Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?

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  • pumpkinsoup
    pumpkinsoup Member Posts: 34
    edited May 2010

    Hi girls. Wow, it sounds like lots of us are having a hard time emotionally. I'm not even one week out from my last chemo, and can't believe how I suppressed so many emotions throughout this phase of treatment. I thought if I could just get through chemo, I'd be OK with everything else, but it's not that way, is it? Just the word "chemotherapy" is enough to scare the pants off anyone, so I guess we put on a brave face and try to appear as normal as possible to the rest of the world. Then chemo's over and you think about what you just went through and why. I'm so sick of looking at my bald head and thinking "cancer patient." It's still unbelievable. I look at my daughter, who will be 4 in two weeks, and am SO sorry that she has the experience of having a mom with cancer. That she ever had to see her mom sick and bald at such a young age, as I'm sure so many of you can relate. And her mom secretly worrying about the cancer returning, and her losing her mom prematurely. I made fish for dinner tonight and she said it was sad that I was eating the fish because I took the fish away from its mommy and the fish just wanted to be with its mommy. Yep, tug on those heart strings, cancer. 

    To you girls scared of surgery--really, you'll get through it just fine. I think the worst part is the drains. One thing I found helpful--if you are given the OK to shower, get a string to hang around your neck (I used one for reading glasses) and pin the drains to the string. Then I wrapped myself up in saran wrap and topped it all off with Glad Press and Seal. That kept the bandages and the drains completely dry. And, you'll get really good at wrapping yourself up in saran wrap for when you want to surprise your husband at the door when he comes home...Surprised 

  • VegasDiva
    VegasDiva Member Posts: 109
    edited May 2010

    Good Morning Ladies.  I had my last radiation tx yesterday.  YIPPEE I am officially done with treatment.  I feel so guilty because so many of you here are still facing surgery and more chemo.

    I can't believe I am done.  It seems like just yesterday when I got the diagnosis.  The only thing I have left is the 5 yrs of Arimidex.  My onc said to give my body a weeks break and to start on the Arimidex next Monday.  I asked her about SE.  She said the most common were joint pain and hot flashes.  Oh joy, something to look forward to!

    I try not to even think about the BC coming back.  I just think of myself as 'cured' and move on from here.

    I got the lovliest gift yesterday at radiation.  A group called Hearts of Hope make gifts for cancer patients.  My nurse presented me with a beautiful ceramic heart with the word hope painted on it. I brought it to work and have it having in my cube.

    I know someone mentioned this before, but now that I am done with treatment people expect you to be 100% immediately.  I don't think they realize it is not like a light switch, you do not feel great right away.  Sometimes I think I put up too much of a good front and folks don't realize just how lousy you can feel.  They didn't see me when I was home on the couch crying or having uncontrollable diarrhea or just so weak I could barely get out of bed.

    Does anyone know if it is ok to dye your hair after treatment?  I will be going away in 3 weeks and will be sharing a room with a girlfriend.  Don't want her to see all my salt & peppa fuzz.  I thought maybe if it was my usual color I would feel better about showing my 'bald' head.  I even made an appt with my hairdresser to get a haircut.  Since I didn't shave my head in the beginning I have lots of long stragglers that are looking pretty ratty now.  I even bought another wig.  I figure it will be awhile before I can go without one and I am getting tired of the one I have been wearing.

    I will still be here everyday checking the postings to see how everyone is doing. 

    Love & hugs to all you wonderful ladies.  Stay strong.

  • Blarney1828
    Blarney1828 Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    Susan G. Komer needs to be investigated as to what they are doing with our money!

    John Robbins: Greed, Cancer and Pink KFC Buckets

  • Blarney1828
    Blarney1828 Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    I meant Susan G Komen but they have tose walks all over the country and where does the money go???

  • Blarney1828
    Blarney1828 Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    Susan G. Komen needs to be investigated: John Robbins: Greed, Cancer and Pink KFC Buckets

    They have those walks all over the country and where does the money go??

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Yikes! I don't know who this "Blarney" person is, but I read the article from the link and it's sickening and gives one pause! I am a registered Susan G. Komen 3 Day/60 nile walker and I wonder if what I am raising money for is actually helping?? I do think that with all the BILLIONS of dollars raised so far for breast cancer research, we should have found a cure by now.

    Anyway, VegasDiva: Congrats on completing radiation--and yes, I hear you! People don't realize that just because we're done with treatment, treatment isn't done with us! Even if you feel good physically, the emotional side is huge! Very nice gesture from the nurse--giving you the hope heart. Pumpkinsoup: can totally relate to feeling bad about your kid seeing you sick. My 9 year-old was in a school play a couple of months ago. Each cast member had a "head shot" and bio as you went into the theater, which included what they wanted to do this summer. Isaac wrote,"I want my mom to be cured from breast cancer and to have all her hair back so she can play with us again."

  • youngmomof3
    youngmomof3 Member Posts: 156
    edited May 2010

    alright Mslrg & Pumpkinsoup, now you are just making me cry. Hearing your kid stories makes me sad for all of our children that they have to watch their moms fight cancer and may not evenf ully understand why. I hate cancer for doing this to my kids, for taking away a part of their innosense, for having them see me sick and weak, and for putting fear into their minds that I could be taken from them. People are always telling me that my kids will see me as strong for fighting cancer but I don't think at their ages(8,6 & 18 months) they are capable of seeing this and I'm not sure if down the road, years from now they will look back and see this experience differently. Honestly I hope they don't remember any of it b/c I fear the bad memories will outweigh the good ones from this period of time.

