I am terrified of chemotherapy
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Hi Bon,
Keep showing up! And ask your onc for a sleeping aid. I think I was taking ambien, or the other relatively new sleeping pill. Plus, I had an rx for Valium - for those "anxious" days (i.e. all the testing at the beginning, and any other time I just wanted to "relax").
There's no question this is a scary experience. We've all been there, so we know what you're going through. I just read through your post and am so glad you made it! Now speak up and get the meds you need!!! And don't forget to drink plenty of water!!! (I did a 30 day juice fast a few months back, to help rid myself of the chemo toxins from 2008. The fast helped me jump-start a new diet and I've since lost 25 pounds and feel great. Only 20 more to go. Oh, the point of that was that on the juice fast, I had to drink 1.5 - 2 gallons of water and juice per day. Seemed impossible, but I did that, too! And now I try to drink the better part of a gallon of water a day - it really helps with energy, diet and overall health. And yes, I pee a lot!)
Good luck to you!
Sue
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Bon;
I wish you the best in your endeavor. I know it is not the easiest thing in the world to do. I found for me I was fine doing chemo. The 3rd day was my worst. They told me to take tagament for my acid reflux. I was put on ambien cause I could not sleep. I took emend for my nausea and that really helped. I drank lots of water. Took ice chips with me while I did chemo. Helped greatly for not getting cold sores. If your throat is bothering you as your Dr for some mouthwash and it will take care of it right away. Make sure you take some time off while you are getting better. It is important to take care of you. I took my nuelasta shot and my Dr. told me to take alieve, claritan for 3 days. The day of the shot and from that point on. This helped relieve the flu like symptoms and joint pain you experience. My Dr recommended and said only alieve. For constipation which was a nightmare for me. I took a stool softner. Dulcolax was the best for me. We are here for you and you can do this. Like I said most importantly take care of yourself.,,,and we are here for you.
Blessings, Elizabeth
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Ladies, I'm not feeling the love here.
Admittedly, you've got me on an off day, but I really needed reassurance, and what I hear is 'you thought you'd be sick so you are'.
That isn't the case, actually, since I got so much good advice from others who posted before you, I really thought I could make it through without difficulty. I worked during the first infusion, in that chair with my files out and phone in hand. I worked the next two days. And then WHAM! I was surprised by how it hit me but listened to what others said had helped them. I hydrated and laid low. Thought that by yesterday I'd be pretty good again. But while driving felt really impaired.
I have kept a pretty positive attitude. I haven't whined or fretted too much, until this morning when I felt crappy and asked for a little reassurance.
I am all about the power of positive thinking. Yes, I tried mind over matter. I was saying it hadn't worked and I felt sick.
OK, I'm going onward, off to work today. I do have to make contoingency plans because if I need to be on the road I may have to have someone else drive. But I don't think that's predisposing myself to being ill, I think that's just smart to be prepared.
Like I said, today isn't a great day. So maybe I am overly sensitive. But do be mindful that your words are taken seriously on these blogs and encouragement, not critism, is what's needed.
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Thanks, Elizabeth. I phoned my doc but he said I can't take anything, no Alieve, tylenol, etc. for the headaches. I go in tomorrow for the blood check so will be able to ask for something then to deal with the reflux. I will get through this. I'm determined to be a survivor of cancer and of the treatment.
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I qualified my speculation, with "it's just a thought"-and that's what it was. "Feel the fear and do it anyway" as they say. I think if you participate in online forums, you have to realise that you are going to get a whole lot of differing opinions. All of these opinions will be valid-people after all are posting to try and help/give you some ideas/support. From them, extract what may be helpful to you-but posters have to be honest, otherwise, what is the point in posting? I was suggesting that if you could control the fear somewhat, then you may cope better with subsequent infusions-it was a suggestion, not a command! I also felt that adjusting your lifestyle while suffering was a reasonable option. But perhaps, as you said, you wanted to feel "love" and not listen to suggestions, and I therefore apologise if my suggestions have been unhelpful to you.However as ivorymum said-once she had decided to go ahead, she decided to make the best of it, and I think that is a pretty good approach. Considering your first post said you were in melt down, you have already come a long way-hope the remaining treatments are less stressful.
