Chemo June 2010

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  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited June 2010

    Kittycat so sorry to hear about your problems!!  Ya know when I had my muga scan the tech kept saying your pictures are very fuzzy, not sure if they are going to be okay, she kept asking me if i was on blood thinners or something, then I said well I have tissue expanders in and she was like oh, maybe that is it, so i guess the reconstruction does interfere haha.  I hope they get back to you quickly and figure something out for you!!  Haha Jackie, old in one scenario and young in another, just can't win.  I spoke to the clinical trial nurse today to check in and she says we will work on the meds for my next treatment to limit my nauseau, yippee I hope so!!!  Janny good luck with the long shifts this weekend!!

  • tbyrd
    tbyrd Member Posts: 30
    edited June 2010
    Wow kittycat you really have been put through the wringer the last few years.  Looks like after all you've been through they could at least get your tests and schedule right!
  • dsa-deb
    dsa-deb Member Posts: 126
    edited June 2010

    Beanius, Kittycat, Sherry9316:  we all have something in common, (I think), although not the exact same thing.

    on june 23, i start AC x 4 & Taxol x 8.  I had a heart attack 3 years ago and my cardiologist & oncologist have concerns about the Adrimycin because of its danger to the heart; however, onc said there's nothing else effective for the rare type of cancer i have.  how did i get so lucky!!

    everyone else:  am a little envious of you for getting at least the 1st treatment over with!  i can only psych myself up for a few times, then i'm ready to smack someone if they tell me i have to wait one more time!!  this makes 3 attempts to get started----better make it this time.

    however; am learning a lot from each of you and proud of ya, too!

    i think our june 2010 group is multiplying by the day!  thanks danielaes for keeping it all straight!

    deb 

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2010

    dsa - what kind of cancer do you have that is so rare? I am triple negative.  I don't think that's rare, but uncommon.  I hope you fair well on the ACT.

  • dsa-deb
    dsa-deb Member Posts: 126
    edited June 2010

    kittycat:  i have metaplastic carcinoma & am also triple neg.  tumor tissue had to be sent to 3 different labs, clear out to california (& i'm in texas!) before final dx was made.  my breast surgeon said she'd only had 3 patients in her 18+ years of surgery that had this type.  thanks for encouragement----we all need it, don't we?!  

    deb   

  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited June 2010

    Tbyrd:  thanks for the encouraging news about Neurotin and hot flashes.  The hot flashes have been very taxing on me.  I went through menopause in my early 40's and I never had them.  Now there are times when I think I can't breathe!  I hope I get the same benefit from Neurotin that you did.

     Kittycat:  that is discouraging about not getting started on your first day.  I'm so sorry.

    I keep seeing many posting about drinking lots and lots of water.  My question is does it have to be water?  I'm a sweet tea drinker - would that do just as well or is the caffeine bad during chemo?  I don't think I could drink that much water and if I should get nauseous, I'm sure water would be the last thing I would want to drink.

    My neice's wedding is this weekend out of town - should be a nice relaxing event to take my mind off everything.  Then doctor's appointments Monday, CT scan and bone scan Tuesday and chemo starts Wednesday!  I'm a little apprehensive about these scans.  Never had them - don't know anything about them.

  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited June 2010

    Kittycat:  Now that you missed your first session, maybe you and I will be on the same schedule if you get to start next Wednesday.  I notice we have the same drug cycle.

  • MelMel10
    MelMel10 Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2010

    Hi All,

    Sherry - I am also a sweat tea drinker, but I have developed a UTI, so I am staying AWAY from caffiene from now on. Drinking water, juice and then more water.

    The tongue/throat stuff I got was not the dreaded sores, but thrush. So if you don't have actual sores and your tongue/throat feels funny, this may be the culprit. I still have not had any nausea, they gave me ALOXI in my port before my tx and this seems to have done it for me. I am so sorry to see that some of you are having such bad nausea and vomiting. I've been able to work and eat normal meals, I just get really tired at the end of the day. I am praying that SE's for each of you will be minimal. You guys are an awesome group of ladies, keep the spirit!

