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  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    Jan: Good luck on Monday.  I will be thinking of you and praying.  I am on Day 3 and so far no really SE.  Alittle heartburn, and fatigue but nothing worse than what I've had before chemo.  HAve a great rest of the weekend.

    Barb

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

     Hi Ladies,  Day 3 and still no real side effects!!  I feel really lucky.  Woke up this morning around 2 with some heartburn.  Took an anit nausea pill and tums,(wasn't sure if it was my stomach or not so I decided to try both),  Called the doc this morning and they said it's from the steroids.  I'm not complaining though.  I was alittle tired this afternoon, but no bone pain or anything like that.  I am going to start taking the B6 that Day recommended so that I can get through my last week at work.  Hope everyone has a great rest of the weekend.

    Barb

    Welcome Summer:  Sorry you have to join us, but it is a great group.  

  • JennyB100104
    JennyB100104 Member Posts: 237
    edited May 2010

    Day, it's too early, I think. You might start noticing hair loss around the 2-week mark.

    My hair loss update:

    I think day 12 was the day I noticed a few strands coming out when I pulled. Every day, it was a bit more.

    Day 17: This is it. I had a function today and I survived it, but my friends sitting on either side of me kept brushing off hair. Hair kept falling into my eyes. I tried like crazy just not to touch it at all. Tonight, I'm pulling big chunks out. It's freaking my family out, making me crazy, and I have obvious bald spots.

    I'm actually handling this with a little more panic than I thought I would. My husband is going to give me buzz after the kids are in bed. The wig lady recommended a 1/4 inch cut--she said a buzz might cut my scalp if there are any sores, etc. But at this point it looks awful and it's driving me crazy and I need to do *something*.

    I'm so scared and sad about how frightening I'm going to be looking for the next several months. The threads about hair never growing back after Taxotere aren't helping at all.

    I guess I was more attached to my hair than I thought.  :(

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited May 2010

    JennyB   Your hair doesn't grow back after Taxotere???  That is the first I have heard of that!  NOW I'm going to have to ask again..when the nurses in the chemo lab told me what to expect ...they said your hair will grow back probably with a different texture but didn't say anything about not coming back at all... 

    Hair stuff ..The gals at the wig shop told me if I cut my own hair ...not to shave it ..use  number 2 clippers.. they said that your scalp actually gets more sensitive when you shave it all off...

    I too am scared about how I will be looking ...We have know our hair our whole life..its again part of who we are as an individual..and the bald lady is the cancer lady...that freaks me out too its going to be the constant reminder of the big C, right now the only time I am really reminded is the doc visits..my head has started to itch a lot..I think it is getting ready to start falling out.

    I am right there at the same junction in this weird reality we have bee put in..as you are Jenny B   I am very attached to my hair too!.

  • DancerMel28
    DancerMel28 Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2010

    JennyB & Sacphotomum - Hi I started TC April 30th (so have been checking both april and may threads) and am on day 16 now. I too am having same issues with hair - I didn't think it would really affect me so much but am on a bit of a downer today as last night it was just falling everywhere!!  I reckon I only have about a third of my hair left - bald spots are appearing but I can still sort of cover it but I know myself that they are there. So when people say to me - "Oh but you can't notice it" - I get so defensive as I know they are there and that my hair is not MY hair anymore. 

    *sigh* must try and snap out of this funk - I keep thinking now I get to wear my beautiful scarves. Laughing

    Oh and from what I've read about the taxotere - there is a rare(ish) side effect that hair either takes a long time or doesn't regrow after it. My Onc didn't say anything about that to me - only found out through reading these threads so am hoping that it is on the rarer side fo the possible SEs.  I think it comes back to the 'it affects everyone differently' and it's too hard to predict exactly what may happen as our bodies are so different.  Here's hoping it all goes to plan hey?

    Bye for now,

    Mel Smile

  • swolfram
    swolfram Member Posts: 6
    edited May 2010

    Just wanted to wish you all well. I was diagnosed 10/1/09 and had a lumpectomy and then a re-incision as I didn't have clear margins the first time.  I had radiation followed by chemo (taxotere and cytoxan...four treatments)l  I finished on March 16.  If I can offer any advice, it is to take your nausea meds as prescribed and to drink plenty of water.  I did lose my hair on the 12th day of my first treatment.  My ONCON score was 31,  I did lose 23 lbs. 

