Chemo June 2010
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aww, thanks Bugs!
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don't know if any of you have your treatments tomorrow, but want to wish you well & FEW SE's afterwards!!
am anxiously counting days until the 23rd, my 1st 'sit' in the chair in what the nurses call 'the castle'! most people don't ever get to visit a castle, so, going every 2-3 weeks is supposedly a 'fairy tale' of some kind. have no idea how that idea was conceived nor by whom! ,
i'm learning a ton from you---
deb
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I just heard about the Ativan. Maybe I should have requested it for MUGA #2 tomorrow! Ughhh..
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Hi Gang,
Well tomorrow is first treatment. I am getting more anxious as it gets closer. The onc hasn't given me any RX in advance so I am wondering if he will give me some tomorrow. I talked with the nurse and she said he does have a RX for composine ready but she didn't see anything else. I am going to see if he can help me with the hot flashes. I had my ovaries removed in Dec but was on hormones. Once I was diagnosed with cancer obviously had to stop them (ER+) and now the hot flashes are out of control!!!!
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swanseagirl - there is a ton of info and a shopping list for chemo if you Jump to Forum: Chemotherapy - Before, During and After. There's the chemo shopping list, headcover tips and a whole list of helpful items.
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Hello ladies, just stopping by to wish you all well, though I'm sorry you have to be here. Right now you are all in the throes of chemo or upcoming chemo and you will get through it - helping each other in many ways. I'm through treatment and just had my port removed after almost a year with it. My hair is growing and I look quite normal. Our chemo group continues to post - but topics are wide and varied - not just cancer. Go girls!!
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Dear gillyone - thanks so much for the encouragement! So glad you got through and are getting back to normal. That is such fantastic news!!!!!! Hugs to you for sharing with us who've just started, or like me, are still waiting nervously to start. Thanks so so much!!!
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grneyd5600 - good luck tomorrow! My doc gave me zofran and compazine but I'm not sure how to use them yet. I go to chemo class today and will share if I get any new good info. Best of luck, and let us know how you're doing.
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grneyed- I would ask your Oncologist's nurse to please confirm any prescriptions you will need TODAY and even call them in to the pharmacy so you can fill them. My Onc prescribed Zofran and Reglan. Every doctor is different. I took my prescriptions with me on my first day and took notes. I'm glad I did as I wasn't thinking too straight after chemo and certainly didn't want to run to the pharmacy. Tough my husband would have been happy to go, I wanted him nearby if I needed him. I would also ask them if you should take something to ward off constipation. I am 4 days after my 1st chemo and STILL haven't gone! I have another call into my doctor. This just can't be healthy. How long can a person go without going to the bathroom??? Best of luck!
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For all you ladies taking Ativan. I certainly understand that it can help with anxiety....could have used some myself during the PET scan. Something the doctors don't tell you is that it can be addictive, so just be careful. After all we have been through, the last thing we need is to end up in rehab after chemo! Just google Ativan+addiction and you will find tons.
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DesignerMom - 4 days, that's gotta be uncomfortable. I hope your doc gets this resolved quickly. Wishing you best of luck.
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batoday - we are on the same schedule and meds except you are one day ahead of me. I start on 6/16. Tomorrow I am having my scans, CT and bone then chemo on Wednesday.
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Designermom--Thanks for the info on Ativan. I did not know it can be addicting. I don't use it often, just for stressful situations, like today, and for occasional nausea. I don't need it for tests or anything, just the dang stress of being back in that stupid chair again! I hope your "problem" gets resolved soon, w/o too much discomfort!
gillyone-->thanks for popping in to give us some much needed encouragement!
I just got back from my first AC treatment. The whole thing, including labs, took about 3.5 hours. Next time will be a bit longer because I'll see my onc. too. I got Decadron and Zofran through my port (seems to be the standard at my cancer center). Oh--because Emend worked well for me in the past, the nurse made sure I got some today, so I'm not sure if the doc was going to give it to me anyway, or just did because the nurse asked. So before the infusion started I took an Emend pill, and then I'll take 1 a day for the next 2 days. Emend helps with delayed nausea. After the pre-meds, the nurse gave me the Andriamycin (red devil). It was pushed in with a large syringe. She pushes it very slowly so it mixes with the saline that is also going in. Every couple of minutes she would pull it back to pull blood out to make sure my veins were ok. She said problems are less likely to happen with a port, but they still take precautions. I can expand on that more if there are questions. She did 3 syringes of that @ 5 min. each. Oh, and she gave me ice chips to help ward off mouth sores while I was getting the drug. Then she started the Cytoxan. That bag took an hour.
