Are microcalcifications almost always DCIS?

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ebarb
ebarb Member Posts: 38
edited October 2017 in DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)

I am just trying to compile some research/questions to ask if my biopsy results come back positive for BC. 

Or could it be other types of cancer as well?  

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited May 2010

    Microcalcifications can be caused by several different things, DCIS or another form of cancer being only one possible cause. It all depends on whether there is any pattern to them or not, and if so what kind of pattern. For example, clustered microcalcifications are more likely (though not "for sure" until biopsied) to be caused by some type of cancer cells. If they're scattered and random-looking, they're not likely to be cancer.

    Did you get a copy of the radiologist report? There should be a BIRADS rating which tells you how likely the microcalcifications are to be of a cancerous pattern. 

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited May 2010

    Most of the time microcalcifications are b-9 and could be ADH (Atypical Ductal Hyperplaysia). I had 2 biopsies before my dx of DCIS and both times they were ADH.

  • ebarb
    ebarb Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2010

    They did not tell me a BIRADS rating but I will call to ask.  They didn't tell me much info actually, and I have called multiple times to ask questions.  If I post the BIRADS rating on here, will someone know what it means?

    Thanks :)

  • in_cognito
    in_cognito Member Posts: 429
    edited May 2010

    The BIRADS rating can give you an idea about how suspicious for cancer the radiologist thinks the abnormality on your mammogram is. 

    I've read that microcalcifications can either be BC  or not.  Nothing is confirmed until the biopsy comes back though.  Good luck and wishing you benign results!

  • cornellalum
    cornellalum Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2010

    LCIS can also present as microcalcifications, as well as pleomorphic LCIS.  I would advise you to take it one step at a time.  Get the biopsy results, then start your research if you have to.  Most of the time, calicifications are benign.  I know it's hard not to worry (been there!) but please do try. Let us know how it turns out, and good luck.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited May 2010

    Since you are having a biopsy, your mammo was probably BIRADs 4.  That's the most common rating for those who are sent for a biopsy.  Basically, BIRADs 4 means that a biopsy is necessary because there "are lesions that do not have the characteristic morphologies of breast cancer but have a definite probability of being malignant. "  Approx. 80% of BIRADs 4 biopsies turn out to be benign.

    Of greater concern (and much more rare) is BIRADs 5.  Approx. 95% of BIRADs 5 biopsies turn out to be malignant, although around this board we've certainly seen our share of benign results.  But those with a BIRADs 5 should prepare themselves for a malignant result. 

    BIRADs 1, 2 are benign findings.  BIRADs 3 is "probably benign" and usually indicates a short-interval follow-up mammo, but sometimes those with BIRADs 3 mammos are sent for biopsies.

    http://www.birads.at/kategorien.html

    Approx. 50% of women get calcifications and most of the time, they turn out to be nothing serious.  Only microcalcifications (i.e. tiny calcs) that are either clustered or linear are considered suspicious enough to warrant a BIRADs 4 rating and a biopsy.  But even 80% of these turn out to be benign.  As for what else the calcs can be, they can be completely benign and harmless or they could be either a low risk or high risk precancerous condition (ADH, ALH, LCIS, etc.).  If they are cancer, most of the time they are DCIS but sometimes they can be invasive cancer or a different type of cancer.

    At this point, heading into a biopsy, is it much too premature to be thinking DCIS (or something more serious).  Of course that's possible, but the more likely possibility will be that your calcs will be benign.

    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/347066-overview

    http://www.cpmc.org/services/women/breast/breast_califcations.html

  • ebarb
    ebarb Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2010

    I just called the hospital.  It is BIRADS 4, with a 3 cm lump that is located 10:00-10:30 (I guess that's clock speak for around the nipple for time?)  The microcalcs are located in the upper outer quadrant and there are scattered benign calcs, with the exception of the 3 cm one that being tested. 

    I know I am probably overly concerned but I was just at the gyn 5 mos. ago and there were no lumps to speak of.  I hope to be a part of that 80% but am trying to educate myself if I am not.

