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  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited May 2010

    CinCan, here's a thread from the Lymphedema forum about a way to work a tight ring off your finger. Before you try it, though, try elevating your arm for an hour or so -- on the back of the couch while you're watching TV, for instance. Drink plenty of water (to dilute the lymph fluid so it flows readily) and take some deep abdominal breaths (stimulates the lymph system). If that doesn't work try the "string method on this thread:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/64/topic/345963?page=1#post_1309943

    And here is another thread that's pinned at the top of the Lymphedema forum that has pictures of arms and hands with descriptions of how to identify the swelling of lymphedema (but keep in mind that the heaviness and aching of lymphedema usually comes before any swelling is visible). 

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/64/topic/751566?page=1

    And finally, there's information about reducing your risk of lymphedema here:

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm

    Early treatment of lymphedema means getting it under control more quickly, reducing risk of serious infection, and easier on-going control, so if you suspect lymphedema get a prompt referral for evaluation by a well-qualified lymphedema therapist from any member of your medical team

    Hope some of that helps! Be well,
    Binney

  • jarlwin
    jarlwin Member Posts: 22
    edited May 2010

    Thank you for making me alert to something I have been ignoring for over a month.  Besides my lumpectomy side swelling, I have not been paying attention to the left side that I had a mastectomy on 9 years ago-thinking that it couldn't be swelling and tingling 9 years later.  Now after looking at your site recommendation, I know that isn't true and I know I need to seek help.  Thank you.

  • sweatyspice
    sweatyspice Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2010

    Back from my perfect weekend away, and into real life again.  : (

    Suepen, I'm finally getting under the breast problems.  My whole breast was surgically altered, so my fold isn't really normal anymore, it's quite severe.  There's chest wall and then there's floppy breast, it's not like it's gradual in any way - like it used to be.  Anyway, the crease itself (which as I said is a pretty severe crease compared to how it used to be) is now getting really itchy and painful.  And the parts of my skin which had the most serious redness are getting slightly better, in that the itchy bumps are getting better, but the skin itself has the texture of crepe paper.  I hope this heals, but I'm not so sure it's going to.

    Of course, the whole thing still looks like I was scorched with a big square iron.  Which I guess I was.

    Anyone else who's finished got weird skin stuff going on?

    It was lovely to sleep late this morning!!! 

  • CinCan
    CinCan Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    Binney - Thank you so much for all the info..... I have lots of reading to do on Lymphedema.  I drank tons of water and slept (well tried to sleep) with my arm up all night.  Showered at 11am (as my fingers didn't look as swollen as when I woke up), lathered up my finger with oily soap and was able to get my ring off. :-)  I see my Rad Onc today since I start my boosts tomorrow and will ask her to check out my arm.

    Jarlwin - I am interested to hear what you find out about your situation. 

    Suepen - I hope your back is back to normal.  I had my Bone Scan done on Friday (it was postponed due to a shortage of the Nuclear Medicine) so I don't have the results yet.  I'm also scheduled for a Muga Scan on Thursday, but may be postponed to this Sunday, because they are having a delivery of Medicine on Sunday....wierd:-S


  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2010

    CinCan: I'm sure the results will be good. Fingers crossed. Just read a post about post chemo arthralgia - google it - looks like it's worth reading about and will explain our aches and pains.

    SweatySpice: Glad you had a great weekend. My skin in the crease is almost healed already. I bought some medi honey wound gel and have used that for the past 3 days. The worst bit was where I tore off the skin with the tape and that's healing up quickly now. I swtiched to the medi honey because there was a little bit of blood coming off that spot when I bathed it and I didn't want it to get infected.

    The rest of the boob is still fine and I'm still applying the Vit E cream. I never got any itchy bumps like you did. The skin is really soft. The zinc and castor oil cream may have helped under the boob too. I also used that for 3 days.

    The radiation nurse said the zinc is very healing and they find it results in quicker healing. Can you try some of that? They use it for nappy rash. Also I have a non stick dressing under there in the fold 24 hours a day which also protects the area and prevents the skin on skin rubbing.

    Sue

  • kmid
    kmid Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2010

    Aloha, all!

    My rad onc and nurse said stay out of salt water and chlorine water during radiation and at least a month afterwards.  Something about possible infection, etc. Then yesterday the med onc said fine to go swimming! Such contradictory info.  He also said arimidex and tamox. are the same-just drug co. wants to make more $! Again-confusing!

