Chemo June 2010

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  • janny99
    janny99 Member Posts: 119
    edited June 2010

    Has anyone started losing their hair yet?  I am on weekly Taxol/Herceptin and had my 3rd infusion today.  I am constantly checking my hair (and the shower drain) but so far my hair is hanging in there.  I guess today would be considered day 14 since my first round of chemo.  My nurse navigator did tell me that with weekly Taxol, that my hair might start to "thin" rather than come out quickly.  Just wondering...not that I want to lose my hair, but the 'not knowing when' is bothering me.  I feel pretty good today. 

     My parents came to visit this week, and it feels sooo good to have them here, if even for just a short week!  They live in Minnesota, and I'm in Colorado...I really need them right now.  I thought this would be a good time to lose my hair, so I have my mom to help me through (yep, still need my folks to 'make it all better', even though I am 49).

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2010

    Hi Isla,

    I don't think anything is TMI here :-) I had my second found of AC yesterday, and got my period that afternoon (it's more or less when i was due to get it, and it seems like a regular period). I was also surprised, because I was told by my onc that my periods would stop and likely not return. But then I figrued that maybe my body isn't far enough into the chemo yet?

    Latte

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2010

    Hi all,

     I had a bad experience yesterday with my second round of AC - it took 2 nurses and one dr 5 attempts to get a vein, and they burst two veins on the way. I don't need this added stress and pain, so have asked for a port. 

    Can anyone in the group who has a port give me some tips on things to know or ask before I get it, and any tips for after I have it in? Especially from people who had it inserted after they started chemo - is there anything impt to know?

    I would appreciate any info at all.

    Thanks,

    Latte

  • lauriez
    lauriez Member Posts: 41
    edited June 2010

    Hi All- I had my first dose of A/C June 9 and will be going for my 2nd dose 6/23. Day 5 was my most difficult day-extremely fatigued. Did what I could, and napped in between. I'm so greatful that my kids are at an age that they can just roll with this. Besides my shingles pain, I only had a few episodes of mild nausea-I feel so lucky. My appetite however is down-which is not a bad thing-if I lose some pounds over this, it will be a good thing. I do eat healthy. I haven't really noticed big changes in taste-just a little bit of smell aversions to some foods. I had my stitches taken out of my mouth (oral surgery on June 8) and the Dr. put me on another antibiotic, just in case (my wbc's were 1.7, and predicted to go lower). My shingles seem to be going away, my mouth has healed well (no mouth sores), and honestly, since Friday I have felt really good. It is so weird but I have had major mental clarity since Friday. It feels good, instead of being in a fog, like it seems I have been in since being diagnosed.I have become an avid gardener (4 years ago I despised even pulling weeds) and now I'm tending to a huge garden, doing some landscaping, and loving it. Maybe it's the physical exercise . that is making me feel good. I still take a rest time every afternoon, then get a second wind and do not know when to stop (much to my husbands irritationTongue out ) After I explained the joy I am feeling while gardening, and my concern that I may get sicker after this next round (hence the motivation to get as much done as possible), he was much more understanding.

    kitty: I can relate to the "day 5" wall-I've also read that other people have experienced this on Day 5. It'll get better!

    Isla: I started my period 4 days ago and was a bit concerned that the initial heavy bleeding would really drop my hemoglobin. My period is almost gone now, even with a low platelet count.

    Latte: My port placement went well (June 2) and was done under "conscious sedation". I had a nice cocktail nurse and told her to take good care of me. My site was quite sore for at least 10 days, but just sore to the touch. I have a Rx for Emla cream, which is applied to the port site 45 minutes prior to blood draws or treatment. It really does numb the area and I could barely feel the needle. Anything that will keep apprehension and anxiety at bay is worth it, I say. I hope you have as good experience with your port placement. I can't imagine the anxiety you must have faced going in for your treatment, if you knew your veins were poor to begin with. Good luck with your port if that is what you choose to do. So, anyhoo......1 down and 3 more to go (of the first part anyway). I'm just so glad to be moving forward and not waiting!

