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  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2010

    I'd also like to hear more about glutamine and why you take it and when?

    thanks,

    Latte

     P.S.  I could have sworn that i posted a thank you last night to everyone whogave me great info about getting a port - but I can't see it anywhere. So thanks to everyone you are brilliant!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2010

    Dsa-outtahere, Jenmarie9  and Bon - Good luck tomorrow! hope everything goes well and minimal se's!!!

  • momof2kidz
    momof2kidz Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2010

    Dsa-outtahere - Good Luck today.  I hope everything goes well.  I had my first treatment yesterday and everything went well.  I packed a "chemo bag" full of books but didn't read a one.  I did take my i-pod and listened to music which seemed to help quite a bit.

    My day was extremely long yesterday.  I was informed by my oncologist the night before chemo that my Her2 test came back positive at the last minute so my meds had to be changed from TAC to TCH x 6 and Herceptin x 12.  Unfortunately the nurses were not aware of the change so I had to wait for the Onc to get in before my treatment could get started.  Was there for about 10 1/2 hours.  The only side effect that I have this morning is a slight sore throat and my face and chest look like I have a bad sunburn.  Has anyone else had a problem with redness? 

     Sherri K

  • CEBsMom
    CEBsMom Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2010

    had my first TC chemo on Jun 21--TC X 4 or 6 they haven't made up their mind... Waiting on my Oncogene score--Pray for a low one!!  So far i've been blessed w/ very little SEs.  A little fatigue and headache.  Still freaking about my hair--not lost any but postponed serious shopping for wig unitl the afternoon after chemo.  Found a good shop associated w/ a hospital willing to order.

    Have any of you done any research on Penquin Polar Caps? Been doing some reading.  At this stage of the chemo for me it would only protect new growth.  Seems promising but my PA knew nothing about them.  Have a call into my doc. 

    Blessings on you all as we take this unplanned journey!!

  • workmother
    workmother Member Posts: 78
    edited June 2010

    Hi everyone. I'v e kept away from the boards because its been too overwhelming for me. But now I am starting chemo today. AC x 4 and T x 4. Am scared sh**!  So here I am. I also stopped working for the summer (work in a school) so I have time now. Anyway I've been reading all the tips. Starting drinking tons of water yesterday and again this morning. Did all my chemo shopping on Sunday. I'm planning on sucking on popsicles during the treatment, although when I called and asked the nurse about it she kind of "pooh-poohed" the benefits of the ice for mouth sores theory. I'm going to wear sea bands too. It even says on the package for chemotherapy (thought that was interesting). And I did my first acupuncture session yesterday too! I figure whatever I can do to be proactive helps me feel in control and as long as its OK with the Onc., why not?

    Also going to take the Claratin for the bone pain from the shot but not sure when to start. I see some people take it the day of treatment, day of the shot, and the following day. I got the regular Claratin. Any advice on when and how often?

    And a couple of people suggested taking a stool softener starting day of treatment too. I'm not so sure about that one. What if I get the opposite problem? Is it OK to wait to see what happens first?

    I think I'll be on her often throughout the summer now. Don't know how to get my name added to the top list of people. Thanks to all for your suggestions! Wish me luck!!! -Donna

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2010

    Go Dsa!!  You can do it! Laughing  And to the other ladies that are starting today--You can do it too!!  We'll be waiting to hear how it went!

    Momof2kids-->The "sunburn" look is from the steroids (unless of course you didn't have any steroids!).  When I went back the next day for my Neulasta shot the nurse commented on my "steroid glow".  It stayed for about 3 days.  I have fair skin, so it really looks bad on me :P

  • momof2kidz
    momof2kidz Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2010

    TMarina - Yes, I did have steroids and also had a large dose of it the day before chemo due to an allergic reaction to the dye that they gave me before my cat scans so that must be what it is from.  I am fair skinned too so it looks bad on me also.  Hopefully it will go away soon.  Thanks.

