June 2010 Rads

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  • Access2010
    Access2010 Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2010

    Just an update after my appointment today. They have trimmed out the radiation suite, soothing colors, cherry trim, nice artwork.  There is the tell-tale International Symbol for radiation on the big door, but other than that, I think they've done a good job making me feel like its not a dungeon.

    Doc says the treatment area is starting to turn pink, but other than that, looks good. He said he may end up prescribing a steroid cream if I start blistering in the middle of my chest between breasts (seems like he's anticipating that?). Have any of you used hydrocortisone cream for this? 

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited June 2010

    Checking in - went for my first treatment today.  In and out in no more than 15 minutes.  I feel fortunate to be living just about 5 minutes from the treatment center, so this does not take too long.  Hope the skins holds during the 33 treatments.  Every 5th treatment they'll take an x-ray to make sure we are still targeting the right area. 

    I asked the nurses about putting on gels.  They told me the usual but also said to put some on the back, same general area as the front.  I'm starting with the Fruit of the Earth Aloe Vera gel and then may use Radiaguard tonight.

  • spendygirl
    spendygirl Member Posts: 231
    edited June 2010

    Hi everyone - count me in.  I'm two weeks post lumpectomy today.  Verrrrry swollen.  Had second visit with the radiation oncologist today, just waiting for Oncotype DX results to schedule simulation.  I'm nervous, but not terrified.  I work with a woman who was diagnosed three years ago this month, just suffered brain mets.  She had successful brain surgery, undergoing radiation and tonight is in the ICU.  They're not sure what's going on yet.  So today, I am thankful for where I am in this journey.  Thank you all for sharing.  As I'm sure you all know, it is so helpful and encouraging to be here.

  • Sherster26
    Sherster26 Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2010

    I have completed a week and a day of rad tx, so far.  I have 27 more treaments to go.  No SE's yet (hopefully not at all).  I am using Aquaphor that I picked up from Walgreens, and being a school teacher, I have been able to schedule treatments during the summer, so I don't have to miss work (like I did with 4 months of chemo).  Good luck and God bless to all here.

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited June 2010

    Spendygirl, hoping that your Oncotype score will be a low one. My lumpectomy was done at the end of 2009 and then another reexcision in mid Jan to clean up the margins.  I try to focus on the bright side since there are many good survivor stories, too.  We can beat the odds!

    Sherster26, good to hear the news on the SE (or the lack of).  They say it usually starts by the end of the 2nd week, so I hope you can escape them!!  

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    OK, 4 tx down 12 to go. I am SOOOO happy the radonc let me do the Canadian protocol. Facing that machine 33 times would really be hard for me.

    redsoxfan: (go Rays!) re: lung-I started having a dry cough after 2tx. Thinking that can't be good. Doc on vaca til Fri.

    mixin: re: machines - I close my eyes and call on God to protect my good cells and then I chant "Die cancer die!!". Seems to work for me so far. Eyes must be closed though.

    Karen: So glad you are done! Best wishes!

    Spendygirl & Faithfulc: You can do it girls! One foot in front of the other!

    Sherster26: You GO!!

  • mixin
    mixin Member Posts: 48
    edited June 2010

    I just finished #10 today and the doctor thought everything is going well. He said we'll be keeping our eyes out for any potential problems with the next 5 tx. I have a little tenderness here and there but nothing very bothersome.

    BarbaraA:  Thanks. That sounds like a great idea! I think I'll try it. I did pray my way through the MRI; I learned that with help, I _can_ control panic Smile 

    Every time I get positioned on the table, something starts itching, or hurting, or going to sleep. Today, an eyelash fell in my eye. During the 3rd tx, I had a mini-meltdown on the table because of stinky pits.. a tear rolled into my ear and I couldn't even move to wipe it away. It just brings home how helpless I feel sometimes; thankfully, there are things we can control with this horrid disease.

    spendygirl: I'm sorry for your friend; I have one who has throat cancer and they just found more in his leg. 

