April 2010 starting chemo
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Well ladies, I am happy to report that I have completed my final TC today. I think this makes me first in completing chemo. I know that some of you are still in the middle of your treatment and that a few others are not too far behind me. I am thinking about all of you with more treatments to come and realize that although I'm finished the actual infusions, I still have a few weeks of SE's to deal with including the now debilitating fatigue I have been experiencing and worse stomach acid each time. (which I finally got a prescription for today). I move onto radiation in July and then tamoxifen in August.
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Congratulations shygal on completing your TC. I have a ways to go but am counting down the weeks until I am done.
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Shygal - congratulations on being all done with chemo -my last TC treatment is this coming Friday and then radiation about four weeks later.
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Hi all. Congrats to Shygal and Char2010 for being done and almost done with chemo. Even though I have 10 more weeks of TH just hearing that some of us in the April group are finishing makes me feel like the end is near for all of us.
I had my 2nd Taxol yesterday. No Herceptin this time so it really was shorter. I took an Ativan before the tx to try to fend off the nausea - between that and some really strong Eclipse gum my mom gave me to chew during the flushes, I didn't get as sick from the saline. Definitely gagging, but no vomit. So glad. The Benadryl still knocked me out for awhile after the tx, but not as much, but man, the restless legs from it while sitting in the infusion chair really drives me crazy. Feeling fine this morning - a little tired b/c I didn't sleep great, but pretty normal. So it looks like Taxol really is much easier than AC - for me at least. And without Herceptin I don't have the crazy congestion, drippy nose I had last week.
Hope you are all well today.
Sara
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Hello Ladies,
I am using this extra week to tidy up my house a bit. I'm still very tired but trying to be productive. My kids last days of school are this week, and my oldest daughter is coming home for my son, Nick's 8th grade graduation. I can't wait to see her. I miss her so much. I have been crying a lot the last few days. She is moving to North Carolina next month. Currently she lives in White Plains, NY. NC is so much further away. I just feel so weepy. It's hard.
Sara- Did you have any other SE with the herceptin besides the drippy nose? I'm a bit freaky right now worring about the herceptin SE. I read the thread on this site, and there were so many. I asked my Onc last friday and he tried to reassure me that the SE are minimal unless you have a reduced heart functions. I pray I don't get the fatigue that some of the women were writing about on that thread. A year seems such a long time to be burdened with tiredness.
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Emme - I didn't have any of those other SE I read about with Herceptin. Literally a drippy nose and that is much better this week - it was worst in the 2-3 days after the infusion and has subsided mostly. I have no fatigue like I had with AC. I really feel like myself. For real. Now it could get worse as the year goes on, but I'm going to just assume it won't!
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Shygal and Char2010--Congrats on being done and almost done with your treatments!!!!!!! Shygal, keep us posted on the rads:) Did they make you wait a certain amount of time after your last treatment before you could start? I am just wondering because I have rads after I am done with chemo. and July 14th is my last one--WOOHOO!!
Saralmom--Good to hear you did not get sick from the saline!!!! Glad it went well and the s/e's are better than A/C, I hope they continue to be mild:)
Emme--Sorry to hear your daughter is moving:( Enjoy your visit with her!! Congrats to your son on his 8th grade graduation!!!!!
Thanks for all your replies on the Neupogen shots, sorry it took so long to thank you!!! I haven't self injected yet because I had to wait for my insuance company to approve and ship them. How is it self injecting? I am a nursing student and should be fine with this since I have given shots, but oh no shots on yourself, so not the same, LOL!! The good news is the Neupogen did not effect my kidneys like the Neulasta, so that is great!!!
Hope everyone is doing well this week!! I really need to hop on here more often and follow up, unfortunately with the kids out of school and chemo. it has been hard!!
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Congrats to shygal and Char2010 -- it's good to hear that some of us are getting to the end of this part of the journey.
I have three more Taxol treatments to go, then I'm done. I don't need rads, so (knock on wood) it'll all be done by the end of July.
Karen
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Congrats to shygal and Char2010!!!
