I am terrified of chemotherapy
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I felt like I had to go in to "get my butt kicked" every two weeks. So not fun. I do endurance events so felt this was the endurance event of a lifetime.
Nothing was as bad as getting a dental implant a year prior. No, not fun, but my take was that if I could survive oral surgeon hammering on my jaw, I could survive chemo. (My oncologist agreed.)
Having said this, I am so glad to be at the other end. Good luck.
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Bon & reading teacher - just wanted to check in again and give support. All of the others have give good advice. You can and will do this, it's okay to be scared - it natural - fear of the unknown. Know that we are all here holding your hands.........
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Bon: Honestly, you are at the absolute worst part of chemo -- fear of the unknown. It was the worst part for me... it is scary for sure. That first time, I sat waiting for something bad to happen -- it didn't. Yah, I felt crummy for a few days .. but you do it and you come out on the other side happy that you did everything you could to never go through this again. I did 6 cycles of TC - worked fulltime. I am a year out from chemo /rads -- life is good. Know that it will be for you too!
readingteacher: one down! hope you are doing well.
(((((((HUGS))))))))) to you both.
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I feel so blessed to have you all in my corner. This is what 'kindness of strangers' is all about. I am gaining strength from you and keep telling myself that I can do it. You did it or are doing it now. So I can do it, too.
I thought about 'readingteacher' all day today, hoping that she 'just showed up' and did Ok with her first treatment.
Tomorrow my port gets put in. Then the wait until next Wednesday for the first chem session.
I can do it. I will show up...Thanks to all of you. Bon
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Bon - Good luck with your port surgery tomorrow. I have a port and it has proved to be a blessing when getting treatments or drawing blood. The surgery was quick and relatively painless.
I'm a year out of chemo. Chemo treatments, like everyone has stated, is quite doable and not as bad as we had all feared it would be. I actually feared the chemo more than I feared the cancer. But having gone thru it all, I'm glad that I did everything I could to help prevent a recurrence. I had 2 rounds of Adriamycin/Cytoxan and 2 treatments of only adriamycin. The cytoxan gave me problems with my sodium count. I then had 12 rounds of weekly Taxol. I worked full-time through it all only taking time off when I felt sick which was only a few days after the A/C treatments. A former chemo nurse told me chemotheraphy has come a long way from when she first started (some 20 years ago). Back then, women had to stay in the hospital for a week when getting their chemo. Now we go in get our treatment and go home. Just remember that there may be days when you're not really feeling well but there will be days when you feel quite normal. Hope everything goes well for you.
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Wow..powerful posts.Bon and Reading Teacher, I cannot add anymore.
Bon, I was petrified as you are. I just didn't know how I was gonna do it. I found this website and that's how I did it. all you need is right here. Wonderful,caring,supportive,friendly, right by your side bc sisters.
I wish you and Reading teacher the best. It is doable...keep coming back here..you will be helping those behind you also... I will send you good thoughts and prayers.
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Bon, No one here will ever tell you to "Buck up and stop acting like a baby" We have all felt what you are feeling now. This breast cancer bitch is scary enough. I was terrified at the thought of starting chemo. But it is do-able. You've already gotten a lot of good advice. You will probably find that those administering your chemo infusion will be very encouraging and helpful. Also, chemo, today, is not as horrific as it used to be. They give you so many other meds to keep you from getting those horrible side effects. When I went for my infusions, I was given a soft comfy loung chair with heated blankets, a little TV and the nurse began my IV with Ativan drip and Benadryl, which totally relaxed me. They also gave me another med in the IV called "Emend" which prevents nausea and throwingup. after the infusions they also prescribed 3 kinds of meds to keep away any nausea. Other then the feeling of extreme tiredness and weakness and flulike feelings, the side effects are bearable. Just take your normal anagesics for pain and achy feelings in your bones and give into it. The chemo is killing those cancer cells, and you WILL GET THRU THIS.
