Less than two weeks 'til my surgery ... help!

Less than two weeks 'til my surgery ... help!

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  • pinkbutterfly6186
    pinkbutterfly6186 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2010
    Before I get into all the details, first want to say:  I understand many choose the TRAM route.  Anyone here DISSATISFIED?  Wish you would have removed your healthy breast?  Anyone here gone bilateral (mastectomy) and regretted it?
     
    I HAD this all settled.  Ready to proceed.  Made myself a FINAL appt. with my Oncologist because I have to be 100% SURE that taking my ovaries out is the right thing to do (he mentioned it when I was first diagnosed, then I discussed the idea with my gyne. doctor).  Actually the appt. was with his PA, whom I love just as much as I love/trust him.
     
    YES absolutely he supports ovary removal.  His PA asked about my reasons for removing my healthy breast.  I told her a) there is reasonably some risk of having a cancer in this breast.  b) i don't want to have 2 mammograms each yr. because of the cost & radiation + likely MRI (bc my cancer was lobular) ... I really don't like the cost to me of the MRI.  c) the appearance of my removed right breast does not bother me ... when I am home (before going out) I HAVE to dress with a bra & my prosthesis bc my remaining breast gets in my way ... lol, not to mention how it looks ... one boob, one not.  d) I do not feel ready for reconstruction.  I have met with the PS twice now.  My thought THEN was reconstruction based on a bilateral mastectomy, and I have asked my gen. surgeon to do the surgery in such a way that I will always have the choice of reconstruction should I decide that later on down the road.
     
    The PA could not tell me what my risk factor is for recurrent cancer once my ovaries are removed, and dog gone .... I left w/o the doctor telling me either (she called him in)!!!  He came in PRO favor of me keeping my left breast.  He's done this before ... asking me how my husband feels, etc., telling me if there's ANY question of keeping it to keep it.  Well I don't think this is a simple decision for any of us to make, is it?
     
    Til yesterday I was A-OK with the removal.  Now I'm told my chance of recurrence is even less once the ovaries come out.  Ok, so why remove it then?  It is okay to remove it for cosmestic reasons?  It is ok to remove it bc I don't want to have mammograms & MRI's anymore?  Am I going to HATE having removed it, once it's gone?
    I do have a concern re: sexuality, but dh assures me we'll work around this.  Honestly, I haven't read much about that here.
     
    I said no to reconstruction when I realized everything the lat. dorsi flap entailed.  I'm just not up for it & honestly, I don't think I EVER will be.  I don't like the bilateral implant idea.  I don't like the idea of the PS getting it wrong (one higher than the other ... that I've read about).  WELL if I keep my healthy breast the PS can do the other ... Tram?  I DO like the idea of a free tummy tuck.  I'm DEFINITELY more open to this than the lat flap.  And I guess that is where my Oncologist is coming from.  If there is ANY possibility that I would be open to that surgery, then I should contine to wait.
     
    So is this what it comes down to for me?  Deciding how much I want to keep my healthy breast?  I thought I had that sorted out.  Don't want breast cancer again.  Don't want mammograms.  Don't want MRIs. 
     
    Am I going to MISS my breasts?  I've made friends with my prosthesis.  I don't mind it, really.  I don't always want to have one tho, bc I HATE having one breast only.  It's either two or none, that I want.  If I remove the healthy one, I can get two prosthesis.  GREAT.  Or, I can investigate this tram surgery a little more & take that route. 
     
    I think I understand if I do the tram, the PS would lift my other breast?  He's HAVE to .... lol ... for me to be happy.
     
    I've been reading Susan's Love's Breast Book, and she doesn't advocate breast removal either.  I know bc of my lobular cancer I will HAVE to have MRI's.  Cost could be a concern for me.
     
    Honestly, I was looking forward to having no breasts.  I love to garden.  I'm at the point where I HAVE to exercise.  HAVE TO.  So much more comfy w/o breasts ... lol.  I was looking forward to being able to throw on a tshirt, no bra, and do whatever .... hang out here, go for a bike ride.  Now when I'd be out in public, I'd put on the prosthesis, bc otherwise my fitted shirts wouldn't hang right. 
     