  • angelwoman1
    angelwoman1 Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2010

    OK everyone, we start tomorrow 1st treatment AC every 2 weeks 4 times and Taxol every 2 weeks 4 times. got my meds before i go in, Emend 80-125mg,Dexamethason 4mg and lorazepam0.5., just want to get started! I hope I due as well as some of you. And kitty I am so very sorry, keep in touch with this group. I have found each and everyone of you are very sweet, and I thank you all!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited June 2010

    Kittycat-  Dang!  I have to say, I might request another heart test.  Perhaps speak to the Radiologist at the facility, NOT the technician.  If she was having a hard time visualizing things due to your impants, she should have consulted with someone more experienced right then and there.  SURELY they have seen implants before.  As for your Oncologist being on vacation.  His office knows how to reach him at all times for important matters OR he must have someone who covers for him.  I would have a problem if my Onc was MIA for a week.  IF this heart test does show something, you might want a 2nd opinion of other chemos that would not be hard on the heart??  I'm sorry for your delay, that has to be tough when you are in the saddle and ready to ride!  Hang in there.

  • brat352
    brat352 Member Posts: 41
    edited June 2010

    (I hope you all excuse my laziness, but I copied this post from another forum - didn't feel like typing this all again)

    Well, finally home from first Chemo treatment and I have to admit - WHAT A NONE EVENT!  Cool

    Though it took a lot longer than I anticipated.  Arrived at MD office at 9:00 a.m. for processing and then up to the clinic area for registration.  Nicely ensconced in my own bed (it's on the hospital floor itself) had blood drawn for initial CBC tests.  That took about an hour for the results, and then the RN tried to get my IV started.  Blew that line out and she called in the expert.  He found a suitable vein and got my saline running.  Started the anti-nausea drug, that took over an hour and then started Taxotere.  She started very slowly to make sure I was handling it okay and then turned up the volume.  No problems.  Again, just a real long time.  After that was through got more saline and then the Cytoxen was started.  Again, very slowly, then when no adverse reaction, opened full bore.  I finally was able to go home at 4:30 p.m.  VERY long day. 

    I feel okay except my eyes feel weird (probably because I read for all of that time).  Came home and made some dinner (very hungry cause I only had some Starbuck's and a muffin at 9:30 a.m.).  Sitting watching TV when it finally happened.  Diarrhea attack!  And I'm feeling a bit bloated (maybe from too much dinner I hope).  Took my Imodium and hope that will calm things down.  I would so much prefer being constipated than having diarrhea.

    Have my next appointment for 6/30 at 10:00 a.m. and I'm hoping it will go faster as I shouldn't have to wait for blood work and the Rx to send up the drugs.  But again, except for the after effects, a real NONE EVENT.  HOORAY!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited June 2010

    brat352-  That a girl!  I'm so glad that your first chemo was non-eventful.  That's what we are all hoping for!  I hope you continue to feel good, fine, okay, or just not lousy!  I'm starting to count down.  Friday is my big day.  What a blessing if I could report back that it was uneventful like you.  Blessings!

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2010

    Designermom - good luck on your 1st chemo treatment! 

    And best to luck to everyone else!  Little to no SE's!!!!  :)

  • twinmomjackie
    twinmomjackie Member Posts: 24
    edited June 2010

    Sherry9316- Since my first treatment yesterday I have been super thirsty so I asked lots of questions about what to drink while I was being infused. My onco nurse said that the immediate thirst was probably from the benedryl. I love coffee so I asked specfically about the caffeine and she said that any caffeinated beverages have to be balanced out with non-caffeinated beverages and then I still need 12 glasses of water, juice, or non-caffienated beverages on top of that each day.

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited June 2010

    Hey guys-

    Been reading along and keeping up with your progress, grateful for your stories. Just wanted to add that my onc nurse highly recommended gatorade and water. At least 8 glasses/day.

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2010

    I've heard the same things about fluids--caffeine dehydrates you so you'd need to drink extra water to make up for it.  I was told I should be drinking enough to pee every hour--the cytoxan is hard on the bladder and needs to get flushed out asap.  Juices, gatorade, lemonade, all are ok.

    Angelwoman1--thinking of you today and hope all goes well.