Barb
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I know exactly how you feel. I was scared to death of treatments as well. Just two years ago, I watched my dad die of lung cancer. I saw the hundreds of mouth sores he had. All over his body including his genitals. I remember seeing the burn marks on his back from radiation treatments. I I didn't think of my outcome, just what I was about to go through. I have undergone 5 of my 8 chemo cycles. 4 of the AC's and just had my first Taxol last Monday. I was scared to death of the AC. I would just see that red juice in the IV and get nauseated. I felt like I was on death row by lethal injection. I would watch it slowly go into my vein. I was on the best nausea meds and still got nauseated. I was paying $100 a pill for Ammend and Zofram. Neither was working. I don't think that it was all in my head, but I'm sure a great deal of it was. I was also told that the Lunastas shot they give you the next day would make you sick and sore with flu-like symptoms. I never got any of those symptoms. The next day after my Taxol, I woke up with no side effects or nausea and had to ask myself if I actually went to chemo or if it was just a dream. Third day on Taxol now and I am having severe cramps and heavy spotting. I guess what I am trying to say is don't let it all get into your head and freak you out before you even start. Try some relaxation techniques such as yoga or a day at the beach prior to day of chemo. I'm trying to enjoy our beach as much as I can before the oil takes it over. Just remember this too shall pass. You will be fine. Plan a vacation when you are done with all treatments. It has helped me to focus on something positive instead of continuous dread. Good luck.
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Bon
I started chemo in January of 2009...I, like everyone else, was still in shock about breast cancer. I had a lumpectomy and had to wait until after Christmas to make treatment decisions,etc.
So, on the first day, we drive to the hospital. As we go up in the elevator to the infusion (a word I couldn't even SAY) floor, I have the sense that I just want to jump down the elevator shaft. Once we reach the floor, the door opens to a waiting room and there are sooooo many people there.
I go to the counter to check in and they hand me one of those things you get at the restaurant when your table is not ready. My first response" you have GOT to be kidding me".... then I look around-- and there, on a Friday morning in the middle of winter are what seems like hundreds of people (probably was less) and they were all waiting for treatment. I did some quick math --- the center was open every day from 7 to 7--- and this is just ONE center in a big city in one state in one country. I had to sit down-my head was spinning---is it possible that THAT many people need chemotherapy??? Well, yes it is.
They sent us to the cafeteria, and after lunch the thing started to buzz. Up I went--the first visit is the longest because of all the testing. As I sat there while they hooked it up, I realized that the experience is a very common one--- I could see it all around me. And for some reason, that gave me some peace. I was not alone. Other people were there with me. My onc called chemo/radiation "insurance" for me... and I agreed. Some might have argued that it was a little overkill, but I have young children, so it was really a no-brainer for me.
I thought of chemo as PacMan--- gobbling up any cells that might have gotten loose. It is not easy, but you CAN do it.... I did take a couple of days off after each treatment-- but I was never "sick", just tired and somewhat nauseous-which they adjusted for right after the first treatment. I used to joke with them that by the time we perfected it, I would be done (I had 4 treatments over 8 weeks-it was quick).
There are hard moments, no doubt--but I was so grateful for the benefit of the chemotherapy-- that the medicine exists to combat this-- I felt fortunate most of the time to have access to the standard of care.
Your hair will go and it will grow back. Your body will be amazing-- I was astonished at how my body healed itself and how great I feel--and I actually felt great in between treatments..... I think it was because I felt so fatigued during the treatment--- I was grateful for every little improvement. I feel so healthy now--and you will too....
As one of the first doctors met said to me "this is just a blip on the radar". I thought he was nuts, but he was right.
Just show up, do what they tell you, listen to your body and it will be over before you realize it.
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Bon - I had all the same feelings back in January as chemo was closing in on me. I'll not tell you to buck up, I'd be a hypocrite. I was the same as you, brave face but terrified on the inside. The one thing I can tell you is that after the first treatment I felt so much better about the chemo. Once I knew what would happen, how I would feel/react to the treatment and now the side effects were (not pleasant but not what I had worked them up to be in my mind) I knew I could do the rest of the treatments. That being said, every time I came up on my next treatment I had my little melt down the day before and morning prior, it's not fun but you CAN do it, you really can. You will be more at peace after you get the first one under our belt.