  • redsoxfan
    redsoxfan Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2010

    Had the simulation today.  Everyone was pleasant, efficient, resposive.  Met with rad onc who answered all my questions and accepted my assertion that this invisible procedure called for a real leap of faith. He was reassuring and not judgmental.  Even asked what he could do to help me with the trust issue.  Truly, there's nothing.  I know it's just something I need to get through.  I've done what I could do:  seek out what I believe is a top notch team.  Then he showed me some of the "slides" from the CAT scan.  My heart is completely out of the line of fire, but will get some radiation scatter along with everything else.  He also said that about 11.5% of my left lung will be radiated.  Of course I wish this could be avoided. More than anything else, though, I want to be rid of any remnant of the tumor that may still be there, left from the biopsy or the excision.  Only cried a little today.  Was surprised when the rad onc said that for many women the first day can be emotional.  This made me like him more. 

    I'd like to mention that the tech told me to try to avoid taking a deep breath because doing that exposes more of my lung to radiation.  For me, now that I'm thinking of it, this could be a problem.  BarbaraA, just as you did, I closed my eyes.  Mixin, when I closed my eyes, I prayed. That's how I got through my mri too.  Kind of a chant.

     Emu oil tonight. Real machine tomorrow.  11:24 AM.

    The rest of the day was lovely, actually.  Had a delightful dinner on this early summer evening with my family at Quincy market. One of the sweetest birthdays I can remember having.  More so because, since this all began, I've become so much more aware that life is precious and that my family is a gift.  I feel so blessed.

    Good luck to all of you.  I love reading your thoughts and experiences.  We can do this!!

    God bless us all.

    PS  BarbaraA- Tampa can feel the hot Bosox ready to move up and tackle the Yankees.  Watch out! Laughing

  • NotAgain2015
    NotAgain2015 Member Posts: 223
    edited June 2010

    Redsoxfan, your note brought tears to my eyes.  I go for my sim tomorrow and I'm feeling and thinking everything you so beautifully stated...  I'm left side too and the thought os what the radiation will do to my heart and lungs really scares me.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    kickonit2 and redsoxfan - Don't be scared...well be scared but know YOU CAN DO THIS. Sox, at least your doc listens to you. Mine thinks I am a big PITA and rolls his eyes when I ask questions. Great. Kick, after the sim TALK TO YOUR radonc and ASK him exactly what will get hit and how much. Mine reluctantly told me no heart and a teeny bit of lung. Teeny to him but it's MY lung.

    Today was #5 of 16 tx. Have been having dry cough since Sat and lung tightness and shortness of breath yesterday PM. Seemed better today but yesterday didn't start until 3 hours after tx. Doc on vaca but standin doc said to see if it gets worse and if so, we'll do a chest xray. Great, more radiation. I told them to check the treatment field to make SURE everything is going where it's supposed to. Whew.

    Last night (despite having had 9 hours sleep the night before), I got so tired at 9PM, I just crashed.

    Chin up all. We can and will git R Dun!!

    PS Sox - I am totally fine with the Sox taking the damned Yankees out. Go for it.

  • mixin
    mixin Member Posts: 48
    edited June 2010

    redsoxfan: Happy Birthday!! I'm glad it was a wonderful one. Sim day was the worse one for me; it took extra long since I'm getting rads on both sides. The doctor changed the fields a couple of days later and that one took a while, too. I was/am dealing with a frozen shoulder, so it was horribly painful.

    Each day does get a little better, though. My techs are really nice and the tx goes pretty fast. Once each month the hospital hires a massage therapist and treats patients to a freebie. Mine was today and it was great!! By the time we reach this point in our journey, we've been through enough bad stuff that the good things are extra sweet.

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited June 2010

    Yesterday after the second treatment it was time to meet with the doctor.  My regular doctor was on vacation, so I saw someone else.  He was very nice and patient.  I asked to see my treatment plan and he brought in my files.  There was one printout that had 6 CT scan pictures with the radiation "topography" and he explained what was going to happen.  I asked for a copy of it and he said he'll have a color copy prinited out for me so I can pick up today. 

    Take the matter into your own hands and ask for your plan.  These plans, just like the MRI, CT, mammogram and any other test we've gone through, belong to us.  The hospitals are just keeping them for us and should not hesitate to give us a copy when we ask for one.