So, other than the nerves and upset stomach from being back at chemo, everything went well. It helps that I'm familiar with the place, and the nurses know me. I just am a little tired and blah feeling. I've noticed most ladies here feel the worst a few days out, and the nurse agreed that that's what usually happens. My throat seems a little scratchy too, hmmm. Since I got enough steroids in the infusion, I won't take a pill until the morning. Hopefully I can sleep tonight, but that is somewhat unlikely. I'll probably end up in the recliner flipping through channels!
Hope to hear from roosje and lizzyanne, to see how they did! Praying it went well for them!
Hoping all goes well for those soon to start too!
T
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TMarina - Good job, you got through it and you sound great! Hope you continue to feel well. Hope you get some sleep okay. Thinking of you. Keep us posed.
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TMarina: glad to hear your first treatment was fairly uneventful. I am hoping for that same scenario myself on Wednesday. I have to say that reading about everyone's experience on here has helped with my anxiety. Tomorrow I am going shopping for the things on my list after I finish my scans.
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gillyone: thanks for encouragement!! it's always good to hear from others beyond the point of chemo's end.
designermom: wow, you have more patience than i do! i'd be on the doorstep of my dr by now if i was in such discomfort! i have zero tolerance pain for constipation----guess i'll have to pony up and become tough, huh-- i hope you get some much needed relief as quickly as possible.
gyneyd5600: good luck on the 1st treatment tomorrow! everyone will be anxious to hear from you. hope those hot flashes disappear definitely ask about it because i see others mention it all the time. you said that you would wait till tomorrow a.m. to take next pill; do you mean an emend?
sherry9316: i've been making my purchases, too...about got everything bought. take it easy tomorrow and before you know it, wednesday will be behind you and your 1st treatment will be out of the way!!
have any of your dr's indicated that aspertane (in place of my much beloved real sugar) is a 'no-no' during treatment?????
dsa
tmarina: appreciate your clear explanation for how your day went! it helps those of us who are scheduled soon know what to expect or at least have an idea . i'm to receive decadron/zofran, too as pre-meds; however, haven't been prescribed emend yet, but will di
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tmarina- I'm proud to know you! You can do this. You ARE doing this! I am praying that you have few SE.
Update on my constipation ladies! After ALL the advice including: Colace, Sennokot, stewed prunes, Milk of Mag, I just had to hang up a phone call FAST and run to the bathroom. Hallelujah!!! I can tell you one thing. Before my next chemo, I am going to eat my stewed prunes, take Colace and maybe even something else. I am 54 years old. Never, have I not pooped for 4 days! That's just not how God designed us. For all you ladies getting your first chemos, ask your Oncs AHEAD of time all the thing you are allowed to use. That way you will have a bag of tricks ready and can jump on it faster than I did. Whoooo Hooo! I feel good.
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designermom: i needed a good laugh & your post has me still chuckling!! I LOVE IT!
dsa
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lol! glad to hear the plumbing is working again!
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oh, I wanted to mention something about the cytoxan--maybe someone has mentioned this before too. Some people get a bad headache from it as they are getting the infusion. If you start to feel a headache or sinus congestion tell your nurse right away and they will slow down the drip, from 1 hour to 1.5 or 2 hours. And I was told I'd get Tylenol right away too to help with the headache. Hopefully your nurses will mention this to you, but if not, ask about it.
Take care!