    Has anyone noticed their thinking slowing down during the treatment? I love to read and haven't been able to finish a book.  I feel like my brain is wrapped with cotton or something. Hope this passes. I get so mentally fatigued as well as physically tired. Took 1st Arimidez today.

  • kmid
    kmid Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2010

    REALLY tired!  Arimidex.

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited May 2010

    Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor.  Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator.  They are not the same.  Usually if you are premenopausal, or were before you started chemotherapy, you get tamoxifen, then switch to an aromatase inhibitor.  If you're postmenopausal, you go straight to the latter.  That's my understanding, anyway....I don't think your med onc explained it very well if he said they're the same, although they're both prescribed for patients with ER+ cancers.

  • Kathy044
    Kathy044 Member Posts: 433
    edited May 2010

    I had my last RAD tx today -- yah! So far my skin is holding up really well, only a little pink, but the effects will not peak for another week I've been told. I used Glaxal Base Lotion and recommend it.  I refused tx to the regional node areas (due to risk of lymphedema) and that may have made a difference. (I only had one positive node and had just finished chemo so thought that was enough).

    As for the above discussion, It's my understanding that Arimidex worked only marginally better in studies than Tamoxifen for ER+ post menopause women, so it's not a great deal to select one over the other if cost or potential side effects are factors.

    I will be seeing my med onc tomorrow to see what hormone therapy I'll be taking -- Arimidex has been suggested, but whether or not I'll go through with it will depend on the results of the bone density test I had last week. I don't really want to take drug on top of drug unless I really have to, even though Armidex will be covered at no cost in my province.

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited May 2010

    DONE DONE DONE DONE DONE!!

    I still have to use burn cream and heal (quite a bit of peeling in the skin-on-skin area under my arm).  Still, DONE!! 

  • sweatyspice
    sweatyspice Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2010

    CONGRATS to Kathy044 and hopbird!!!!!!

    And also to anyone who has finished who I may have missed....

    I'm now peeling in the crease below the breast.  The swelling seems to be gone, I wonder how much I'll eventually deflate...  And, I noticed yesterday that I seem to have a much more normal/higher energy level.  

    I've been struggling through a book since the beginning of rads.  I was finally able to read it at a more "normal" pace.  Which is good, because the library is VERY angry with me. 

  • dsj
    dsj Member Posts: 277
    edited May 2010

    congrats hopbird!

     Sweaty spice, I have had some tingly feeling and redness--about a week after I stopped.  I wore a scratchy tee-shirt the other day and it was really irritated.  also a kind of crepe paper feel; apt analogy.  My 25 (or so) itchy bumps are starting to disappear.  My oncologist looked last week and said I hadn't gotten much radiation toxicity, which was good to hear.  But I guess I got some. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2010

    Hooray 2 more done!!!

    SweatySpice: My boob is deflating too. It was like yours a bit swollen and hard during the treatment.

    Sue

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited May 2010

    sweatyspice - you're not alone in the angry library dilemma.  Actually mine was not all that angry, just very, very disappointed.  They made me settle my fines before I could check out or renew anything.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2010

    I've been staying away from the library and just buying books at the moment. During chemo, I couldn't concentrate and a book took ages to read, when I normally polish them off in 1 or 2 days. During rads it was much easier to keep up the pace but I still haven't ventured back to the library where I normally take out 10 or more books a fortnight. That's something I could do today.

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited May 2010

    I've had lots of trouble concentrating on books since my diagnosis - why's that, do you suppose?  But I would recommend The Help, but Kathryn Stockett.  It's been popular with book clubs, and I whizzed right through it.  It actually made me forget my own troubles for awhile.

  • CinCan
    CinCan Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    MNLinda - I loved the book 'The Help'...I whizzed right through it too.  My sons gave me a Kindle from Amazon after I was diagnosed with BC.  It has been the best thing for me... I've downloaded and read so many books:)  It's great not having to go to the book store or library, especially when you aren't feel well.  I take my Kindle with me to all my appointments and treatments.  After watching OPRAH yesterday with Julia Roberts and Elizabeth Gilbert (author of Eat, Pray, Love), I downloaded her book...I want to read it before I see the movie.  I absolutely love my Kindle!!!