    Thanks for listening to me!  Please, any thoughts?  I'd made my peace, then the doc threw in the .... well, it doesn't have to come off ....   :(   I so want to do the right thing!  Don't get me wrong ... I am not excited about breast removal ... in fact I'm really scared about it .... especially praying it won't mess up the sexuality aspect of my life .... but walking around with one boob (like now ... sitting here in my jammies) ... I hate that. 
      
      
      
     
  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited May 2010

    Oh, dear, I can hear your confusion and concern!  I can't really advise you on what is best for YOU, but I can give you some things to think about, things that influenced my decision to have my remaining breast removed and both reconstructed: 

    1.  Yes, mastectomy to reduce risk of bc is acceptable.  For me, the risk of a bc in the remaining breast is higher than the general population, but not so high as to be a certainty.  However, he anxiety, fear, pain and horror of the annual mammogram process is more than I am willing to live with.  While finances for the mammos are not an issue, and I'm too claustrophobic to ever have an MRI even if it were recommended, I can see where that is an important consideration, and one that is likely to be come more and more important over time as I don't imagine MRI costs will go down in the future. 

    2.  Will you miss your breasts?  Sure.  Mastectomy is a fancy word for amputation.  EVERYONE who has an amputation misses the body part that is lost.  Everyone grieves losing a body part.  That is normal.  Will the benefits of being breastless outwiegh the loss of the breasts?  Hard to say.  Like you, I'm a uni and, while I've made friends with Silicone Sally, she is still uncomfortable, hot and heavy, and leaving home without putting on a bra and the prosthesis is uncomfortable for me now that t-shirt and tank top weather is here.  Being DDD on the right and -A on the left makes for some funny looks when I'm not wearing a sweater, jacket or coat. 

    3.  These decisions can be made in steps.  For instance, have your ovaries removed, recover, and see what life is like that way.  Perhaps knowing the bc risk is much lower after that will make the mammos and MRIs less anxiety producing, although it won't change the cost issue.  If you live without ovaries for a while and find yourself wanting to have the other breast removed (for whaever reasons, doesn't matter), then you can have the remaining breast removed.  Recon does not have to be done immediately.  Live without breasts for a while.  If you like that state, stay breastless.  You'd be able to use prostheses when you wanted to (some have different sizes for different occasions or moods) and go without when you don't want.  If you decide you would prefer to have breasts then you can research recon procedures and make a considered choice.  

    4. Considering recon choices--be aware that TRAM or DEIP flap recon can only be done once.  If you reconstruct one breast that way, then later want to recon the other you would have to use one of the other procedures.  This is one thing that factored into my choice of prophy mast with bilateral recon--I can't stomach the thought of implants, lat dorsi recon won't give me enough breast size to even show without implants.  Each process has it's pros and cons.  If you haven't already heard about it, Kathy Steligo wrote a book called The Breast Reconstruction Guidebook  Issues and Answers from Research to Recovery.  I got a used copy from Amazon for a couple dollars including shipping, and many libraries have it.  She goes through each procedure in detail and lists pros and cons.  

    5.  One last thing--it's perfectly normal to have second thoughts right before a major change or procedure.  It's so common it has cliches to describe it:  "cold feet"  "wedding jitters"  and a medical term:  "decisional conflict" 

    6.  Ok thought of one more thing--any insurance that covers mastectomy must also cover reconstruction INCLUDING procedures to the opposite breast to acheive symmetry, so if you chose to reconstruct one breast the lift or reduction (or both) to the other would be covered.  

    TAKE YOUR TIME MAKING UP YOUR MIND!  You have time to think, and if you need more time to think and research, TAKE IT!

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited June 2010

    I don't know if you have had your surgery yet but thought I would post a relpy any way.

    I had a BLM, I had 42 D breasts. My cancer was very agressive and I decided that I didn't really think I could go through the treatment process a second time and decided to do to bilateral.  I do not regret it in any way.  I didn't want to deal with one large breast and no breast. My doctor did not try to talk be out it, but she did state that the decision would be up to me. It does reduce your risk of reoccurance.

    I don't even wear a prothesis and prefer to go boob-less. I do wear something for very special occasions but it is very rare. I have just learn to dress is ways that don''t make me look boob-less. People who don't know don't even notice.

    I don't know if this helps you are not but thought I would give you my thoughts on the BLM. Do what is best for you!  Sending love & prayers!