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Dear Bon,
You have every right to be terrified. I was exactly where you are May 2009 and very similar pathology to yours - ER-, and HER2+. The chemo is no picnic and there isn't any reason to sugar coat it. You will likely feel like crap (as I did) or you may be one of the luckier ones who don't have such a hard time with it. I never got a port so had the IV started each time. I have 2 more Herceptin treatments to go and I'm finally done! 15 months of drug therapy last year seemed like a life time to endure but its almost over. Get a prescription for Atavan to help you relax for your treatments and getting the IV. Atavan has been my best friend through all the needles. I take 2 before each treatment. I also get Echocardiograms instead of Muga Scans for my heart so I don't get that extra IV. For me the radiation was a piece of cake compared to the chemo and the Herceptin side effects are minimal. What has been a big issue for me was having medically induced menopause from the chemo as I was premenopausal. Horrible hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia - you name it. I'm on antidepressants that control the hot flashes and sleeping pills to sleep. I will celebrate July 23 which is my last Herceptin treatment and my clear clean recent mammogram. I have been off work for 14 months now and will return in September. You will endure this long haul and there is light at the end of the tunnel. Good luck to you.
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aliciah, I'm so sorry. I lost my Dad to lung cancer, too, back in 2003. His chemo wasn't bad, and gave him 9 good months. When he went , he went fast. As I work in health care, I think I was the only one in the family to realize what a blessing that was. I'm glad he didn't know I would get cancer, too. I think that would have made him feel horrible - Daddy always wants his little girl's life to be perfect, right? But I've found chemo to be a helluva lot easier than most people experience, and one of the oncologists told me that could be genetic. So, maybe Dad did make it easier on me by passing along the genes to tolerate chemo well. Thanks, Daddy.
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Bon,
I finished my chemo (TCH) one year ago with Herceptin every 3 weeks till January. I am so glad that I had chemo. Side effects weren't as bad as I anticipated and I worked full time until the last treatment and then took a break for 6 mths while on rads. Side effects were cumulative. Yoga was a great help. Drink lots of fluids, ask for a script for something for heartburn if needed. Protonix worked great and I took it for 4 months. There is a toothpaste called "Squiggle" you can buy online. It has lots of Xylitol. I really didn't get mouth sores and used only Squiggle. I took (with my doc's agreement) a B complex vitamin daily and 100 mg B6 twice daily during treatment..no other vitamins or supplements. I feel great now and have really no residual side effects. Exercising and back to normal. I'm thankful that there were meds available to eradicate this horrible disease.
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It is so helpful to have everyone's support and insight. I had my first chemo (AC) on Thursday and got through it without crying or freaking out.(Much to my surprise!) It was hardest when the adriamyacin (red devil) started in as it was the moment of no return. The nurses were helpful by explaining everything and answering my questions. I have been nauseous since Thursday night and a little tired, but it has been tolerable. I agree with the women who have said that the anticipation is worst than the actual thing. That being said, it still freaks me out that I have these chemicals in my body. (I know they are lifesavers, but...)
My onco encouraged me to go to my family reunion out of state, so I will be having my hair "trimmed" and my wig styled on Wednesday since I don't want to lose my hair while on vacation. I don't want to be bald, but am kind of ready to get it over with.
Bon-I hope you find that the anticipation is worst than the treatment.
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Readingteacher, I'm so glad that your first chemo went better than you expected. I'm sure you and the others are right, that the anticipation is worse than the event. Just glad you sound so much calmer and confident. I hope I can echo your feelings after Wednesday.
Got the port in Friday morning and still having lots of discomfort. Can't take pain meds so Tylenol is it for now. I'm sure that my shoulder and chest won't be throbbing by the time it's got to be used on Wednesday. Was surprised that this hurt so much. I was so focused on the chemo that I forgot about the port insertion.