    I had a stroke at age 57 and was diagnosed with breast cancer last October 1.  I had a mammo on 3/30 after chemo and it showed no cancer. 

     My hair is just beginning tp sprout...thank goodness...still no hair on legs, under the arms, and etcl

    Keep the faith...you can do it. 

  • JennyB100104
    JennyB100104 Member Posts: 237
    edited May 2010

    Sacphotomom: Here's the link where some of the ladies were talking about their hair not growing back after Taxotere. I don't want to scare anyone, but it's on the biography forum here on the site:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/23/topic/701423?page=14#post_1832147 

    This is so tough, isn't it? Ugh. :( Please keep me posted on how you're doing.

    DancerMel, I'm just ahead of you--my first TC was on April 28. Isn't it the strangest feeling? It feels like it's no longer YOUR hair, like you're wearing a hair piece or something. The consistency and feel are completely different... So strange!

    Swolfram, thanks for checking in with us. I'm glad your hair is growing back.

    Hair update for me: Last night (day 17) I started combing my fingers through my hair. In about 10 minutes, I was 95% bald. I have blonde hair, some really light natural platinum blonde mixed in with darker blonde, dishwater blonde, light brown, and a few grays. The grays and the darker blonds &  browns fell out, leaving the platinum blondes. They're so light they look fake! I look like I have white/blonde hair, like when I was three years old. I wonder if that's happened to anyone else--one color being more persistent than the rest!

    But I look like a very old, very sick woman, if you ask me. I don't really know what to do with the stragglers at this point. My husband is refusing to cut them for me...I think he finds them fascinating.

    This is the weirdest thing I've ever been through, hands down!

     

  • juliebed1
    juliebed1 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2010

    Hi All, 

    I am a new member of the starting chemo in May group. I start my first of four rounds of Taxotere on Tuesday May 19 and I am fighting the urge to run and keep running. I will be receiving Neulasta for 5 days after the infusion and I am also worried about that!

    Thanks for giving me a place to vent!

  • njbhwgirl
    njbhwgirl Member Posts: 295
    edited May 2010

    Hello All: Been  a few days since I've been on boards. Had first treatment last wednesdsay and all was good until yesterday. Feels Liked I tanked.. stomach and dizziness problems. Went to bed rest of day. Today I feel like a balloon is on my head and totally fogged out. No joint pains just horrible foggy head thing going on.  Anyone else feel like this. I hope this goes away before I go back to work tomorrow.

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited May 2010

    Hi njbhwgirl! I've been waiting to hear from you. Sounds like you're doing well. It's seems like  most people tank on day 4. I feel like that was my worse day too (days 4 an 5) but really all I had was fatigue so I'm extremely grateful. I took the entire week off from work just because I didn't want to push myself not knowing what was going to happen to my body. I will be returning tomorrow. It will be nice to get back. Day 6 and doing well.

    Jenny: Thanks for the hair updates. I know it's stressful but you have a good sense of humor about the whole thing. You're the pioneer of this group so you're our glimpse into the future.

  • JennyB100104
    JennyB100104 Member Posts: 237
    edited May 2010

    Hi njbhwgirl, Yes, I felt that way, too. I had my first TC on a Wednesday and the weekend was really tough. Monday was pretty bad, too (low energy, dizziness, felt like I was going to faint all day), then I started feeling better on Tuesday, and every day got a little better from there. Hang in there! big hugs,

    Jen

  • CTherese
    CTherese Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    Hi, Today is day 4 after my first TC treatment. Yesterday was pretty good - some tummy problems and occasional hot flash and fatigue but, all in all, not a bad day. Today (day 4) I awoke with a bad headache much as I would feel with the flu - it hurt most when I moved my head. Ibuprofen helped. My gut hurt a lot too.  I am still in a fog but feeling much better now. If this is the worst it gets, I can handle it!   The world feels quiet and I am fighting the urge to curl up and go to sleep - I don't want to lose a beautiful Sunday! 

