I need help managing my stress levels.

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cherneski
cherneski Member Posts: 726
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer
I need help managing my stress levels.

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  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited May 2010

    So we all go through enough BS with this.  I found out I was stage 3 rather than 2 by accident, ended up on this side of the board and probably the best thing to ever happen to me with this God Awful disease.  Then my Mom died in a car accident.  I am set to have recon June 14th and finally got ok with it cause I was having issues and now I have to go for a biopsy on my uterus.  I have such a hard time taking Tamoxifen because I know it can cause this.  I swallow it with agony.

    Biopsy is a disgusting word to a cancer person.   I need help managing my stress.  I cant take any more crap. 

    On a good note I am back on my diet, still not smoking and am down to 177lbs.   Woo Hooo

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2010
  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited May 2010

    Deborah ~  The very best thing I've done for stress is to start walking.  I'd walked/jogged on and off prior to bc, but right after I finished rads and read that regular exercise decreases our risk of reoccurance by something like 35%, I started getting outdoors each morning and walking for at least an hour.  In the beginning, I could only do about 2 miles, which was fine.  But 15 mos. later, I'm up to 4 to 5 or more miles most days.  Not only is it great for stress -- just being outdoors with time to think through problems and prioritize my day -- but I've lost a pants size and really toned up my legs.  My blood pressure has also dropped from the slightly high normal range to extremely low.  It was hard disciplining myself to get out there at first, but after about a month, it became something I look forward to, and by now it's something I need and do not feel as good when I miss, including feeling more stressed.   

    Exercise is something positive we can do to hopefully help prevent a recurrence.  Another BCO member who walks once said that every step she takes is a step further away from bc -- a mantra that has stayed with me and keeps me going.       Deanna  

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited May 2010

    I box. I workout with a boxing coach and I have a bag in my garage and I go out and just hit it for a while. It helps me tremendously. Why are you having a biopsy on your uterus? Is everything ok?

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited May 2010

    Pure I need the biopsy because of how bad I am bleeding and severe cramps.  With my history we dont wait we go right to biopsy.  Yipeeee

    I like to walk, but usually have a child with me so it isnt relaxing.

  • BonnieSF
    BonnieSF Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2010

    When I was first diagnosed I was super anxious and stressed. I got an rx for ativan. I did not use it very much, but it did help when I was really having a hard time; like anxiety attack stuff. Also used meds for sleeping (ambien). The ativan was only occasional, but the ambien was kind of tough to kick. But I did get off it. Just took willingness to have a couple of weeks of poor sleep, and it wasn't even that bad.

    Good luck.

    Bonnie

  • BonnieSF
    BonnieSF Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2010

    Also, I found a lot of relief from listening to sedating music (Yes, that is what is is called!)

    Liquid Mind is an artist that has super relaxing music. You'd be surprised how calming it can be. 

    Good luck,

    Bonnie

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited May 2010

    I am sorry to hear that but I would bet it's nothing. I take xanax and it melts my stress like butter. I take a low dose but it's great. Also, extreme exercise really helps me. Get a bag, hang it in your garage and punch it. It works wonders:)

  • Joviangeldeb
    Joviangeldeb Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2010

    Hi, Deborah.  My medical doctor put me on lexapro right after I was diagnosed.  I believe it has helped me with stress. I also made little changes in my life that reduce my stress. One example is that I do not open any business mail or bills until the two days I've set aside a month to pay bills.  I find it lessens the worry about finances.  As Bonnie mentioned, I find music therapuetic and I make time to do things I love to do, whether it be tv, reading, writing or surfing the net and doing facebook.  When I get really stressed, I find mindless games on pogo.com and facebook destressers. I know these are just things that work for me, but I hope it will help you in some way, or maybe give you an idea for your own hobbies or relaxing time.

    Take care,

    Deb

  • mnmom
    mnmom Member Posts: 2,068
    edited May 2010

    cherneski, I also used 2 an anti anxiety rx but I had to make sure there was someone with my little one. the pills took the edge off but I also would fall asleep cause the stress just drains you. Some people do not have this issue so just fyi

     Good luck. 