     Sherri K

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited June 2010

    Momof2kids, I have readness in cheeks and chest area too, TMarina, thanks for the info on why!  Bad headache at bedtime last night and this am, maybe from Neulasta shot yesterday?  Ibuprofen seems to be taking care of it.  Going to the office today, hope I'm not being overly optimistic!

    Julia

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited June 2010

    Need some advice... I was having some constipation and took senekot last night, hoping to fix the problem by this morning... Now I still haven't relieved the problem and additionally I'm having the worst cramps, very painful. What should I do... I'm a little scared to try more fiber, I don't want to make the cramps worse...

  • Jenmarie9
    Jenmarie9 Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2010

    Thanks for the good wishes. I am at then center now just hanging out on my laptop. Between facebook and here, I am keeping busy. They are great here. Accessed my port very easily. Started me on saline, gave me some tylenol and now benadryl and Emend. A big dose of herceptin is coming next, followed by taxotere, then carboplatin.

    I will be here for awhile...good luck to DSA-outtahere, Bon, and my friend, Workmother.

    Pretty soon I will have #1 behind me and 5 to go.

    Jen

  • sandiddstn
    sandiddstn Member Posts: 88
    edited June 2010

    Had port put in on Monday and 1st chemo right afterwards.  Felt fine till pain meds wore off.  Hurts like heck now.  Just wondering if cause I had a bilateral mastectomy and it is sitting right on a nerve or muscle.  Is anyone else having this trouble, or should I say pain....

  • workmother
    workmother Member Posts: 78
    edited June 2010

    Good luck Jen!! I'll be on my way in a couple of hours. Is it December yet??? Can we just fast forward to this part being over now?

  • Beanius
    Beanius Member Posts: 1,697
    edited June 2010

    DesignerMom - thanks for the encouragement, I think it will all be okay...thank you, thank you..I'm glad you are doing so well with it!

    Jenweg - how are you doing with your treatments? I hope you're doing great!

    Jenmarie9 - good luck with #1 and so glad to hear you got your wig and you like it, I think being prepared for the cosmetic stuff will be so helpful!

    Kittycat - So sorry to hear you got a headache, is there anything the docs can give you for it? Hope it goes away soooooooon!!

    Gin2ca - hello and welcome, I am starting 6/29 so lets get the party started!

    TMarina - I'm sorry to hear of bone pain, and hope you get past that soon.

    Dsa-outtahere - good luck with #1! Hurray, you will do great!

    Kickazz - Good luck with # 2! We'll be thinking of you!

    Isla - glad your scalp tenderness if getting better.

  • Beanius
    Beanius Member Posts: 1,697
    edited June 2010

    Momof2kidz - Congrats on getting #1 done! Sorry to hear it was an awfully long day. I haven't started chemo, but after each surgery my cheeks got really flushed, it must be some kind of allergic reaction??

    CEBsMom - Congrats to you to on getting # 1 done!!! I'm also waiting for oncotype score - I'll be praying for both of us to have low scores. I looked into the cold caps but decided it was too much trouble for me and that hair loss wasn't that big a deal. I think there's a thread about it on BCO. I don't think the treatment centers like to deal with it.

    Workmother - good luck with your first tx, I know how scary it is cause I've almost started a few times. So many women have posted success so I can only guesss you and I will be okay too, sounds like you're all prepared. Don't let anyone pooh-poo your needs. I'm finding that my instincts and gut feelings are my saving guides, use the ice! To get on the list I sent a PM to danielas.

    RS711 - Another of us had this problem and you might want to PM her for a solution. I'm so sorry you are having this and hope it gets better too.

    Sandiddstn - I would call your doc if you're having pain, I hate to see you suffer when they may have a solution.

