March 2010 Chemo Start

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  • marigunn
    marigunn Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2010

    Just back from my last AC treatment, so I've hit the half-way mark!  I'll start 4 taxotere treatments in three weeks.  I was incredibly SE-free from the AC (except for the hair loss!), so I am hoping for a similar experience with taxotere.  I thought I would be through with the self-administered neupogen injections with this last AC round, but the onc says this will continue with taxotere.  Thankfully, this is not a major issue!  Best wishes to those Marchers still in treatment!

  • JLLG
    JLLG Member Posts: 27
    edited May 2010

    I have been lurking for weeks.  I am all done chemo...2 treatments short.  All the doc's involved agree that the risks for me outweigh the benefits.  I have had such a terrible time.  Everything that could go wrong with chemo, went wrong.  It has taken me over 2 weeks to become hive free, my platelets are still low, cellulitis is still hanging on......In an out of the ICU has been not fun.  Heart problems still linger......but should get better with a little time

    I start rads on the 25th.  Got tattooed today.......

    Wishing you all peace and wellness.

  • marilyn7
    marilyn7 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    I just spent 2 hours going through insurance EOBs, co-pays, HSA, etc!!!  I think I'd rather have another round of chemo.

  • marilyn7
    marilyn7 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    Janice - I'm so sorry you've had such a time.  You will be leading the way on the rads, so keep us posted.

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited May 2010

    Janice - I am so sorry!  It sounds like it was probably for the best considering the problems you have had.  I have never been in the ICU but I would guess that it is scary ... "no fun" being a serious understatement!

    So tattoos already?  Refresh my mind are you doing TEs?

    Hugs, Charley

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited May 2010

    Hugs Janice.  You have had a rough time.  I hope rads is much easier.  Please keep lurking and checking in ... you are part of our merry Marchers.

    Okay, hopped off the cranky truck, feeling better, get a week of normal, then #5.  The next one is the day after my 26th wedding anniversary and right before the long memorial day weekend.  So at least I will have 2 days to recuperate and not worry about making it to work.

    Congrats on new jobs and job interviews!  Landing my job just made a huge weight lift off.  Even though it hasn't been easy working full time at a new job and going through chemo, I'm so glad I have work.  For me, it is a great incentive.

    I'm off to a charity black tie event tonight.  Will be wearing my flirty red bob -- haven't worn it yet, so it will be fun to go as a "different" person.  My friends know and are looking forward to it.  I've found that I've become so much more comfortable with what is going on right now and almost dare people to say something different.  Hah.  I can deal with it.  Take that.  Okay.  So maybe not totally off the cranky truck yet.  I'll blame the chemo.

  • JLLG
    JLLG Member Posts: 27
    edited May 2010

    Hey there Charley!  The tattoos are reference points for the radiation.  I received 4.  All they are are black dots.  I have 2 on the left side of my breast, 1 on my right rib cage, and BEST of all, 1 right in the middle of my chest....it resembles a HUGE blackhead!  I will always have to wear some sort of makeup to conceal it if I wear a shirt or blouse that is open in the front....oh well.

    I am so happy that you are plugging along.  Keep the faith and peace to you and yours.

  • marilyn7
    marilyn7 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    INSOMNIA!!! I had such a GREAT day on Saturday, that I threw caution to the wind last night and went to sleep without any medical aid (Ativan) and here I am 4:30 wide awake. Also remembered that I hadn't taken my stool softeners that I'm supposed to start taking the weekend prior to treatment (to avoid GI issues).  After tossing and turning, I gave up the ghost, came downstairs, had 1 bran muffin, 2 colace, one Ativan, checked my email, facebook, and now ready to give sleep another try.  

    What does everyone else do about sleep issues?? 

  • lorrhaw
    lorrhaw Member Posts: 751
    edited May 2010

    Marilyn - sorry about your night of bad sleep.  I was taking Lorazapam (sp?) for a couple of months which they say is just like Ativan but I finally had to stop because it seemed to be triggering cluster headaches  For the last week or so I have actually been doing pretty well on my own which I hope continues.