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Bon,
Are you getting any exercise? I did AC + T, six DD rounds of each. I exercised through it all, doing a minimum of a weights/crunches routine plus walking at least one mile every week day. Plus, I cycled on the weekends, somewhere between 15-20 miles each time. This kept my body from getting trashed and I swear helped me sleep.
I was told I could take Tylenol to help with the Neulasta pain so I did. I also took a probiotic which I think helped keep the digestion working normally. (Still have those prunes I bought for surgery.) I drank a ton of water and ate much more protein than I normally would.
I am a cyclist and it was a mild winter. Would recommend walking or at least some exercise as oxygenates the system and makes you feel better.
I was fine driving with AC, but didn't after Taxol infusions because I really react to the Benadryl. I did have them cut back on the Decadron from 3 to 2 days.
I do consulting work, so don't have to travel to do my job, and continued to work throughout.
So, while not fun, I got through just fine. I am sure you will as well. Good luck.
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Remember that drinking is good and peeing is essential. My pharmacist and onc said drink all you can and pee at least every two hours. "Dilute and evict"!! I had my first TC on the 24th. i'm at work with a bottle of water beside me.
We can all do this.
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Bon,
I think we all just want you to know we are there with you all the way. If we could hold you, take your hand, get you out of the house, drive you we would do it. That is because we care. I think it is hard to hear the truth because we want it to be different for us too. We are not excited about it either. If it was different we would not be here that is for sure. You are loved. I give you a lot of credit for coming on here and reaching out. I did not find this site till I was almost done. What I have learned on these forums is things I really did not want to read, and things that made sense, things that made me laugh, things that made me cry, things that encouraged me, things that gave me the strength to know I am capable of doing this. Everyone handle things differently. Thank God we are not the same. I am not going to give you suggestions if it is going to upset you. When you are ready and think you are willing to hear those things then I am happy to give you suggestions through this journey, I just would like to respect your space. Blessings to you Bon and please take care of you! Elizabeth
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OK, ladies. I'm back in a better frame of mind but not in better physical shape. Still, one out of two isn't bad.
I do appreciate your suggestions and have implemented tons of them. I'm drinking constantly, got out the stationary bike, quit work early and am trying to rest now. I am taking a pro biotic and have the suggested mouthwash. The reflux and headache just won't go away and the oncologist says no Advil, Tylenol. So I got an eye mask and will try to take a nap.
I understand that no one meant to insult me or cause me any additional angst. It was just the suggestion that I expected to get sick so I did. Truly, nothing could be farther from the truth because everyone on line did such a good job of telling me it was easier than I thought. So I thought 'piece of cake'. What I got was 'whoa, Nellie...where did this sick feeling come from?' I over did my expectations of being able to carry on as usual. Probably because I am self employed and really must continue to be productive throughout. But I've learned now that I need to make allowances for the first week after the chemo and try to refer my business then. I have some wonderful colleagues who will be more than happy to take care of clients in this down economy.
I have never participated in a blog site before and still feel that this one has been the key to getting me this far. A friend made me a plaque that says..".You don't have to be brave. You just have to show up." I learned that here from Joyce a few weeks ago and it's kept me focused on the goal.
Perhaps I'm not as terrified as I was before...you've made me understand that it is OK to be scared but that the treatments are doable. What I am is 'tired' of this already and I have months to go. I want to scream "ENOUGH" when it's only just begun.
If I can get some real rest tonight then in the morning I can get something from the doc for headache, reflux and sleep. If those can be even partially controlled my mood will improve considerably.
Bon
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Hi Bon
Just before I started chemo 2 years ago a colleague, who had been thro' chemo, told me 'listen to your body and go with the flow' and I think it was really good advice.
