June 2010 Rads
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Hi all! Glad to hear the progress of everyone. I went on 6/4 for simulation. I received 2 tattoos (ouch!) Haven't seen them yet since the tape is still on. Everyday I shower I pray they will come off. My rad onc says it takes her about a week and a half to do the plan. I also will have rads to my subclavicular area to make sure that no cancer remains in those nodes, so hopefully everything will go okay. When I asked about creams they told me they will give me what I need. And they also did say only non-aluminum deodorant and recommended washing the radiated area with dove. They also said I can use pure cornstarch.
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Barbara, I'm just popping in here to encourage you to do whatever it takes to eliminate the breast cancer beast -- yes, lymphedema is a risk, but the enemy here is the breast cancer. Not everyone will develop lymphedema, no matter what treatment they have, so no reason to assume you will. Instead, as kmom suggests, a referral from any doctor on your team to a well-qualified lymphedema therapist will give you the reassurance you need to move forward. Besides baseline arm measurements for future reference s/he can give you individualized risk reduction ideas, teach you a prophylactic lymph massage you can use yourself, and fit you for a compression sleeve and glove to use during rads and for travel or exercise.
Here's a web page about finding a well-trained lymphedema therapist near you:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified_Lymphedema_Therapist.htm
And here's one with suggestions for ways to reduce your risk:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm
Lymphedema is no fun, but there are plenty of us here who have it and are happy to help you find the information you need and support you through this difficult time. There's a lymphedema forum here at breastcancer.org just for that purpose. Feel free to come over and ask any questions you have. Lymphedema is doable -- please tell us how we can help you deal with the risk.
Be well!
Binney -
Hello ladies, I am new to the rads group. I had my consult today which included getting a CT and tattoos. I will start next Wednesday. They gave me a tube of Radiaplex to use after treatment.
I had mastectomy in Oct/09, six months of chemo, no reconstruction at this time.
Ready to get this show on the road!
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Had my 3rd round today. So far pretty uneventful procedures. But, what did bum me out was that they told me no swimming. The nurse said that I could probably swim this week, but once my skin start to show any signs of the radiation, it is best if I don't go in a pool-chlorine can dry your skin, or a lake-they worry about infection. This is such a bummer for me, because we have a pool and I have a 3 yo and 4 yo that love to swim. I know this won't be forever, but man, I am really getting tired of it all. Okay, my rant is done. 3 rads done, 30 to go.
V
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I'd like to join the group, too. I've been lurking since Feb when I was diagnosed with ILC in the right breast and DCIS in the left. The ILC was 7 mm, grade 2; the DCIS was half that size. I've had over 16 mammograms, 3 biopsies (one was an MRI guided), two MRIs. I opted for a lumpectomy in each breast since the cancers were so small; surgeon didn't get clear margins the first time, so he did each one a second time. My Oncotype DX score is 19; so we decided against chemo.
I had my first rad treatment today and like drfsunseri, I'm feeling some heat in both breasts. My instructions are to use only Remedy, cornstarch (for deodorant) and absolutely nothing 4 hours before rads.
I wish all of you the best as we journey down this long and bumpy road.
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So glad to happen upon this forum. Although I don't officially start rad until the 2nd of July, I've already been through the simulation and tatooes and scan to get things mapped out. I just finished 6 months of chemo: 4 FAC cocktails 1 every 3 weeks, followed by 12 weeks of taxol. I've got an appointment with my onco on Monday and will be starting on an estrogen supressor, just can't get the name into my brain right now...starts with A.
I, too, am trying to gather all the things that I might need in prep for the effects of radiation. Another survivor suggested Emu cream, said it worked wonders, but mostly I hear about natural Aloe gel being the one everyone uses along with Vit E. I'll go through my list and repost all the suggestions that Ive been given in hopes they will help all of you.
The radiologist did tell me that recoup time will be around 4-6 months as I'm following chemo with radiation, so have all fingers and toes crossed that the fatigue won't hit too badly.
blessings and light,.
Diane
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vmarie, I also did my 3rd treatment today and have 30 more to go. My center is closed July 5, so my last treatment day is July 22. No one told me not to swim in chlorinated pools, of course, I didn't ask. I'm planning a weekend trip July 30 to Vegas and I so hope I'll be able to dip in the pool at the casino! Has anyone else been told not to swim? I haven't felt any effects yet. The first day my breast felt hot, but I think it may have been psychosomatic. I'm really tired today, but I've been tired since this whole thing began. I've been using Miaderm, aloe, and a little vitamin E.