    Vegasdiva: congratulations!!! you deserve to enjoy this time and embrace being done with treatment. you seem to have a good outlook and I hope when i am all done i will also feel "cured".

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    One more post-surgical tip. The hospital gave me a flannel "fanny pack" that velcroes around your waist and has pockets for drains while you take a shower. It proved invaluable to me because I had drains in for about 3 weeks. PS: You feel MUCH better when the drains are removed--very liberating!

    Regarding the kid issue: It is terrible that our children have to see us go through this. I think it robs them of a part of their childhood, and for that I feel a lot of guilt. But there's nothing we can do about it, except what we're doing. Our children know we love them, and that we want to be able to do more for them. I think they understand in their own ways that we are doing our best. It's just so difficult to be the mom you want to be and who your kids deserve when you feel so sick. Right now, I'll be happy if we can just keep our house after all this income loss my cancer has caused!

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2010

    VegasDiva - Congrats on being done with treatment.  It is so great to be done but also a weird to be.  Yes, almost everyone expects you to be back to normal but I don't know what normal is.

    I am being "De-ported" today.  I am looking forward to not having this thing in my chest.  I also met with gyn surgeon yesterday to discuss the details of my hysterectomy on the 4th of June.  I am having it done via the da Vinci robotic device.  The recovery is supposed to be pretty amazing.  She said she knows one person who went snow skiing 2 weeks post surgery.  One of the hardest parts of this surgery is totally a vanity thing.  There will be two surgeons and the other surgeon is a man who is the father of a girl my daughter went to school with several years ago.  They were on the same soccer team.  I am not too thrilled with the idea of lying there naked on the table with no hair (anywhere), no boobs, and 30+ pounds overweight.  I don't have much choice but to deal with it.  We live in totally different parts of town so are paths won't cross.

    Mslrg - I do think that the Komen/KFC alliance is a strange combination.  I am doing the 3 day as well and feel that my money is going to a good organization regardless of this decision.

  • Blarney1828
    Blarney1828 Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    Who is Blarney? I was diagnosed with breast cancer almost a year ago and after 4 months on Arimidex had a mastectomy and 16 lymph nodes removed; 11 of which were positive. Just completed 5 months of chemo, but had to discontinue Taxol after 7 out of 12 sessions due to severe neuropathy. Will be starting radiation in 2 weeks.

     I  posted the Komen comment because as I have sat in the Day Hospital I have realized how few drugs really exists for those with non-metastatic breast cancer and how awful we suffer taking them. Yet others with other types of cancer seem to have more options and much more benign side effects. I was talking to a 43 yr. old last week with pancreatic cancer who was on her 6th treatment had a full head of hair, looked very healthy and it made me wonder why we get the short end of the stick. Each October stores of all kinds, individuals and corporations contribute to breast cancer. Why is there not a vaccine, cure, better treatment. Something! Am I really alone in this thinking?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2010

    Blarney

    I'm right there with you. The Jan chemo sisters talked about this about a month back. Since I've been diagnosed with cancer, I'm very cynical about the  big money making "cancer industry". It is in no-one's best interest to find a cure for BC. (No one except us- that is)  just think of all the people who would be out of a job if there was a cure for BC. I too am walking in the 3 day, raising a lot of money for Susan G Komen and hoping that some of the money will actually go toward finding a cure. Yes the KFC/SGK partnership is an oxymoron.

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Issymom--good luck on the "de-port"procedure. That equals one more step away from the chemo ordeal! I am too chicken to get it done with a local in my doctor's office, so my PS will take it out when I get my exchange surgery. I'll be under general anaesthesia and won't know a thing. Others: if you are a little squeamish about being awake when they take the port out, know that having it removed while you're getting another surgery done and under general is an option.

    Blarney, hello I don't think I've seen you post on this thread before, but I'm glad you gave us that link. We need to be informed and know what's going on. Issymom and Nkrun: I agree that I sure hope the dollars I'm raising help find a cure, but I also agree that a lot of pharmeceutical companies would go belly up if that happened. Maybe we should start our own Foundation that raises $$ for breast cancer research in areas that haven't yet been funded. If my efforts could really find a cure for cancer, I could care less about those greedy pharm companies. I have a lot of respect for Susan G. Komen Foundation, but I wonder if they're doing a litle soul selling when they partner up with a company like Kentucky Fried--a company that makes it money selling fast food, fried food, and apparently mistreats the chickens before they're slaughtered. I agree with Blarney that our "treatment" is harsh and debilitating as compared to some other cancer sufferers, but some people have it even worse than us. I have a friend who is not quite half way through a 3 year chemo regimen for lymphoma. How awful is that?

    My heart is also heavy: my cousin is 23 years old and has a five year old daughter. She has kidney failure and a clot in her neck. Her mom and sister are both matches, but won't donate a kidney. Her dad, (My dad's brother) has congestive heart failure and diabetes, so he can't even be considered as a donor. Tricia is in the hospital, receiving dialysis three times a week and waiting to die. What knd of family am I a member of?????