  • amIdoneyet
    amIdoneyet Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2010

    Hello everyone! It has been awhile since I posted, but it took 3 weeks to finalize my plan.  I went for simulation today and reveived 3 more tatoos (ouch!).  I don't know how I'm gonna make it through ever getting a real tattoo.  I begin Monday and am scheduled to have 30 treatments, so if every thing goes as planned, my last appt will be 8/9.  My therapists are pretty vague as to what to use, only saying no aluminum based deodorant, and heavily scented lotions or creams.  Also saying that if I have any problems they have a cream they can give me.  So Monday of course, I will be asking for the cream, I like to be prepared on the front end.  Any way I am looking forward to getting started so I can be finished.  I had my first post-surgery chemo of Avastin on the 14th.  I really had no problems other than a throbbing headache and extreme tiredness.  Not sure if these are side effects or if it was just a long day for me.  Anyone have any experience with receiving Avastin as a single agent?  As usual blessings to all.......

  • NotAgain2015
    NotAgain2015 Member Posts: 223
    edited June 2010

    I met 'the machine' today.  I start on Monday too - I'm either having 26 or 32 treatments, not sure yet.  I'm all marked up and ready to go. They suggested aloe vera capsules from the health food store - so I'll be in search of those this weekend. 

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    Well, 7 down 9 to go. Monday is the halfway point. YAY!! Still have the dry cough and lung tightness which they swear is a cold, not rads. Too glad to be almost halfway to even argue. Chin up all and enjoy the rad-free weekend.

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited June 2010

    BarbaraA, glad you are almost halfway done.  I wish I had only 16 in total.  Just finished my first week and I'm slightly pink.  I hope for the next 5 weeks my skin will hold up.  Have a good weekend, everyone.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    Faithful, go out right now and get emu oil. I put it on 3-4 times a day and even after 7 treatments, I am not even pink. Fingers crossed I can get through without major skin stuff. So far so good. Enjoy your weekend off ladies!

  • redsoxfan
    redsoxfan Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2010

    kickon2it, mixin, BarbaraA, and all Junes:

    Well, 3 down and 27 to go.

    You know that visual joke where you wet your index finger in your mouth and touch it to your butt and it sizzles?  That's all I could think of for the last three days when I got home and took off my totally sexy hook-and-eye close-in-the-front white cotton sporty bra.  My left breast really gets hot.  And a little pink and a little swollen.  Lots of aloe and emu oil (w/a little vitamin E)-->back to normal by morning. Hopefully, this program keeps working.

    Kind of concerned about the morning cough.  We've got the A/C going (Thank God for A/C) so it's not pollen.  But definitely junky and hard to get up.  I believe it's lung irritation from the radiation.  Hopefully, this will be the extent of the lung effect.  Doing a lot of deep breathing.

    My daily routine:  Load the car with a bag in case I decide to stay in town; also small cooler with cold water (Someone, somewhere wrote to drink water like your life depends on it, so I try to); 8AM Mass (with A/C); home for a last pit stop; one and a half hour -two hour drive (depending on traffic); valet park (nice guys); radiation around 11:30AM; some days lunch with friend or family; reverse direction. Never minded driving.  Car is comfortable.  Have the radio, cd's, cell phone, A/C.  Thinking about books on tape. Yes, I'm obsessed with A/C.  I used to love the summer heat and wasn't bothered much by the humidity.  But the sauna sessions (too steamy,sustained [are they coming in multiples?] to be called hot "flashes")  have changed that and the da*n things seem to be prevented and definitely shortened with A/C.

    When I start tamoxifen, I may need the A/C even in the wintertime. Or maybe I could sleep next to an open window....

    Some of the radiation techs are more pleasant than others.  They're all obsessive about positioning and I'm grateful for that.  There's a computer in the room and on the screen there's an outline of the portions of the breast that will be treated that day.  The linear accelerator is only on when the red light turns on and the warning sound buzzes.  I wonder if I don't inhale while the buzzer is on, can I help minimize lung damage?  Any thoughts?  Will ask on Monday.  Or Tuesday when I see the rad oncologist.

    Looking forward to hearing from all.  The good, the bad, the ups and downs, the routines.  How your skin and your stamina and your psyche are holding up. 

    Honestly, it's wonderful to not be going through this alone, isn't it? 

    God bless us all.

    PS  BarbaraA--If the Rays can take out the Yankees, I'm a fan.