I too tried initially to work every day but, like you, realised very quickly that I just wasn't up to it (got stopped for speeding when trying to rush home with my 'drunken' head on). Some days I just stayed under the duvet and whilst most days I did benefit from going for a walk, some days just couldn't face that.
Make the most of your good days and on the bad days, just batten down the hatches. It doesn't last long. Don't overdo things. Remember that these chemo drugs affect every part of us and those people who can carry on as normal are very few and far between, I think.
Be kind to yourself.
Mal
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Hi Bon,
I am half way done with treatments - 4 rounds AC every 3 wks then 12 rounds of weekly taxol. When I first started I had heard the same on these forums and from others that chemo is douable and you don't get sick (throwing up) anymore because of all the meds offered. Well my first treatment even the nurse said she knew of many people woul went out to lunch right after - so I though what the heck and my husband and I went for a sub. Well that night I was so sick throwing up and needed fluids the next day - I can't tell you how upset I was! I though oh-boy this is not what I am doing anymore. My onc fixed my drugs and didn't throw up anymore but still get really sick after each treatment to the point where this last one I said "I have had it" but here I am getting ready to start my second half of treatments this coming Monday. I am scared to start something new! But with so many people on these sites encouraging me I will do it and get through it. I also worked through my first treatments but am lucky to have summers off -teacher! I hope you don't give up and come back to this forum for help and guidance like I still do!
I Love the saying "You don't have to be brave, You just have to show up"!
Hugs to everyone and I hope we can get through the Fourth with No or limited SE's!!
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I know exactly how you are feeling. I was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer in Dec. 2009. I was very nervous about the chemo but decided that I would keep a very positive outlook. That's the best advice I can give you. Try to go about your every day life as normally as you can. If you can keep the same routine that you do now, keep it. I went to work every day and did my best not to let it take over my life and I believe that helped. I was exhausted at the end of the day but I vowed not to let it take over my life. I wish you good thoughts and hope everything goes well for you.
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Bon - I had DD AC and 12 weekly Taxol. I had told my office that I would be back to work after I figured out which days were bad and which were not. What I didn't anticipate were some of the lingering SE's. I did stay out of work for 6 months (worked some from home). I found it hard to read about women going on as if nothing were wrong and wondered why on earth I felt so bad and they didn't. Then I realized, we're all different and react to chemo differently. And for the record, I drank tons of water, walked almost every morning, took probiotics, stool softners when needed and then immodium when needed. I am not one to sit around and feel sorry for myself and I didn't do it during treatment, but I felt terrible at times. We all handle chemo differently and my onc said that some women do better than others and not to compare myself to anyone.
I hope you feel better and remember to rest when your body needs it.
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I went for the blood count today and ended up with a shot of Neulasta because my WBC is already down to 2. I finally got permission to take Tylenol (Hallelujah) and an Rx for Nexium so maybe the reflux will stop. I'm hopeful that these next two weeks before another round of Cytoxan and Taxotere will be less symptomatic. Still knowing that I may have to give in to naps and a slower pace, but hoping to have a clearer head.
I got tired of plain water and Smartwater so have loaded in Fruit H20, Tonic Water, Ginger Ale, flavored sparkling water, and decaf green tea to mix it up a bit. I'm sloshing but keeping up the fluid load as you've all advised. I do feel better hydrated.
I've got lots of office work to do over the next couple of days so will try to just pace myself. I'd love to take a short walk but it's 95 degrees with 95% humidity here, so not sure that would be the best 'therapy'.
This weekend a friend is coming to stay for 7 days and she's bringing the clippers. I have plenty of scarves and hats. Have to find a wig and then she'll shave my head. Might as well get it over with, right?
Thanks for hanging in there with me and letting me know the good and the bad. This isn't for sissies, is it?
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Bon, are you doing all the chemo things that are listed in that section of the site?
Here was my "antidote" to chemo side effects.
I bought a 64 ounce brita pitcher and filled it with water. I drank a pitcher the day before chemo, the day of and two days after. Don't drink junk with sugar and additives and flavorings. Dring water, pure water and lots of it.