    Back to RADS.... I had my first boost today and the area on my boob that is being treated with the boost is hurting, throbbing actually.  Wondering if this is normal...

  • Suse64
    Suse64 Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2010

    I finished treatments last Monday, and yes CinCan, my boost area was very red, still is, but fading. I was very sore too, it hurt to put my bra on to go to work, but made it, and it's easier every day.  My energy level is going up some every day, seems to be slow to recover.....LOL it's a lot due to not doing much the last 3 months. I have a few extra pounds to shed also.  I have to ask, is the Kindle easy on your eyes?  When I read off the computer, or off my blackberry, my eyes get really tired fast, does it bother your eyes? 

  • CinCan
    CinCan Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010
    Suse64 - Reading on the Kindle doesn't hurt my eyes.  Yet, when I'm on my computer my eyes do get very tired also.  When I was getting Chemo my eyes really bothered me, they actually hurt especially when on my MacBook or watching TV (I was very sensitive to the light on the screens).....but not on the Kindle (it's different).  You can take the Kindle outdoors and ready it in the sunlight, unlike the MacBook.  I can also make the print larger so that I am not straining my eyes when I'm reading...it's actually easier for me to read on the Kindle than the actual books.
  • BossyRenee
    BossyRenee Member Posts: 77
    edited May 2010
    DONE!!!...and I got a certificate to prove it! The rad techs were so nice but I hope I never have to visit THEM again! Cool
  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2010

    Hooray Renee!!!! Well done!!!! Can't believe they actually give you a certificate. I asked my lot when I finished if I get one and they were quite puzzled.

    Good news - the skin is almost healed already!!!! I was able to go to bed last night without a dressing!!!

    Sue

  • BossyRenee
    BossyRenee Member Posts: 77
    edited May 2010

    Suepen: I am so glad to hear that your skin is healing. According to my techs I am one of the few whose skin looks "really good" after completing tx. I told them that everyday when I got home, I would slather on the aloe vera gel and/or the lotion the rad onc gave me called Remedy and just lay under the ceiling fan bare. They said that that is probably helped my skin.

    Congrats to all others who have finished and are healing.

     Renee

  • Suse64
    Suse64 Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2010

    Thank you for your reply about the Kindle, CinCan, I think now I may look into getting one, I love to read a good book.  I work at the airport, the time between flights in our small town can be quite a long time, and I need something to occupy my time. I was just worried about the eye strain, but it sounds like it isn't an issue.  How long does the battery stay charged?  I'm sorry, I should just go read about it....How are your boosts going?  CONGRATS TO ALL WHO HAVE FINISHED OR ABOUT TO FINISH ..... the red skin around the incision was sure easier to take than whole breast redness. Other than the color being darker, it is blending in better at my breast bone. Again, good luck to everyone!!!!!!   When I had my last boost, they had me ring a dinner bell, and yell horray, and they all hugged me.. LOL it was something.

  • sweatyspice
    sweatyspice Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2010

    CONGRATS Renee!

    I'm about to go in to the center to see the nursing staff.  I phoned yesterday and asked if I should be doing anything in particular about the area in the crease underneath....it peeled in and is sort of oozy.  They told me that they have antibiotic pads and that I should come in to get some.  I wasn't able to make it in yesterday, so I cut up one of those gel sheets they'd given me.  I'll go in now.  I want to get a supply of whatever it is before the holiday weekend.   For now, I have a folded over gauze pad stuck in the flop.

    I never wanted to go back there again!  But I'd have to go back anyway for a post-treatment check-up in a few more weeks ...

    Otherwise, it's healing pretty well I guess.  Just not as quickly or perfectly as I'd have liked.  So that's kinda normal for this thing called my "Cancer Journey."  Blah!

    Trying to get myself to fill the Tamox prescription and start on June 1.  That seemed like a good day to do it, but now that it's getting close it seems far less appealing....

    But, it's a beautiful day and a friend of mine flew in from Hamburg last night....good times will still be had!

  • CinCan
    CinCan Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    CHEERS to you BossyRenee!!!!

    Suepen- Happy to hear you are healing!

    Suse64 - 4 more Boosts.... 1/2 of my nipple is in the zap zone and is very burned, sore and painful.  Anything that touches it really, really hurts.... if only I could go topless all the time it wouldn't be so bad.  As for the Kindle, it has a very long battery life.  I go weeks without charging it and I never turn it off (I keep the wireless mode off and only turn that on when I'm ordering books so the battery stays charged longer).  The Kindle automatically goes to sleep after a few minutes of no activity and you can wake it up with a push of a button and opens to the page of where you left off.  It's really worth the investment!  I tell my sons, "it's the gift that keeps on giving"....that's how I feel every time I order a new book.