  • chita
    chita Member Posts: 48
    edited June 2010

    I"ve finished 15 of 33 treatments.  Last weekend I got little itchy bumps on the treatment area.  I think it is because I sat outside in the sun and it was hot. I didn't expose my skin, but the sun was beating on my chest.  The tech told me to use 1% hydrocortisone cream and that helped.  It's back to normal now, it gets really pink by Thursday, but calms down over the weekend.  So, I'm hoping it will continue this way to the end.  My nipple is tender and pretty dark, but all in all just feels like a minor sunburn.  I do get tired more easily, don't have as much energy and am basically working and going home and relaxing.  I'm using Miaderm, which is cooling and non greasy.  I also sometimes use 100% aloe and the Xclair they gave me at the oncologist. I"m crossing my fingers that this is as bad as it gets.

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited June 2010

    Barbara, where do you buy emu oil?

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    Faith I get it at my local health food store. Or you can google emu oil and order online.

  • mixin
    mixin Member Posts: 48
    edited June 2010

    I had a hard time keeping my spirits up this week. It's just really difficult to see what some of the other cancer patients are going though. An 82 year old lady goes before me; she has to have 44 treatments to her lung. A new one comes after me and she's been through chemo already. She's in a wheelchair but always smiles and says "hi"; her dh looks like his whole world is falling in on him.

    My skin is doing good after 13 treatments; whenever anything begins to heat up, I put cool washclothes on the places until the heat goes away. My right one gets 3 zaps and the left one gets 2; the triangular place on my upper chest seems to get the hottest. Probably because there isn't any fat there?

    My energy was about zip yesterday; that was the first time I've really noticed it being low. Maybe my attitude contributed. I had a talk with the radiologist about how cancer can enter the blood stream, even with no node involvement... and found that whole discussion kind of depressing. The only thing certain about this disease is that it's horrid. 

  • bambers88
    bambers88 Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2010

    I second the Emu oil. You can get it at Sunflower Markets, Whole Foods Markets, Sprouts Markets - any of the natural foods stores. I also use Comfrey Salve Compound. It's done wonders with my scars. 

    I finished week two of rads. Every day I threaten to stop going. When I saw my Rad Onc last week, I insisted on black and white answers from him. Keep in mind my dx was stage 4 with a 5.5 x 5.8 cm tumor, multiple suspicious lymph nodes and mets to the bone. I did 7 rounds of TAC and  I had a complete clinical response, Turns out, after a change of onc and surgeon,  what they had told me was mets to the bone was only arthritis and suddenly my dx was upgraded to stage IIIC. Nice. I had a bi lat mast with no nodes taken out (I refused) in March and the pathology came back normal healthy tissue. Even nicer. So I ask the rad onc what percentage is my risk of recurrence. He told me 50% chance it will return somewhere - 75% chance it will return in the same place if I don't follow through with the rads. If I do finish rads, it brings that down to 40% with the rest of me staying at 50%. I nearly fell off my chair. 

    So a couple hours go by and he calls me on the phone. He said he had been thinking about it and those numbers he gave me were general but for my case specifically, he said given my response to chemo, those percentages would only be a third of that. Quite frankly, the inconsistancys throughout this from the very beginning are rather unnerving even more so than learning you have cancer. With as many PET scans MRI's and CT scans as I have had, on top of doing this radiation, I probably WILL get cancer again...........  

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    mixin  Please try to take today and just rest. This %^$&ing disease sucks but I believe half the battle is attitude. Just rest and put on your battle gear tomorrow and get on with the war.

    bambers88 - how great not to have mets but your radonc needs to grow some compassion. Your chemo response was great. No reason to think you won't have a great response with rads. Attitude! You are almost there, only 1 week and a half. Keep going. Throw everything at the the sucker! Attitude!

    You are both in my prayers.

  • mixin
    mixin Member Posts: 48
    edited June 2010

    BarbaraA: thanks for the prayers.. I need all of them I can get. I haven't been especially depressed about this; I don't know exactly what's come over me this week.

    bambers88: I wonder if we get too caught up in the %s? In the beginning, I was told 95% of mammos like mine were nothing, then 95% of the "somethings" were nothing to worry about, then 90% of cancers like mine are curable, then .. oops... we find a cancer in each breast, which is very unusual (see how I keep falling into that other little 5-10%?), then my Oncotype score of 19. Then I see how much rads reduce all those %s. Well, it can get pretty crazy, can't it? Most of the time, I look at it that it is what it is and there is a higher power and a life plan.

    redsoxfan: what a long drive!! I only have an hour round trip and it seems long sometimes. My little town doesn't have a decent grocery store or shopping malls; so I do my errands after my treatments. 

