MARCH 2010 Rads Group

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  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited May 2010

    Marianna - so glad to hear all is good with your colon! I've been reading this thread but haven't had a lot to post lately.  However, I really do love to read what's going on with everyone. I've also been following the "Hair, Hair, Hair" thread as I'm in hair regrowth mode....yay!! 

    Sherri 

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited May 2010

    Hurrah! Marianna!  I'm so happy for you. 

    You have given me the courage to go get my own--like you, I have been stalling and stalling and stalling.  But stalling won't make it go away, will it?

    So glad for you and your results.

    As for not thinking about cancer, I might want to Not Think About IT but I can't.  I still have to deal with tamoxifen plus we are making arrangements for my husband to fly to Europe to help out a friend who was recently diagnoised with lung cancer.  He had to have 1 lung removed and will be starting chemo soon.  It is so sad--he is just not that old a guy.  And the daughter of a friend of my mothers is also being treated for cancer--much worse than what I had to deal with as it seems to be in her hip.  Which is a long way of explaining why, even if I don't want to think about it, it is still out there.  I suppose everything going on is serving to make sure I do not forget how precious each day is.

    best to all--off to look for cheap airline tickets!

    jenn

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited May 2010
    Congrats to the great news MariannaHByou must be soooo relieved!
  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited May 2010

    Hello Ladies-

    It has been almost 6 months since my lumpectomy-7 weeks since I finished my rads. I have an appointment on June 4th for my first post treatment mammogram on my "bad" boob. I thought I was handling all this pretty well, but now I am really nervous. And the fact that I am not getting one on my "good" boob until December is a little nerve wracking.

    I was always a person who went and got my mammograms, got the results, and didn't think twice about them until the next year. I never found my lump myself-it showed up on a mammogram- and even when I knew where it was, I couldn't feel it.

    I guess I've just lost a little faith in my own body and my own instincts.

    On the positive side, I'm all healed from rads. Still just a little tan, though. I've been taking Tamoxifen for 7 weeks and so far, the only side effect I have is some hot flashes. They're not too bad but of course they come at the most inconvenient times!

    Mary 

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited May 2010

    Thanks for the cheers, ladies.

    3monstmama- I am glad you're going to schedule your appointments to get checked out. Even though it was very, very stressful leading up to the procedure, I can tell you that I feel 500% better knowing that we ruled out another disorder. I had mentally prepared (as best I could) for bad news, which is a slightly depressing way of living, but I did it to prep myself in case he told me the worst. Now I am concentrating on getting my mental health back, and maybe just living for awhile.

  • cabmom
    cabmom Member Posts: 388
    edited May 2010

    Congrats Marianna.....so happy for you!

  • AndreaS97057
    AndreaS97057 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2010

    Hi everyone.  I'm happy to hear that we're all healing physically from the radiaiton!  I have this weird achy feeling when I'm asleep and turn over - sort of like the tissue has "set up" and has to break up when I shift.. ick.  But otherwise colors are turning back to normal and BB feels OK.  

    In general, I've been so busy with all the catch-up work that sat and waited for me from my 5+ months of being totally absorbed in diagnosis/surgery/radiation.  Yes, life is back to normal - almost too much of normal.  And I'm starting to get concerned that I haven't had time to do any of the mental healing that needs to happen.  I wonder about the "transformation" that I thought would be happening in my life.. and just doesn't seem to be happening all by itself.

    I'm on another work trip and just finished up ~12 days of working all the time, everyday.  So I checked into a B&B that was a little on the spendy side, I feel like I deserve a little luxury .. turns out the owner has just had surgery for mouth cancer, and her friend who came to help run the B&B had uterine cancer 10+ years ago.  What is going on that makes 3 out of 3 people around a table get cancer at relatively young ages??  I guess the good news is that 50 years ago it wouldn't have been caught early and been treatable.

