May 2010 Chemo
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I got the shot Wednesday, I was a zombie until Friday, bone pains weren't too bad, more like a mild arthritis when the weather is bad, but right now it hurts almost like I'm having a miscarriage (when I had it my back and tailbone hurt not the tummy). I can barely walk and I waddle when I walk. I'm not sure I can take Advil, the nurses said "Tylenol" so I'm sticking with it. I might take a Lortab later if It is still this bad.
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Westiemom - can you go out to a park or a picnic? Somewhere not crowded. I just wash my hands like crazy, hand-sanitize... and I NEVER put my hands near my face.
Day - I'm sorry you are having such a tough time. I hope the pain gets better! I said goodbye to my taste buds... will be sooo happy when they return. Not tasting and pretty much feeling out of whack is getting dull. But, everyday that passes is one more day down!
Spininfool - love the picture!! Awesome story of DH and girls helping with a mohawk. I've told my boys they can do mine when the time comes, which is going to be soon. We're on vacation, and I'm glad to be clogging up the hotel tub drain and not mine, because I am losing lotsa hair right now!!!
Sacphotomom - I have heard from others that ginger tea is good too - I'll have to get some when we get home! Glad it is helping.
njbhwgirl - Ahhh, enjoy your cocktail!! I feel like I have a hangover all the time... I wish having a drink would have a double-negative effect, and actually make me feel good, but I don't think it works that way... Boo!! Enjoy every minute of your good week!
My stomach is so bloated ALL the time, it's just uncomfortable. Nothing I am taking helps with it. Any ideas? I've tried pepcid and some nausea meds. Onc gave me a script for nexium; think that will help? My headaches got better when we realized they were coming from the zofran, so we cut that pill out and the headaches have gotten better. On a lighter note - we're having a good time - took the kids to T-Rex in downtown disney for lunch, and enjoyed a caramel peanut apple from the candy store. My youngest got to build a dinosaur and he was so excited (my goodness, 3 is just such a great age!!). Tomorrow is SeaWorld. It's really hot - but I have sunscreen, water, an umbrella, and we'll stop in the AC buildings often! We head to Kennedy Space Center Wednesday, then home for Thursday infusion. After my taxol and herceptin, we'll do AC dose dense... my onc didn't care if we did it every 3 or every 2, so DD gets it done quicker, and I think the research may lead toward the DD being a bit more effective, so couldn't hurt.
HUGS to everyone - and here's hoping for a SE free week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Leanna9: feels good to know you are enjoying yourself despite some SE's...I miss my kids at that age so much... 3 is a great age but I loved 4 even more.. I hoping to take my 19 yr old son to Universal Studios this December to see Harry Potter World... He is still a 3 yr old at heart.
Sea World is awesome..tons of walking though ..stay hydrated....oh and btw the best thing that helps me is rolaids...works better than anything ..but if you are bloated try increasing your water and I would try maalox...worth a shot
Day: omg... you are a trooper...I don't know if you can take this but I would definitely try something with Naproxen in it. When get a little joint pain after the shot, I take my old prescription arthrotec (for arthritis).within 24 hours I am as good as new....Try Aleve if you can
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OK the pain after Neulasta was the worse for me the nurses told me to take Tylenol NO Advil! I ended up on the norco, 2 of them,the surgeon gave me because I couldn't stand th pain any more.. I had horrible pain in the neck...when I went to my onc I told her the Tylenol did nothing she told me to take the Advil...works better....so Day definitely ask about it..she said I could take it for the 48 hours after the shot.,.and then I took it again when it kicked in when my white blood went down. and I got the pain in the spine kick it right out....
leanna 9 I am on dose dense AC went OK til the 2nd treatment when I felt I never really recovered before 3rd treatment ..this 3rd one is not so bad tired, no tastes, but not really feeling so bad this time..day 5 today and still tired but not shaky or anything..my last AC is on the 16th then I start Taxotere for 4 doses 3 weeks apart...
ok it went from being so darn cold to hot! hot! hot!..I have the AC on so low my DH and son are wearing sweaters...loving the feel of the AC on my head...lol good night all
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Good Morning! Hope everyone had good weekends (or as good as can be expected with everything we're going through).
Drim & njbhgirl: My treatments are at Sloan Kettering's Breast Center on E. 66th St. When I was dx'd with thyroid cancer last year, I decided against staying in Central PA for treatment & chose MSKCC (that surgery was June 15, almost a year ago!). So, when I found the mass in my L breast at the end of Feb, I knew I would go back there. I'm on a 2-wk rotation, just had # 2 on June 4. I'd love to plan a get-to-gether - did that with one of the gals from the April mastectomy group who lives in Scranton, PA (where I grew up - all my family is still there; I live in Carlisle, near Harrisburg). Drim - thanks ever so much for the offer of help!