I start Taxol and Hereceptin in 2 days...maybe. I still have this stupid cold/cough and now I am getting a chest xray before I see my onc on Thursday. I might have to put off my treatment. Great.
I think I might have to apply for LTD. I am almost at my 12 weeks for FMLA since I was unable to work at all during AC. I still have a minimum of 8 weeks of missed work (that is assuming I work through the 12 weekly TH and radiation and only take 4 weeks for masectomy and 4 weeks for recontruction. I am out and paid time. I have to have an income and I can see losing my job over missed time. They just need me there too much. I HATE this. I am glad I have the option of LTD but at 35? I had someone say - "your lucky! Social Security is a given with Inflammatory breast Cancer and being at your stage (3B)!!". That is good how? I'm 35 and "sick" enough that SS does not question a claim from me. Great.
Sorry ladies. I'm mad and venting today. I feel so alone with all of this. None of my friends understand what's going on. Cancer is the best weeder of friends when you're in your 30's. Too real and too scary.
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Raerae7074--I am 35 y/o too and you right Breast Cancer does weed out the real friends from the not so real friends!!! I am sorry someone made such a heinous comment about SS, there is nothing lucky about having breast cancer:( Sending you lots of cyber hugs if that is ok?! Please feel free to vent away:)
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Glad to hear so many are getting near the end of your treatment, but I have to admit I am a bit jealous, but know my time will come too. I had a treatment of Taxol and Cyctoan today that I was finally able to tolerate. For the next two weeks I get Taxol alone, then a week off before beginning Taxol and herception for the remainder of my 12 week cycle. I was a bit flushed during my Taxol but it came and went so the treatment continued. I felt fine throughout it though. I often get flushed from nerves and anxiety and I had plently of that today. They gave me an Ativan and will do that agian next time. I took my little ones to swimmingl essons after and have felt great so far.
Best of luck to all of us as we continue!
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SCJ - Thanks for the hugs.
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SGJ05 - Re the rads timing. I know they want you to finish your chemo cycle (3 weeks in total for me) so that would have been the earliest date. However, he gave me an extra week off so I don't start radiation until July 12 which is exactly a month after my last chemo treatment. Depending on the hospital, there can also be wait times, so I know that some people have not started for 6 weeks after their last chemo treatment.
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Raeann - Sorry to hear about the comment. That was totally uncalled for. I know what you mean about weeding the friends though. I am 37 and I have had to do the same thing. Not so much for the comments but for other reasons like the talking behind my back. But that is another story.. Hope things get better. Take care all. Off for my third AC tomorrow. Getting there:)
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Congrats to shygal and Char2010!!! Rest and recover from the chemo. Be kind to yourself until you get back to normal....*what ever that is,,,it's been so long)
Raerae---I had a bilateral mastectomy on March 31...4 weeks was not a long enough recovery time. Try 6 weeks. It sucks to be young and not able to work. I work for my dad at the family business. We have a machine shop...I get a 1099 so technically I am self employed. I haven't been able to work thru the treatments, surgeries, complications and more treatments....I have been dependent on my husbands pay,,,,and things are getting further and further behind here. I don't have any disability....I am so glad that you have that to tap into.
SGJ05-
The neupogen shots are easy to give to yourself. I give them in the leg or the belly. Let them warm up and they won't sting...You can do it! Good Luck!
Tomorrow is my last AC....my counts have to be up this week. I am so excited to be finishing up this portion of my journey.
We have a new cancer center opening this month. I went to the open house on Tuesday. It's a beautiful facility. I feel so blessed by the care I am receiving.
Turn your face to the sun...it is always nicer in the light.
Emme
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Congrats to those who are done and finishing - I am super jealous!
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I finished my last AC last Friday and it has taken until this Friday to finally feel somewhat normal! They had to poke me 4 times to find a vein and now my arm is all bruised. I am supposed to start weekly Taxol's on July 5th - I don't want to. Really don't too - considering not doing it. I am soo tired of always feeling sick when I didn't start out that way. What to do? I know what family says but they are not going through it - so help! please!!