    I find as my date for chemo gets closer (Mon.) that I am getting more nervous.  Reading everybody's experiences is bringing back that yucky tummy feeling that my last chemo gave me. (I just finished it in Jan.)  I think it'll be even worse once I get in that chair.  So a couple of days ago, while I was at the Hosp. for another appt, I stopped in and asked one of the chemo nurses if I could take an ativan before I come in.  I just wanted to make sure it would be ok with this type of chemo.  She said yes, it was ok.  I have some ativan left from last time--its great because it helps with nausea and anxiety.  I needed it before my last round of chemo, as I would start to feel nauseated as soon as I smelled the alcohol they wipe my port with.  I guess its sort of like ptsd--but I've heard that the reactions fade after awhile.  Unfortunately mine didn't have time to fade yet!

    Anyways, I'll be praying for peace!  And I'm grateful for this site and for everyone who is sharing their experiences, because I'd rather know what could happen than not.

    Take care!

    T

  • mimi9186
    mimi9186 Member Posts: 127
    edited June 2010

    Well the big day is tomorrow for my first treatment.  I seem to be feeling calmer the closer I get which is good as I have been very anxious and worried.

    Brat352 Hope you are still feeling ok

    Angelwoman1  Hope all goes well after yesterdays start.

    Danielases  How are you doing now?  thank you for keeping names and start dates all organized for us.

    Algreach  How are the sore spots in your mouth?

     Wishing everyone a wonderful weekend with no S/E at all.

    Mimi9186

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited June 2010

    Kittycat, hang in there girl!  I know the frustration is the pits.  We will keep you in our prayers and hopefully it will all work out.  You can start next week with me!  I start Tuesday.

     Jenweg, I am sorry you are having a "yucks".  Hopefully it will be better soon and you will be bck on your feet.

    I am starting to feel a bit like a cat on a hot tin roof with the anticipation of the treatments next week.  This is the first week I haven't had a doctor appointment or a test all week and I honestly don't feel sick at all except for the hot flashes.  I had a complete hystectomy in 2004 but they left my ovaries.  I had those removed in Dec and went on hormones.  Obviously once the cancer was found they stopped the hormones (I am ER/PR+) so I am doing the whole hot flash thing again!   I know I should cherish the time I am feeling good but I just want to get started so I can get done!  Ok I feel better getting that out. 

    Thanks for listening!  You guys are the best.  I hope everyone has a good day. 

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited June 2010

    I'm starting June 21, huge surprise due to oncotype results. TCx4.  I took a look at the thread about how to cope with side effects and what to put in a 'chemo basket' but it's overwhelming!  So many posts!  Can anyone give me a quick hit list of things I really need to get and things I need to do in preparation for this chemo regimen?

    Thanks, Julia

  • SKD
    SKD Member Posts: 140
    edited June 2010

    Hi everyone,

    I think my hair is starting to slowly fall out =( I washed my hair yesterday and more hair then usually fell out and then whenever I would run my fingers through my hair, there would always be a couple strands in my hand. It is such a sad feeling but I am bought a wig already and I am going to go pick it up tomorrow. Does anyone know how long it takes until it all falls out or is noticable? 

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited June 2010

    mimi9186- I'll be thinking about you tomorrow as I am starting too.  The massage therapist from my clinic told me she is at the infusion room giving reflexology, they have an art therapist and other stuff.  Who ever thought I would be attending Camp Chemo!!!

    grneyd5600-  Yep!  That's the perfect description...cat on a hot tin roof!   I have so much that I should do today...clean, shop, hang with my sweet son.  I just feel all anxious and testy, not my normal self.  I have the feeling I am getting my period, that might be part of it.  As I THOUGHT I was finished and starting menopause, that would just be the icing!  That's just not right!  

    I'm thinking of all you brave ladies going to Chemo Camp with me.  I know someday I will look back on this and it will just be part of my checkered history!  Blessings to you all!

  • algreach
    algreach Member Posts: 55
    edited June 2010

    Hi all! I'm pleased to report that a week after my first treatment, I seem to be back to normal. Or close. My mouth remains a bit sore, but most foods are tasting okay. I'm still a bit fatigued as well, but not enough to interrupt my day.