I only ate high fiber foods - the day before, the day of, and two days after. All of my snacks, and everything I ate, was high fiber. Since I couldn't taste, it didn't matter much. I ate progresso bean soups, I ate brown rice, I ate veggies and greens (cooked when my whites were low) I ate whole grain cereal, and yogurt and oatmeal. Metamucil cookies. Trader Joes has a fruit snack that is pure fruit and high fiber. I was very diligent in my food intake and it helped, I had almost no constipation or stomach issues.I had colace on hand, just in case.
My 2nd round I did have acid reflux. It was short-lived but unpleasant. I took tagamet for the heartburn. But, not the kind that takes ten days to work - the one hour kind. It worked so if you aren't taking that, you should.
I took my nausea meds whether I needed them or not. Very important!
It's harder at the beginning while your body adjusts. My first/second round was worst for stomach and my last rounds were worse for energy. None was horrible though, and I hope that you end up feeling that way.
DRINK YOUR WATER! I can't emphasize that enough.
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I am panicking at this very moment had lumpectomy and two positive nodes removed last Wednesday... I am scared to death... my immediate future look bleak... I am having a melt down at this second...I live alone and do not have any family or friends in my area... everyone live a hour away
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sohardbnme take a deep breath! Have a look at the introductory page here. There are 70,000 + mostly women here who have "been there, done that". You have lots of people right here who happily be your new friends - and furthermore, they have a much better idea of what is happening to you than most of our families or friends. Most of us will tell you that the part between diagnosis and the beginning of active treatment is the hardest part. Once you get started and sort out how to work your life around it, you can, yes can, do it.
A friend who is a year behind me with the samed darn thing said she wishes she could just have someone tell her at the end of treatment that she is cured and won't have to worry again. We know that will never happen. On the other hand, pick any woman from the street or your neighbourhood or wherever - no one can promise her that she will never ever get BC. We all get up in the morning and deal with whatever it is that life throws at us. Really, that's all we have to do - as the earlier posters have said, "just show up". You are not alone here.
(edited to fix a silly typo)
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Sohardbnme
Please listen to Lassie11 and take a deep breath.
We have all been where you are. No one will tell you that this cancer journey is easy. But I started this forum because I was terrified of what lies ahead. And these wonderful women got me through to the next day and the next step and on and on. They keep coming back to keep me on track and help me and others to be less afraid and more motivated.
This is a goldmine of caring, compassionate, understanding and knowledgeable women who are most willing to share and cheer you on. They will all boost you up and keep you focused on the goal. You can do this.
Please remember that fear and faith are both grounded in the unknown. Fear thinks negatively and gets paralyzed. Faith looks forward to a brighter future, Don't let your fear over power your faith. This is doable.
And it's Ok to meltdown, so long as you can pick yourself up and forward. On this forum Joyce taught me that "you don't have to be brave. You just have to show up." I have that as a poster in my bathroom now...reminding me that every day I just need to show up, whether it be for an appointment or just for life. Swing your foot out of bed, put it on the floor and move...show up and keep your eye on the goal.
I'm now 13 days post my first chemo treatment. I never thought I'd be able to do it. But I did and it wasn't as terrifying as I thought because of these women on this forum. The best understanding of what you are going through is here. Your friends and family an hour away can help with rides and errands and a physical hug. But these women on this site give long distance hugs with every response to your plight.
You will get through this. We are all here for you.
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OK, The chemo worked as they said it would and my hair started falling out all over the place. So last night I had my head shaved and I'm actually relieved. Never thought I'd say that, but waiting for it to happen was worse than just getting it over with.
Finally had two good days and figure that I've got another 6 to get everything done before my next chemo. Have to address the headaches with the oncologist. I just cannot go through that three more times. I had polio when I was 7 and the headaches and stiff neck were excruciating. The headaches I had after the chemo were akin to that. Could have something to do with the Decadron IV and oral dosage or maybe just the chemo, (May have been my hair follicles trying to hold on for dear life).