For anyone still dealing with nausea: I had a terrible time with it after my 1st treatment - took 1 Compazine which did not help, made me feel jittery & worse. My sister, Margi, an RN and the director of an out-patient surgery center in Scranton, told me that Compazine has lots of negative SEs and they haven't used it for years. She suggested I talk with the onc about substituting Zofran, which I did - what a difference! I had no nausea on the ride home this time (took 1 tab with some dinner before leaving NYC) & none since (haven't needed many of them). I was warned about headaches and constipation (what doesn't give us constipation?) with the Zofran, but I didn't notice any worse headache than I had with the other treatment. I still take an Ativan before bed, so I can get a good night's sleep (even if I get up to pee 6 times from all the liquids I'm drinking, I can still fall back to sleep!)
I didn't have any immediate reaction to the Neulasta shot, but 1 week to the day, I had pain in both hips. The onc nurse on Fri said the pain is a good sign - regeneration in the bone marrow. So, even though it's a pain - literally - it's one more bullet in the chamber!
Packjen: Love the T shirt - I was getting ready to order one last week, but couldn't decide on a color. Can't wait to to get it! Nana & Snipinfool: Great photos! Kathy: Sorry you have to be here, but welcome! Golfergirl, Summer, JennyB MNLinda, fotopet sacphotomom, westiemom, Day: Thanks for sharing all your experiences, good and bad. Some days are so much harder than others, the tears come for good reasons and no reasons. I just know that, no matter how I'm feeling, reading about your days and knowing how you all are coping with this helps me more than I can say. Love you all!
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Day: When I had my pain from the Neulasta shot it was in my hips and tailbone too. Then it went up my spine. It only lasted a day. I took a pain killer but I didn't have enough food in my stomach and then got sick. It did help the pain though. My onoc gave me a steriod taper to help with the pain instead of a pain killer. Maybe you can check with the ono when you go.
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Irishtess - so glad your treatment went better this time in terms of nausea. It's great when we figure things out. I'm glad you're up to a get-together. Would love to meet you and njbhwgirl! Also, I saw your jewelry website and there are some beautiful pieces but there is one I'm particularly interested in so I will need to PM you. Not sure you're up to making jewelry at the moment. Interesting about the hip pain. I had hip 'issues', not so much pain but it felt like the hip joints were out of line (which I do get normally sometimes anyway) and this went on for a few days starting about a week after the neulasta shot. Now I'm starting to feel them again and it's been 5 days since neulasta. That's the only affect I get from the neulasta so not bad and good to know that it means regeneration!
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Irishtess: I read you live in Carlisle. I grew up in Mechanicsburg and now live in Reading.
Leanna9: I am glad you are having a great time in Disney. Enjoy the Space Center. One place we have never been. Would love to go some day. Be careful at Sea World. Stay hydrated and sun screened!!
Day: I am so sorry you are having such a tough time with all your treatments. My ono told me that I could take Advil for a day or two if the pain got too bad. He said the anti inflamatory works better.
What a weekend I had. Our local relay for life event was this weekend. The wonderful people I work with put a team in for me. I work at a preschool so my boss sent flyers out to all the parents and had fund raisers since March about the upcoming event. I was so blown away. At the relay each team is suppose to have someone walking on the track for 24 hours. I had parents come out at 3 in the morning to walk. We had every hour covered. It was so emotional to see all the people who came out to support me. Everytime I think aobut it I still cry. On top of the relay this weekend I also had my county track meet. When I was getting ready to give my pep talk to my kids the CYO president (I coach a catholic youth organization) said they had a presentation for me. He had bought all the kids t-shirts: Front: St. Catharine's Track Team Back: We're Behind Coach Cronan (with a pink ribbon between the we're behind) I was so blown away. To top everything off the kids ended up winning the County Meet! It was such an emotional but wonderful weekend.
Hope everyone has a great week.
Good luck to everyone who has treatment this week!
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Leanna9-- you might try Acidopholous for your bloating. With all the meds and things you are taking your natural flora that poplulates your stomach and intestine are probably out of whack. You can buy it at your local health food store, or if you have a Trader Joe's it is much cheaper there.
RedBarb -- It sounds like a wonderful weekend. Did you go out and stay at the relay the entire time? Was it like a campout?
I ended up at the ER for several hours again yesterday. I was having an allergic reaction to something and I have no idea what it was. Started with red, itchy bumps on the back of my head on Saturday morning and by Sunday morning the rash had spread, my eye and lips were slightly swollen. I went in and got epi, steroids, antihistamine.