    Kittycat--How frustrated you must be with the delay. I hope they get this sorted out quickly.

    Janny99--I've had problems with my teenage daughter the past few days, and I know it's the stress getting to both of us. It doesn't help that exams are just around the corner.

    Sherry9316--My nurses said ALL fluids count. Soup, ice cream, and fruit included. Anything that gets liquid into your body is good. Caffienated drinks pull the liquid from your body, but they will still help flush the drugs out. Just make sure, as others have said, that you add in all sorts of otherfluids. I drank water and Gatorade, and as one of the other ladies mentioned, strawberry-banana juice. But I also consumed low-sodium soups--they went down really nice.

    MelMel10--Glad your thrush got treated. Thanks for the warning.

    Angelwoman1 & Isla--Thinking about you. Hope all is well.

    brat352--Must be nice to have that 1st tx out of the way. :-)

    Julia--My recommendation would be: liquids of all sorts, baby wipes, antacid, a fresh toothbrush, a tube of lip balm, Saltines, and daily Activia yogurt. Anyone else got suggestions?

    SKD--Are you 12 days out from your 1st tx? I was warned that anywhere between 12-14 days the hair would start to fall out. How long it takes is individual and dependent on your cocktail, but I was told that by three weeks most of my hair would be gone. My sister (who has been through this already) told me to wait until the hair starts to fall, then cut it very, very short. I have my wig already, and I'm anticipating the hairs to start falling. I've thought about going commando, but my head is both bumpy and small for my body. I think if I don't wear something, I'll scare myself, LOL.

    Good luck to Mimi and Designermom who are starting treatment tomorrow!

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited June 2010

    Julia  Welcome!  Sorry you had to join our club but we are here to support in any way we can.  As for your question on the short list of things to get ready - go to the main list under Chemo  and look at the first four topics.  One of them is the shopping list to get.  I can't remember the full name of it but the icon for it looks like it has a "push pin" in it.  I just printed it off and went shopping. 

     SKD - Onc told me same thing that Algreach said - anywhere between 12 - 14 days from 1st tx.  I have made the decision to cut my hair on about day 8.  Of all the things I have handled I am not ready for the hair thing so I am going to take some control and have fun with it.  I told my kids I am getting them back for all the wild hair cuts they had - lightening bolts, mohawk.  My husband is going to cut it and we are going to shave designs in along the way.  My husband who normally wears a "high and tight" hasn't had his hair cut since my diagnosis so he is going to let me shave his too.  Bonding....Cool

  • tbyrd
    tbyrd Member Posts: 30
    edited June 2010

    I got a tip on using Phazyme for my stomach problems.  I ran straight to CVS last night and got some after reading the post on another thread.  It didn't work for me but it might for someone else.  I had a sonogram on an ovarian cyst this morning and my gyno is confident that my stomach problems are from that and not from chemo.  Sounds strange since my pains are both high and low on my abdomen but I guess we shall see.  She wants to do another sono in three weeks to see if the cyst goes away so I guess I'm stuck with this for at least that long.  I asked about my ear aches and she said if they get bad or if I start to run a fever then I need to call and in the meantime take Claritin.  Believe it or not my onc gave me her cell phone number and told me to call her in the middle of the night if I had to!

    I had my blood work today, too, and my onc nurse just called to say my blood counts are almost nonexistent.  This is day 8 after my first chemo.  So I guess that's why I'm tired.  She said no movies or church, etc. until they come back up.  I guess that means no Winstar Casino to see Blake Shelton in concert tomorrow night, huh?  I didn't even ask because the answer would probably have brought on the waterworks again.  I've been so emotional today!

    grneyd5600 my husband is wanting to shave his head when I do but I don't think I'll let him.  Its a very sweet gesture but one of us needs to look normal around here.  He wears his hair pretty long and its just wavy and beautiful and dark brown with no gray.  I've always been jealous!  Right now I think I'm going to wait until I absolutely have to before I cut my hair.

    Good luck to everyone starting out tomorrow and early next week!

