March 2010 Chemo Start
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Thank you Suzanne E. Are you aware of any long-term risks of Taxol? Cardiotoxicity, that kind of thing?
Lisa
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I had my first of 12 rounds of taxol yesterday and last night (six hours later) I was at dinner with my 8 year old for her birthday! I was easy, I have had very no SEs so far, well none from the actual drug at least...I do a fine job of cause myself nausea just by thinking of and smelling my treatment facility! The only problem I did have last night was from the steroids, I was exhausted but my legs had a different idea. I have a feeling that the next 11 weeks are going to be long but fairly easy, thank God! I am hoping that my hair continues to grow, it would be nice to have a little fuzz on this melon of mine. Good luck to all of you still trudging through chemo...we will get to the end of the dark tunnel, it's just going to take us a little longer! xoxo, Angi
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llm882: The ONLY long term side affect my Onc. ever told me about and he said it was rare, was nerve damage to the fingers and toes. He said it almost ALL cases the numbness and tingly feeling in the fingers and toes goes away. Mine did within a month of ending my Taxol. Good Luck to you!!!!
Suzanne E.
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Proud of wife.
We went to the "chemo chamber" today for her weekly Herceptin infusion and before the session started Carolyn told the nurse that she was not going to take the ESA type shot. At first they looked surprised but soon discovered that her choice was based on good science. Carolyn works for a Pharmaceutical firm as a research scientist and as soon as we found out that they wanted to give her the shot to increase her RBC we started to investigate. What she discovered was that in her case the benefits did not outweigh the risks of this drug.
Bottom line, this is your body, your life and you should be an active participant in the treatment. Her choice was not based on anything emotional, but on research and consultations with others familiar with ONC drugs/treatments.
Bottom, Bottom line.......When in doubt ask around and use good sources.
Next week Big Chemo day = TCH
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Dear Undecided8;
Thx for your words of truth and encouragement. I suppose it is the unknown right now that is getting to me. I hope and pray that all of us who are about to embark on Taxol have an experience similar to yours.
mamaof3bugs; Glad to hear your first Taxol went well. I've had a number of friends tell me that their hair started to grow back during Taxol. Good luck.
Heather
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One week and one day after last TC treatment and I finally feel good. I think "wider and shallow" is accurate. Also, this is the first day that I have found myself feeling actually happy that there are no more chemo treatments. I think I am really healing.....physically and emotionally. I know it's only one day, but it feels good!
It is such a journey through this cancer. Only people that have gone through it would understand. We are a strong group and stronger even because of each other.
Wishing everyone a wonderful Memorial Day weekend with few side effects and an even better next week.
With love,
Linda aka LillyC
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Hi everybody. I haven't been around much for the past few weeks -- took me a while to catch up on all the news. Congrats to all of you who have finished up already or will be finished soon!
And I'm so sorry to hear about all the terrible times some of you have had to go through. Heaven knows this stuff is horrible enough when it goes well. Nobody needs any extra challenges.
After round 2 (TCH) my white count went pretty low, so I had to start Neulasta after round 3. I didn't have bone pain too bad, just a little around day 6. The fatigue after round 3 was horrible, though. I expected more of the same with round 4, but it hasn't been that bad this time. Go figure. I think I'm going to swear off expectations from here on out -- too unreliable.
Two more rounds of TCH for me, and I can hardly wait to be finished with all this!
Charley -- Your life sounds a lot like mine. I was 11 when my mother died. It was in the early 70's. She was diagnosed when I was about 6, so a lot of my childhood memories are of visiting her in the hospital and her going through treatments. Your mention of Cobalt triggered a flashback for me. LOL My sisters were in their teens at the time, so they remember a lot more than I do. Like you, I spend a lot of time thinking about what she had to go through compared to the treatments available to us now. And like you, I also have an aunt who had breast cancer and survived it. I think hers was around the time my mother died. She's 85 now and one of my biggest inspirations.