  • pumpkinsoup
    pumpkinsoup Member Posts: 34
    edited May 2010

    youngmom & mslrg -- The kid thing. I know it's not my fault that I got cancer, but the guilt I feel over the fact my daughter lost six months (so far) of her life with her mom being "normal" is weighing on me heavily. I agree with you youngmom--I don't know if they'll able to interpret the experience as their mom being strong. I don't really know how she'll process this. I hate that cancer has changed my girl's childhood.

    mslrg--I'm so sorry to hear of your cousin's little girl. I have a family member who donated a kidney to another family member 20 years ago, and both are doing well. The recipient has had type 1 diabetes since he was a teenager, but he's doing OK, thanks to the kidney transplant. I can't believe there are two matches in your family and no one will help the little girl!

    issymom--how are they removing your port? Please let us know how the experience was. What a great feeling to get rid of that thing!

    vegasdiva--Congratulations on finishing radiation! How great to be done!

    As for me, I start radiation for 5 weeks the second week in June. Then, I'm having the other breast removed prophylactically, since it came out BIRADS III on my MRI last November, but BS talked me out of bilateral. This all means that I'll have another TE to fill, and can't have the TE exchange until at least January 2011 because of the radiation. And, all this treatment is done 3 1/2 hours away! UGH. I live with my parents while I have treatments, and I feel like a middle-aged teenager when I stay with them! One of the pitfalls of living in a smallish town--limited medical care. 

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2010

    Mslrg - I cannot fathom that close family members will not donate their kidney to your cousin.  It is a sacrifice but the alternative is her dying.  That is not a chose my mom or sister would make.

    I had my port out today.  I went to the hospital and was expecting light general anesthetia but the anesthetiologist talked to me and said they could give me a local and then put me in a light sleep mode.  I told her that I did not want to be able to carry on a conversation but a light sleep would be great.  We thought this would be good as I will be under general anesthetia for my hysterectomy in two weeks.   I was mostly "out of it" during the procedure but I remember periodically waking up and knowing stuff was going on around me but not really caring.  The nurses gave me a mylar balloon that said "Congratulations" on it.  That was really nice

    This Saturday we are having an End of Chemo celebration party.  We are also using it as a fundraiser for my 3 day walk.  We have about 60 people coming and have raised $900.  Only a small percentage of the people attending have donated and I know that most will so I feel good about reaching our goal.  My husband said he would shave his head if we reached $2000 by the night of the party.  Then we can see whose hair grows back faster.  Unfortunately, I know that it will be John's hair as there is not sign of hair growth on my body.  I am trying to be patient but I thought I would have some chemo fuzz by now.

  • dgirl24
    dgirl24 Member Posts: 33
    edited May 2010

    ER positive girls- anyone start their Tamoxifen yet- did you doctor go over the drugs that inhibit CYP2D6 that should be avoided while taking Tamox.?  There is info on them out there- I haven't gotten my mine yet- but I'm hoping the doc goes over all that. 

    vegasdiva- congrats on finishing up- back to the real world for you...so they think it's real!  Hey did you ever decide on Latisse? 

    issy-congrat on port removal!  

    NKRUN- I found a recipe by Bobby Flay on Foodnetwok - it's Oven Roasted Cauliflower with Turmeric and Ginger...good for us to eat.  And I myself will add BLACK pepper because it helps the turmeric.  Maybe you'll want to look it up.  Also - i thought you are still in process of making breast decisions and I just finished reading a great book for rehad exercises during ever treatment and surgery.  It's called Staying Abreast by Annie Toglia- I just finished reading last night and took notes because yesterday I had my tissue expander exchange and a breast lift reduction on the other side and want to exercise the right way.  The book works in stages and let's you know at what week to move up and so.  It's a good book - because I live in a small town and couldn't really find anyone who specializes in breast cancer exercises- maybe you live somewhere with better resources - either way I thought of you when reading posts about exercise.  My legs still get super stiff after sitting....it's only after walking my 2 miles I feel pretty good and loose- even my upper body feels better. NK- you going to starting taking aspirin - everyday for inflammation as well?  I am.

    KFC- breast cancer fund raising.  I have to give my 2 cents as my family owns and operates 6 stores.  After having cancer I question a lot of things........and Susan G Koman....well you have to look at the whole picture.  Are they doing more bad than good....Can all things that we think cause cancer be avoided.  Do they stay away from plastic water bottles, are their t-shirts organic?  We all have to make our own decisions.   KFC is raising money for breast cancer.  You may have a problem with KFC because it makes people fat, causing heart problems and so on.  Well it's not KFC that's making people over weight or helping them with their heart problems- it's people.  KFC was the 1ST fast food chain to go total NO Trans FATS.  They carry healthy food choices.  KFC carries Kentucky Grilled Chicken.  I honestly believe anything in moderation is OK.  Now I also will say - now that I have had breast cancer- I won't eat any fast food for a long time- because I am HIGH RISK.  We all have to be smart.  I won't use water plastic water bottles, or microwave with plastic. 