    As far as the GI issues goes I finally decided to take the "Activa challenge" that they advertise on TV with the special yogurt and I have to say it seems to be working.  I have never been a very "regular" person and the issue is now much worse so I am happy to say Activa is working for me.  Not sure how effective it will be during an actual chemo week when all the meds really slow/stop things but for now I am now an Activa fan.

    Hope you got some sleep.

    Hope everybody else is having a good SE free weekend.

  • julesgg
    julesgg Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2010

    i have not posted for quite some time...i've had so much other stuff going on besides dealing with this lovely chemo that i haven't even been online to read much either...

    i am taking TAC for 6 treatments...one treatment every 3 weeks...including a neulasta shot the day after each treatment...i just had #4 last tuesday...thank God i am over halfway done...it seems like each treatment the se's hang on another day or two longer...and are a lot worse...i just pretty much try to sleep it off...i am a total zombie...also, the more neulasta shots i get, the worse the bone pain seems to get...i didn't notice it too much after the first 2...and that awful taste that you get in your mouth when they flush out your port - my mind keeps playing that taste over and over in my head and i can't get it out...i was hoping all 6 treatments would pretty much be the same, but to me, they are getting worse...i am just thankful i am almost done...

     thankfully, i don't work...but i can never talk my sweet hubby into going out and doing anything on those days when i'm just glued to the bed...he very much has cabin fever by the time i feel like doing anything...my treatments are on tuesdays...after the first one, i only had one day that i felt bad...thursday...but after the 2nd, it was 3 days...after the 3rd, it was 5 days...after the 4th its running about 5 days as well...but i just ache all over...food - eh...i've been living on saltines and dry bread...tried chili last night...nope...my hubs has a roast in the crock pot today, so we'll see if that tastes ok later...

    i hate this whole laying around doing nothing...its not me...and by the time i feel like doing stuff, it's about time for the next treatment, like its teasing you...OK, I'M DONE NOW...

    lol...jut had to let off some steam...this chemo sucks...i want to be done...i want my life back...i don't even care about my reconstructive surgery anymore, and could care less if i ever had it, but i already have expanders that they've been filling...feeling like crap all the time just takes a toll...

    thanks for listening ladies!... 

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited May 2010

    I'm there with you Jules! Last weekend was my bad weekend.  This weekend better but so tired and my upper body strength is zelch. So when I do anything I feel like I've been lifting weights. Just running a few errands tires me out. I don't like the laying around thing either!!

    So has anyone else had the watery eyes?? It is driving me crazy!  I have to have a tissue wherever I go and my eye makeup ... well what's the use of even putting it on?  I just hate having this great beautiful hair and haggy looking face ...   And my contacts seem to make it worse. :(

    Ok ... enough griping. Just thought I'd chime in with you Jules.  Cranky truck has not left my house yet ... and somehow I just got my hubby to go buy me some lipstick at the dept. store. (Hmm ... that is a first) So something is working for me!

    Hugs, Charley

  • julesgg
    julesgg Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2010

    charley, my eyes were very water a couple weeks ago, not near as much now...but you are right, as soon as you put the mascara on...out pours the tears and you've wiped any mascara and/or eye liner right off!...

    anyone have a nagging cough that won't go away?...i've had one for over a month now...at first i thought it was allergy season stuff...texas is having the worst season in like 10 years!...but it just won't go away...its sort of a dry cough, but sometimes i feel like i've got phlegm...weird...they did a chest xray last week but never said anything, so i'm presuming they didn't see anything that alarmed them... sometimes when i breath in, i also just have an uncontrollable urge to cough...nothing to do with post nasal drip or anything...?!...

    i felt better today and hope tomorrow to actually get out of the house!...i know i'll wear out quick, but just get me out in the sunshine or something!...

    night all! 

  • marilyn7
    marilyn7 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    That is what is so great about this discussion board - Watery eyes!!!!  I thought it was just me - or the pollen - or loosing eye lashes.   The past two days my eyes have been constantly tearing. I didn't even attempt eye make-up today.  Don't have a cough but do have a runny nose - I assume it's the lack of nose hairs.

     TAC treatment #4 of 6 tomorrow.  In a twisted way, I'm looking forward to it.  I'm always anxious until I know my port is working and my blood counts are good, then I kick back and enjoy the benedryl buzz. 