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Hi all,
4 days after first taxotere, and everything is OK - tummy a little unsure of whetehr it wants to be busy, or just wants to hang out, or maybe could do with some more rice pudding. And other than that, my head is heaps better compared to the FEC, so it wasn't just the steroids making my head bonkers.
My hair is starting to grow a bit too, just a little fluffy lengthening around the front and top - the back and sides are soft as a babies botttom. I'm hoping my leg hair, and upper lip hair decide they want to stay quiet like, maybe, forever.
Hugs to all, have a lovely week-end,
Lisa
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the shot for the WBC really just kicks my butt. this is the second time i've had to call into work the day after i get it. i'm really glad that monday is a holiday. i'll be able to just rest and try and get past the SE's and be ready to get going again on tuesday.
hope everyone has a super weekend. :-)
~M
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CarolSue - Wow .. Yes, I think we are more alike than you know. My mother passed away when I was 10 ... diagnosed at StageIV when I was 5. Amazingly she survived for 5 years ... traveling to Houston (MDAnderson) and trying numerous crazy treatments before she finally passed away. My brother and I recently reminisced about the "sugar diet" she was on at one time. As kids we thought what a great thing to get to eat candy bars every day! I think now about the "hell" she must have gone through and how scared she must have been. Being a kid, it was difficult to appreciate what is really happening. My mother's older sister, the one I mentioned in my post, was diagnosed with BC a few months before my mother passed away. I speak to her frequently and I now understand so much of what I didn't as a child. Since that time, my mother's younger sister and now three of my cousins have also been diagnosed with BC. But they have all survived and are now living disease-free lives! Their stories and support are what give me hope that I too, will be among the ranks of survivors!
To those of you with WATERY EYES - I went to the eye dr. today and had my tear ducts irrigated and also dilated. The dr. also gave me an eye drop designed to decrease tear production since he felt my eyes were producing excess tears. The whole process was not fun but wasn't too painful either ... maybe uncomfortable though. I made an appt in 2 weeks for follow up in case my tear ducts "stenose" again since I am only a little over 1 week away from my last treatment of TC. I feel tons better now that I am not dabbing my eyes every 30 seconds!
For those of you having SEs, hang in there!
Hugs, Charley
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Lilly - I'm so happy for you. I can't wait until that magic day after my last treatment when I actually start to feel "good".
Carol Sue - I just told my neighbor that I've given up on expectations. They do me in every time.
I'm supposed to be in the middle of my "good weeks" right now, but I am SOOOOOOO tired. I thought I had turned the corner a few days back, but I can't seem to completely rally. My nurse told me that it is right about now (between #4 and #6) that the cumulative effect starts kicking in and that this might be the new norm for me. At least I can see the end in sight. I still have 2 more to go, but I can manage that. I just have to keep my spirits ups.
I also have some lymphedema going on - slight swelling, not too bad, but worrisome. My physical therapist is paranoid because I just had a blood clot in my "good arm". She doesn't want me to use a pump or a sleeve until my blood levels are stable - they aren't
I know I sound like I'm on the cranky train, but I'm really OK, just tired. I have a quiet weekend planned.
Almost forgot my BIG news - I spent half the day yesterday bald as a baby's butt! I went to my doctors, spent some time in my office, took my daughter to her pediatrician, went to the diner for dinner, and went to the MALL - all without my wig or my scarves. I had really been wanting to do it, so I started with my doctor's visit and just went on from there. I had mixed feelings, but mostly l felt liberated and bold. I am not a very courageous person and somehow being bald gives me courage. Anyway, it was really almost a non-event. The vast majority of people either didn't notice, or didn't show it in any way. As for the rest I got a lot of smiles and a some second looks. The only comment came from a 4 or 5 year-old who said - Hey mom, that person is a girl (I guess surprised that a girl would be bald).
Have a great weekend everyone. Hugs to all. Marilyn
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Update 6 days after 4th chemo - Just wanted to check in and let everybody know that I am doing well 6 days after my last treatment. As many of you had said this treatment was slightly easier to deal with than #3. I was pretty tired on day #3 but wasn't bedridden like last time but instead laid around on the couch so it felt like an improvement. My onc was out of the office so i saw her partner and he had me start taking 2 different anit-nausea drugs on an alternating schedule. I took Zofran and compazine on top of the emend for the first 3 days and the nausea was much better. I recommend if anybody is having problems ask about this combination because it did make a difference for me.