    And 1 more thing - I've worked for my family business for years and KFC has been a good living for my parent's who are wonderful people.  Thanks to KFC we have wonderful insurance that made my treatment less of a worry.  We sell KFC because it's good food and it reminds us of family meals.  Remember the old days of bringing home a red and white bucket of juicy KFC?  Well families only did that on special occasions- they weren't eating out as much as they are now.  Also the franchise owned stores- like my parent's - my parent's are the ones collecting the money for the donation.  Our stores sell the buckets and we give the donation.  

    I do agree we need better funding for other areas like - chemo brain, hair loss, and after affects.  Starting our own foundation is a great idea, but finding funds isn't always the easiest thing to do.  Susan G. is doing their best to find funds for us and I'm grateful.  I hope the money is going to the right place....if not something should be done.  Shouldn't it be public knowledge where the money is going...if not that should be a red flag.  Until I know for sure- I'm just going to be grateful.   

    I had my exchange yesterday as well as a lift and reduction and although I don't like looking at it- it went well.  I found it hard to go into the operating room- no hair- no make-up, jewelry and 15-20lb over weight.  I was thinking gee what are they thinking and why would they think I give a crap if my boobs look good....well the only girl thing I did was keep my toe nails painted!  As little as a thing it was it made me feel pretty and when one of the guys took my socks off he said"NICE" and I felt even better- like they knew I was a girl!

    GRAMO you out there?  thinking of ya!

    MichelleNJ- thinking of you as well. 

    Have a great day girls!

    HUGS          

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Issymom--glad your port removal went well. What a good idea to have the party. I'm sure you'll do very well.

    Dgirl: My Tamoxifen start will probably take place next month. My blood counts were too low when in went in for my last appointment, so my onc wanted to wait. I'm also having exchange surgery on June 21st, and I read on the Exhange City thread that you should not take Tamox for a couple of weeks prior to surgery because of blood clot problems,so that will probably delay it more. Thanks for mentioning that though,my onc never did. I am really scared about taking it--the side effects can be far-reaching.

     No offence intended regarding KFC, just my thoughts on the odd coupling of a fast food chain with an anti-cancer research foundation.

    RE: Your exchange surgery: Please give us DETAILS: How do you feel? How did it go? WHat is the estimated recovery? Do you need pain meds? Did you have anything else done besides the exchange? I am getting my port remoed and some lipo sculpting with my exchange. I can't wait to get these turtle shells out of my chest! Thanks for the tip on the book, I will check that out

    I am off now to see the social worker/therapist at the Cancer Center because I am really struggling with depression. After that, I go for my early pre-op with my PS.

    Have a good day, everyone

  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2010

    HI Everyone,

    Yesterday I had my 10th out of 12 Taxols - 2 more chemo treatments to go!  I was also "unblinded" for the Avastin study where I could have wound up in group A - placebo; group B - 10 treatments during routine chemo, or group C - 10 routine plus an extra 10 cycles post-chemo.  I was hoping not to be in either A or C.  So, the good news is that I am in Group B.  I've received the 10 cycles of Avastin while doing the A/C and now the Taxol.   So, I am pleased and relieved today.

    As for Susan G. Koman, there are several ways to figure out who to give your charitable dollars to.  First of all you can look up any charity's Form 990s on http://www.guidestar.com/  The Susan G. Koman website lists all their Form 990s so you can go directly to their site and get more updated information than in guidestar.  The reason a form 990 is important is that it contains vaulable information for any donor.  In the case of Koman, all the grantees are listed - how much they got, organization's name and location and type of grant.  It also lists compensation for all key employees earning over $100,000.  In the Koman case, according to their Form 990 2009 filing, there are 17 executives earning over $100,000.  With all benefits, the CEO earned $558, 601.  The base salary was $406,691.  I consider that on the high end for a npo CEO - but there are others who earn a bunch more (Several hospitals, universities, boy scouts CEO and others).  I am appaled, however, that the CEO travels first class and chartered flights.  Not necessary and somewhat inappropriate - to me it shows poor judgement and some personal arrogance. However, often a CEO and the board of directors take a "private corporate" view of the leadership role.  I think that is a mistake.  Passion, commitment, and awareness that every dollar possible should be spent on mission should define top leadership.  A decent wage (which is six-figures today but not half a million) should be okay.  When I worked for Marian Wright Edelman (Children's Defense Fund) she only made $90,000 while most folks in her position in DC were making several hundred thousand annually.  I still admire Marian today - she's the real deal.  She traveled coach.

    There are "watchdog" sites that rate charities on performance.  That performance is generally based on their financials and some program parameters.  The best known is Charitynavigator.org  They have Koman listed with 4 out of 4 stars - which means they consider it a well perfoming charity.  See http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4509  Interesting to read the comments section - many other donors are complaining about CEO compensation and the highly visible marketing campaigns and corporate partners.

    Another watchdog is the Better Business Bureau which reviews Charities,  see http://www.bbb.org/us/Charity-Reviews/  I couldn't find Koman on this site.  You can make an inquiry and they'll get back to you with information.