    On a positive note, I went to a second-hand clothing store and bought a bunch of tank tops and brightly colored shirts to wear to my treatments. I rarely wear a bra and tuck the soft material between my breasts and stomach when I'm sitting down so I don't get skin-on-skin. 

  • kmom
    kmom Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2010

    I finished week 3 of rads - 14 treatments done, 11 to go! Everyday I count off another 4% done. My skin so far is pretty good - it's a little red and little flakes of skin are coming off. My radiation oncologist said as long as I don't blister, my skin is doing well. The worst thing right now is the fatigue. I am trying to sleep more, but still tired in the morning when I wake up. I have to teach 8-12 every morning, then I go to rads and try to go home to put aloe gel and have a little nap before I pick up my daughter. Sometimes my husband takes me, especially when I am running late - he can get the car and pick me up in front of my building (we work in adjacent buildings on campus). One day this week, I was REALLY tired. I lay down to take a nap at 3pm, and didn't wake up until 6am the next day! Luckily it was a day that my husband was driving, so he picked up our daughter afterschool. But there are also times during the day that I feel fine, so the fatigue comes in waves. That makes it difficult to anticipate what I can do. It is a bit frustrating at times. But it is nice to be able to "talk" to others on this forum.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2010

    Oh kmom, I hear you about the fatigue. Friday I lay down for a nap at 5 PM and didn't move until 6AM. Saturday same thing. Just got up from a 2 hour nap today. Maybe I got enough sleep stored up and I'll be OK for the coming week. Wishing all us Juners a great week ahead.

  • Ana1973
    Ana1973 Member Posts: 88
    edited June 2010

    I am beginning week 3 today. As of Friday my skin was turning pink, breast ached a little and has a "thick" feeling. I still have 5 more weeks to go and am worried how my skin will manage. I am constantly putting on aloe, lotions etc to keep the skin issues at bay, but it doesn't seem to be working as well as I had hoped. The fatigue is becoming as issue for me also. I was ok for the first week and a half, but have noticed my sleeping habits changing. I used to sleep about 7 hours a night, now its more like 9 hours a night. After I get home from my rads appt I just want to sleep. I used to make wonderful meals for my hubby, now I just don't have the energy to do it. PB&J anyone...ha!

    Good luck to all of us in the week ahead!

    Ana

  • Dilly
    Dilly Member Posts: 655
    edited June 2010

    ANA, Today was #9 of 36 tx for me. I didn't respond well to aloe (at ALL!), but am now using Miaderm - you have to order it by phone or online, and my rad onc says he likes it the best.  It's working better for me. Miaderm is a smooth & light cream and the tech says it absorbs into the skin better than some other products.

    I've also had some good results with Aquaphor, but it's thick & harder to wash off.  My nipple is still tender from the Apr 28 surgery, and I smear on Miaderm, then use some Aquaphor on top of that, and place a soft piece of flannel over the nipple & breast area -- the gooey Aquaphor holds the flannel in place so no shirt rubbing against that tender spot. I'm wearing the softest shirts I can find, but they still rub the nipple when I move, but the flannel held in place has helped me a lot.  I can't find any sports bras or etc to wear, so I'm just winging it as best I can.

    I bought a big jar of PB, plus some heat & eat foods for days like these. Hah.

    Time for my morning nap.  I have early a.m. appts, and like you, am sleeping more.

    I wish my techs were more obsessive about positioning.  Last week's tech was very careful, this weeks' seems to just say "good enough."  This is a concern...

     Good luck to us all is right! Best wishes to all.

    Kathryn

  • rayofsun
    rayofsun Member Posts: 204
    edited June 2010

    day 9 of 26 for me. skin is ok, using aquaphor but i am very achy and tired. i also am noting that when i am sleeping my hands fall asleep and also i seem to swell easily in my fingers. i did some research on rads  and aching and there is some out there.

    ray

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