    Stay strong my friends-you can do this....

    Laurie

    PS Everyone has a cool user name-I'm going to come up with one myself!

  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited June 2010

    The whole period thing, I got mine with my first treatment of ac and it lasted just about the whole two weeks until my second treatment.  It is gone now, hopefully stays away!

  • angelwoman1
    angelwoman1 Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2010

       Okay, Every time I write in on this I very seldom get a reply from anyone. I am jealous. You guys are so great though,I just cant stay away. Maybe I am just not as interesting as some of you! Well, anyway,Next Chemo is 6/24 thursday. God Bless to everyone. We can get though this.

  • angelwoman1
    angelwoman1 Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2010

    Latte-On the port issue. I have one and it is the greatest thing I have done. They gave me Lanocaine and I put on an hour before treatment (but really dont need it) and it is numb. It is about a 1 inch incision,it just hooks right up. they will take out when ALL you treament are done. Hope I could help.

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited June 2010

    Latte- Ask what kind of port you're getting... I have a "power port" that can also be accessed with dyes for tests like MRI, etc. Some ports can not be used for nuclear tests, so check to see which you're getting.

  • NorthernGirl
    NorthernGirl Member Posts: 67
    edited June 2010

    Trusting:  Thanks for the info regarding the chest pains.

    I saw my onc yesterday ... all tests confirm there is nothing wrong with my heart, so he recommended better pain meds. He said the Neulasta may be the source of the pain. Your advice sounds more accurate. I hope the chest pains don't get worse with the next infusion. It's a bit scary.

     My hair is coming out in bunches. I am so glad I got it cut short. My first chemo was June 4 ( second chemo is on June 25)  and the hair loss began on day 14, right on schedule.

    Best wishes girls

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2010

    Angelwoman-->hi and God Bless you too!Laughing Good advice on the port!

    Latte-->I just want to add my 2 cents to the port thing.  I've had mine for over a year, and love it.  I don't even notice its there anymore.  I, too, use the Emla cream to numb it before its accessed.  Some people don't need it, but I prefer it numb!  Ask for the "power port", like RS711 said, so you can use it for ct scans and such.  Really saves the veins!  You'll need to carry a card with you to prove that it is a power port, if you get one. I had planned to have my port removed after my ct scans for my colon cancer follow-up, but am of course now using it for bc.  I will leave it in until I no longer need any tests/chemo for at least 6 months.  My doc said its up to me when I want it removed. Oh, and I was awake, also, when they put the port in--but there was no pain.  I was sore for about 5 days.

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2010

    About hair....its been 8 days since first ac (the fatigue fog is finally lifting!), and my scalp is getting sore spots.  Don't think I'm losing any hair yet tho.  I'm curious about other body hair--I've heard people mention the nose hair--but has anyone lost leg hair yet?  When I shaved today my legs weren't nearly as hairy as I expected them to be, as I haven't shaved in a few days.  Anyone else notice that?

    I still haven't ordered scarves/hats yet.  I do have a wig from ACS.  I'm going online to TLC this morning and odering some stuff.  My 22 DD wants to order a matching scarf--I thought that was sweet of her!

    T

  • twinmomjackie
    twinmomjackie Member Posts: 24
    edited June 2010

    I was just talking to a friend who started chemo in March and she suggested coconut water to help with fatigue. Has anyone else heard of this? I'm going to start taking B6 and B12 as one of my nurses made that suggestion.

    I am sad to read that not everyone has lost their periods. I was kind of hoping that there might be some bright spots to chemo: no periods, no leg shaving and maybe even some weight loss. Now I find that I may still have a period and thanks to the steroids one of my onc. nurses told me that many women gain weight. I swear since this breast cancer adventure began it is a new indignity everyday. Did I mention that I had a curious line down my forearm that started where they put my IV in my hand? I called the nurse and she said it was no biggie the Taxotere can stain the inside of the vein and that it would go away on its own. See what I mean, a new indignity each day. It's all so crazy.