  • janincanada
    janincanada Member Posts: 258
    edited May 2010

    Deb.....be kind to yourself. you have had a lot to deal with. I find Yoga and meditation terrific for managing stress but my fav is racketsports. Like Pure and her boxing hitting the ball and the amount of focus that it entails causes my stress to fade away.

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited May 2010

    deb

    something else that might help' journaling. taking 30 minutes...either in the morning..or evening...to write down ALL the stuff you are feeling...externalizing the emotions can help. if you don't feel like writing...get yourself a little tape recorder...like what doctors use...and verbalize your feelings.  i think we tend to keep everything inside; and making an effort to "put it out there" can be helpful.  again, talk with your DH and try to find 30 minutes ...either early or later..and walk the dog for 30 minutes.  i think getting outside..alone...and walking really can help**

  • sharkey
    sharkey Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2010

    Hi Cherneski,  

    Thanks for starting this thread!  Stress is really getting to me as well.  I know I need to exercise, but I'm having trouble getting it started.  Like last night, my husband was encouraging me to walk with my neighbor, but I was so tired and achy and on a pity pot after work that I declined.  And that's how it often goes, I know exercise will help in so many ways.  But I am really having trouble with my lack of inertia.  And the stress and aches just seem to go on and on.  

    I'll send you good wishes for lower stress and a smooth recon process.  We are on similar schedules, though my recon isn't till August due to work constraints.

    Condolences for your loss.  My mother passed away in 2000 (of lung cancer) and I still miss her so much.  

    Best,

    Sharkey 

  • EstherMSKCC
    EstherMSKCC Member Posts: 45
    edited May 2010

    Dear cherneski,  

    I'm sorry to hear that you are having a hard time managing your stress. As an employee of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in NY I am aware of the physical, emotional, psychological, and social issues many patients face following treatment. There are a number of resources available to help people experiencing survivorship issues.  

    The National Cancer Insitute is a good place to start - here is a link to several articles about survivorship that you may find useful: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/redir.aspx?C=fbb22c9709e44e1d8d0adc06cd52eb95&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cancer.gov%2fcancertopics%2fcoping%2fsurvivorship  

    The American Cancer Society's information on survivors' needs and interests is also good: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/redir.aspx?C=fbb22c9709e44e1d8d0adc06cd52eb95&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cancer.org%2fdocroot%2fHOME%2fsrv%2fsrv_0.asp

    Memorial Sloan-Kettering's site also has a number of articles you might be interested in reading, including one on developing effective coping strategies: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/redir.aspx?C=fbb22c9709e44e1d8d0adc06cd52eb95&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mskcc.org%2fmskcc%2fhtml%2f92631.cfm

    We also have an electronic newsletter for survivors written by survivors called "Bridges", which you might be interested in reading/subscribing to. The newsletter offers a forum where patients and their families can share stories of inspiration and hope, as well as the challenges that accompany the cancer survivor's journey. Here's the link: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/redir.aspx?C=fbb22c9709e44e1d8d0adc06cd52eb95&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mskcc.org%2fmskcc%2fhtml%2f86252.cfm

    I hope this information is helpful to you (and maybe others on this thread as well) and wish you the best of luck in getting the support you need. -Esther

  • kimber3006
    kimber3006 Member Posts: 586
    edited May 2010

    Cherneski - I know what you mean about walking with a child - it's fun, but definitely not great for peaceful reflection and not much for exercise - stop to check out the dead frog, stop to pick some flowers, wait for child sitting on curb to rest his legs....   I either jump on the elliptical and go until I'm dripping sweat and ready to drop, or I breathe deep and stretch.  I love the peaceful feeling I got after yoga and am really looking forward going back to that when I take my gym membership off hold next month.  I hope you find something that works for you.  Hope all goes well with the biopsy (ack!) and big congrats on the weight loss and quitting smoking - such a huge accomplishment, especially doing both at once.  You are amazing!