    I guess after working so intensly and blocking out all other aspects of my life, suddenly cancer is crashing back at me.. and I'm reminded that I really had it.  Really?, did that happen to me?

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited May 2010

    Andrea-

    I feel exactly the same way. I see you were diagnosed on 12/10/2009. I was diagnosed on 12/7/2009. I finished up my rads treatment almost 8 weeks ago and I too, am waiting for the meltdown, where I finally realize I had cancer. I talked this over with my oncologist, and he said it will probably hit me when I'm least expecting it. He also said I could call him any time of the day or night to talk to him about it-love this man!

    I also have the weird achy feeling on my rads side. I told my husband my ribs and muscles on that side feel tired. Not pain, really, just fatigued.

    I see that you live in Seattle! I live in Shoreline.

    Mary 

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited May 2010

    Andrea and Mary, I know how you feel.  I was so busy getting through chemo...then rads that I really didn't hit me until now. Now, it's kind of like..."wow...what was that all about?" I'm triple negative so I don't get a pill like Tamoxifen to take afterward so I feel kind of abandoned.  I just have to get used to the new normal and it might take a bit.  I'm also very tired. All this treatment has taken its toll on me and now I need to recoup and recover.

    Sherri 

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited May 2010

    AndreaS,

    Glad you took some time for a B&B. You deserve it. I keep meeting young people with cancer as well, and it strikes me that we're doing something dreadfully wrong in our production chain that is causing people to get ill.  I've done all I can to change my environment, but it's the environment at large, and it is a sad fact of life that we have to live with it.

    I hope you can get some of the emotional healing that is needed. I know it's hard. I am trying to process everything still, and though I don't think about it every minute of each day, I probably think of it every other minute. The worry will never leave me, I am certain of that.

     Take care, and hope you are getting some "down time" from work this weekend!

  • meg8000
    meg8000 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2010

    Hello fellow Rads gals!  I'm a little late to the party here - went through rads from 3/17 - 5/3, and chemo before that from 12/9 - 2/10.  I didn't post hardly at all through treatment - didn't even really read much either.  During chemo I was too tired and emotionally volatile, and during rads a little less so, but still more of the same.

    It's nice now to be coming out from under.  I guess that now I am trying to learn how to find the balance... eliminating as much stress as I can from my life, starting to try to get back into shape, and trying to figure out what kind of a role breast cancer is now going to play in my life.  From what I'm reading, it looks like I'm not alone, and that is nice to know. Nice to have some company here.  

  • Raili
    Raili Member Posts: 435
    edited May 2010

    Andrea, I hear ya!  One of my coworkers covered for me a lot while I was going through surgery, etc., and now is the time when it's my turn to return the favor and pick up a bit more work... trying to find my "new normal" is hard.  I'm seeing a therapist once a week and that's helping. 

    It's strange for me when people (acquaintances, mostly) see me and abruptly ask/say, "How are you feeling, you look great!  Glad you're through with everything now!" and then that's the end of it, like it's really that easy and everything's behind me.  Like I never had cancer at all.  Yesterday, one such acquaintance was chatting with me for a few minutes, and when we were talking about a mutual friend we hadn't seen in a while, she decided to call her.  She dials, and while it's ringing, looks at me and goes, "You feeling better now?  You look good!", and then turned back to her phone.  I just kinda nodded dumbly.  She didn't even give me time to reply.

  • Irishmom
    Irishmom Member Posts: 52
    edited May 2010

    HI girls - Hope everyone is doing well and enjoying the Memorial Day weekend.  I too am having the hardest time trying to find out the new normal.  I find that acquaintances don't even ask anymore.  I finished rads 4/28 and they were all able to move on including my familiy - my teemagers aren't given me any slack either.  Don't get me wrong, I don't want sympathy but I feel like - they have forgotten what I went thru the first 4 months of this year.  I have not returned to work and don't plan on it until after summer.  I find that my concentration levels are not there at all - anyone experiencing that??? Have been on Tamox for about 3 weeks, some insomnia - not every nite, some aches and pains.  I am walking 3 miles every day - overall have lost weight thru this but since Tamox - just maintained not lost anything.  My breast is looking more and more normal, the skin is getting better, the color is still off a bit.  Every once in a while - I get shooting pains that could double me over,but pass within a few seconds.  Doctor said its the nerve ending trying to heal.  I love the boards, thanks to all for listening. 