Frances
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Hi ladies; I'm new to the group. Had my simulation on Monday with three tattoos and CT scan. Will start rad's next Wednesday, June 16 for 33 sessions. I've been dealing with surgeries since April when I went in for LCIS and ALC only to find out afterwards that the margins showed IDC so back to the operating room in May for another lumpectomy and SNB. Fortunately all clear so only have radiation to do. I asked about lotions, etc but the simulation tech said that the nurse would go over all that with me on the first day. Is this typical? Not sure if I should be getting a few things together now rather than try to gather it all after my first treatment. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks much.
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Barbara...I know you're concerned about lymphedema, but it's so important to get the chemo - especially if you have nodes involved. I've had all 16 nodes removed from my right axilla and I'm doing great...no lymphedema at all. I will be radiated there as well.
drfsunseri...My rad onc told me I can swim as much as I like, as long as there is no open skin. If I end up with blisters or open skin, he said I have to stop swimming. I have a 7 & 8 year old that are like fish...and I wouldn't miss a moment of fun pool time with them if I can help it! I'll just cake on the aloe and hope for the best.
My rad onc doesn't seem too worried about special creams at this point. He said many people don't even end up with issues. I think I'll put aloe on regularly as a preventative, but other than that, I'm just going with the flow.
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Mouse6-good to hear about the swimming. It was the nurse that told me it was a nono, so I will be seeing the Dr. on Monday and I intend to talk to him about it. thanks
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Hi, I was supposed to start my rads last week, but my Surgeon said she wanted me to get an MRI before I start rads, since I finished Chemo.
Did anyone else have a breast MRI after Chemo but before Rads?
Thanks.
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Irpabon,
I was given biafine (prescription) and I did pretty well...there were also days that I needed to use hydrogel by skintegrity (given to me by Rad Nurse.) I did have some days where it felt more like burns...the hydrogel has aloe in it.
I am VERY fair skinned, but I do tan amongst my freckles...I did much better than I imagined I would.
hope this helps...and yes, I did have breast warmth, but the most was red below my breast (have expanders in), and red/ruddy armpit which is getting much better two weeks out of completion.
traci
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Binney, thanks for the support and advice around lymphedema. I know my reluctance to radiate the axilla is directly proportionate to the fact that in the OR, 0/4 nodes were positive. The path report came back 1/4 had micromets. All 3 docs said chemo and rads. Then they had a tumor board meeting w/head of path for hospital and all 3 came out of that saying rads only. Something is rotten in the path lab. So I got my slides and reports and took them to a regional cancer center for a second path opinion. I will know tomorrow. Still have the planning session w/radonc tomorrow. Hopefully, the path will be negative on all nodes and I can get on with it.
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Hello June Rads group!
Had my first Rad treatment out of 33 today! I am 48 and have both DCIS and Microinvasive IDC; lumpectomy (April) and re-excision (May). I'm also one of these extremely rare people who had a severe allergic reaction to the blue dye they used in my Sentinel Node Biopsy. I went into anaphylactic shock on the operating table and they nearly lost me! Not to scare anyone, because indeed by all reports this is an extremely rare incident. They've decided not to tattoo me after that whole dye incident, so just repeated Sharpie Markers everyday.
No spread to the lymph nodes, so no chemo for me, just radiation and 5 years of Tamoxifen. The actual radiation today was easy breezy, but I have to admit that this evening I'm feeling some tingling or sharp shooting pains and it does seem warm to the touch (Could I already be having a side effect? Or is this all in my head?). Can't wait until this phase is over. I'm looking forward to a vacation after this too!
Good luck to everyone!
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Hi there, yes I was told not to swim or use jacuzzi during rads. Im on my 12th treatment now and getting a little pink. I just hang out with the kids while they're in the pool, it will be over in no time. Good luck
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Hello, everyone.
I guess I can submit a membership application here. And in July's group, as well. Maybe August too? Simulation scheduled for June 22 (originally the 17th, but they asked for more time). Start the next day. Finish August 3.
Left breast. 25 regular. 5 boosts. Oncotype 19 (88% no distant recurrence-working on being positive.) No LVI in tumor. Tumor size 2.5 cm.
Somehow team overlooked a pre-op arm measurement. Last week, left arm 4% larger than right. Still kind of doughy in upper arm and a little on back. Still some numbness in triceps area. Saw LE therapist and will continue with her through rads. Definitely worried about incidental radiation to axillary area.
I'm worried about the whole thing, frankly.