    I started to get an infection where the axld surgery was done last month as the drain just came out Monday. Called my doc last night and got antibiotics started so it's doing better again. Then the pathologist sent the wrong sample for oncotype results so I have to wait again for that. Otherwise I'm doin pretty well and looking forward to starting chemo next week so I can get it over with. My prayers are with all of you each day. Peace, love, health and happiness to you, Beanie

  • meliss
    meliss Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2010

    The hives got worse before they got better. Woke up Tuesday in much worse shape, so I went to my allergist. He gave me two epinephrine shots and one prednisone shot and put me on a stronger antihistimine. He also put me on an antibiotic for a low-grade fever/possible sinus infection. I spent all of Tuesday in a drug-induced sleep, thank goodness, so I was only aware of how miserable I was part of the day when I was awake. Today is much better. The swelling in my face has gone down a lot, and the hives are going down and not as itchy. Another couple days on prednisone and I should be okay, just in time for treatment #2 on Monday, June 28.

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2010

    Hi All,

    Well I am three days out of my first FEC chemo and feeling better. I do get tired but the nausea has lessened and I have not taken any steriods or antinausea meds today so I hope it continues to go well. I went for a 5k walk with my husband and that was tiring but refreshing and I want to head back to the gym so lets hope I can Smile I still have that foggy head feeling but most of you say that goes away. Now I am just waiting for my hair to fall out. I guess I have another 2 weeks for that so let me see how that goes. I ordered some cute hats and a wig. I hope you are all doing well and for those of you who have not had your first chemo look at it as a beginning to the healing process. It is tough but together we can all do this!

    Take care,

    Trusting

  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2010

    The following is taken from a handout on Glutamine my oncologist gave me, for the ladies that asked about the reason for taking glutamine.

    Glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body. It is found in blood and tissue, and primarily formed and stored in skeletal muscle and lungs. It also serves as an essential nutrient required by the mucosal cells of the colon. It enhances nutrient transport and facilitates the enteral absorption of electrolytes. In one study it appeared to be a simple and useful measure to increast the comfort of patients at high risk of developing mouth sores are a consequence of intensive cancer chemotherapy.

     Glutamine has recently showed evidence of helping to relieve some of the side effects associated with the following chemotherapy agents.

    Taxotere, Taxol, carboplatin and Cisplatinum induced muscle and joint aches as well as the numbness and tingling in the fingers and toes.
     

    Camptosar-induced diarrhea

    Mouth sores associated with intensive chemotherapy regimes

    High does methotrexate induced bowel irritation and inflammation

    A healthy person does not require supplemental intake of this aminio acid, but certain diseases and medications as above result in a deficiency.A traditional diet contains less than 10 grams per day. During illness or stress to the body, a need for glutamine can increase to 20-40 grams per day. Supplemental intake of glutamine has been found to be very helpful in preventing or easing these symptoms.

     Glutamine comes in a powder form and is mixed with juice or water. Avoid mixing in ice-cold liquids. The recommended dosage is 10 grams three times a day, or:

    4 teaspoons three times a day for 3-5 days beginning the day after chemo.

     No side effects have been reported with the intake of supplemental glutamine. It is not recommended for patients with severe kidney or liver disease.

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2010

    Hi All,

    Three days out of chemo and now I am going to try a step and sculpt class. My favorite. I hope I can make it. My daughter said there is no shame in sitting of to the side if I have to and my husband said I can only go if I go with my girlfriend who is a Dr. So I got her lined up. I hope it goes well because physical fitness is important to me. I hope I do not fail at my class tonight. I may have to take it easy but i am going to do it.Does anyone else like to exercise or have you tried it?

    Take care,

    Trusting

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2010

    Thanks kaycee!  I will definitely ask my onc about that!  I still have neuropathy from my last chemo, and will be starting Taxol in Aug.  Not to mention the mouth sores from the ac....