T
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Well I went and shaved my head yesterday! I cried the whole time but I am so happy it is gone now! I ended up shaving it on day 16 but I recommend to everyone to shave it BEFORE it starts coming out, like on day 13! It was probaby harder seeing it come out in clumps then when I shaved it, plus when I shaved it, there were some bald patches and I think it woud be easier to see it shaved when the hair is still in, seeing the bald patches was the hardest. But it is done and over with and I can finally stop crying over my hair coming out. LIke the instant it was all gone, I stopped crying. My husband did it for me (I didn't watch) so he was trying to make me laugh the whole time which made it easier... I just kept reminding myself that it is temporary and it will grow back and the hardest part is over!!
I wore my wig alll day today just so it wasn't so hard to see myself with out any hair. But my scalp still hurts, like it's pretty itchy and feels tender, does anyone know how long that lasts for and why it is so tender? I thought it hurt before because my hair was so long and heavy but it still hurts!!
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I had my second infusion today. Very uneventful, everything went a little quicker, I was able to have my medication administered over a shorter period of time so I was done before noon today. I got a little queasy on the way home, but took 12.5mg of Phenergan and that took the edge off.
The really strange thing is that I am really "hungry" this evening! The first time in awhile, maybe its the dexamethasone that has stimulated my appetite. I still feel quite fatigued, and I know that last week the side effects hit me a little later in the week. But, for today, I feel pretty good.
Just thought I'd share.
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Hi everyone: Just wanted to share a few experiences I had before my planned June 9 chemo start date. I had been experiencing pain down my back, under the scapula prior to going in for my first TE fill. It felt raw, and burned. Plastics guy said he thinks I have shingles. No blisters or rash, but it follows along a nerve from the back and with his experience, sounds like shingles. He was hesitant to start me on neurontin (said it's pretty sedating), until he witnessed one of my "zingers" which hurt like a b****, and had me crying like an infant, and wrote the script on the spot. I followed up with my primary Dr. regarding the shingles-she contacted my onc. who said (same day) to go ahead and start Valtrex (antiviral), even though I was outside of the 72 hour period from start of symptoms. Oh how I love collaboration- none of us should settle for less! The neurontin started to work after a few doses! Whew-like anyone needs that kind of pain on top of everything else!
In anticipation of starting chemo on June 9, I had my teeth cleaned, a crown replaced, and unfortunately had a tooth identified to have a root infection. My dentist referred me to an oral surgeon-set to see him on June 8 where he promptly made an incision, pulled down the gum, and cleaned it out. It was a horrible experience because he didn't say a word to me the whole time he was doing it as he torquing my mouth open as wide as possible, and smashing one side of my nose with his hand-this is all while drilling away. I started to cry about ¾ of the way through. No one even asked why. After he sat me up, he pointed to a chair that I should go sit in to get my discharge instructions. I sobbed the whole time-again, no questions of what was wrong. Luckily my sister was with me. When we got to the car, I told her what happened (as best as you can when entirely numb on one side) and she went back in and read them the riot act! Yeah for sisters! BTW, I "told on" this oral surgeon-called my dentist that day and told him what happened. And yes, this guy (oral surgeon) knew all about what I have been going through, not that any human being should go through what I did, no matter what. No more referrals for you dude!
My whole family tried to talk me out of starting chemo the next day. I called the nurse and told her what was going on (mouth, shingles) and she said to go ahead and come in as planned and she would tell the Dr. The next day, I felt so much better-less mouth pain although swollen like a chipmunk on the left. So, I got all dressed up for my first chemo, and said "Come on-let's go, If my Dr. says it's a go, I'm doing it!" Received my first dose of Adria and Cytoxan on June 9. My point of all of this, because I know it's very lengthy, is two-fold. Do not let anyone give you crap about anything! I've been reading on various forums and threads since being diagnosed 3/12, and know that everyone on this site is strong! Also, just wanted to share a few things that happened before chemo, but chemo started anyway! The waiting is agonizing and I think we all just want to move forward. The last thing I wanted was to postpone the start of chemo. Sorry for the lengthy post
Laurie
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kittycat: Kittycat-How FRUSTRATING for you not to start chemo on June 9 as planned. The scenario you posted on June 9 must have been agonizing-It's one thing to not be able to start for reasons out of anyone's control, but it sounds like it was kind of a circus re: the MUGA and echo, onc. on vacation, showing up and being told it's a no-go. Good luck on your MUGA scan tomorrow!