    American Institute of Philanthropy rates top charities (not all charities) and Koman is listed and got a B+ rating (not bad and not the best rating). National Breast Cancer Coalition Fund got an A rating.  I looked at charities I had worked for and found the Children's Defense Fund (I was COO there for seveal years) and they rated an A, Girl Scouts USA got an A- (probably because they have an 18 month reserve - they were pushing higher reserves when I was a council executive director).  Funny, I would consider the Girl Scouts to be better run internally but both are great charities. For AIP, their website states: "Groups included on the Top-Rated list generally spend 75% or more of their budgets on programs, spend $25 or less to raise $100 in public support, do not hold excessive assets in reserve, and receive "open-book" status for disclosure of basic financial information and documents to AIP."

    Watchdog groups help make you feel comfortable about the uses of your donated dollars.  But it doesn't help you match your personal preferences with chairty focus. My son is working to raise funds for his Koman walk in the fall.  I wouldn't have picked Koman for my personal charitable support.  I am not philosophically aligned with the group, I did contribute to his walk because...he's my son.

     Hope this helps. Love to all of you.

    Pat

  • dgirl24
    dgirl24 Member Posts: 33
    edited May 2010

    pat- thanks for the charity hook-up- very interesting!

    mslrg- no offense taken- just thought I'd give my 2cents...really no prob

    Detail...I had 1 gummy put in my right side and i love it already....soooooo much better than the tissue expander!!!  I had a lift/reduction on my good breast- 3oz taken out of my good breast.  I took vicaden last night and through the middle of the night I upped the dose to 2 pills and did that 2x- once at 3am and once at 7am...then I was good and didn't take another one till 10:30 and just one at that. 

    My implant side is so much less painful that my good breast- that is where I'd feeling the pain.  The implant side is going to need exercise b/c like with the mast. I feel it getting tight.  This is why that book helps me.  It goes over implant surgery a bit and Tramflap surgery also lymphedma tips!

    I have to say - pain not bad at all on implant side.

    Painful on good breast- they cut all around the nipple and then down- ouch!  

    As far as looks the implant side looks pretty good.  I noticed under both breast there is a gathering where they are making a fold for the breast.  I haven't had the rib pain at all due to the stickes in there.  My good breast looks like frankinbreast.  My implant at the bottom looks like it has a dent - but I was told that everything is going to move a bit.

    I'm very happy.  I didn't remember to ask my doctor about massage to prevent the formation of scar tissue and phase 1 has gentle exercises to keep implant soft and to prevent capsular contrature(pg97)- but in the book it mentions asking about that...  If I were you I would ask your doc about that.  I'm going to ask mine.

    I'm do to have radiation and my plastics doc said not to let the rads doc talk me into starting rads less than 4 weeks from implant- so I did change my rads date- as to have a full 4wks recovery.       

    I realize you are having 2 done-but if you don't have much feeling there- I don't think pain will be as much an issue as mobility- you know what I mean- right?

    Today I'm able to do paper work and deal with medical bills and other bull...so I'm doing ok.  I think next week when I get my drain out I'll be fine so resume my office job- part time.  I only have the one drain on the implant side.  I found $7 front closure bras at walmart and then seem like they will be good once I get rid of this drain.

    tamox- no i didn't start before surgery either....make sure you find out about those drug interactions because some of them are anti depressents -the very drugs we need.  I think zoloft was ok- but prozac and paxil are not...benadryl has moderate CYP2D6 Inhibitors- I wish I could be more helpful but I'm just going to make sure I ask when I get my tamox at the doctor's.

    Depression is the theme here as well...I think about talking to a social worker as well.  Since my surgery I'm on a high.....you will feel so much better when those expanders are out- they make us so funky looking.

    Hey what is that lipo sculpting?  I have an area under my arm pit where they took all my nodes and it's so indented I can't shave in there...maybe a nose shaver.  I wonder if they could fix it?

    NKRUN- just thought of something - if you are ER+ you need to cut out soy- is what one doctor told me AND there is soy in a lot of things.  I purchased Organic Hair Fertilizer (in the black hair section) for hair growth at CVS and now I see it has soy so I never used it....Any triple negs out there want me to ship it out to ya?  I am tempted to use it but I'm scared. It's a root simulator.      

    Have a good day.

    My white cell count was down a bit at time of pre op - but the day of surgery still a little low but rising...so don't be alarmed if they say you have a low count.  I made out ok.  OH and paint your toe nails for surgery- it helped me a lot.  LOL      

    Hope that helps you some!

          

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2010

    dgirl24,

    Thanks for defending the KFC position. It is nice to get both sides of the story. 

    As for soy, I try to avoid it but find it sometimes hard. Yes it is in everything including many of my favorite Kashi products. I switched from soy to hemp milk and stopped eating tofu. 

    I will have to check out the Bobby Flay recipe for the cauliflower with turmeric.

    Still struggling with the surgery decision. I had an onc appointment this am and she is still pretty convincing that a lumpectory/partial mas is the way to go. I've been told to not get to hung up on my decision because things may change when the BS actually gets in there.  I have a friend who thought she was getting a lumpectomy but when she woke up from surgery both breasts were gone.  

    Nope I don't plan on taking aspirin daily for inflammation. I have really low blood pressure and my docs in the past have cautioned against aspirin. 

    I have not started taking tamoxifen yet. Thanks for the watchout

     MSLR- glad you are going to talk to the social worker.  Be honest with you I'm a little worried about ya.  I hope you can find an amicable solution in your work situation.