Thanks and hugs to all,
Kelli
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Kelli - I totally know how you are feeling. The AC got worse and worse as I went on, and I just felt so down and not normal all the time. I really didn't believe anyone when they told me the Taxol would be easier. I think b/c I was so used to feeling so crummy I couldn't imagine feeling better. But I've had 2 Taxols now - weekly - and it truly is not causing me any side effects. I'm not feeling sick or even tired. I am so pleasantly surprised to feel normal. The only annoying thing is having to go there every week, and I have to say the Benadryl is super annoying (knocks me out). I guess my point is that I bet it will be easier than you think, and we need to throw every gun at this beast!
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Kelli, hang in there. Just try and get through one treatment at a time and only focus on that one treatment. I figure that we have our best shot of eradicating the cancer this first time, so you want to do everything you can to make sure you don't have a recurrence. Think of it as your first attempt is always going to be your best attempt. As Saralmom knows, the Taxol wasn't as bad as the A/C.....please don't stop your treatment.....you are one step closer to the finish line. Sending (convincing) hugs your way.
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Kelli,
I have only had one weekly Taxol this past Tuesday, but I agree with the others. I have done my regular routine and felt fairly well. I have taken my kids to swimming lessons each afternoon, and attended my kids Two Pitch Ball Tournaments today. I have had a hard time with reactions to my other treatments and like you, have felt like giving up, but I am determined to put up the best fight I can against this thing because I only want to do this once. Who knows the change in drugs might be all it takes to make you feel a whole lot better.
PS When I would cry to my husband about not wanting to go back, he would simply say you know you will go back and I knew he was right. I think sometimes the frustration and anxiety just seemed to get the best of me and crying about it was the best way to let it all out.
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Hi,
Kelli - Please don't give up now! I'm on dose dense (every two weeks) Taxol, and other than it taking 3+ hours to get my infusions, I am finding Taxol to be a breeze compared to the AC. No nausea! Little, if any, fatigue! Little, if any, weird tastes! (I can drink plain water again - yay!!) The only possible SE I have had is a little prickly rash on the backs of my hands and tops of my feet, for which my onc recommended I take 4mg dexamethasone again on days 2, 3 and 4. It is not really clear whether this is an actual side effect, since the rash looks prickly heat, and we've had a spate of hot weather lately.
My thinking is, if you're going to feel bad, let's get it over with, and not have to spend the next 5-10 years dreading a recurrence because maybe you could have done more initially. You can so do this! Please don't stop now.
~Julie
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Kelli, I sent you a PM. susiesue
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Thanks Emme--I will give it a shot (no pun intended, LOL)!! Hopefully I won't wimp out-ha!
Kelli, You have gotten some great advice from everyone:) I am on TCH every 3 weeks so I can't say which is easier?! But I agree that you should throw everything you can at this now. When I had blood in my urine after cycles 2 and 3, I really wanted to quit, I mean I REALLY wanted to quit, but I want to fight this cancer with all I can, so I pushed forward. I know it is tough, but you can do it!! You have a ton of support here is you need it.
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Hey ya'll. I'm five days past my second AC treatment and I feel so much worse than after my first treatment. Will it keep getting worse each treatment? Do you have any suggestions for getting through this? I just feel nauseated and sick, even with the nausea medicine (Zofran). Its so hard. How did you do it?
I'm on dose dense AC, followed by 12 weekly T, and I'm in the double blind Avastin trial.
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mitymuffin
You and I have the same treatment plan. I just had my second Taxol yesterday. Each of my 4 AC cycles were different. My first cycle was actually my worst. In addition to Zofran I was given Compazine, kind of on an use when needed basis. One of the nurses suggested to never leave home without it, just in case.