Was advised to use any cream that didn't have scent. Very interested in what works best to try to avoid burning. There is quite a collection of testimonials at the Jean's Cream site....
Our daughter is in her best friend's wedding on August 7 in Salt Lake City. We've been looking forward to going for months. My husband and I were planning to follow the wedding with a road trip. Don't want to buy tickets we can't use. Hardly think it's realistic to hope we could make even just the wedding. There's no way to predict how this will go--breast or arm.
Off to create the kitchen windowbox. Distraction, yes, that's the ticket.
God bless us all.
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I'm having my CT done next Monday and then a dry run next Friday. Sharpie - do they give you a sharpie or should I buy one myself?
No tattoos for me.Trying to decide which lotion to use. Radiaguard sounds promising so I'll probably use it. It's supposed to have no metals and does contain aloe and lidocaine.
I got fitted a sleeve and a glove prior to my air travel to prevent lymphedema onset. Hopefully the rads won't cause trouble (I have 2 nodes removed in SNB and then another 7 removed in the armpit area).
Good to see a few familiar names from the Feb chemo forum here. Together we can do this!
Have a nice weekend, everyone!
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Faithfulc - did you have an MRI done prior to rads?
I am having a biopsy done on Monday. I briefly forgot one improtant rule, we need to be our own advocate! I kept thinking why MRI now before rads, but never questioned it! It is not apparently standard procedure to have a breast MRI done before rads, because the breast changesduring rads!! So what the *&*#?!?! But now that it through something off, for piece of mind, I have to have the biopsy.
Have a great weekend everyone, thankfully mine is packed with dance recitals and other fun activities!
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Thanks everyone for all the information. I just completed my first week. The radiation techs are very thorough, always making sure I'm perfectly situated on the table. They told me they take xrays every fifth treatment to verify that the tattoos are still lined up correctly. I really don't understand how it all works, I'm glad they know what they're doing. I was really tired yesterday, I don't know if it is related to rads or just life. I feel better today, I went for a two mile run. It always helps when I exercise. I'm going to try and get in at least a half hour walk everyday. My skin doesn't seem to be hot anymore, it feels maybe a little more tender than usual. 28 more treatments to go!
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They do all the marking with their own Sharpie pens, then they cover it with a piece of sticky clear tape. So far, it hasn't washed off in the shower. I think it is more common that they do a tiny tattoo a short time after they have started the radiation. But in my case they're just continuing with the Sharpie pen markings. And, I will also have the "films" every 5th treatment. I was in and out today in 15 minutes!
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We have a large parking garage where I get my rads; so I decided to walk prior to each treatment. It really is a great stress reliever.
I haven't experienced any warmth to speak of since the first day. I was told this was unusual and that warmth didn't usually start until further into treatment.
30 more to go
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I'm a day out of the June group, but will be starting rads the 2nd of July for 33 sessions. Is there room for another to tag along until July?
I just finished 6 months of chemo, 4 FAC followed by 12 weeks of taxol. My tumor was 5cm, 1 node positive, and extensive lymphovascular invasion, hence the radiation. The tumor was too large to send for oncotyping.
I'm a bit nervous about the radiation, though I did well with chemo, just so darned tired all the time, but no stomach issues. I'm loading up on aloe gel, and just came home with Aveno night cream. Someone mentioned Emu cream, and Bag Balm (?) Does one wait until rads start to prep the skin or did any of you start before treatment?
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Hi Ladies, this looks like where I should start, so I hope you don't mind if I join in. I'm 64, with a wonderful and supportive DH & family; 7 grand-kids and one great - . I had my lumpectomy Apr. 28; and was supposed to start rads on Mon June 14, but pushed it back a bit while I digest an Oncotype DX of 25.
My stats are rt. breast DCIS in 1996, lumpectomy only. New left breast tumor discovered at regular mammogram in March 2010, followed by needle biopsy. April 2010 IDC <1cm, stage 1b, grade 2, ER+, PR-; Her2-. Same wonderful surgeon both times, she is a proponent of BCT.
Just got the Oncotype results yesterday and fretted all day about whether to have chemo (recommended by the medi onc.); spent the day calling my health care providers & asking for opinions since I also have a rare autoimmune disease and one concern is the effect of chemo on the disease. After most of the feedback is in, and I have some understandable numbers about survival or recurrence stats with & without chemo, I am back to the original plan of rads + AI afterwards. Now I need to re-schedule the rads (1+ hrs away) and hope to get a good time of day - I hate going to town anyway, and in the summer it's really hot. We live in the hills where it's a bit cooler during summer.