I have a feeling it has to do with the neupogen. I took my last shot on Friday. They tested my wbc at the ER and they were at 25,000. That's somewhere around twice the rate for a normal person. My onc does not believe it is the neupogen so she is referring me to an allergist.
Oh well, another round another mystery.
Jen
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Well it was a long weekend!!! I'm going to blame it on the hormones but all I did was cry all weekend and that is definitely NOT me! My hair was falling out like crazy so I think that played a role too. I actually felt a little better after I had it shaved - less trauma I guess. Now it all seems kind of real though. My DH & kids have been encouraging - telling me I look like GI Jane and that they think it looks good enough that I can go out with nothing on my head
I am going to the Look Good Feel Better class tomorrow so I'm looking forward to that.
Snipinfool - Love the mohawk!
Redbarb - Sounds like you had a great weekend full of love & support!
Packjen - Keep us posted on the mystery.
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Good day everyone hoping that you all had a good weekend despite the problems. My 3rd taxol weekly chemo due last friday was skipped due to an abcess resulting from infection and low RBC. I was placed on antibiotic(vanco) infusion for three days(fri -sun) and blood transfusion on saturday. Refused to be bothered by this setback, my daughter arranged for me to travel with her yesterday to Portland, Oregon where she's due to present a paper at a conference today. I slept well all through the night and will be leaving for San Francisco tomorrow. I look forward to my friday's treatment.
LOVE YOU ALL.
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Jen: So sorry to hear about your visit to the ER. It does sound like the neupogen to me, but what do I know. I hope they figure this mystery out real soon and you are feeling better soon.
Snipinfool: I love the Mohawk!
Summer38: I remember feeling the same way about my hair, but once you make the decision to take control of the one thing in all this that we can control and shave it off, it does make you feel a litttle better. It still sucks though. I have to tell you though that I have gotten more compliments on my new hair than when I had longer hair. I don't know if it;s the sympthany comments or if they really feel that way. I can tell you this that once my hair grows back it will never be long again. It is so easy to throw a baseball hat on and leave instead of having to do my hair. When I had my long hair I couldn't wear a hat because my hair was so thick. I hope you start to feel better and just remember that the More POSITIVE you stay the better you will feel. Let me know how the Look Better Feel Good program goes, I am going to one on June 14. Are you going with someone or by yourself?
Cleob: I am sorry they had to skip your treatment. I'm glad you were able to get away and relax for alittle bit. I hope your treatment goes well on Friday.
Love you all!
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Jen: So sorry to hear about your visit to the ER. It does sound like the neupogen to me, but what do I know. I hope they figure this mystery out real soon and you are feeling better soon.
Snipinfool: I love the Mohawk!
Summer38: I remember feeling the same way about my hair, but once you make the decision to take control of the one thing in all this that we can control and shave it off, it does make you feel a litttle better. It still sucks though. I have to tell you though that I have gotten more compliments on my new hair than when I had longer hair. I don't know if it;s the sympthany comments or if they really feel that way. I can tell you this that once my hair grows back it will never be long again. It is so easy to throw a baseball hat on and leave instead of having to do my hair. When I had my long hair I couldn't wear a hat because my hair was so thick. I hope you start to feel better and just remember that the More POSITIVE you stay the better you will feel. Let me know how the Look Better Feel Good program goes, I am going to one on June 14. Are you going with someone or by yourself?
Cleob: I am sorry they had to skip your treatment. I'm glad you were able to get away and relax for alittle bit. I hope your treatment goes well on Friday.
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I had the appointment with the new oncologist today. She seems to be an absolutely wonderful lady, very patient and taking great care that the patient understands everything, and paying a lot of attention to their needs. She explained to me some points of my treatment that nobody did before - like why I have to get the ALND done, because of the met in the SLN, there is a possibility that there is metastasis in other axillary lymph nodes that might not get completely blasted by the chemo. She knows very well my BS, Dr. Dooley, and she assured me that he always does the best to take out the minimum amount of nodes to reduce the risk of LE while at the same time he takes enough to decrease the risk of recurrence. She explained to me that if I had had IDC only, then probably ALND wouldn't have been done, but because I had both IDC and ILC and the Ki-67 of the ILC is slightly higher than the one of the IDC, thus presenting greater risk of recurrence (and if it comes back the chances of mets in other parts of the body are very high) - anyway, to make long story short, that is why I have to have ALND. I am sorry if I sound a little bit confusing but I took a Percocet and for the first time in a week I am pain free. It was soooo hard to get everywhere today, imagine a miscarriage pain combined with broken tailbone pain, and see me practically waddling all over the place. The friend who took me to the appointment was actually making fun because I was walking fast, much faster than him (probably I looked like a penguin) and I told him, I am in pain anyway when I walk, not matter if I walk fast or slow, so why not walk faster and be in pain a shorter time? lol
Anyway, she prescribed me Percocet for the pain, Ambien to be able to sleep (and told me to make sure and call if it doesn't work) . She said I don't have thrush, just a mouth-burn from the chemo, and nothing really helps curing it, just a couple more days and it will go away. She said I did very good rinsing with hidrogen peroxide and Biotene and using the benadryl/maalox stuff - that was what she was going to tell me to do, ha! It is better anyway,after the dr. visit, we dropped my prescriptions and went to lunch to Golden palace, and I COULD TASTE THE FOOD. Ah, it was sooooooo good!