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited May 2010

    Irishmom - it's the same for me.  I find my concentration level is a lot lower than usual and I need to make lists or I'm forgetful. I'm off work now and my doctor wants me off until September to recoup.

    Sherri

  • Irishmom
    Irishmom Member Posts: 52
    edited May 2010

    Hi Sherri - I'm off for the summer too, I do payroll for over 125 employees and over 100 are hourly rates - so I need to be able to concentrate and I just don't have it.  I can't even read book - I get thru a magazine - but books I have trouble concentrating.  I didn't mention this earlier but I also stumble on my words - almost like I know the word in my head but it doesn't come out - I feel really helpless when this happens - its upsetting.  I wonder if its the Tamoxifen - I have heard other people say "chemo-brain" but I didn't have chemo - who knows - I;m lucky enough - I should quit complaining - thank God for these boards.  Hope your enjoying the weekend.

     Kathy

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited May 2010

    Kathy - I know eactly what you mean...I think it's a combination of chemo brain and fatigue for me. I am in communications & marketing so I also need to be able to concentrate, find the right words and manage multiple projects.  I need these few months to get back up to speed so I can give it my all in the fall.

  • kathylev
    kathylev Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2010

    Kathy, I get those same shooting pains, luckily they don't last too long, but they are unnerving, to say the least (pun intended).  I also find I have trouble concentrating on anything too long - forget reading a book.  I think our brains are on overload from all the physical and mental turmoil we've been through the last year.  I also do accounting and need to stay focused.  Kudos to you and Sherri for taking the summer off!  I can't take the summer off, but am working towards becoming a part timer.  Hope everyone is doing well.  Have a wonderful summer all!

    Kathy

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited May 2010

    Irishmom-

    I haven't had chemo either and my brain feels the same way. Hard to tell whether it's the rads or the Tamoxifen. I guess it really doesn't matter since rads are over, and I'm not planning on stopping the Tamoxifen.

    I work as a paraeducator with special education students. I really haven't taken much time off work, except for a couple of weeks for my lumpectomy, and an hour at the end of each day for my rads. I'm looking forward to the summer off so I can get some energy back. 

    Also, I live in the Seattle area and we have had some pretty dismal weather here lately, which hasn't helped my energy or alertness level one bit!

    Mary 

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited May 2010

    Hi All!

    For those of you suffering from "chemo brain" don't despair I'm here to tell you that it does get better. 

    Even if you didn't have chemo all the stress and worry of what we've been through/going through is enough to affect our concentration and make us all a bit fuzzy headed.

    We have to stop being so hard on ourselves and take the time to heal.  I remember someone telling me that this "journey" was going to take over a year.  At the time I didn't really absorb what she was saying but I'm coming up on my 1 year anniversary of dx (I think that there are quite a few of us that are!) and I'm still not "done".

    I don't think anyone could keep track of all the appts, medications, daily exercises, lotion applications etc associated with this BC tx without something else falling by the wayside.

    I finished chemo on Jan 19 and it's taken me until now to actually sit and read a book.  I took a Danielle Steele book with me when I flew 4 1/2 hrs this past long weekend (Canadian Victoria Day).  I purposely picked a "light" book that I could easily follow and read.  I actually finished it and started on another one!

    Besides being fuzzy I was having a terrible time with my eyes - my RX has changed and I finally got me some stronger reading glasses!

    So hang in there, take it easy and be good to yourself!

    Now if I could just get rid of this head cold....