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2010

    I find walking to be a wonderful stress release.  But.... I have to say what helps me the most is a good laugh.  My best friend has a sharp tongue, says it like it is and always makes me laugh.  There are times when I call her and ask her to just talk because I am sure she'll say something that will give me a good laugh.  Then, there is reading or watching a mindless funny movie.

    Good luck with the recon.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2010

    I'm sorry you're going thru this Deb.  You've been thru so much.  The only thing I can suggest that works for me is doing a brisk walk for at least 45 minutes.  Also if I feel really stressed and get that anxious feeling in my chest sometimes the only thing that works is an Ativan.

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    Barb

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited June 2010

    Biopsy of uterus came back normal!  Was able to give blood yesterday for surgery.  I have thrown my pain killers in the garbage cause I think they were helping make me cranky.  I am down to 175 lbs a whopping total of 17 lbs from my start!  Feeling better, still need to be calmer, but I guess that will come. 

    Recon is in 6 days and a wake up (Monday June 14th), I am very nervous but cant wait.

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2010

    Deb, just wanted to wish you good luck with your recon surgery. I had a bilat DIEP in January, and all I can say is I'm very, very happy I did despite the pain and scars. Pain is gone, and the scars will fade.

    And good for you on the weight loss. I found after my recon, I could control my weight much better. Don't know why, maybe because I felt better about myself and wasn't eating everything in sight, lol. I've lost six pounds since my surgery but was only able to lose four pounds in the year after I finished treatment.

    As far a methods to calm yourself, well, we all have our own ways that work. We can only make suggestions, but you will need to try each one to see if they will work for you. My method changes with the seasons. In warm weather, I like to sit out on my shady deck and listen to the birds chirp around me. When it's too cold to sit outside, I like to listen to music. So it seems that some kinds of auditory sounds soothe me.

    Maybe have your hubby give you a massage...but he has to promise that he'll let you rest afterwards, lol.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited June 2010

    Deb - glad to hear the biopisies came back normal. Good luck on your DIEP - I'm looking into DIEP early next year.  Oh.........and glad to hear about the weight loss, wonderful!!!

  • clariceak
    clariceak Member Posts: 752
    edited June 2010

    yeah for normal uterus blood! 

    And congrats on your weight loss. To be a cancer patient and lose that much is a huge achievement.  I have to say you inspired me months ago when you talked about losing weight, exercising in small steps. 

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited June 2010

    Hi Deb,

    You sound like me, I am down to 174 as of today and started at about 189 (way too heavy for me).  I'm still one point above the normal range for my BMI, but hopefully I'll get there soon.  I can imagine you would be under enormous stress what with your health, then losing your Mom.  It's truly like PTSD---you've been to war and back, how are you supposed to NOT be stressed?  Glad your biopsy came back normal!  I go tomorrow for a CT scan of my belly as I've been having a lot of pain there, and believe me, I have been stressed out too.  Hoping all will be OK.

    Take care,

    Sharon

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited June 2010

    Hi Deb, please share what you are doing as far as eating/exercising that you lost 17 pounds even on the tamoxifen. I went up another 5 pounds and need to start getting on track soon, had to buy all new wardrobe practically and at this rate some of them don't fit already.

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited June 2010

    Thank you all.

    Blondie~ I eliminated sugar completely from my diet, I have more veggies than fruit and that is it!  I also eliminated caffeine 2 weeks ago tomorrow.  It was VERY hard the first few weeks, but if I the sugar junkie can do it anyone can! 

    Before I went to FL I was walking everyday and doing very well, but when I came back my world crashed and I have stopped walking so much.  I need to start again soon.  After sx I will walk again.

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited June 2010

    Thanks Deb, good luck on Monday, hope your nerves are doing ok.

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited June 2010

    OMG and I forgot I eliminated bad carbs too!  Sorry, it is kinda funny I forgot about that cause it doesnt even phase me anymore.  If we get pizza I just dont eat the dough.  It is easy after the first few weeks.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited June 2010

    Deb...congrats on the 17#....and we'll be thinking of you on Monday...Hugs

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