    Thanks for the info :)  I will write back here what I find out.

    Erin

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited May 2010

    Fingers crossed too that you're in the 80%!

    I saw from your other post that you're newly married -- congratulations!! Would you mind if I give you advice I wish someone had given me when I was 30 and newly married (8 years ago)? The two BIG things I wish I'd known were:

    1. Take an iodine supplement, and

    2. Don't take hormone-based birth control.

    If you're interested in knowing more about either of those things, do a search on the Complementary/Alternative board... in a nutshell, most people today are iodine-deficient, and iodine deficiency can lead to fibrocystic changes (benign but "lumpy" breasts), ADH, and ultimately breast cancer. 

    Hormone-based birth control (e.g. the pill or Mirena), I'm becoming more and more convinced, is just as responsible for higher risk of breast cancer as hormone replacement therapy is. 

    Sorry to throw those two things out there, but I find myself angry sometimes that no one EVER mentioned those two things to me and I had to find out on my own after I already had DCIS, and just had to pass along what I wish I'd known when I was younger!

  • tovahsmom
    tovahsmom Member Posts: 196
    edited May 2010

    Erin,

    I'm glad you asked this question. I had clustered microcalcifications last summer that turned out to be DCIS and just went for my 3 month follow-up and now have more clustered microcalcifications which of course I hope are not more DCIS. But as Beesie said, 80% of microcalcifications do turn out to be benign.

    Best wishes for benign results, 

  • hipchik47
    hipchik47 Member Posts: 268
    edited May 2010

    Hey Ebarb.  I had calcifications for years, over 10 years actually.  I was "watched' carefully and had as mamy as 4 mammos a year. The calcifications came and went usually in different areas. In between I had a few biopsies that were all b9.  Of course there came a time I did have dcis and had surgery.  Since u r prolly young, I would not worry about it till u have too. 

  • blessedtwice
    blessedtwice Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2010

    I just recently had my second mastectomy.  In 2006, I was diagnosed (from mammogram) with ductal carcinoma in situ in right breast.  I had previously had calcifications that they were watching, so I was having mammograms every 6 mos. The cancer was the size of a grain of sand, stage 0.  They did the mastectomy with tramflap(immediate) reconstruction.  I was in surgery for 8 hrs.  I did great, didn't have to have any lymphs removed, no radiation or chemo.  The Lord truly blessed me!  The last mamogram  I had was last July 2009 and had a breast exam by my surgeon(I was seeing him every 6 mos. and then seeing my gyn every 6 mos. so I was seeing a dr. every 6 mos.).  My last exam prior to my recent problem, was last July.  I went for my yearly exam with my gyn on April 12, 2010, and immediately he found the lump.  I have dense lumpy breasts so it was difficult for me to locate.  I had noticed for a couple of days (the weekend) that my left breast was very itchy and had gotten sore.  I thought it was the bra, because it felt like something was biting me.  So naturally when I checked it, it was red, where I had scratched it.But when he did the exam, immediately it hurt. He told me those "horrible" words, there's something there.  So he immediately called my surgeon, and they ordered a digital mammography and Ultra sound which immediately showed a "suspicious mass", I went straight to surgeon's office who did the needle biopsy that was on Thurs.  went back on following Tues. and got results-high grade intraductal carcinoma in situ.  Scheduled mastectomy with my plastic surgeon putting in expander.  I'm going today to hopefully have JP drain removed.  He will start the injection of saline solution and I will go every week (one day) to have this done, then go back in as OP to have implant put in.  I know how frustrated this is. I just wish I had gone ahead and had a double mastectomy when I had the tramflap.

  • nolookingback
    nolookingback Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2010

    My understanding is that microcalcifications mean changes in the breast tissue. Just that. Good job of being on top of things and following through. But try and not borrow trouble.(So easy to say and hard to do.) Good luck.

  • kmh1964
    kmh1964 Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2017

    What stage of invasive cancer can it be with microcalcifications

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