  • jeanl151
    jeanl151 Member Posts: 146
    edited June 2010

    Hi girls,

       I started radiation in March, finished at the end of April.  Everything has healed but now I am finding my breast is very hard. The rad doc said it is fluid caused by rads in the area I had the lumpectomy .  He said because I had lymph nodes removed it's hard to drain.  He said it may take 6 months to go away!  

       Does anyone else have this? Is this a symptom of lymphademia?  Any ways to help the

    pain and swelling/

       thanks, Jean

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited June 2010

    Andrea, Irishmom, Raili and rest

    I'm in the same situation as the rest of you--trying to get back on track and feeling guilty when I do try to deal with the mental stuff.  I am still seeing the therapist every 3 weeks and I am going to the knitting cancer support group but I feel like a fraud.  There's a voice in my head that says  I'm not in zaps, I didn't have chemo, stop lollygagging and get back to work! 

    Physically, part of me feels just fine, part of me is tired, part of me is dealing with asthma.  Is the tired leftover from the plague 2 weeks ago or is it a Zap SEs?  Is the asthma a reaction to the cottonwood pollen [like last year] or a sign of lung damages from rads?  I don't know and part of me wants to pretend and not ask anyone.  Then again, who the heck do I ask?  Do I call my regular doctor and say "Asthma is here with the pollen," or do I call my Zap Doctor or is this something for the oncologist?  I haven't got a clue so I sit here sucking on my inhaler, wondering who to call.

    My husband left on Sunday for Europe.  His best friend has lung cancer, had a lung removed and will be starting chemo next week.  My husband won't be back for about 5 weeks.  It was a no-brainer that we would send him to help out the friend who is in a foreign country with no support system for himself and his wife.  My brain says "now THATS real cancer so what are you complaining about?"  Yet both one of my best friends and my therapist are quick to point out I had real cancer too and that I am entitled to just as much care and attention and time to heal as our friend in Switzerland.  Somehow, I just can't get my brain around that.

    I am sure we will all find our way eventually.  We just have to be patient with ourselves.

    have a good--and for some of us, short!--week,

    jenn

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited June 2010

    Jenn - I hear you!

    I had a head cold and now I chest congestion and coughing. 

    I have a follow up with my rad onc next Tuesday to check out my skin and lungs.

    I'm not worried about my skin it healed beautifully but my lungs???

    I'm having trouble breathing and I'm coughing a lot.  Is it this cold or is it from radiation?

    I remember in the beginning the rad onc telling me that if I had problems AFTER radiation ended with breathing that I was to call him immediately in case it was radiation neumonitis.  He said that he would treat with anti-inflammotories rather than antibiotics like a regular dr might.

    I'm hoping that my cough will be gone (if it's cold related) by the time I see him and that he will be able to have a good listen to my lungs.

    Have you had your rad onc follow up?  If not, it might be worth a call to him and have your lungs checked out.

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited June 2010

    3montsmama and MarieK so hard not to worry when you know that the SE listed are real and you wonder and wait is that going to happen to me?  Just a few days ago I thought I was suffering from a rad SE in my left arm.  I could not for the life of me lift my arm over my head without real sharp pains and it stayed with me all night and I was just a tad sore the next day.  I thought okay is this a pull or is this a SE from rads.  Who the heck is going to be able to tell me am I crazy and over thinking this or is this for real?  I have never been a hypochondriac ever, but now lately I wonder TOO many things.......Jenn what a wonderful husband you have to be there for his best friend, that really touches me, you are one very lucky lady!  Please hang in there and keep us all posted.

    I am nervous as I have my 1st mammo since all this hell began next Wednesday......gosh, I am already wondering how I am going to make it through that and will I be sore?  So friends please say a prayer that all is clear and I can move on to the next phase of my life.....take care and will talk soon, June.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited June 2010

    June-I have my first mammo this Friday. I have to admit, I'm a little nervous and my boob is still sore from rads so I don't think it will be a real comfortable experience.