Anyway, whatever it is, I just cannot deal with it again. Took Tylenol and it really didn't touch it for more than an hour. Can't take codeine, morphine, Demerol, Darvon, etc. because they make the room spin and then I throw up. One of the nurses said something about oxycodone. I'm scared of that. Have any of you tried it? Please advise.
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Bon,
My father-in-law has lung cancer and was prescribed oxycodone, but didn't want to take it because at 85 years old, he was afraid of becoming addicted! His onc "yelled" at him about not taking it and once he started, it made all the difference. He has had no problems with it and great pain relief.
I had my second round today. My daughter made me a chemo countdown chart with sayings under each number. Today's saying was "You just have to show up-you don't have to be brave" taken from Joyce. That is my mantra for this chemo thing.
Headcovers.com has some very cute scarves.
Sohardbnme-take time to read this post from the beginning. I was terrified and it really helped me feel better about chemo.
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I take percocet (oxycodone) currently. I am having some pretty bad bone pain and my oncologist prescribed it. I take two in the morning and two in the afternoon, and that kills most of the pain so I can function.
My nurse said that if you are taking it for pain, you won't get addicted. You may end up being physically dependant on it, but the addictive component is a craving for a "high" that we who suffer pain don't get. I don't get any high or euphoric feeling, my pain just eases. When it's time to stop, we have no problem tapIering off because we don't have that addict-like craving for a high.
I don't really know, but isn't oxycodone the same thing as morphine or vicodin, just in a stronger form? I might be wrong. But, if you can't take those things, maybe this isn't for you either.
I suffered from terrible migraines before I got cancer. Oddly enough, chemo has cured me! (Almost). I took Imitrex a few times at first before my ovaries died and my migraines left, maybe imitrex would help you? Also, they offered me toredol, which helps some people with headaches, but I can't take that one.
Just some suggestions. Your doctor should help you with that, and make sure you drink your water to clear your system.
(I'm a big advocate of hydration during chemo.)
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OK, Coolbreeze and Readingteacher, if you think that oxycodone is worth a try, I'll ask for it this time around. I didn't want to feel more nausea and that reeling, 'hold on to the bed, the room is spinning' feeling. If it works without those two SE, and gets rid of my headaches, I'll be thrilled.
FYI, today I have a headache from wearing a wig all day. I couldn't wait to get home and rip it off my head! Scarves may be my best route. Readingteacher, thanks for the headcover.com site. I will check it out. I did go to a website today and signed up for a free turban. I'll look up the site name and send it to you.
And, Coolbreeze, I do read your blog and follow you on Facebook. I don't look at Facebook often any more, but always look for your entries..
Thanks for writing. I was feeling apprehensive about the next chemo and am less anxious now.
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I hope by now you are feeling ok...I have had 16 weeks of chemo Taxol Herceptin and a trial drug Lapatinib, surgery, and have just completed 4 treatments of AC. Do not panic! I have had very few side effects from any of these drugs. I have taken the drugs to manage side effects and until the last 2 treatments of AC have had just general nausea and feelings of tiredness. Stay positive and keep moving around when you can. Just keep looking ahead!! Good luck to you.
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Hello all....I am new to this thread but, sadly, not new to cancer. I was dx'd in April 2010, had a bmx w/immediate recon on June 22 and 2 of 18 nodes were affected so now I have to have chemo. I do have an appointment with an oncologist next week but wanted to get on this board as this entire site has been a total education for me from day 1 and I figured I might learn some things from you all about what to expect.
From what I understand there are several different types of chemo and not all make you sick or your hair fall out but, honestly, I am not worried about any of that.....I am just looking forward to it being OVER! With 2 nodes effected and having a bmx and I am BRCA negative I was hoping for a short chemo cycle....any one have any info for me?!
The unknown...always the unknown!!!!!
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lizzymack1...oh, to have this over. That is the goal for all of us. The waiting and wondering would have done me in if I hadn't found this website and started this forum.