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited June 2010

    Pink,

    If you haven't heard about it already there is a website you should check out called BreastFree.org 

    It was created by one of our own BCO members Erica (Barb) and has a wealth of information for women trying to make the decision re: reconstruction or going breast free.  There are many personal stories, photos and very informative topics that you may find very helpful.

    I know you are struggling with your choices now and my only suggestion would be to give yourself more time until you can truly feel at peace with your decision. NativeMainer has given you some excellent advice.  Take it one step at a time, don't feel you need to make a decision about everything all at the same time.  Research and talk to others, but ultimately it has to be what you feel you can most easily live with.

    I will say that I had bilateral masts, one modified radical, the other prophylactic (but with a previous history of BC) and I chose not to have reconstruction.  I am very happy with my choice, I go flat without prosthesis and find it gives me total freedom and comfort which is a high priority for me.

    I wish you the best in your decision process and the best possible of outcomes.  I hope you will give yourself the time to find out what that best decision is.

  • NSWTD
    NSWTD Member Posts: 210
    edited June 2010

    I did not have invasive BC but rather DCIS which did not show signs of having developed into anything more serious.   About one month before surgery I was having my MRI and they saw someting in the other breast. I was in a panic.   Turned out to be nothing.  I still could have done BLM, but chose not to. I have right mastectomy only with immediate reconstruction - SEIA (similar to DIEP).  I had a nice belly I had been growing and I liked the idea of a reconstructed breast made from my own tissue.  Of course, most do not ever want a mastectomy, but since I had no option (multiple sites in breast, really small breasts to begin with) I could not be happier with my results.  Recovery was longer, but heck, I needed the time off.   Now, it is 3 month later and you absolutely cannot tell I had a thing done. I can wear bathing suits, tank tops, even in my bra you cannot tell one from the other.  My PS was fantastic.  

     I was pretty active before my BC and did not want to have to worry about implants, or prosthetics.  

    But that is me.  You need to do what is right for you. I am willing to accept that there is some chance the other breast will develop cancer.  But, there is also a chance I could be run over by a truck tomorrow too.   I am not trying to be flip, just realistic.   If I have to have another surgery, so be it. For now I am happy i have one real boob and one fake (foob). 

    Best of luck to you in your search for answers. I know I found it very helpful to have this site to read and "talk" with others before my surgery. 

  • baywatcher
    baywatcher Member Posts: 532
    edited June 2010

    Hi Pinkbutterfly-

    I don't know if you have had surgery or not. I had a unilateral for 4 years and I was ok with it. But once I had the bilateral, I became a nut case.  

    I don't know what happened. I thought I was prepared..but I wasn't. You can send me a private message if you want to and I will talk with you privately.

  • Mouser
    Mouser Member Posts: 245
    edited June 2010

    Baywatcher --

    Thank you for saying how hard it can be, even when you know why you did it! So often on this forum, everyone is just-fine with their mx, no problem -- sometimes i wonder if i'm the only one who hates losing body parts.

    I had a left mx August '08 - my decision; it was a mastectomy to prove i didn't need one, that the DH was nothing more than ADH (it wasn't). My onc thought another lumpectomy would be enough; i thought taking 7 cm of tissue wouldn't leave enough to bother (even on a 34D, which i had then). so no one pushed me, no one urged me. Physically, it was the easiest surgery i've had. And still i had a hellacious time with depression for months afterwards - even tho i have a very good therapist *and* had months of excellent physical therapy. In spite of beingn the sort of woman who has never dyed my hair (30% gray now) and almost never wears makeup... massive depression.

    Even now, i look at my lopsided self and wonder what i'd do if the other breast had ... something. IDC, for instance. Would i go thru rads again?  As much as i hated that? Would i have an mx immediately? I honestly don't know ... both choices seem equally awful to me. I hate being lopsided, but ....

    I also decided against reconstruction, because all choices seem so bad. I can't stand the thought of implants (more surgery n 5-10 yrs? fibrosis?);  besides, i'd had rads. DIEP etc involves an awful lot of surgery -- i'm tred f it. And for what? It would leave me with more numb areas on my belly -- the one from the hysterectomy is annoying enough. And a breast without sensation... something not-me. So i'm not even tempted by recon... and *still* i freak out whe i stop to think that i'm lopsided ... it doesn't make sense to me!

    So thank you for telling me i'm not alone in reacting badly, unexpectedly, to mx!

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