    Prayers for the all clear for you and me both!

    Mary 

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited June 2010

    I was told I've have a mammogram six months after the finish of rads.  Maybe they wait longer here in Canada?

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited June 2010

    Maybe, Sugar. I am having my mammogram, on the affected breast only, 6 months after my surgery. I will be having a mammogram on both breasts in December. I'm not sure of the schedule after that.

  • Irishmom
    Irishmom Member Posts: 52
    edited June 2010

    I was told that I will stick to my regular schedule, I always went yearly in December.  My next mamo is scheduled for December 2010 - my doctor told me that unless there is a reason, I will stick to yearly screenings.  I recently felt something in my left breast - but thank God it was only a cyst, it actually is still there but unless it gets bigger I was told to leave it alone.  Hope everyone is having a good week.  Kathy xoxoxo

  • Raili
    Raili Member Posts: 435
    edited June 2010

    "Who the heck is going to be able to tell me am I crazy and over thinking this or is this for real? I have never been a hypochondriac ever, but now lately I wonder TOO many things......."


    June, I totally relate to this!!! I've always been probably the opposite of a hypochondriac - so laid back about it all. For years, I've been so healthy that I haven't even bothered with things like routine physicals or gyn exams, because I was just so sure that I was in perfect health. I went for a physical "on a whim" last fall because I hadn't gone in years, and it turns out my primary care provider had RETIRED, it had been so long... so they scheduled me with some random nurse practitioner... and BOOM, she found the lump. Which I was completely flabbergasted to find out was cancer. It took me about a month to even get the recommended ultrasound to check it out, because I was sooooo "sure" it was "nothing." The radiologist and breast surgeon (during ultrasound and biopsy) both told me they were "99% sure" it was benign.

    So, that really changed everything for me. It's scary to know that I was in "excellent health" but actually had a freakin CANCEROUS TUMOR in me that I could not detect in any way, despite this being very, very, very unlikely. I think it has made me lose a bit of trust in my body and my own perception of its health. And yes, I worry about my newfound hypochondriac tendencies. :( For example - every couple of days since approximately the last week of radiation, I've felt a sharp-but-brief pain in my upper rib-cage, directly below my right breast (which was NOT the irradiated breast, for whatever that's worth!!) And I have this argument with myself - should I even bother to tell the rad. onc. about this at my check-up? Am I going to sound like a worrywort over nothing? What if it's just something stupid like gas, or a sore muscle from the pull-ups I've been doing? If I tell my med. onc. or rad. onc. about it, are they going to brush it off, or make me get a gazillion anxiety-producing scans?! I don't have a good sense of how "severe" a symptom "should" be before I tell a doctor about it. So for now, I'm just keeping a log of when I feel this pain, so I can at least see if it's increasing or decreasing, becoming weaker or stronger, etc.

    Jenn, I'm sorry about your asthma! :( I'm not sure which doctor is the "right" one to call, but I guess that would be a good question to ask your oncologist. Do you have any appointments scheduled soon with either oncologist? My instinct would be to go to your regular doctor for anything that's clearly unrelated to cancer or cancer treatments, but if you're experiencing something that's at all similar to a known, possible SE of a cancer treatment, call that cancer doctor. And the cancer doctor might still say, go see your regular doctor, but that's okay. The thing for me is, before cancer, I was so healthy that I barely saw my regular physician anyway - I had no need to. I have no relationship/history with her, she doesn't really know me. Whereas all these cancer doctors I've been seeing for the past 6 months really know me a little TOO well now, hmph. Once, the phone rang, and when I picked it up, the voice said, "Hi, Raili?" and I cheerfully said, "Heeyy!" in recognition. My surgeon started laughing and said, "You know who I am?!", and we joked about how we've definitely been talking too much if she doesn't even have to say her name when she calls me. Luckily, I really like my surgeon, but that's SAD, to have a health issue that's such a big deal that you wind up having such familiarity with a doctor.