Anyway, I think I will be sleeping on and off for a few days now, got pain killers, got sleeping pills, what do I need more?
I hope everybody's day is good and you don't have too many problems. I'll try and write more later, right now I feel I have a high probably from the Percocet and it makes it hard to focus.
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Day: I'm glad you had a good visit with the new onoc. I'm sure everything will go much better for you. You now have confidence in your doc and she cares about what you think and feel. Enjoy your food now. Have a great night and wonderful sleep
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Day I thought about you today cause I knew you had an appt with your onc. Glad you like the new doctor and I'm so glad you're feeling better. I take ambien and it helps me and I don't wake up feeling hungover. Have a great evening.
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Thank you so much for your kind words. I've been dozing on the recliner with a book (pretending I'm reading) now I just took the Ambien, I'll finish checking my email and head to bed. Can you believe that once the Percocet kicked in, I felt happy, for the first time in so long? I mean, happy. Even the touch of the summer blanket on my legs was feeling good, I felt so relaxed and worriless. It's unbelievable how miserable can pain make you and how happy the lack of it.
Have a good night, sweet sisters.
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Day- I am happy to hear your appt with your new onc. went well. She sounds like a good match for you and will help get you where you need to be. Sleep tight and we will be here for you when you wake up.
Merry
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Westiemom, sorry to hear about the difficulties. Do pray things improve. I spent Saturday and Sunday on the couch, feeling very weak. Wondering how I will make it till the end of August...felt if I started to cry, I wouldn't stop. So, I didn't start. Worked yesterday, but not up to speed. Up early this am and feeling a lot more like I can do this.
Redbarb, you have a great attitude, I am actually liking getting out of the shower and not having to do my hair....AND what an amazing weekend. You have such a great support group. Winning the meet just caps off how great you are and how loved you are!
Snipinfool, it must be so much worse when you have to deal with a ‘period'. Being through menopause makes this easier. It just gives me more cause to hold all of you up as heros! Love the mohawk story, this too will be memories for you and your family - making it stronger.
Leanna, so glad you are getting to put this aside for a little bit and enjoy your vacation. Disney is such fun. Three year olds are so amazing. My grandson is nine and I so remember all of the wonderful things he would say at that age....I loved it.
NJgirl, you sound amazing, taking your 19 year old to Universal, such fun. He'll never forget it! Our kids went places with us well into their 20's. Still do, just harder now, having their own families and schedules.
Irishtess, you are amazing, one cancer should be enough. I admire your strength and courage. I have taken the Zofran and have not had any nausea at all.
Packjen, sorry to hear about the allergy - rash. Do hope they figure it out, so you can stay on this path to recovery sooner.
Summer38 - as I said earlier, felt like crying most of the weekend. I think it is okay to have our dips - every so often.
Cleob, way to let nothing hold you down. - you're amazing and an inspiration to all of us!
Day, pray everything gets on course for you now that you have confidence in your dr. It makes all the difference.
Have a great day - off to get dressed for work!
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Does anyone know how I can take a picture from facebook and use as my picture on this site? If you do can you please let me know. Thanks.
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Day - I'm so happy you have found an Onc you can feel good about! It really does make all the difference. I'm glad you're feeling better!
Redbarb - I am going to the class today alone. My MIL wanted to go with me but I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to bring an "outsider". I don't want any of the other women to feel uncomfortable (ie taking wigs, hats off) so I figured I'd try and do this by myself. I'm looking forward to it & I'll let you know how it goes.
BTW, I went to work yesterday with my shaved head! Received only compliments (what are they supposed to say really! LOL) but after the initial shock and anxiety of it I really kind of forgot I was bald the rest of the day!
Hope everyone has a great day!