    Pat-thanks so much for the wealth of information on charities.

    Issymom-Congratulations and thanks for sharing the term 'deported" love it.

  • Tamatar
    Tamatar Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2010

    Hi Everyone,

    I haven't posted in awhile, but let me tell you what has been happening.  During my chemo,Ii did not get my TE expanded bacause they were pretty close to full size and my very fair sensative skin was getting irritated. 

    My PS is the best and gave me antibiotecs to see if ther was an infection...but I got no better and began having 'thin skin" that was very resd on several areas of both preasts (I had a Bi Mas in Dec.)  well the skin got more sensitive and I tried benedryl to see if it was an allergic reaction...to no avail.  Then the areas started to break apart because the skin was so thin.  This was caused agin, by my sensitive Irish skin as well as the Taxol and moer importantly the steroids that are given during chemo.

    So..this morning I had surgery to remove both TEs.  It went very well and I am feeling SO MUCH better.  I have a little pain near on incision, but nothing too bad.  My PS said that he can possibly place a smaller implnt at at later date of do any other method of recon once I am all healed.  he said that there was no "infection" just skin that deteriorated and could not contain the expander.  In addition my immune system (that was really not too good due to chemo) chose to fight against the expander...and not agains the sinus infection i had fro 3 months...go figure!

    Anyway, I am feeling much better and feel like this may be the light at theend of the tunnel!  I just wanted all of you with TEs to REALL WATCH for any redness and quickly report it to your PS.

    Have a great day ladies...we all deserve it!

    Tammy

  • Tamatar
    Tamatar Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2010

    DANG - I JUST RE-READ MY POST-I MUST STILL HAVE CHEMO BRAIN, MY SPELLING AND GRAMMAR IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • youngmomof3
    youngmomof3 Member Posts: 156
    edited May 2010

    Tamatar: so glad you are doing okay. That is some crazy stuff.

    dgirl: congrats on your exchange surgery.

    issymom: Whoo hoo!!! so excited that you are officially done with all of this chemo crap.

    Actually I was going to post a question to all of you who have had expanders and see how your experiece was? I am still torn between the free-flap surgery and the implants and my PS said he needs to know by the end of this week if i want to have my surgery in july as recommended. So incredibly stressed out about having to make this decision and am terrified that I will make the wrong one. If anyone could, please share what made you choose implants or flap and how has it been since?

  • youngmomof3
    youngmomof3 Member Posts: 156
    edited May 2010

    Tamatar: so glad you are doing okay. That is some crazy stuff.

    dgirl: congrats on your exchange surgery.

    issymom: Whoo hoo!!! so excited that you are officially done with all of this chemo crap.

    Actually I was going to post a question to all of you who have had expanders and see how your experiece was? I am still torn between the free-flap surgery and the implants and my PS said he needs to know by the end of this week if i want to have my surgery in july as recommended. So incredibly stressed out about having to make this decision and am terrified that I will make the wrong one. If anyone could, please share what made you choose implants or flap and how has it been since?

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2010

    I gals ... I have not been on in a few days because when I read MSLRG's post about her cousin, and how folks were not helping her out, I actually started to cry.  I was enraged, and SO so sad for what that young girl must be going through.  OMG MSLRG, I am so sorry that you are having to go through that along with all of this cancer crap ... it just makes me so sad and I just HOPE that poor girl's family is able to straighten up and fly right while they still have time!

     I saw how some of you have been posting anti-cancer recipe ideas (YUM!! thank you so much!) and I was wondering if any of you had looked at The Cancer Fighting Kitchen by Rebecca Katz?  She used to cook for Cancer patients at a Cancer Care facility in California (I think it was CA) called Commonweal ...  the intro reads something like this :

    The Cancer Fighting Kitchen features 150 science-based, nutrient-rich recipes that are easy to prepare and designed to give patients a much needed boost by stimulating appetite, and addressing treatment side effects ... a step by step guide helps patients nutritionally prepare for all phases of treatment, and a full nutritional analysis accompanies each recipit ... this remarkable resource teaches patients abd caregivers how to use readily available powerhouse ingredients to build a symptom- and cancer-fighting culinary toolkit ...

    I still use the book weekly, and the only thing I have changed are where she adds lime or lemon juice, as now, that I am no longer on the "bad" chemo, those flavors are too much for me -- her recipies use a lot of wonderful non hot spices, which she uses very lightly ... so once you know how the recipe is supposed to taste, you can add more or less depending on your own personal taste... 

     I bought this book the week that I finished my A/C treatment (as that was the first time I felt human enough to start researching about the foods I shoudl be eating, and oh how I wish I would have had this book at the start of chemo!  I heard of recent research for Triple Negative Breast Cancer that says that a low fat diet  (keeping fat calories to 20% of your daily total calories) reduces the risk of recurrence by somethign like 40%!  Keeping the total fat that low is a challenge, and this cookbook really helps me do that!  Her recipies are also very anti-inflammitory, which is also supposed to help fight BC.  Here are some anti-inflammitory and cancer fighting foods, and here is the blog where I learned first about that Rebecca Katz book...