    Jules - hang in there! You are now more than halfway through. 

    Frosty - post pics of your cute red do.  I considered going red, but opted for the blond highlights.

    Hugs to all the March gals. 

  • barb_k
    barb_k Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2010

    INSOMNIA !!!!  I was having a hard time sleeping before !!! Now It is even worse. 2 hrs sleep at a time is max. Lorazapam (ativan) helped a little, but still did not sleep through the night, until they gave me ambian. But I'm afraid I will get addicted to it and will be in a pickle like my sister. She is finding out that all her meds are counteracting with one or the other. So  I only take it once in a while.

    Only one more treatment, then I am not sure what the plan will be. This 3rd one was a doosie. Low blood pressure, chest pain, headache, and lots of plegm in the throat only. No fever or sore throat tho. Just the nasty stuff.  But I think I've probably had it easier than alot of the rest of you.

  • ThereIsHope
    ThereIsHope Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2010

    Hello Everyone... I have a question.  I received my third of four chemo treatments last Tuesday.  After having relatively few SE's since beginning this process, I must admit that this one kicked me in the butt!  I have been on the couch pretty much since Wednesday afternoon.  I have absolutely no energy and when I do get up to do something, my heart pounds and I just need to go back to the couch.  It is improving, but I'm still so very fatigued.  Anyone else with this happening?  I am soon to be 62, so perhaps age has something to do with this.  I just need to know if this is normal and then I can just wait it out.  Anyone out there????  Thanks.  Karen

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2010

    Hi all you lovely Marchers,

    Janice hugs to you, I hope your platelets start coming good soon, and the other things that have given you a hard time improve soon now. Please let us know how you're going. Re the tatts - you'd think that if they're going to give us 4 tattoos they'd at least give us the choice of what they are - for example, instead of 4 black dots, how about 4 little blue daisies, or 4 little goldfish, I don't know, what do you think?

    Karen, it seems like number3 kicked quite a few of us in the butt, I've heard a few theories, but it seems that perhaps it's cumulative, although some go through without much of a problem. I was flattened for about a week, but now am resurrected,and feeling OK. 

    I'm off to taxotere on Monday. I'm a bit spooked by the 16mg of dexamethasone daily for 3 days, day before, day of, day after. Has anyone here used the cooling mittens or booties? I'm thinking of wearing thick socks, and plastic bags, and dipping my feet in an ice bath.

  • lorrhaw
    lorrhaw Member Posts: 751
    edited May 2010

    Karen - I think many of us are with you on the side effects getting worse the more treatments we have.  I breezed through the first 2 like nothing was wrong but the 3rd one kicked me in the butt also on days 3 and 4.  I pretty much spent the 2 days moving from the bed to the couch, didn't really want to eat and in general felt terrible.  My oncologist had told me that morning that by the 3rd treatment is starts taking some people a little longer to bounce back.  I was thinking she planted the suggestion in my head and my body responded but after reading what others have to say I don't think it was that.

    Hang in there.  Hopefully you will start to feel better soon.  BTW, I am 49 and in good health, other tha having cancer, so I'm not sure if age has anything to do with it.

  • ThereIsHope
    ThereIsHope Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2010

    Thanks, fellow Marchers for making me feel "normal" on this journey.  I am just not used to not being able to go beyond things, but cancer is so different than any other challenge I have had in life.  I'm not losing my positive attitude, but do realize that sometimes we just need to sit back and ride it out.  Here's to a good week for all of us!  Karen

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited May 2010

    Hello Ladies,

    Just checking in on you all - I like Janice will be beginning the rads soon - I go tomorrow for my tats,(hereandnow I'll ask about the goldfish or perhaps just a different color LOL)

      I have to tell you a great story that happened to me on Sunday.  I was having breakfast with my husband and girlfriend and this woman came up to our table and handed me a card with a bracelet attached to it and said, I see you are going through chemo this is for you.  It is a beautiful colored beaded bracelet and the card it was on tells you what color represents which type of cancer.  She left and of course I started to cry and my girlfriend (whom I haven't seen in a while) asked me if that happens a lot.  I told her people do ask me about my scarves and stop and tell me to hang in there, etc etc.  I just thought that was one of the nicest thing anyone could do.  So now, I'm going to a bead shop buying beads and going to make one myself and do the same thing and Pay it Forward.

