their 20 something years of survival, and I even have a dear friend who is a 56 year survivor of breast cancer. Just stay focused on those little ones. God bless you and your family.
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Lisa,
I am so sorry you have to deal with this at such a young age. When I was diagnosed with DCIS in 2007 I was confused and very scared too.
The good news about DCIS is that it is not invasive! This means that it is not biologically capable of getting out of the milk duck and into your breast. Because of this, chemo is not needed. You won't lose your hair.
Standard of treatment is mastectomy or lumpectomy with radiation (although some patients, with low grade DCIS can skip radiation, if they are comfortable with that).
The other great thing about DCIS is that the survival rate is almost 100 percent. You are not going to die of this!
Also, because DCIS is non-invasive, you have time to carefully consider all your options. You can even wait several months before you do anything without endangering your life.
Please feel free to send me a private messages if you have any questions. I am always happy to share what I have learned in the last 3 years.
Hugs and best wishes,
Sandie
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Hunter15 I've been thinking about you and wanted to know how you were. I hope you are doing well and wanted to encourage you that there are a lot of us that have gone through this that are willing to help & offer support. Private message me anytime. Big hugs, Hummingb1rd
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