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited May 2010

    Renee, Congrats!  That's funny, I got a certificate too....must be an Atlanta thing.  :)

    It's been two days for me and the skin is still pretty nasty.....no shock there.  I have the peely/oozy thing happening too.  They suggested the nonstick gauzy things (and a cream with antibiotic).  So far, it's just nasty, but I was figuring that would be the case for a bit.   

  • sweatyspice
    sweatyspice Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2010

    They gave me a whole bunch of gauzy things which are impregnated with antibiotic and vaseline (to stick under my breast fold), and then some "regular" gauze to put on top of that (to protect my bra).  I seem to be getting used to it, but it was itchy and annoying at first.

    I hated being back there.

    Filled my Tamoxifen prescription.  I've been having endless drama with the Pharmacy, they had the wrong birthday on the account and when I had them change it to the correct birthday the coverage would be refused.  I asked my ins co (BC/BS) about this months ago, they had the correct birthday on file.

    So today, in another round of this discussion at the Pharmacy, it was determined that the insurance plan was an Oxford account.  I've never had Oxford in my life.  They said Oxford had paid for all my prior claims.  Well, OK, fine.  If Oxford wants to pay, I guess that's OK with me.

    This time Oxford refused the coverage, saying I was ineligible.  I again explained that I've never had Oxford and that I'd had BC/BS since 2007.  They then decided that another store in their chain, probably one close to my former office, had merged the files of two patients with the same name.   

    Then they took my ins card and called the cust svce number.  Lo and behold, YES I AM COVERED AND MY BIRTHDAY IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING IT IS FOR OVER A YEAR.  So they made a new, separate account for me with the PROPER ins info.  And then I checked out.  And the bill for my Tamoxifen was ZERO DOLLARS.

    So I guess I have better insurance than the other person with my name, and, since I've never had a zero balance due before, I'VE BEEN PAYING NEEDLESSLY FOR PRESCRIPTIONS FOR 2+ YEARS.  Or I just got lucky on the Tamox.

    I hate egregious incompetence.  And it took me a very long time to get in and out of the store!!!

    I guess the Universe really wants me to take the damned pill, if it's now coming to me for free. 

    *sigh* 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2010

    SweatySpice: Sorry your crease is going yukky like mine did.  Looks like face down zapping wouldn't have prevented it after all. I was speaking to one of the nurses from the radiation place yesterday and I told her I'd put medi honey on it and it was clearing up quickly. She said she had heard it was really good and some rad centres recommend it. It's antibacterial and certainly seems to have done the trick.

    I expect to get my Arimidex script next Wednesday when I go for my herceptin treatment. Unforunately we can't get totally free scripts over here because it's subsidised by the government and the private insurers only give you refunds for drugs that don't come under the govt scheme. Arimidex is covered by the govt scheme so I'll have to wait and see how much it costs.

    CinCan and Suse: I am an avid reader and nothing will replace real books for me. If I had a Kindle, I might have more room in my house though :)

    Sue

  • Suse64
    Suse64 Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2010
    I am definitely going to order a Kindle from Amazon. What size did you get CinCan?  Thanks for all the info about yours, I am excited, I love to read............SUEPEN....I ran out of room for anymore books, I need to have a yard sale and sell a few dozen.  It is the most beautiful weekend in Northern Michigan, and hubby is working with the neighbor to get the dock, and boats in, so intending to go boat riding this afternoon and tom. Cool....calling for rain on Monday......Yell  but we do need the rain, there have been a few forest fires in the north in the last few weeks, so hopefully a little rain will help.  Have a GREAT WEEKEND everyone!!!!!   Susan
  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2010

    Susan,

    Mine are stacked up in big bookshelves in my study. I did sort them out a while ago and donated some to a charity nearby. I have favourite authors who I regularly buy but also borrow from my library. I don't know why I collect them, when I never read them twice - I must be a hoarder :)

    We also have heaps upstairs, most of which belong to my son (he doesn't live at home), but I just noticed the other day, some are mine. I'll have to sort them out too.

    Sue

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