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Mitymuffin - I had the same plan as well. Like Susiesue, my first AC was the worst as far as feeling sick - but the fatigue got worse with each tx. By the end of the 4 AC's, I wasn't really having nausea, but I was barely able to walk from the couch to the kitchen or upstairs without feeling lightheaded and fatigued. I had different meds than you, and maybe they worked on the nausea - I had Emend for 3 days, and then Compazine and Ativan as needed. I used the Ativan at night also for when I was having sleep issues and nightmares from the chemo. I took compazine more often during the day. However, even with all that, I still often just felt "off" and nothing tasted right, etc. I feel much better now on the weekly Taxol.
Sara
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Mitymuffin - I did dose dense AC (now on dose dense Taxol), and my first AC was the worst in terms of naseau/fatigue. Rounds 2 and 3 were better, with the worst days coming on days 5 & 6 (very fatigued). When it was at its worst, I just tried to do what I could and not fight it. I just ate and drank whatever sounded good, whenever I could, without worrying about having 3 square meals. Sometimes this meant snacking every two hours, even through the night. It quelled the queasiness to eat smaller meals, more frequently. Just be sure to keep on top of the constipation with meds. Surprisingly, round 4 was by the far the best for me, though I had been told it might be the worst. I think it helps if you don't get your expectations set too high or too low about how you "should" be feeling, and just take what comes at you. Like Sara, I had Emend, Zofran and Ativan. I really found Zofran effective, but sometimes when that didn't do the trick, I took Ativan on top of it. Ativan makes you a bit sleepy, so it was good to take at night.
Hang in there -- you're halfway through with AC, which is what I think is the hardest part.
~Julie
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HI all. I just finished my 3rd AC yesterday (of course on my last day of vacation:() and am not feeling to bad today just a little tired and aheadach. This is the best one yet of course I am setting myself up for the worst to come. Only one left than I start the DD T for 4 cycles. Hoping that those go better as I see those of you who are on T have found it much more tolerable. Hope you all have a good and SE free weekend.
-Jen
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Thank you all for the encouraging words! I just need to hear that others are doing this and getting through it! It seems sooo hard sometimes. Hopefully by July 5th I won't feel as bad and will get over not wanting to start my weekly taxol's ! YOU ALL ARE THE GREATEST!!!
mitymuffin - as you can see we are on the same treatment plan and are both Triple Neg. The first and last AC treatments were the worst for me! This last one really took a toll on me. One week after and still just feel like s***! With everyone's encourging words I will get through this and so will you. This group is the best support ever. With AC I took Emend for three days, zofran for four days and Compzaine plus Tamazipan (?spelling) it seemed like a lot but I got really nauseaus each time. Praying that taxol are like everyone is saying easier! ;-)
THANKS FOR ALL OF THE ENCOURGEMENT - It was soo needed and helped alot.
HUGS to all - Kelli
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Well, I'm done with the AC! This last tx wasn't so good. I had a headache with this one, something new! I'm very tired. My onc assured me that I would feel like my normal self in about a month. I am due to have a MUGA on July 1st. I think that by the end of July I will start with the herceptin treatments. I am having those infusions for 1 year.
Can we talk Expanders for a few?
I am getting fills every three weeks. I am currently filled to 700. My expanders can go to 850 and the plastic surgeon said he would push it to 900. That will put me at a full B cup. I really wanted to be a C cup. I am 6' tall and on my frame a B cup isn't enough. The plastic surgeon said he could go in and put in a larger expander and continue to fill until I get to a c cup. I feel like I have been thru so much I should get what I want for an end result. I should mention that 5 years ago I had a breast reduction from a G Cup to a C cup. What do you ladies think....is it worth having to have another surgery...am I just being vain? So many decisions....UGGGG!
Congrats to all of you finishing up this leg of our journey.
Emme
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Emme - I would go for the C cup if that is what you want. I am going to go for an elargement of the mastecomy side when I am done chemo. My plastic surgeon went by what my surgeon removed during the mastectomy and did not take into consideration what was taken out during the lumpectomy so I am about 100 less on the left side than I am on the right. With a good victoria secrets bra you cant tell with clothes on but without it you can and it just bugs me. I have gone through so much and at least one one think to look half way normal:) Hope that helps but just my opinion.
Jen
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