     The woman who writes that blog, Jennifer Griffin, is a 40 year old mom of three who was diagnosed in October with TN BC, and she is just starting radiation.  She is basically at the same stage in this whole process as we are.  She is also a FOX news correspondant, and her writing and her attitude are absolutely inspiring.  She has been all over the media getting it out there about the battle we are all fighting.  She is a force to be reckoned with!

    okay, I am done blathering ... I have been meaning to write about these things for several weeks now, but it has been so hard for me to find the time!

     Coming up on treatment #12 of 12 this Friday!

  • dgirl24
    dgirl24 Member Posts: 33
    edited May 2010

    tamatar-so glad you are feeling better- you poor thing!  I bet it was huge getting those out- what a relief!  Tam- chemo brain- I still have that problem...lol.  stinks

    Billion- love that blog and love that book.  I'm going to try the magic chicken soup...think that's the name.  And I also want those chicpea burgers.  I am planning on trying 1 recipe a week and making a soup every Sunday.  Let me know if you try and of the recipes and I'll d the same.  I'm trying really hard to set up a real easy routine (meal plan) for my breakfasts and lunches.  I'm also trying really hard to incorporate all the fighting cancer foods from AntiCancer..ya know green tea, turmeric, apples, carrots, cabbage, broccoli and so on.  It's exhausting but if I don't put a plan together I'll never do it.  Are you doing radiation?

    youngmom - that's tough because we all are so different in ways.  My situation was I had to decide before I knew the status of my lymph nodes.  I was told that if I did do the tissue expander with implant and needed radiation and something went wrong I could always then go for the "hybrid" (transflap) procedure.  It turns out I do need radiation and I have an implant in there....so if something goes wrong with my Rads I can always go for the other procedure.  See if I had trans flap and something goes wrong- then what take more tissue from somewhere else?  Now you do know that implants will need to be replaced after 10 or so years?  Something like that made me want the transflap and forget about ever having another surgery.  I roomed in the hospital with a girl who had both breast done with transflap and it was painful from what I heard but now she is all done...  as it turns out she ended up having positive nodes (that weren't suppose to be positive) so she is going to have radiation in the end.  I don't know if that helps.  Also I just read about life restrictions that they don't really tell you about.....maybe you need to evaluate what restrictions both bring.  I believe with transflap you can't do certain things with your abs?            

    If you get TE- I myself didn't like mine- but now that I have my implant I feel so much better.  Good luck to you.

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2010

    Tamatar: The chickpea burgers ROCK .. we double the spices, and omit the lime and red peppers (i hate red peppers), we have an oil sprayer loaded with olive oil, and we barely dust the pan with olive oil for "frying", they taste better fried than baked.  They are kind of like falaffel, but lighter.  OH, and they TOTALLY rock if you make the Tomato Chutney on pg 176 - we omit the mint and use cilantro instead.  I will load two of the little chickpea burgers into a pita slathered with a TBSP or two of hummus, toss in some chopped cucumbers, and top with the tomato chutney ... talk about YUM.  My husband adds a few cubes of feta to his.

    The other recipies we have tried and REALLY like are : The chicken broccoli stirfry -- pg 105 (we omit the lime or add jsut a teeny little bit) -- the Commonweal Most Nourishing and Healing TEa -- pg. 157(I am drinking it right now matter of fact) -- Mediterranean Lentil Salad -- pg 142 (made this once and it was good, but I would realy boost the spices the next time around and omit almost all of the lemon juice) The cardamom Macaroons -- pg 197 (yum!), Maple-glazed Walnuts pg 141, The nappa cabbage slaw pg. 92, the Warm and toasty cumin carrots, pg 93 (oh yum, LOVE these with lentil dal), The cucumber, jicama, and Mango Salad (really like this!  It is very summery! omit of decrease the lime juice). 

    Did you know that rebecca Katz has aother cookbook as well?  It is a kind of follow up book to this Anti Cancer book, it is called One bite at a time, Nourishing Recipes for Cancer susvivors and their friends ... We have not made a lot out of this second book yet, but the recipes look really good!

  • michelle_nj
    michelle_nj Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2010
    Hello Sisters,

    Dgirl24 - Thanks a lot for thinking of me and for the detailed information on the exchange operation. I have it this Friday and my pre-surgical tests were not that good. Yesterday they called me for a Neupogen shot. Your reassurance helped.
    About Tamoxifen, my oncologist said she would be ok for me to start it 2 weeks after exchange(that is 2 weeks before radiation ), but she is not sure if the radiation oncologist will be ok with it. Does anybody have Tamoxifen and radiation in the same time? I will look for that Cauliflower with Turmeric recipe too. It sounds really healthy.
    Pagowens - I'm really happy you were in the B Group and got that Avastin without extra treatment weeks.
    Tamatar - I'm glad you are feeling better, but what a pain to start again with the reconstruction after you got almost to the end of it.
    YoungMomof3 - Good luck with your decision making. And don't be terrified that you will make the wrong one, because you will feel what is right for you.
    11Billion - Thanks for the links and Friday enjoy the good feeling that it is your last chemo and you don't have to come back in a week.