I hope everybody has a good side effect free weekend and I know I have said this before but to all of you who are now done with chemo congratulations and thanks for sticking around to see the rest of us through.
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Marilyn, sorry your fatigue is getting worse. I just had my last treatment (only had to have 4) 2 days ago. I had noticed the fatigue had NOT gone away right before my last treatment, unlike it had before. My doc and the nurses told me it can get worse after the 4th, and that it is going to take months (up to a year) to fully recover from the chemo. I am not worried though, I am SO grateful to be done, and the recovery will be gradual but it will be happening so that is good. I just need to get through the next couple weeks, they will be the toughest! Congrats on going out "topless"! I am about to do that too I think.
And congrats lorrhaw and everyone else who has finished!
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Had my fourth (last) treatment on Tuesday. Tuesday night I got extremely sick (two days "early" and ended up spending Tuesday thru Thursday night in the hospital on fluids and anti-nause meds. . I was SO glad to get home even though I wasn't totally nausea--free but I have gone almost twelve hours without being sick so I have high hopes.
All in all, it could have been worse and I"m glad it's over. I am exhausted and hope to have a "normal" day soon (if I can remember what those are like..
Next step: radiation ...
Good luck to eveyone .....
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It's great to hear of more of us getting through to the other side of this. I'm finding my loss of normal taste a bit troubling , to say the least, with the taxotere.Even water is vaguely unpleasant. I've tried ginger drinks- meh. Chocolate mint biscuits taste normal (yum) - they're about all- and some veges weirdly - loving my broccoli and beans. Freaky stuff this chemo. I have also developed an acute bionic smell (thanks Charley for that term), and there has been ALOT of cleaning going on around my house, no odours allowed.
I'm currently baking fresh wholemeal bread to go with my minestrone soup - am wondering if the spooky Martha Stewart character I've channelled is going to disappear when the chemo has finished. I am not yet wearing an apron. I think perhaps I might like a little less rush, rush rush, and a little more domestic bliss.
care to you all, congrats on all finishing - we'll be with you soon,
Lisa
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Horsedoc - congrats on finishing! It does feel good! It has been a slow but steady process of feeling better ... just a little everyday. I have to remind myself it's only been a week and a half since my last treatment because I am mentally wanting to conquer the world and I am just dragging my poor body along. I did too much during the day yesterday and then spent the whole evening exhausted and sick to my tummy. I am going to be more careful today ...
Way to go Marilyn! I don't have the guts to do that yet ... I'm doing good to wear my scarves walking around my neighborhood. My head has a big bump on the back of it ... it has been there for years (at least 20+) and supposedly nothing to be concerned about, but I feel it makes me look like a dork!
Lisa - I wish this process had made me a Martha Stewart ... unfortunately I go out to eat more than ever. Once I start feeling better maybe I will get back in the kitchen. My wallet is hurting!
Hope everyone is having a good weekend ... or at least tolerable!
Hugs, Charley
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charley, I know what you mean, being mentally ready to conquer the world now and your body not agreeing!
You'd think I'd have this figured out by now, but I'm having such a hard time finding something to drink that tastes ok. My tastes are so messed up, like most of you guys too. I think I will feel better if I can keep myself really hydrated to flush out the chemo but stuff is just gross, ugh. Right now I'm doing ok with some strong Crystal Light. Water, no. I have some lemonade but it tastes funny today. It's almost like I need something with a strong taste to it to overpower the metal taste in my mouth.
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I hate the metal mouth. It definitely makes it hard to get down any kind of fluid -- water is nasty. Still trying to find the right mix. And every chemo it seems to be different. Day 5 today and I'm feeling the yucks. Glad tomorrow is a holiday and I can continue to recuperate. Only one more!