    Anyway, my point is that right now, I'd much prefer to have my oncologist be my "starting point" for any health issues that arise for me, because she KNOWS me and my body and its history. I have a visit with her in 2 days (to start Tamoxifen :( ), so maybe I'll ask her about this - the extent to which she becomes my "primary doctor," and which of my health concerns are ones I should go to her for, vs. another doctor.

    I think it's interesting that a month or more after radiation ended for many of us, we're still here posting up a storm - maybe even more than we were DURING radiation! There are so many unanswered questions, and so much that we now have to navigate on our own, because the clearly-charted course is over. Radiation staff's no longer at the helm - WE are. During radiation, I got kind of annoyed at having to meet with the rad. onc. every single Wed and have my breast, BP, weight, pulse, and temperature checked. It was a hassle. But now I'm feeling like, hey, wait, doesn't anyone want to know what my blood pressure is THIS week? LOL! Check-ups are done (or rather, REALLY spaced out) because I'm assumed to be fine, and really this is a GOOD thing... but it's still weird.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited June 2010

    hi all.  Raili, I was like you---rarely saw doctor other than my kids pediatrician.  Then I go through this and when Zaps are over, I actually found I missed all those zap people and spent part of my therapy knitting time running around Zapland saying hi---how wierd is THAT?

    I forgot all about the possibiity of post radiation breathing issues and contacting the zapteam.  Damn!  I would think I would feel worse if it was a 'zapish thing" versus a cold and cottonwood pollen but honestly, who the heck knows?  I felt perfectly fine BEFORE my diagnois.  I do have an appointment with the oncologist tomorrow afternoon---its a make-up appointment about the tamoxifen.  I couldn't possibly see a doctor today [must get home to monsters] so that will have to do.  I also see the Zap doctor on Monday and maybe I will call the nurse tomorrow or something.

    Part of the problem is that I don't have all my zap doctor stuff with me--no appointments so I started leaving everything at home......Oh by the way, my first mammogram is in August roughly 6 months post surgery.  and for some period of time after that it will be 2x a year.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited June 2010

    Hello ladies,

    We're in the in-between land now, aren't we? I was like the rest of you-- I only worried about my kids' health before this time, and now I find that I notice every little, tiny "potential symptom".  I am super relieved that I finally took care of my IBS issues, but even the GI doc was surprised when I told him it had gone on for FIVE YEARS before I contacted him. He really made me nervous when he started talking about cancer of the GI tract. My breast surgeon is leaving the practice, so my main point of contact is gone, but she has handed me off to the other surgeon in her practice. She's my main doctor now and I don't even know her.

    As for me? Well, I've been keeping busy with work and home life. I still live with the fear every day, but I am coping in various ways. I've started bicycling, as I have a girlfriend who has decided we need to do the Tour de Pink in Hershey, PA next October. So, early morning yoga classes and rides have been distracting me from ruminating on health.  I am hoping to learn to meditate, something I need to make time for in my life. I hear it's good for us cancer-free patients. We are cancer-free, aren't we? I think we talked about what to call ourselves, and survivor might be the label.

    I have no inclinations to go near the radiation unit, though the staff was superb there. I don't miss the daily appointment, mainly because I always had cancer and worry on my mind there.  I keep envisioning that cancer was a definite period in my life, and that I should be able to close the door on it and move onwards. I have attempted to do so, but it will always be lurking in my mind, somewhere.

     3monst, Railli and June-- Sorry to hear abou the discomfort post-radiation. At least you can ask them about it. I hope it's seasonal allergies, rather than any radiation effects.June, I hope your mammo goes smoothly with no hiccups. I really detest mammograms, since my first mammo yielded my results!!! I guess I should be grateful I went when I did.  Ladies, thanks for your posts and sharing your thoughts. I don't feel so lost in the maze of breast cancer with you ladies!

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