    Yesterday I got a call from a Reach to Recovery volunteer through the American Cancer Society. It was nice. She's in my area and was able to give me information about local activities and best of all she shared her own experience with me and gave me her cell number if I ever need to talk.  It was super helpful. I would highly recommend it.

  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2010

    julia2,

     You asked about glutamine and I just happen to be looking at a handout given to me by Nurse Ratchet (honestly, the woman had a most unfortunate manner) at my pre-treatment meeting yesterday.

     It says that glutamine comes in a powder form and is mixed with juice or water. Avoid mixing in ice-cold liquids. The recommended dosage is 10 grams three times a day, or:

    4 teaspons three times a day for 3-5 days beginning the day AFTER chemo.

    Avoid places like GNC to purchase, they are out of this world expensive. You can sometimes find this at Walmart near the protein powders, etc., or it is available for a lot less on the net. My hubby has bought it several times at bodybuilding dot com and has been happy with their prices/service. I don't want to wait for delivery (first chemo is Friday) so I'm going to Walmart.
  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited June 2010

    Well last evening was a bit scarey.  I was slamming down water after my chemo and not peeing at all.  Figured I drank at least 4 litres of water and peed half a cup from 6pm to midnight.  Read all about the bladder related Cytoxan side effects, got really scared.  Had two conversations with the on call onc. nearly went to the emergency room, but the idea of getting a catheter in the middle of the night didn't really appeal.  Weighed before bed, definitely retaining water, my weight was up about 10 pounds!  Peeing normally this morning and weight coming down, so hopefully disaster averted, I hope we can avoid this next time.

    Julia   

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited June 2010

    5 days out from my first AC tx, so far have not been sick at all, i sleep the first couple of  days, but have since tried to get back to normal rotuine, im very worried about the days to come, my low i guess they call it? when my blood is down? im scared it wont come back up due to something else they might find wrong with me lol, but really,i am worried about it coming back up. some shedding in my hair and a couple of headaches,im  not really having any bone pain, i felt a lil something but nothing to write home about. i had the shot on Saturday so im not sure when it should hit? im still not come to terms with this yet but am being positive, i get results today on if i carry that gene brac1 2. im freaked about that. i pray for a negative, i asked for the test, as i have a sis and a young daughter.no other BC in the family except lucky me!!! 

    over all im doing good, just seem to be scared a lot!! still so new i guess,

    thanks for being here.Smile

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited June 2010

    melliss and momo2kidz-  Dang!  What fresh hell is this???  I hope your allergic reactions are settling down.  Maybe our systems are just stressed and can't handle things like they normally do??  You motivated me to go buy some disposable gloves for cleaning.  I hate rubber gloves, but I would hate hives more.

    I hope all you first timers are continuing to have minimal side effects!

  • Beanius
    Beanius Member Posts: 1,697
    edited June 2010

    Hi All, well now it looks like I'll start CMF next week, I'm penciled in for June 29. So many delays..

    Thinking of you all with best wishes!!!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited June 2010

    Beanius-  Yeah!!!  You are on your way!  You are doing the exact same chemo that I am.  Come on in, the water's great!  You are going to be fine, fine, fine!  I had my first on June 11, the anticipation was so much worse than the actual chemo.  I'm going to PM you.

  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited June 2010

    I am glad you are finally moving on Beanius.  Best of luck to you!!

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited June 2010

    Kaycee, thanks for the glutamine info, we got some last evening at the local health food grocery store.  I started taking it today.  The nurse who gave my chemo had a handout for me. 

    Julia 

  • Jenmarie9
    Jenmarie9 Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2010

    Ok- I start tomorrow morning. TCH #1.