Yes, I, too, learned that there are a ton of different chemo regimens and that what you are going to be given depends upon the many tumor factors (like size, placement, nodes involvement, Estrogen and Progesterone receptors, etc.) and where you are being treated. Some of the larger cities may have newer treatment plans in effect. When I asked my local oncologist if I could try a new dosing schedule that was recommended on this site, he said "sure, but only after you do the one I'm recommending first." I've found that having faith in your docs...surgeon, medical oncologist and radiation oncologist...it the thing that helps the most. I struggled but finally found people I trusted so that I wasn't second-guessing their opinions all the time.
There is another forum I follow and participate on at this site and it's a group of women who started chemo in June. I know I saw another forum that was for those starting chemo in July. You may want to search that one out and join along on everyones ride. I know that I've learned more on these to blogs than I could ever have found on my own or gotten from friends and family, who mean well, but aren't walking in my shoes. Hearing the words "you have cancer" is numbing. And all the ladies on this site have been there. So glad you found this website early.
Blessings to you. Bon
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Readingteacher...I've been saying that the quote "You don't have to be brave. You just have to show up." came from Joyce, but I scrolled back and it actually came from Jayne_in_UK. Just wanted to give credit where it is due. Cheers to Jayne. She has helped many of us. Bon
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lizzymack:
There is a forum titled June 2010 chemo and it was started by hopeful34.There are a fair number of participants already signed up. Maybe that would be a good place for you to start a dialog with women beginning the process at the same time you are. But do come back here often because here I got advice and support from women who are past some or all of the stages I am or will be going through. Both perspectives are fantastic. This entire website rocks!
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I have another round of chemo scheduled for tomorrow at 9:15. Am going to talk with med onc about headaches. Cannot endure them again and need some adjustment to infusion. If it's as bad this time as last, I'm done. Yes, you're right, today I'm not positive. I'm apprehensive that this medically approve Draino will kill me, not cure me.
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I promised Sarah Adams at www.Gailafund.org that I would post information about their new organization to help women with cancer. They provide free hat wraps for any cancer patient, knowing that hair loss is a traumatic part of the diagnosis and treatment process, and that a lush and lovely head wrap is a most welcome gift.
Gail Arch (aka GailA) left work in 2009 to fight the fight with metastatic cancer. She wanted something to do, as if fighting cancer isn't already a full time job. she decided to sew a few hats form materials she collected in her world travels, and to give them away to women also fighting the same battle. Three of her friends (Sarah Adams, Paige Yates and Debby Belichick) merged thier talents, expanded on the idea and forged ahead to form this public charity that helps women living with cancer.
Go to www.Gailafund.org and looks them over. Then click on the form and sign up to receive one FREE. They even let you put down three of your favorites and they really do try to send one of those almost immediately upon receipt of your registration.
And yes, the would love donations and they do sell these wraps so if you'd like more than one you can purchase at any time. Or if a friend offers to get you a gift, maybe another Gaila headwrap would be nice.
Really, do give this a try. It's a very lovely gesture. They can't take the cancer away but they can gift you a beautiful headpiece to wear with pride.
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Bon: it is not so much that I am worried about the side effects like hair loss and eyebrows etc.. but what I am worried about, and too petrified to even read more about, is stuff like "chemo brain" and other long-term effects of chemotherapy on our organs. I don't know...just nervous about that but nervousness is not going to get me anywhere and with 2 nodes affected and the fact that I just turned 40 means, pretty much, my choices, if any, will undoubtedly be negligible.
I have gotten such great support all along on this board, I will turn to these women who have gone before me, for inspiration and reassurance that things will be ok. I am so very hopeful I won't have a difficult time with chemo but the fears are intrinsic, sadly!!!!!!
Thanks for your kind words. My last drain comes out next week, I am meeting with the oncologist this Thursday and I am only pretty sure chemo will be starting in August.
As Alan Greenspan would say, I am cautiously optimistic!!!
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