    Terry

  • dsa-deb
    dsa-deb Member Posts: 126
    edited June 2010

    angelwoman:  you are taking AC/T, too, as i am.  i hope treatment was smooth for you today---will keep up w/your progress so i'll know what signs to look for----i start 6/23 after 2 previous attempts to get this show on the road!

    skd: the 'wig' lady told me yesterday that the 12-14 days is a good marker for hair loss, with about 18 days out being bigger 'clumps' easily pulled out.  she said that the feeling of 'hair being pulled tightly away from the head, like having a ponytail too tight, will be an indicator of the 'middle' ground of hair loss.  earliest sign is a few hairs coming out, then a few more in a couple of days, then patches, then clumps.....or at least that was her description.  she said your scalp will at 1st tingle, & sometimes even having a slight burning sensation, & may also itch along the way.  she suggested getting the hair clipped w/ a #2 blade?? which will thin the hair considerably and will get it as close to the scalp as possible w/out going bald---then just let it come out from there...... by the time she explained all of that, i pretty much told her to shut up---  not sure i will follow her suggestion about the clipper thing as opposed to taking it to the bone/bald.

    tbyrd:  guess you will be a couch potato for a bit!

    designermom:  love the 'chemo camp'----sounds kind of like an elite place/group.  hope your visit to the camp tomorrow goes well!!

    deb  

       

  • PennStater
    PennStater Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2010

    Anyone have any advice on shaving your head?  There's lots of stuff out there about when and if to do it, but nothing about how to actually go about it.  Is it best to use electric clippers?  electric razor?  manual razor?  I figure I've got about a week until mine starts to fall out, and then I plan to shave it.  I guess I could go somewhere to have it done, but I think this is something I'd rather do in private. 

    My thoughts are with all those having their first chemo this week, and best wishes that those of you experiencing delays will be able to get started soon. 

  • dsa-deb
    dsa-deb Member Posts: 126
    edited June 2010

    PenStater:  my hairstylist said to do the electric clippers.  however, i'm sure the razor thing would be effective, although i'm afraid of little 'nicks' like sometimes happens when i shave my legs

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited June 2010

    All you lovelies asking about HAIR, HAIR, HAIR!  I am hoping I may not loose all my hair as I am on CMF.  When they were going to give TC, and for certain I would loose all my hair, I was planning on using my husband's clipper.  He is mostly bald and we shear the rest very short with the shortest attachment.  I bought the clipper at Walgreens for about $20.  My hairdresser recomended getting a plug-in type as the power stays strong.  The battery-operated ones run weak as the batteries go.  If you have never used these, they are a breeze.  The clip on guides (about 1/8 -3/4inch) just run along your head uniformly cutting.  I know a lot of ladies go to barber shops to do this.  I would not want to as I can't stand to be pitied...makes me cry.  As it's not like you are going to ruin your hairdo, it might be easier to just buy a cheap clipper instead of pay the barber.  If anyone is in NYC, and I feel up to it after chemo, I'll bring my clipper and do it for you.  If I do lose my hair, my husband and I are going to have a fatastic bald portrait taken by my photographer friend! I sure am glad to know all of you!

  • jenweg
    jenweg Member Posts: 195
    edited June 2010

    Thanks for the well wishes Jackie, I am finally feeling good YAY!  Good luck tomorrow Mimi and Designermom, I pray you have no bad se's!!  Lots of fluid is def very important.  I drank, drank and drank some more so I could get that poison out of me quickly.  Funny thing is when I was very sick after the treatment, milk tasted awesome to me and I drank it by the gallon.  I see everyone is discussing the great hair debate.  I am shaving mine this weekend, I don't want to wait for it to start coming out in clumps.  I have my wig and scarves and I am ready.  My sister in law does hair so I am lucky enough to have her come to the house to do the deed.  I am nervous.  I feel as though I look like a transvestite (sp?) with my wig on hahaha.  Terry how funny about your husband needing to look normal at least, it really helps to have some sick sense of humor doesn't it!!!  Well good luck tomorrow girls, I will be thinking of you!!

  • Beanius
    Beanius Member Posts: 1,697
    edited June 2010

    Hi to all, just popping in to say I had a computer problem and just got back on line this afternoon. I will need to catch up, but just wanted to say I'm thinking of you June troopers and wishing you all the best.

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