  • jan-m
    jan-m Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2010

    Hi everyone.. glad you are all doing as well as can be!!  It's all very strange eh!!  I feel like I'm in some sort of science fiction movie being experimented on Foot in mouth I had my first session on tuesday, thankfully with no adverse reactions!  Day 1.. I surprisingly had quite a bit of energy, but got some heartburn and a touch of a headache that night. Day 2, I crashed and burned & was very flushed in the face.. I pretty much slept for the next two days, could hardly keep my eyes open.. especially on Day 3. Day 4, I started to come back to the land of the living.. I was awake and functioning.. sort of.  I will be happy if the rest of the sessions go like that (crossing my fingers)!!  My youngest daughters highschool graduation is happening on the 28th of May and I am so hoping that I don't lose my hair until at least the 29th.. (that is 18 days post chemo though) I am worried that I may have to go to such a big event so soon after or during my hair loss Frown Guess I will cross that bridge when I get there! :) 

    Good luck to anyone who is having chemo this week.. I wish you all the best!!

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited May 2010

    CTerese and njbhwgirl  Day 4 of TC that is when I took the 2 Norco my head hurt so bad.. and that night I took the 1/2 Ativan put me to sleep. the next day I felt good again.back on only  Tylenol. that was the only thing I could do with the headache  . Tuesday is my next TC and I am going to take the Norco before the head ache starts this time to see if I can be preventative...

    Juliebed   We all have felt the anxiety of the wait before the first treatment..Did your Onc give you some Valium? If not ask for some right away!  it really does help to ward off the fear and the fear of the unknown ...read back to the beginning of this forum and you will see how we all coped with it...it is just horrible waiting to begin. This group of gals are wonderful ..don't feel like you have to hold back it feels better to get it out ..because once you express it you will begin to relieve some of the anxiety .

    ..

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited May 2010

    njbhwgirl, have you had your blood pressure checked?  And are you taking Decadron after your treatments?

    I had my first treatment on a Monday, and had a lot of dizziness the following Saturday, Sunday and Monday.  On Sunday I really thought I was going to faint, so I went to urgent care and found out my blood pressure had dropped to something like 92/58.  My onc told me it was due to the abrupt withdrawal from the Decadron.  It may be possible to taper off  more gradually next time if you are not having problems with nausea.

    I read a little about the Taxotere causing permanent hair loss - I had Taxotere, so I was a little worried about that - but it seemed to me from what I read that those affected often had recurrent or metastatic cancers, and the dose can be higher for these patients.  My understanding is that early stage breast cancer is usually 75 mg per treatment, but it can be up to 100mg for recurrent or metastatic.  (Disclaimer - I have no statistical evidence to support this theory!  It's just a theory.)  The number that seems to be quoted a lot is as many as six percent may have a permanent hair loss problem, but patient groups are not broken out by what dosage they received.

    I really feel for the women who have been affected.  It seems to me we all think, when we are first diagnosed, that anything is acceptable as long as we don't die.  But then if we are fortunate and the danger of dying recedes, we realize that BC leaves us all with losses, and some are harder to take than others.

    It's certainly legitimate to ask your onc about the issue, and find out what your dosage is.

    I finished chemo in January, and my hair is about an inch and half now.  It doesn't seem to be growing very fast, but it's thick.

  • TriciaB
    TriciaB Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2010

    Hi ladies. Today, 13 days after first AC infusion and 1 day before my second, was Side Effect Onset Day.  I'd been breezing along telling everyone that I had skated by the first infusion with no side effects when today was weakness, fatigue, nausea, vomiting and even hair loss!  Don't know what gives with getitng bad nausea 13 days after infusion.  Anyway, I am feeling better this evening (after spending the day in bed).  As for hair, just strands are coming out (like Jenny's was at first) but may have it cut off (by Twyla of Fantasia Hair Salon where I purchased my wig) this week.

    JennyB, so sorry about what you are going through but thank you for giving voice to how emotionally wrenching it is for us to lose our hair and look sickly.  Please keep the faith.

     I hope all of you brave souls had a better day than I did. I hope we all have a better day tomorrow.