    I am surprisingly not nervous. I was more nervous about my wig appointment this morning. I am thrilled with it! I have not taken it off. I wanted to test it out in front of the kids and the husband. None of them said a word about my hair! My husband even asked "How did it go today?" I went along with it and said "OK, but its not ready yet. I have to go back to get it cut." He then asked "When?" So, I told him "I'm wearing it." He just smiled and said "You're kidding me?!"

    Losing my hair was my biggest fear. I know, crazy, right? I know you guys get it.

    Good thoughts to all, Jen

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2010

    angelwoman - I would love to be non-interesting, if it meant no SE's!  LOL!!! 

    So today I have a massive headache! Ughh.. Energy is better, but my head hurts and all I want to do is lay down!!!

  • flopsy
    flopsy Member Posts: 365
    edited June 2010

    danielaes,

    I am starting treatment 6/28/2010.  My planned regimen is AC every two weeks for 4 tx.  Then I will have taxotere 1 every 3 wks for 12 wks.  Radiation will follow the chemo.   My diagnosis was invasive lobular with 5 +nodes.   Stage 3/A.  I would like to be added to the list.  Thnx,gin2ca

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2010

    Just wanted to post re:Neulasta.  Had my shot last Tues. (1 week ago), and didn't have any pain from it then, though I did take ibuprofen and claritin the first 2 days.   Today my spine has been hurting just like when I used to get the shorter acting neupogen shots.  It starts at my tailbone and works its way up to the base of my skull.  When I stand up or sit down, or any large movement, the pain radiates up like electrical waves.  I took 3 ibuprofen and a claritin (just in case it really helps), and I feel better.  I will take Tylenol in a few hours too.  So, I guess the bone pain can happen anytime during the 2 weeks the shot lasts.  Before when I had lot of bone pain my onc said it was because my counts were low and there was a lot of activity going on in my bone marrow.  I'm guessing my counts are low now and that's why it hurts all of a sudden.  The good news is that probably means its working! Smile

    T

  • dsa-deb
    dsa-deb Member Posts: 126
    edited June 2010

    I have my 1st AC treatment tomorrow!!!  Am i nervous??  absolutely!!  But you ladies are getting thru it so I can, too.!

    got my 'chemo bag' ready to go & book to read, like i'm going to even be interested in reading....

    just give me a 'cheerleading yell' so i'll have the guts to not be so nervous----

    deb

  • kickazz
    kickazz Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2010

    NorthernGirl-  I has similar side effect of not chest pain, but short of breath like it was hard to deep breath and catch my breath.  I am a nurse and my oxygen levels were fine it was like I could feel my lungs-burning when I took deep breaths.  I would go for walks and just try to slow my breathing down and each day it was less now back to normal.  I even played soccer and was fine.  I have to go back for round two of six TCH on Friday- I am dreading it.  

  • kickazz
    kickazz Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2010

    i forgot to add-  does anyone have scalp tenderness.  My head hurts like a too tight ponytail/  I shaved my head thinking it would help-also my hair was falling out- but still very sore-tender. 

  • Isla
    Isla Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2010

    yes yes to the scalp tenderness - it was driving me bonkers yesterday and as I was 14 days post 1st AC (the one that has inevitable hair loss) and my hair was starting to fall out I went this morning and had it all shaved off.  A bit traumatic while she was actually doing it but hey, guess what, I've got a really nice shaped head (gotta be some pluses) and the dreadful tenderness and itching has totally stopped.  Sorry you still have it kickazz - feels like a head of creepy crawlies (not that I've had that!!)

  • kickazz
    kickazz Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2010

    Maybe it is because I wore a wig today and it was 97 degrees today- yuck.  I am off tomorrow so Ill go without.  Hopefully it will get better.  

  • Isla
    Isla Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2010

    A question .. why do you take glutamine.  Haven't heard it mentioned here in NZ - what does it do?? I'd hate to miss out on something exciting!

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