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Hi everyone, Had my 2nd a/c on thursday(June 3rd). Talked with my onc and they did a Zofran drip prior to the chemo and no acute nausea this time!!! My energy has been really, really low for a few days, too tired to read or write to you all. So I am catching up today. Neulasta hurt my tailbone on the 8th day last time, but no one seemed to think it was the cause. Onc said the only pain from it would be in during first 48 hours. But I had to take percocet for 24 hours to just be able to move. Anyway, my bf shaved my head on saturday. It was easier than the strands of hair falling constantly on everything. I am still adjusting, but agree that it is great to scrub my scalp and throw on a scarf. I hate the indigestion and ongoing nausea that seems to happen any time I eat or drink. I am still walking and doing yoga, and trying to keep a positive mind set. The hardest for me is knowing this is the beginning of treatment, and I have 2 more a/c and 12 weekly taxol. One day at a time, I know. It is wonderful to be a part of this group. Having the support is wonderful,
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Patricia: I had the Neulasta shot on a Friday 10:00 am and didn't have any pain until Wednesday 2:00am. My ono. said it was from the shot and gave me a prescription for a steriod taper. I never ened up filling it for the first treatment because by the time I got it I didn't have any more pain. I did end up taking a pain killer on too empty a stomach and I got sick from that. I filled it for this time just in case.
As far as my hair, I still have some of a crew cut left but the sides are really balding now. I am debating about just shaving the rest off but I'm afraid to do that and cut myself and get an infection. I had one of my preschool parents give me a hair product that is suppose to help regenerate the hair. I haven't had a chance to really look at it so once I do I will let everyone know what it is and how it works
Summer38: I asked them about taking someone from the outside and they said that was fine, but i'm not sure if I will or not. I know what you mean about the bald head. I have on several occasions walked outside without my hat on. I completely forget that I have very little hair. I think we are lucky that in our society any hair do is pretty much acceptable. I guess we can thank our rebelious teenagers for wanting to make a statement with hair.
Have a great day everyone!
Barb
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Hi Ladies - I am just back from a busy weekend here in NJ. We had Relay for Life in our town this weekend also. About 5 weeks ago, I put together a team to walk and we set a goal of raising $2500. I am so excited, I was just looking on line and my team exceeded our goal and as of this morning raised $4116. I had 38 people join my team and all of them came and walked some part of the the event. The goal is to have someone from your team walking at all times. I realize at times like this how truly blessed I am to have such wonderful family and friends to support me. I had my 3rd tx of AC on Thursday so I wasn't sure how much I would be able to walk, but I really surprised myself. I took a lot of breaks, but managed to walk on and off until Midnight. My dh and his friends all took the night shift. We followed this up on Sunday with my 9 year old dd having 3 softball games in a town 1 hour away and my ds having a soccer game. I think keeping busy is helping me to keep going, days like today when I have down time, I seem to feel worse. Maybe it is just in my mind!
I am now at day 6 after tx 3 and I am just starting to get the mouth sores again...ugh. I have been using Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash and was hoping that would help me this time but a little while ago I started to feel them coming. I too have been having a sour type stomach since the tx and even water taste terrible. I am taking probiotics, nexium, antigass meds and reglan for my stomach but nothing really seems to be helping the bloating, gassiness and just general yucky belly feeling. I did try the clariten suggestion and WOW did that help, I had very minimal amounts of achiness this time. So thanks for the suggestion.
I think of you all often! You are such a great support system.
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LauraM: That's awesome how much money you guys raised. I am impressed that you put your team together and organized everything. I don't know that I could have done it. I saw how much time my boss put into everything. What fundraisers did you do to raise money or did you just get donations? I am still waitng to see exactly how much money we raised. We have a wrap up session on June 28th. I'm sorry you are having the mouth sores again. HOw long did they last the last time? I hope not too long.
Barb
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Went to the Look Good Feel Better program this afternoon - it was great!!!! I happened to be the only participant so I had three lovely women pampering me and making me look beautiful! I came home with a bag full of great cosmetics and lotions. It really is a great program and these volunteers were so helpful. I highly recommend that you all look for it in your area and go if you haven't already.
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Summer38: I am so glad you had a great time and how awesome that you were the only one. I hope my experience is just as great.
Barb
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In my area, the only date for the program during the chemo was June 3rd. I was two days after the 2nd treatment and one day after the Neulasta, and being a zombie. Sigh.
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Barb, if you go to your Facebook page and right click on the image you want, you should get a menu with the option "Save image as..." that will let you put it on your local drive. You can then go to your profile and edit it, click the browse button and navigate to it.
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MNLinda: I did it! This picture was taken by one of my preschool parents at the relay for life. You can;t see the words on the shirt, they say Fight Like a Girl. A hugh success at the relay!
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