    My best to all and I continue to wish you all the best. Hugs to ALL - Stacey

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited May 2010

    Oh yeah forgot

    The food thing - I see that most of you ate healthy food - me on the other hand, I ate junk food and during chemo I wanted healthy food like carrots, salad, broccoli etc. ect. - Strange I craved healthy and those who ate healthy craved junk.  Interesting. - Stacey

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited May 2010

    Hereandnow:  Thanks for sharing your boob wound story, but sorry you're going through it.  I did not have chemo this week, they held off for wound healing.  Did they ever do that to you?  Initially, they delayed my chemo start because of it.  This time I don't mind, I really want the wound to heal.  So i am now 2 weeks on anti biotics and continue to dress it twice a day.  Trying to walk more to promote blood flow.  Hope it helps. 

    Here's my new sogga (sp?)  I need to rest my arm from blood draws.  Last time they couldn't get it due to scare tissue.  And I can't use my right arm.  We are trying to see how I can get it drawn through my port.  I've been having it done weekly due to postponing of chemo and I guess it's too much.  I guess there is no "things as normal with cancer".  But I just wish I could be a "normal" chemo patient.  As for the food thing, I had not been eating so great before my diagnosis.  I have to agree with Stacey, now I want the healthy things.  The junk food tastes terrible! 

    I am also going to ice my hands and feet when I do taxol.  The nurse in my infusion center never heard of such a thing.  But to me it's worth a try to avoid those side effects. 

    Congrats to all for another week through treatments!! 

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited May 2010

    Watery eyes - check.  Blurred vision - check.  Runny nose - check.  Bloody clot filled nose - check.  No energy - check.  Oh my goodness.  The list just keeps growing.  It is so good to hear that many of you are experiencing the same things.  It does kind of sort of in a weird way make you feel NORMAL.

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited May 2010

    barb - I have had insomnia since my 2nd treatment.  I tried over the counter stuff but now I just take ambien every day.  Can only sleep for about 4 - 5 hours a night even with that.  Funny how I am so tired but can't sleep. Probably need the CR but I'm hoping with the end of chemo in sight maybe I won't need it after the next few weeks.

    Stacy - what a nice thing that happened to you this weekend. I, too have experienced so many random acts of kindness since this journey began it is really almost unbelievable.  It sure makes you have faith in the goodness of the human race. I too will want to "pay it forward".

    Kanye - Hope you heal quickly!

    Hugs, Charley

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2010

    Hi Kanye, my boob wound (don't know what else to call it), is pretty much healed now, it took 11 weeks. My onc kept asking if the PS wanted to delay chemo, but he said he preferred not to, and we did take fluid out of the TE, but not all. I have noticed that it took a backward step with each chemo treatment, but it's finally gotten there. Just a little dry skin on top which I am leaving alone, apart from a parafin dressing  which keeps it a little soft. Hope yours is getting better now, I am sure your walking is helping.

    hugs to all,

    Lisa

  • teemee
    teemee Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2010

    I haven't logged in in a couple of days and I decided I just wanted to complain about my list of symptoms. I am laughing -- seems like a lot of us are going through similar things this week!

    My whine list:
    sore throat, something stuck in throat
    pounding heart with hardly any exertion
    out of breath, feels like I spent all day in a chlorine pool
    drippy (not runny) nose
    watery, twitchy eyes on & off
    tired after one errand
    This is my new favorite. the sorest butt ever. I cry every time I have a BM. bloody--guess it's part of that same tube from mouth to anus, it could get really irritated too.

    stupid taxotere.

    OK, done now.

    {{hugs}}

    toni

  • Ana1973
    Ana1973 Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2010

    And so it begins....I took the first two steroids for my last chemo treatment. Last chemo is tomorrow at 2pm. Everything I do to get ready for my chemo is done with a certain amount of joy...last time I'll have to pack my chemo bag, last time I'll pack my snacks, last time for these pills.