Anxious about radiation would be an understatement. I wish each of you all successes with yours!
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Leta, no I'm not having an MRI done before Rads. Fingers crossed for you - hoping everything's OK for you!!
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Hello all
I finished my first week of rads - and I have to say it went very well. The technicians are all wonderful and the actual treatments seem to be over before I know it.. about 15 minutes each time.
I was told that swimming is fine - so long as the skin is still intact. I am to rinse and pat dry, and not sit around in a wet suit - but that's it.
I'm using a cream called "glaxol base". I got it at the local drugstore. It was one of the recommended creams at the cancer agency, and also recommended by the pharmacist. It feels nice going on and absorbs well.
I haven't had any SE's yet - that I know of. I'm tired, but I think that's still from the chemo. I completed about 7 months of it on May 5th - so I'm still trying to get back to normal.
I'm working full time during all of this - luckily my clinic is only about 4 blocks away from my office, so rads is like an extended coffee break. So far so good.
Good luck to everyone!
Mabelle
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I swam throughout my radiation treatments with the full permission of my MD. I was initially told NO due to the chlorine..and I told him it could be a deal breaker. I had a great Rad MD who heard how important this was to me after 6 months out of the pool, plus the fact that I was not originally going to have to do radiation....I was experiencing a fair amount of resistance.
swimming to me is like going to church, and I believe it has been instrumental in helping me with my arm movement. I kept it simple...12-15 minutes at a time, directly to the showers to rinse off, I used the biafene lotion, and I didn't go every day. (sometimes due to tiredness, only a few times due to redness)
]My MD was very pleased and said I had helped him change his perspective, so I was tickled.
so, if swimming is akin to breathing for you, I made it through..and I saw the posts of other women who swam throughout before I spoke with my MD...and used it as ammo
I had no blisters...no severe dryness and visable redness/tightness
but, if my MD has insisted, I would have stayed out of the pool. I had changed my radiation MD prior to starting as I could sense in his good nature, and that he viewed me as an individual, not "just a paitient..."
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I had my first radiation Tx today...I was in and out in 15 minutes. I'm not real thrilled with the tech who zapped me...she said "oh, I forgot to tell you to breath in on that second one"...I was thinking, Lady, that's your job...I'm new here and don't know how this works! So, I'm not sure how concerned I should be about where that radiation went...heart? lungs? I'll make sure to remind her tomorrow. I made sure to put lotion on my skin as so as I came home...Miaderm came highly recommended, I hope it works. I certainly hope the burns and blisters stay away! I still can't believe I have to do this for the next 7 weeks, ugh! I hope it goes well for all of us!
Ana
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Hello,
I will be joining this group as I will go this Wed. for Simulation/Scan and Tattoo to begin this part of the journey. I have been reluctant to do radiation since the beginning, put it in the back of my mind until after my last chemo. I did get a second opinion as I was told by 1st Rad Onc that I was in gray area, gave me all the info /stats etc and said "You really should get 2nd opinion"...was told I should .
I have decided that I do not want my armpit area radiated. I had 26 nodes removed, and really nervous about lymphedema (of course Im worried about recurrance but realize the chances are slim like 3 to 4% in that area (from what I was told by rad onc)....My husband thinks I should rethink my decision. I have two days !!!
Also concerned as I did my exchange before, advice from PS . Anyone else have implant in ?I would like to hear feedback ..Thanks ..
Hope all goes well for everyone....
Cathy
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Just got back from my CT and markings. Ended up with three tatoos after all, which I don't mind. One is right in the middle in between the breasts, and the other two are on the side about an inch or two above the waist line. They are supposed to keep my perfectly straight and lined up every time.
Going in for a dry run Friday and the real deal starts next Monday. 33 treatments including 5 boosts.
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Finished #13 today, 20 more to go. I feel fine. Went to the beach over the weekend, walked the boardwalk, probably got more sun than I was supposed to but now I at least look healthy. The only redness I have is from the sun where I guess I messed up with the sun block. Other than that, no other pink or red areas noticed on my breast. I don't feel any more tired than usual, and had no trouble walking around a lot over the weekend (other than the heat). Faithfulc, I started out with those 3 little tattoos but when I went back the next time they gave me 5 more. But they aren't really noticeable, or maybe I just don't care anymore. Leta, good luck with your results, hope all goes well. Anyway, I am 1/3 completed and so far so good. Not even needing to use any creams yet. Keeping my fingers crossed that the next 4 weeks go as smooth.
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