SKD: I too, had heard that your scalp can be tender while your hair is falling out and have seen several people recommend cutting it super short before this happens. My hair is short to begin with, but I did get it cut last weekend-Jamie Curtis style. Hope your scalp tendenesss goes away soon.
Since having my first treatment of A/C (June 9), and neulasta short the day after, my biggest complaint has been headaches. My nurse warned me that I may feel sinus congestion during the cytoxan infusion (I didnt't), and that the neulasta may cause bone pain in particularly in the ribs, hips- and cause headaches. One thing that has helped me is Mucinex D. Since June 11, with the exception of today, I have woken up with terrible frontal headaches and the Mucinex D seemed to help. Like I said, no headache today
No worries here- sounds like minor SE compared to what others are going through. Just thought I'd share. Laurie
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Hi everyone--I just joined the group. Had my first chemo on June 7 (TC) and did well. The only SE that has really bothered me so far has been bone pain from the Neulasta. My hair is still with me, but I expect it to go any day now? I told our sons that when it goes, I think I will just get a great big tattoo on my head instead of wearing a wig. At ages 12 and 15, they thought that was a great idea! I won't really do it, and they know that, but it was great way to make it a less stressful situation for them. We had a lot of fun thinking of different designs I could get.
Have really found all the posts so helpful and am looking forward to sharing the journey with all of you.
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Meliss I did the same treatment and did pretty well through the whole thing. I recommend to all you ladies just a super healthy (protein protein protein) , bland diet. Lots of mouth rinsing with baking soda, salt and water.
Laurie you poor thing! I hope it gets better but going to the dentist first was smart. You should get some GLYOXIDE if you don't have it just to rinse your mouth since you were cut. My gums got super sensitive toward the end of treatment and since they don't recommend flossing during treatment and I was super paranoid about mouth sores I used glyoxide to keep my gums good! its like perioxide for your mouth and onc said it was ok to use.
Good luck ladies in treatment!! Keep pushing through!!
Di
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Beanius and all June Ladies,
Thinking and praying for you all that are starting chemo treatment soon or are in treatment.
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Went to a really fun session run by the American Cancer Society today. 'Look Good, Feel Better', all about make-up and hair, it was so much fun. I highly recommend this program, we each got a free make-up kit and lots of advise on how to apply it. They run these sessions nationwide, so if you're in a metro area there's probably some near you.
Julia
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I went and got the MUGA scan today. The tech was so much better. She had no problem seeing my heart. The other tech said my heart rate was irregular, where it would slow down to the 40's and then speed up to 70's. When they got the heart monitors on me, I watched the screen.... 70..71..73..76..71..71..71..71..... for about 20 seconds before they pulled the MUGA machine over me. So unless it jumped down afterward, that other tech might not have had me hooked up properly (or she was just plain LAME)!
So, I called my onco twice afterward to see if they got any answers and to get a chemo start date. I finally got a call from the nurse at the end of the day. They won't have my results for a couple more days!!! I was sooooo mad!!! They don't seem to get that my husband has to take time off work. He changed his schedule to meet my chemo dates, only for it not to start. Now we don't know! I wanted to start on Wednesdays because the 3rd day (Friday) I would start to feel bad and I could rest over the weekend. Ughhhhh.....
I'm thinking of planting myself in their office tomorrow morning until someone starts giving me answers!
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SKD - thanks for the post about shaving your head; I'm on day 12 and for some reason sitting around waiting for my hair to go is more nerve wracking than waiting for surgery, but reading your post helped a lot! I just can't bring myself to buzz it before it starts to go though, there's that little part of me that says maybe it won't fall out, even though I know the chance of that is zero.
lauriez - sorry about your terrible experience, isn't venting therapeutic? good for you for raising he11!
kittycat - sorry about your continued delays - I know how much they suck (I had a 5 week delay because my 1st onc forgot to send out my oncotypeDx) but as a friend pointed out when I was ready to hit the roof, at least we're lucky to have a relatively slow growing cancer where they can afford to wait for all these tests and scans.
and one more thing, as if we all don't have enough to worry about, make sure you check all your prescriptions carefully, I just caught a mistake by my pharmacy!
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