  • ClaudetteK
    ClaudetteK Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2010

    Hi everyone, I start my first treatment tomorrow 5-17-10 of T/C X4.  I had a bil mx on 4/19/10 and have recovered well. My stage is early but the grade is 3 and the OncoType DX came back 30, thus chemo...   I cut my long hair to the nape of my neck and donated it to Locks of Love and have my medicinal arsenal ready.  I am anxious and tightly wound about chemo tomorrow, but hopefully I can relax and calm down a little tonight once all my little ones are asleep.  Anyone doing chemo with small children at home to care for?  I have four aged 7, 6, 3 1/2 and 2yrs.  We have hired help and placed the little ones in day care until 5pm to help me handle the fatigue soon to come.  Hopefully this will go well and not scare them too much. Good luck to all starting this week!!

    Drim- thanks for answering my question. Will take the frozen peas with me tomorrow. I also liked the Claritin advice to off-set SE from Neulasta shot.  I also bought a really funny adult humor joke book on a whim to make me laugh out loud when needed.  Hope this is a good week for you.

  • fotopet
    fotopet Member Posts: 91
    edited May 2010

    Alice 100, ClaudetteK, and countryfrau - Good luck with tx tomorrow! Wishing you all a restful night's sleep.

    triciaB - Well, damn.  Bad enough to get SE's but to be lulled into thinking you were going to scate by this first round must really suck!  Hugs to you.

    Juliebed1 - I know the feeling.  I had it before surgery - took everything I had not to just say "f-it" and run away.   If I could have figured out a way to do it safely . . . 

  • fotopet
    fotopet Member Posts: 91
    edited May 2010

    I am headed off to the PS tomorrow at 8:30 to see if she is going to clear me to start T/C on Tuesday, Incision looks like it is healing well, but what do I know!! Taking my prilosec and Decadron with me just in case, so I can start it right away if she clears me to go. I am trying to steal myself for another delay but know I will be disappointed if I have to wait again. Waiting sucks!!!

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited May 2010

    Day 9. Today I felt really tired, the same as in the day of the treatment. Maybe it's also the fact that we had a severe hail storm in theafternoon and it was ... well, quite tense, as here in Oklahoma you never know if a hailstorm won't spawn a tornado on the spot - you figure it out only when the hail stones get bigger and bigger.

    Tomorrow I go to the Dr. office to get my blood tested. Wish me luck. Maybe I don't need Neulasta.

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    I wish everyone good luck who is starting tomorrow.  I know how hard it is but you are all strong women and can do this.

    I am on day 4 and really no side effects to speak of.  Alittle heartburn, but nothing that tums didn't help.  Also alittle achy, but tylenol took care of that.  Fatigue was alittle worse than yesterday, but I could still get some things done today that needed to be done/  I'm heading back to work tomorrow.  I hope I have enough energy to get through the day with my little guys. 

    Fotopet: Good luck at the PS.  I hope you get the clearance to start.  I know how much I hated the wait.  I hope you don't have to wait anymore. 

    Jenny B:  I am really sorry that you are having such a tough time dealing with the hair thing.  I'm alittle worried about feeling the same way when it actually happens.  I have been tracking your time table closely to decide when to cut my hair.  I have a program at school on the 26 which is 13 days post chemo.  I will just have to wait and see.

    I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.  Here is the east the weather was great, so it made for a nice weekend.  Have a great Monday.

    bArb

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    I wish everyone good luck who is starting tomorrow.  I know how hard it is but you are all strong women and can do this.

    I am on day 4 and really no side effects to speak of.  Alittle heartburn, but nothing that tums didn't help.  Also alittle achy, but tylenol took care of that.  Fatigue was alittle worse than yesterday, but I could still get some things done today that needed to be done/  I'm heading back to work tomorrow.  I hope I have enough energy to get through the day with my little guys. 

    Fotopet: Good luck at the PS.  I hope you get the clearance to start.  I know how much I hated the wait.  I hope you don't have to wait anymore. 

    Jenny B:  I am really sorry that you are having such a tough time dealing with the hair thing.  I'm alittle worried about feeling the same way when it actually happens.  I have been tracking your time table closely to decide when to cut my hair.  I have a program at school on the 26 which is 13 days post chemo.  I will just have to wait and see.

    I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.  Here is the east the weather was great, so it made for a nice weekend.  Have a great Monday.

    bArb

  • countryfrau
    countryfrau Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2010

    Today is the big day, and here it is 6 a.m. and I've been up a couple hours. I actually slept quite well. DH tried to keep ma awake last night cause I was falling asleep watching TV at 8pm, but he gave up around 9. I only woke up once before 4:15 a.m. so I guess the benadryl worked.