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this is day 4 out from #4 treatment. still on my couch and not up to doing much of anything. it's amazing how i can sit on my couch and feel okay (ok ok minus the aches and pains) but when i get up to walk around, even to the bathroom, i start to feel like crud again. i too am grateful for the extra day on monday for not having to go to work.
i've discovered something interesting - the little bits of fuzz and stubble on my head are beginning to fall out now. gee and they hung on for so long, too. ah well. i'm hoping that by september (my birthday) it'll start growing back. that is if this treatment stays on schedule with no more set backs.
hope everyone has a good day.
~M
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I've been craving orange sherbet push ups, eggs, cereal, and strawberries. Did I say craving? I should have said that is all I'm eating ... for weeks it seems ...
Today, I ran across a lemonade maker that I had bought years ago and I'm going to try that since I can't seem to stomach much of any type of drink and maybe the lemons will get past that ..
Thank goodness for cancer insurance - it has allowed me to stay home during all of this. My hat (scarf) off to you guys - I don't know that I could do it.
Good day to all ..
Elen
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Hey all - just wanted to pop in and say FYI - I've taken a new screen name to reflect where I live (Wisconsin) not when I had breast cancer surgery (Groundhog Day).
I'm walking 5k (3 mi) Komen RFC in Madison this Sat, there are nearly 10,000 people signed up, wow my first one. Will think of you all when I'm with the other survivors for the survivor's photo.
All I can drink these days is Bigelow's Constant Comment decaf tea. It's flavored with rind of oranges and sweet spice, and tastes good iced. Also my grocery store has Luigi's Real Italian Ice (lemon ice) in the frozen treats section and that's very tasty & cooling.
Five tx's down one to go - June 15 s/b the last. Hope you're all doing well today! {{hugs}}
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Hi all, Badger I like your new screen name. Day 8 today and coffee is tasting great - yahoo. It's been interesting comparing effects between FEC and taxotere because other than a higher steroid dose, everything else in treatment is the same. I've had much more aching joints with the tax. and thats with taking the recommended claratyne, and anti-inflammatory pain killer. So I'm thinking that taxanes really get into and cause a reaction in bones - well good. I'm back to thinking about the SE's as being an indicator of chemo kick assedness. My guts have been less happy - good. My head is clearer -mmm, not sure how to feel about that but I am enjoying not being such a numbskull. I'm going into the office today to turn on my computer and download some data for my research project - time to get the grey matter ticking over. I have been working on a renovation project at home in between treatments - and the house has been half re-buiilt with new weatherboards along one side, and just waiting for the painters to arrive. I think my next project will be my head - I want to try and plan for the next phase of the rollercoaster where the peaks and troughs may not be so deep but they're there. Just negotiating the options of what is and is not available to us can be a bit overwhelming. Hope all who are coming down from chemo are enjoying each day, and anyone with side effects, they're shortlived.
Lisa
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Hello Marchers!
Finally feeling normal after my last Tx, just in time for blood work tomorrow and the big discussion with Onc about Tamoxifin. Wednesday is my consult with the rads onc...I'll be sure to fill you all in with what happens. I'm hoping to find a BC nutritionist..apparently soy is a no no along with some other things. I went to the store today and made sure to by organic milk, chicken, beef, fruit etc.........Apparently the "new normal" is in full effect. I have read lot of the posts on nutrition in other sections of this website, seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there...I wish I knew what is right and what is wrong.
I hope everyone was able to enjoy your holiday without too many side effects. Hugs to you all.
Ana
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Hi all,
Wow, a lot happens when you don't get on the boards for a few days! I had my LAST TC chemo last Thursday--what an emotional rollercoaster between the joy that I will never have to feel this way again, and the fear that maybe I will have to feel this way again...make any sense?
Spent the weekend asleep, basically. I almost made it out of taxotere land without the neuropathy, but I noticed a little numbness in hands and feet a few weeks ago, and now my feet are miserable little things that won't let me sleep. My bones feel like hot electric shocks or something. Also keeping me from walking, I've had two falls and many wobbly moments. Any suggestions on how to keep active while wobbly?