    Hereandnow- My chemo Tx is Taxotere and Cytoxan. My Onc didn't want me to use the mittens or ice my feet so I did find a way to keep those areas as cool as possible while in the chair. First, that room is always cold so I wear flip flops and keep my feet exposed...no blanket or socks. As for hands, as you may have read, chewing on ice helps with mouth sores and the metal taste, so I would make sure to hold my ice cup and alternate the hand I use to grab the ice...this keeps both hands nice and cold. It has worked very well for me. I have had no nail changes on my feet or hands. As a matter of fact my nails are long and strong.

    Yesterday I went to the "Look Good, Feel Better" class...Wow! The products they give you are incredible. I could never afford these types of goodies! Chanel, Estee Lauder, Bobbie Brown, Elizabeth Arden. My step-sister went with me and we were cracking up when it came to the eyebrow portion. I just couldn't get it right not to mention the brutal hot flash I had (I'm 37)....but we were the only ones laughing. Everyone else seemed to keep to themselves, like they really didn't want to be there. I was really hoping that the laughter would be contagious. If you haven't gone to this class I highly recommend it....so many wonderful goodies!

    Ok, the steroids are taking effect...time to clean! Hugs to you all :)

  • Yeshua4Me
    Yeshua4Me Member Posts: 77
    edited May 2010

    Teemee: The whole BM thing is a bummer. I experienced it after my first chemo. I couldn't believe how stopped up everything was or how PAINFUL. I have not had it since and this is why. Right after everything started working again (back in March) I started eating a bowl of oatmeal and 2 pieces of whole wheat toast EVERYDAY for breakfast. I have not skipped a day. When I had my second chemo, everything in the BM department kept working normal (even during and after chemo). I continued with the oatmeal and during my third chemo the same thing happened~everything worked normal. I take no laxatives or stool softeners or anything like that. BUT, my first chemo I was downing laxatives and stool softeners like they were candy! They didn't help me. I went 10 days without a BM (during first chemo) and when it finally started working again it was so painful that I thought I was going to die! Oh, I do get tired of eating oatmeal everyday but then I remind myself why I'm doing it! Anyway, that's my story and what works for me.

  • marilyn7
    marilyn7 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2010

    Kayne - I ALWAYS get my mid-cycle blood drawn through my port.'

    Toni/Yeshua - I take Colace stool softeners 2 pills morning and 2 pills at night every day every day - starting the day before! The difficulty is to know at exactly which point in the week to stop taking the stool softener before the constipation turns to diareah. 

    I had #4 or 6 yesterday and doing well. We cut down on my steroids to avoid an emotional crash as I come off the Decadron later in the week.  However I missed the general feeling of well-being last night that the steroids provide.  Oh well, I have to pay the piper either way. I think I'd rather have the first few days up-beat while I don't have any symptoms and then get the weepiness when I feel lousy - the two just seem to go together.

     OK ladies - I'm off to my booster shot (Neulesta).  I quick and easy visit.

     How may of us still have chemo treatments left?? 

  • barb_k
    barb_k Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2010

    Charley: I feel pretty dumb but what is CR?

    ANA: I only have one treatment left of Taxotere and Cytoxan. My nail beds are fine and my nails are pretty strong. Did not do Ice or anything.

    Marilyn7: I agree with the stool softeners etc.There is a fine line when to stop a;nd not get Diarrhea. My firsts time was just awful. I had had the ct with barium and was constipated from that and they (onc) told me not to worry that I would probably get Diarrhea  with the chemo. Boy was I miserable. Did every thing I could think of to get it going then went to the point of bleeding and had to do everything to stop. So now it is stool softeners,  and I also do probiotics. works great.

  • lorrhaw
    lorrhaw Member Posts: 751
    edited May 2010

    I posted this a few messages back but in case it got lost I wanted to let everybody know that I have had really good luck with Activa Yogurt as far as helping with the constipation problems.  It is the yogurt with Jamie Lee Curtis on the commercials and they call it taking "The Activa Challenge".  I have never been very regular but since eating the Activa for about 10 days now things have really improved.

    Hope I don't sound like a spokesperson for Activa, but since it works I wanted to let you guys know in case it helps somebody else.

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