  • lauriez
    lauriez Member Posts: 41
    edited June 2010

    Hi everyone-was reading some posts last night around midnight. There have been a few people that are on the same regimen as I am that have posted day 14 is the day their hair started coming out. I pulled on my hair, sure enough-big clump. Had me feeling weird-not upset really, I knew it was inevitable and my hair is short anyway, so I don't think it's going to bother me to be bald (who knows though huh?!). I guess it is the fact that it makes this whole thing REAL. I have had minor SE from the chemo and neulasta and have felt pretty good over the last 4 days-easy to kind of go into denial, especially now that I feel healed from my surgery. Started cleaning like a madwoman (control, you know)! Remember that "mental clarity" I mentioned earlier.....clear mind went out the window once  the hair started coming out-the hairs must be little pieces of brain on them because I was in a fog all day, (and this was before dose number 2 today at noon today.) It was my firstborn's twelfth birthday today and we had arranged a play date with someone that she likes very much and has never had the chance to get together with outside of school. Picked up the kids and friend after chemo and was driving down the road. Heard fire truck sirens and could see the truck coming toward us to the light I had stopped at. Once my light turned arrow green, I proceeded to pull out into the intersection before the truck passed-DUH.....Wasn't a close call for accident or anything just totally improper etiquette. I told the kids that Mom is "stupid" today and they laughed. OK-so here's something funny. I hope this isn't TMI but I have a few small hemorrhoids which have been bothering me because of loose stools (thank goodness not constipation!) Anyway, I used some preparation H this morning.. After I at the cancer pavilion for a while-getting labs, seeing the onc. I used the restroom. I looked down at the inside of my khaki pants and there's a line of "grease" from the prep H. A big one, mind you that goes up the back end and is entirely visible to anyone looking at me walk away. OMG-hilarious. I borrowed some scrubs for the rest of the visit. My family is going to crack up at this one!!! OK-this foggy girl is going to be getting' to bed early tonight. Take care all. Laurie

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited June 2010

    Trusting- I have been exercising a little too... mainly walking and light stretching, I do it at home so I can rest when I need to... but I think it will really motivate you to be in a class.

  • lauriez
    lauriez Member Posts: 41
    edited June 2010

    Trusting: I have not been on a consistent excercise program in a while. This spring/summer I have become obsessed with my garden and landscaping and get a great work out weeding, transplanting, etc. Although it tires me out (and I do rest every afternoon) I do think it helps with the SE. I think taking a class would be great! Laurie

  • LuvUMom
    LuvUMom Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2010

    Thank you TMarina, marilyn7, dsa-outtahere, DesignerMom, and others for your kind words and encouragement.  My mother went to her first TC chemo today.  She chewed on ice chips and chilled her finger and toe nails with frozen peas during Taxotere.  She didn't have the "metal taste" in her mouth thanks to the tips about ice chips.  She had a slight allergic reaction on her right eye lid during Taxotere, which was taken cared of by the Benedryl drip, but no other discomfort.  She and I both were relieved that we got the first treatment out of the way.  We just hope that she and others going thru chemo will have no/ mimimal se.

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited June 2010

    Question, other than blood counts, what other labs does your oncologist do during your chemo treatments, and how often?  

    Feeling very scared and depressed tonight for some reason.

    Julia

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2010

    Now I need urgent advice from anyone losing their hair already with a small child. My hair starting coming out in clumps today (4 days after 2nd AC), and I have to shave it off. I don't know what to tell my 2 year old daughter about it (she knows mummy is not feeling well, but that's it). I don't want her to get scared or upset about it, and I also don't know how much i want to wear a wig so I don't want to freak her out when she sees me taking my wig on and off. I also don't want her to get upset about her own hair and try to cut it off.Any advice from anyone who's "been there, done that"?

    Julia - my onc doesn't do any tests in between except for blood counts - i've had 2 AC so far, and will only see the onc after the third one. Maybe she'll order more tests then. I also have to do another heart echo test after the last AC.

    Glad to hear about the red look from the steroids - I thought i was getting sunburnt even though i've been really careful about sunscreen and hats.

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2010

    workmother -they can poo poo the ice/frozen stuff for your mouth all they want.  I chewed on ice and didn't get mouth sores.  I'm also on AC/T like you.  I wore Seabands, but they annoyed me after a while!  I hope everything goes well for you.  Good Luck!!!!