I also feel depressed. I think I mentioned before that I do better in battle mode, in the moment. I just feel kind of lost now. I don't know when/where/who my rads are happening and can't seem to care enough to call. Gah hate this helpless foggy feeling.
It is wonderful, though, to see all the progress many of you are making. I'm so lucky to have this group.
Hugs to all
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Teemee, I know just how you feel. I felt that way right after my last TC treatment two weeks ago. I'm sure that the fear of the unknown will surface again, but for now I have come to peace with that (through Phillipians 4:7) and am just so grateful to have made it through the chemo. I still have tremendous shortness of breath, little energy, and neuropathy in the finger tips of my right hand. I'm hoping all of this will pass and not remain as "the new normal". I see my oncologist on Thursday and radiologist next Wednesday. I'll report back after my appointment on Thursday.
Love to all,
Linda aka LillyC
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Teemee, I'm sending you a big hug. Are you talking to your oncologist or primary care doctor about these different things you're going through? Don't forget that you have been in a battle, and now your body/mind is in the first take a big breath stage. Imagine you'd just run a 400metre race, or you'd just been chased by a big lion, and you've only just jumped over the fence but can see it on the other side. Your first job was to outrun the lion, which was difficult and scary, now you've made it over the fence, and need to get further away. The adrenaline is still settling, you're a bit wiped out from the exertion. You were just walking along minding your own business, when stupid bloody cancer came along and very suddenly changed everything. You're only just getting through treatment, and you've got some side effects that are troubling you. Give youself some time to take some big breaths in, and let yourself heal a bit. When you've got your breath then you can call about the rads. And see if you can get one of your doctors to help with the pain/electric shocks you're having in your bones, that must be tiring you out too. And Lilly, I hope your breathlessness and energy start improving soon. Looking forward to the day when we no longer think about lions, but about sipping dacquiris around an island lagoon.
hope the lion analogy wasn't too stupid, love to all my March sisters,
Lisa
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Thank you Lisa & LillyC for the kind words. And for the record, I loved the lion analogy.
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Lisa: Love the lion analogy. Excellent.
I haven't been writing lately, but I have been lurking nightly. I am now 4 weeks out from last TC and feeling anxious. Like others have been saying, I'm sooo glad to be done with chemo, but it feels scary to be done. Make sense?
Anyone else planning on taking Arimidex? I'm starting on it this Friday and having read a lot of the Arimidex threads, I'm worried about side effects. For a change, more side effects! Also, gearing up for my "exchange" surgery later this month. Anyone else exchanging soon?
Hope you feel better teemee and to the rest of the Marchers, I send warm and good thoughts.
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Morning ladies!
Had my appt with the onc yesterday for blood work, the tamoxifin discussion and Soy questions. Blood levels were a little low, but not a big concern. Tamoxifin sounds like 5 years of hot flashes, mood swings and other side effects....ugh, I was hoping I was done with side effects
. As for the soy, I wasn't real impressed with his answer but here is what he said..."we definitely don't want to add foods that act like estrogen in the body, but the studies they are doing on soy are preliminary, just limit your soy intake". So, I will be seeking info from a nutritionist since his answer seemed a little wishy washy. Has anyone else had the soy discussion?
Today is my consult with the rad onc...more info to come.
I pray you all are doing well this morning with limited side effects!
Ana
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Hello Ladies,
Sorry haven't posted lately, I have been keeping up with the board. Congrats to all who are finished and onto their next adventure and those who are not hang in there you'll be done before you know it.
I've had a hard time these last few weeks, last cocktail 4 weeks ago and things aren't right. Been back to the onc dr and also my regular dr. My feet, ankles and legs blew up like balloons so much so that I had pain walking. Been taking 80mg of Lasix to help rid me of it. Started rads on the 24 and for those of you who are going to be starting be aware that the fatigue catches up to you. I was fine the first week but this week I am wiped. They tell me it's a combination of the accumulative chem weeks and now rads.
I continue to pray for all my fellow marchers. My best to all - Stacey
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