I'm already making plans to shave my head early in July. A friend will come over and we'll buzz the hair off...don't think I can stand to see it in clumps on my pillow or the shower floor. Guess I'll go wig shopping after the first chemo...when I know it's for real. I am still in denial and keep thinking I'll wake up from a bad dream.
I thank you for sharing that YOU DID IT! Congratulations for showing up. Now I just need to do the same.
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I had a lumpectomy and a re-excision and they were a breeze compared with the port insertion. I had no idea it would be so painful. But,it has been a week and 2 days and I can honestly say that I hardly notice it is there-just a twinge now and then. I hope your port area starts feeling better soon.
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I think port pain is pretty individual. I had mine done the day before my first chemo, and just took ibuprofen. Other ladies at the infusion center have said theirs hurt so bad, even though they had narcotics. Others have said it wasn't a picnic, but it wasn't horrible, either. I think it's just a crapshoot how you'll feel.
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I SHOWED UP!!!
Just 16 hours post first chemo and still standing! I couldn't have done it without all of you!
Feeling OK with only mild nausea and acid reflux, but that might be just from what I've eaten or not eaten in the past 48 hours. Not courting trouble but waiting for the shoe to drop. Was given Aloxi with the Cytoxan and Taxotere and told it should help to prevent nausea for 5 days. Also have compazine to take as needed.
A friend sat with me the entire 6 hours and I was able to chat, read, write checks, conduct business on the phone and through emails and generally 'go with the flow'...because you all told me I could!
Don't know how I'll feel about this as time goes on, if side effects appear and once my hair is history, but for now I'm remaining positive and not letting fear overpower my Faith that this will turn out OK.
Biggest worry now is that my 88 year old Mom, a 30 year BC survivor as well as a 60 year survivor of early ovarian cancer, has myleodisplastic syndrome and a mild lymphoma that's been held at bay for the last 2 years with Procrit. But over the last two months it has stopped working and her counts are so low that I will be taking her in on Monday at 8AM to another bone marrow biopsy. I'm so concerned about her that I'm not totally focused on me any more. That's a good thing. I'm already so tired of thinking about my cancer all the time.
Onward and upward. I love you ladies and hope you'll stay in my corner throughout this whole bumpy ride. I am getting by with a little help from my friends and I am counting you among them.
Onward and upward. I hope one day to be posting encouragement and positive energy to others going down this road.
Thanks. Bon
(sunglasses for sunny Florida weather)
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Bon - I am glad that your first chemo was uneventful. It is truly a scary thing but with the help of the support from the forum we have all managed to get through it. I hope that you continue to feel as well as you feel right now. Day 3 post chemo is usually the worst for me but really all I am dealing with is being VERY tired.
I hope that you have a great SE free week!
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Just remember to hydrate, hydrate, hydrate! Especially the day of and a day or two after. It really does lessen the SEs.
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Bon: Yes what riley said. My first round was bad only because I didn't realize how much water would help, and how much I needed to drink. I was in a daze my first infusion (didn't have a port), but after 4 tx of Tax/Cytoxan and 33 rads, I can look back and say I did everything I could to kill this thing. You will get to that point, too. It may feel daunting now, but like the other gals have said, it is doable.
I've worried about my elderly mom, 2,000 miles away, throughout. I handle her finances and try to explain billing and such to her. I didn't always feel like chatting on the phone the past few months. It's great you are able to help her, but you may need to reach out for others to share your load now. It's not weakness. You need to conserve strength.
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One round, I had a nurse start to take down my normal saline drip because the last bag of chemo was empty. I asked her to let it all go in to help with keeping my fluid levels up. She turned it up and ran it all in. All the other nurses have done that without my asking. I figure the bag is spiked and hooked up, so why waste it when I need the fluid anyway? One nurse is fond of telling us that none of us drink as much as we should. She's probably right, but I try.