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2010

    sandiddstn - I would call them about the port. Mine was annoying for the 1st week, but not really painful.  I also have had a bmx, but already had the implant exchange surgery (so I don't have expanders anymore). 

    Beanius - I am really hoping your chemo date sticks and you're able to start next week!

    Latte - my sister went through chemo with her 8 year old daughter last year. She had her head shaved and picked up my niece from school with her wig.  My niece freaked out at first.  My sister said it was a good learning experience about how it's not important on how you look on the outside (it's about the inside).  She also would tease my niece and pretend she was an alien.  Our family has a funny sense of humor!  My niece adjusted, though!  :)

    So - MY HEADACHE WENT AWAY!!!!  Yeah!!!!!  I stopped taking my anti-nausea meds last night.  I honestly didn't want to wake up and take them.  I woke up early this morning with no headache.  I don't know if it was the meds or if my body just adjusted to the chemo. Or if it was the many prayers I said yesterday for the headache to go away!!!!!!  I felt way better today. I was still a little fatigued, but had tons of energy compared to the past few days.  :)

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited June 2010

    Day 6 after first tx of AC, so far so good, Smile, i swear i can smell the AC in my body!  i have had some headaches but heard that was due to the meds that keep me from getting sick, i should be starting my period in the next week or so, i hear that will stop as well.. ive been a cleaning freak this last couple of days and cant seem to stop. i think it keeps my mind busy... i hope your all well this week and free fron SE!!!

    love to all

    Chey..

  • CEBsMom
    CEBsMom Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2010

    Well, Day three and not so hot.  Joint pain in my upper legs and some nausea.  Debating on whether to go into work or work from home.  May just take the day but afraid it will get worse and don't want to miss too much work.  Took some IB and compazine--hoping it will kick in. 

    My oncotest came back 50--it could have been worse but the doc did decide to go w/ six treatments.  Ughhh--seems like 1000x more than four treatments. 

    My daughter is getting very 'clingy' (she's eight) and I know she's just afraid although I assure her 'mommy' is going to be ok and that this is temp.  She goes to church camp next week and I'm trying to get her to stay w/ her 'maw-maw' but I think she is afraid to leave me.

    Seeing her fears is a 1000x worse than any chemo cramps.

    Probably decided against polar caps---but could be that I'm just tired.

    LoveUMom--Hang in there and be strong for your mom!  I know it is tough--I saw my mom go through chemo.  My turn now and I wished I would have been around for her more.  God has an amazing way of opening your eyes. 

    All --take care--my prayers are w/ you all!!

  • djoellp
    djoellp Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2010

    Hello Ladies!  Sorry it's been a little while since I've chimed in.  I started chemo last Friday, 6/18.  The day before, I received a call from the nurse at my Oncologist's office stating I was eligible for the Clinical Trail but my Insurance wouldn't cover it.  Actually, it was a lot more involved than that but I won't bore you with those details.  So, I started Doxorubicin and Cyclophosphamide.  Cheyanna, looks like we started the same day!  Wink  I had the shot of Neulasta the next day.  I was pretty tired the first two days and started feeling crappy last Sunday.  I've learned the importance of staying ahead of the nausea by taking the anti-nausea med regularly.  Before the chemo, I saw my Oncologist.  He had some bad news for me.  The result of my PET/CT scan revealed 3 other lymph nodes that are positive behind my chest muscle on my right side.  BUMMER!!!  I have been told that surgery to remove those lymph nodes is very difficult and they just don't do it.  So, I pray that chemo and radiation will kill the cancer there. 

    MzCaprcorn - Having a port is the way to go!  The nurse just connects to it and you do not have to be poked in the arm.  It's great!

    I went to the Cancer Center at my hospital yesterday and got a free wig and a little night cap and a scarf.  They also gave me a nice organizer binder.  I signed up for the Look Good - Feel Better class for next month.  I'm really looking forward to that based on what you girls had written about it. 

    Despite everything, I continue to be grateful for everything in my life.  This is just a "bump in the road" for us, right?  Thanks for listening!  Djoellp

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