  • countryfrau
    countryfrau Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2010

    Well, today is the big day, and I slept pretty well considering. Thanks for the suggestions about a sleep aid...it really helped. I may have not slept a long time, but when I was asleep, I was SOUND asleep.

    ClaudetteK: I'll be thinking of you today as this is your first TC day, too. I go at 1:30 p.m. How about you? I'm glad you're here with us...you will find this the most comforting, informative site with so many helpful posts. How much more fearsome this disease must be with the 4 little ones. I want you to know that you, and all the Moms, are in my thoughts and prayers. I'm so glad you have the means of getting outside help for your family. Good luck today!

    bArb: Thanks for the words of encouragement. Glad to hear you're doing OK so far.

    sacphotomom: I read your post to Juliebed and felt the encouragement myself...that's the beauty of these boards. Little things we say to each other can be such a help to everyone.

    Thanks to all for 'getting me ready' to start my chemo. Not looking forward to it exactly (who is?), but let the show begin! Life is good!

    Jan

  • njbhwgirl
    njbhwgirl Member Posts: 295
    edited May 2010

    Goodmorning All:  Fog central reporting in.. or shall I say Novocaine alley.. Feel like just off novocaine. In work here hoping I make through the day. I need to save my days for when I really tank.

    thanks for all the tips.. glad I am not alone.. Going to call dr. and see if I can take anything for this horrible feeling.  Gotta run and try to do so some work.. will write later.. You all are the total best. I never feel totally alone when I have you.. THANKS>>>>>>

  • fotopet
    fotopet Member Posts: 91
    edited May 2010

    Barb - glad you are feeling pretty good.

    Countryfrau - glad you got sleep.  Positive thoughts coming your way.

    To all - The plastic surgeon cleared me for chemo so I am off to the races tomorrow!!

  • Alice100
    Alice100 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2010

    I start today.  I can't believe I actually slept through the night!  Good luck to those starting today with me and thank you to everyone else who has already started for posting what's happened so far.  

    I think I've got everything ready....but it's so hard to know how you will react. Sick or tired or maybe fine?  I've stocked up on everything I can think of that I may or may not need.  The worst part is not knowing and the waiting. I just want to be there and get this done!

    I am relatively quiet on the site, but I can't tell you how comforting it is to read all the posts and know that there are people going through the same thing as me.  Before I discovered this website, I thought I was going to have a nervous breakdown!

     Alice 

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited May 2010

    Alice, Klaudette and Countryfrau - my thoughts are with you!!! I know you guys will do great. It sounds like you are all prepared. Just think positively and you will sail through today. Then just take it easy as much as possible, drink LOTS of water, follow the great advice of others and you will be fine! Klaudette - I too am happy for you that you are able to make other arrangements with your kids during the day. I'm sure it must be extra hard to have the kids to care for but I'm sure they give you lots of love too.

    fotopet - all I can say is YAY!!!! I'm doing a happy dance for you! Good luck tomorrow.

    juliebed, snipinfool, and Summer - good luck to you on Wednesday. Hopefully this group is giving you inspiration that you will do well too!

  • countryfrau
    countryfrau Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2010

    Alice: Welcome! You have different drugs than Claudette and I (TC x 4), but we all are starting chemo today. And there are several starting tomorrow, too. So there are helps from people who are in all stages of tx. I, too, slept fairly well last night, but I can feel the anxiety coming as the time nearers. I come to these boards and read, read, read since that helps me to stay more controlled. Like you, before I found this site, I felt pretty alone despite all the great support I got from some friends, my family, and devoted DH. Come back often!

    fotopet: Thanks for the encouragement. I'm also glad (?) to see you've been cleared for tx...you know what I mean. Not so much glad for tx, but that your 'waiting' period is over. That's what I'm most grateful for..if it has to be, then let's get on with it.

    njbhwgirl: I'm sorry you're having these 'fuzzy' days. From what I'm reading it seems to be a fairly common occurance...but that doesn't make it easier, does it? Hugs and wishes for clearer days to come.

    Jan

  • countryfrau
    countryfrau Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2010

    DRIM: Our posts must have overlapped. Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. I've never drank so much water as I have these past few days...actually feel better having done so...or maybe it's the decadron. lol

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