Probably TMI, but when I was taking Xeloda (pills), if I didn't keep up with the fluids, it would actually burn when I peed. To the point of my skin getting irritated until I started using wet wipes to get it all off my skin. And drastically increasing how much I drank in the hours after I would take my pills.
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So glad to hear your first treatment went well; you have the worst of it behind you now, the dreaded unknown. I'd third (or forth?) the recommendation on drinking lots of water. Water tasted bad to me, that sounds strange, but it did, I used flavoring packets or what-ever I had to so I would drink plenty. I'm sorry to hear about your mom, I hope all goes well on Monday.
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Ladies, I so appreciate your input.
Here it is, just 49 hours after my first round, and I'm reeling. I'm a Realtor, out showing property today for 4 hrs in the Florida heat, humidity, and sunshine, and got back to the office just after 2 pm, in time to say good bye to my clients before my legs went to rubber. My broker closed the office, drove my car home and had the receptionist follow him for a ride back. (I'm pretty blessed to work with such great people). Anyway, I'm sure I didn't drink enough...Realtors never drink because we're always on the road without decent spots for bathroom breaks. So I've been hydrating since 3, ate a bit of something, and feel slightly better. Just fuzzy headed now with a little reflux. I do have compazine if I need it and am just hoping that I can stave off the symptoms. I was supposed to work tomorrow morning but will just ask someone else to take over for me. I'm so busy trying to act like it's business as usual that I haven't given in to the need to slow down. Until now.
I'm learning. thanks to all of you. I'm going for another glass of water. May float away soon.
Thanks for checking in and keeping track of me. This is a wild ride and so hard to go it alone. Friends and family try to do whatever they can to make this better, but having first hand knowledge from you helps immensely. Bon
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Mild nausea can be one of the first signs you're getting dehydrated. I made the mistake at first of NOT drinking anything for fear of making the nausea worse and then almost passed out, but my chemo nurse set me straight when I told her about it. Have a drink and see if you feel better within 15-30 minutes. If you do, drink some more, you're on the right track.
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Bon: Yes, nausea can be a result, and constipation. Drink so much you slosh. You are a realtor in Florida with cients, you can do anything! All kidding aside, take a couple of days off and don't try to be superwoman.
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Hey there, ladies.
Yes, you are right that I need to hydrate so I've been drinking Smartwater and eating lots of sugarfree raspberry jello. Even had popsickles and soup. Starting to float for real!
Saturday was rotten but Sunday is better. Reflux has subsided some and I think it's the yellow mustard I tried. I kept reading that it would ease indigestion and that may behat did the trick.
Head feels like I'm wearing way too many tight hats and a couple of head bands, too. Throat and lips are sore and dry. Waiting for next shoe to drop...
Thanks for checking in on me. Bon
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Bon-I am over a week past my first chemo and every day gets better and better. I still have a little nausea, but can pretty much eat anything. The low grade headache is gone (except for the tight wig!) and my energy is almost back full strength. Just remember it will get better.
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OK, I"m whiny! This stuff isn't for sissies.
This is my 7th day into chemo and I still have a terrible headache, stiff neck and the worst acid-reflux I've ever experienced. Tried to work for a couple of hours yesterday and driving in was a challenge...I felt drunk at the wheel. Am not sleeping, mostly due to the reflux and my attitude that is starting to get darker. I found myself slamming a door and yelling at the dog...I'm really tired of all this and still I've got months to go.
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I do wonder if there is a correlation by expecting/fearing to feel bad-and actually feeling bad? Just a thought!
I've been on chemo for 2 and a half years now without a break-and yes, it's tough. But manageable. You may have to adjust your life, and take time off, if you can't cope with work at the moment. Concentrate on getting yourself recovered from the treatments as quickly as possible-so you can start to build up your reserves for the next cycle. Staying hydrated is absolutley vital-and if you don't, the suffering will be very much worse. Ask your docs for better meds to cope with the side effects-there are plenty to choose from. But unless you tell them that you are struggling, then they won't know what to prescribe. Good luck with the next one-the first cycle is often the worst.
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