    I didn't post lately because I was on a short vacation and my daughter's college graduation. The ceremony was great and I was very happy for my daughter, but overall it was a hard experience I'm still recovering from.
    It was my first traveling after I got diagnosed and I just realized how hard is to have to eat out for a week and eat healthy and organic and no soy and all the things we were taught in the books and we all discussed about. In my before BC life I kept my weight under control, with a like Atkins diet (couldn't I have been more wrong?) In Miami I had a hard time choosing the right food and feeling good about it and myself. And after a few days there, I found out that my dad was diagnosed with lung metastases from the colon cancer he had about 2 years ago. We are the only ones in the family that ever had cancer. I try not to think about it now, and I can't really talk about it too without becoming paranoid. I can't sleep even with sleeping pills.

  • KAJDerby
    KAJDerby Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2010

    Tamatar - Welcome back.  So sorry about the TEs.

    Pat - thank you for all the charity info. 

    dgirl24 - thank you for your perspective.  I have to be honest, I LOVE KFC original, but don't eat it.  They have it here in Okinawa even.

    The thing about charities is that everyone is very hard up for funding.  I feel for organizations that are really trying to make a difference and still trying to stick with their own moral compass.  I am way MORE upset about the income those CEOs are making off of money that is supposed to go to cancer research.  I know they are not the only charity CEOs getting that kind of money, but it frustrates me so when we have a health care crisis in America and some people who even lose their homes just so they can get treatment!

    Pagowens - I too was glad you were in group B. 

    Momof3 - praying for your decision.

    11tybillion - I LOVE Ms. Katz recipes!  I have both books.  I made the roasted red roma soup with the homemade pesto!  Delicious!!  I also made the orange ginger chicken.  My family gobbled it up!!!!!  The Med lentil salad was one of my very favorites.  Right now my taste buds are still shot and the lemon and feta really help them pick up flavors.  I am going to try the chickpea burgers this weekend after I feel like being among the living again.

    I also have One Bite at a Time.  Usually I have not appetite, but for some reason just looking at the pictures in these books makes me want to cook and eat!

    Michelle - I am very sorry to hear about your father.  Glad about your daughter's graduation.  One of the very difficult times I have here in Okinawa, is finding even the right foods to cook.  Japan is second under the US for pesticide use and it is difficult to get anything organic.  I just buy, cook, and pray.  I will be praying for your family during this difficult time. 

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Hi Everyone, I am just so emotionally spent I don't know what to do with myself. I saw the social worker today and she tried to help me strategize how  could manage my stress level when I go back work on Monday. I felt more like crying than ever. It's such a daunting thought to be back to work when I feel so ill and so weak. When I'm at work, I never get lunch breaks or any kind of breaks--sometimes it's 4:00 before I eat my lunch and 7 before I leave. I get there at 7:30 every morning. I just can't do that right now. From there, I went across town to my PS for my exchange pre-op. She gave me a lot to read, plus four, yes 4 pages of things I can't eat/drink/take two weeks prior to surgery, includng stuff I've never heard of  not being able to ingest before surgery, like Chinese food, cauliflower, broccoli, black mushrooms, fcertain fish, and walnuts!

    My oldest son, who's graduating from 8th grade next week was supposed to receive two awards this evening at a special "invitation only" awards ceremony at school. The teacher emailed me to come, and we stayed for the entire two hours and he was never called up. The ceremony ended and Adam just sat there, the only kid in the auditorium with no award. He was totally gutted!  This is the same kid who had such a bad time with bullying at school last year (because he's on the autism spectrum and kids were mean and beat him up) that he stopped going to school altogether from last April until this past January. We just got him liking school again, and now this!!! I was hoping I could see the awards ceremony because I will miss his graduation--my boss won't let me have the morning off to see him graduate next Wednesday.

    Tamotar. sorryabout your TE experience--I feel I'm having a similar  problem. My skin is stretched so tight over my TEs that I have started to get stretch marks and they hurt all the time. My port/cath is also swollen and sore. I had to place a gauze pad over it today because my shirt on it made it hurt. If I didn't have to go back to work sosoon, I could have had both problems taken care of on Friday, but because of the mean spirited people I work for, I have to wait another month in pain.

    And yes, I worry about my cousin, who will probably die and leave her little girl motherless because her own mom and sister won't donate a kidney. I am just so disgusted and sickened by that side of my family. I wish there was something  could do, but being an anemic cancer patient doesn't make me a good candidate even if I was a match.
    I think I am going to call my PCP and ask for antidepressants because I am truly about to gooff the deep end!

  • TerriJo
    TerriJo Member Posts: 25
    edited May 2010

    I started taking Tamoxifen on May 1st and so far I have not had any major SE's.  I have had a few times when I have gotten hot and the little hair on my head has gotten all wet.  The Onc gave me a print out that discussed the side effects and what drugs not to take while on Tamox.  There is a section called Bottle of Tamoxifen on this site that has good information about CYP2D6 and foods that can be harmful or benifical while on Tamoxifen.

    Thanks for the recommendation on the cookbooks by Ms Katz and the recipes that you all have tried.  I will look for the books this weekend so I can try these recipes out, they sound really good.

     It has been almost two months since I finished with the Chemo and now my eyebrows are falling out - 3 hairs on the left and 5 on the right brow.  My eyelashes are also starting to go.  When will the effects from the Chemo stop???

    TerriJo

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