Taxol and Nails
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I hope this is helpful to someone. I had heard that taxol can really be hard on your finger and toe nails. Even to the point of them falling off. Before I started the taxol, I asked my onc if there was anything I could do to avoid losing my nails and she said to sit during the infusion with ice packs on your fingers and toes. I did this for each of my 4 infusions and didn't have any nail problems other than discoloration. It was certainly uncomfortable but worth it in my opinion. The staff was happy to help me too. I know there is that ice cap that some use to not lose their hair, apparently this is the same premise.
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I'm using the frozen gloves and slippers during my 12 weeks of Taxol for the same reason.
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Lovemygrden - totally unconnected to the subject of this post!!
But do you know Murphy's Law of Out Patient Visits???
"If you do not bring an overnight bag with you to an out patient appointment you WILL be admitted" Corollary "if you arrive bag at the ready you will not be admitted, infact on occassion when an admission has been planned and acted on you will be discharged just as soon as you realise that no one is available to collect you!!!!"
I'm sure others have many similar examples!!
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I used the ice mitts for the neuropathy one gets with Taxol and I am convinced it works. I got just a bit of numbness on my fingertips at the very end, with it being worse on my right hand than my left. Since they had to but the IV in my hand (difficult veins) I couldn't use a "mitt" on my right hand, but used a "bootie". It didn't fit as well and wasn't as cold as the "mitt" on my left hand and would explain why I got a bit more neuropathy on my right fingertips.
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krcll, did you use the Elastogel mitts and booties?
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lovemygarden- I think it was Elastogel, but I'm not sure. It was the cancer center that had them. Also, I think Ainm meant that HER post about "Murphey's Law" was unconnected to the topic.
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krcll, you are probably right about Aimn's post -- the exclamation points "threw me off", so sorry! (edit coming up)
It's interesting that you;re in Norway because I was told by the company that I bought my Elastogels from, that oncologists in Europe use them far more extensively than oncs in the USA do. I personally suspect that there are 3 reasons why, all characteristic of the USA but not Europe:
(1) The nature of our healthcare system (insurance companies unwilling to pay for their purchase or use; as we all know, they grab any excuse to avoid paying for something and these are expensive... about $115 per pair)
(2) Fear of malpractice lawsuits (the oncs here may not want to risk a patient suing them years later if they should ever have mets that could be even remotely attributed to the use of the "cooling")
(3) Oncologists in Europe tend to focus equally on quality-of-life issues as on the treatment of the disease, but most of our oncs have the attitude of "focus on treating the disease, and deal with any SEs after they occur." Another example of the woeful lack of emphasis on prevention in the USA.
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I lost most of my toe nails after round 5 of TCH the big toes fell off a few months later. My finger nails also were in bad shape and I lost parts of most of those. I did go to an ethetist2 or 3 times and she did a wonderful job of cleaning and removing the dead stuff. Now a year later my fingernails are back but slow growing My toes nails are back OK except my one big toenail is still a wierd shape I had not heard of the ice gloves and might have tried it if I knew. All the best to you.
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Lovemygarden - sorry if I appeared rude - as krcll said I did mean that it was my post was totally unrelated to the thread (so I guess my manners - and use of exclamation marks - are in question:-)) - it was just that your Murphy's Law made me laugh and I wanted to let you know I appreciated it, but typically I messed it up - so sorry!!! And I was the cause of you having to edit (perhaps it's best I didn't see the post - LOL.)
To redeem myself let me say that my onc or his team never told me about nails being affected and the nails on both my big toes lifted and although they did not actually fall off new nails grew beneath them - it's actually quite awkward - at this stage the old nails are about halfway up the nail bed and I can't wait for them to 'grow' off!!!
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Hi all...
Just an opinion from someone who lives in Europe AND tried -- or attempted to try -- the above-mentioned paraphernalia...
Many people were using the cold caps (for hair) in my onc's practice. I asked her if I could also try one to prevent hair loss and she just giggled. Apparently, my combo of FEC and Taxotere causes complete hair loss in near all patients; in her 20-plus years of practice, EVERYONE on FEC/Taxotere lost their hair. She did, however, suggest the hand mitts, which I tired. However, every single one of my nails looks as though someone took a hammer to them -- and they have come away from the finger and are about to fall off. And although I did not use the booties for my toes, I have no nail loss -- but significant numbness and tingling in my left foot.
Hmmmmmm...
Just thought I would add my two centimes worth!
Good luck in whatever decision you make!
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Even though I didn't lose any nails or had any loosening, I did get pretty bad neurapathy. I had it in both fingers and toes. I didn't use gloves, though, as I mentioned I just used ice packs on my hands and feet. I then did acupuncture for the neuropathy which help tremendously. I would say it was totally gone by 4-6 months out.
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Were these gloves something that you purchased? I will have Taxol in the later part of my treatment and may want to give it a try. I am in Canada.
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I did weekly x 12 Taxol and had no issues with my fingernails, my Chemo centre uses ice gloves for Taxotere but not Taxol.
Towards the end of the Taxol one of my big toenail lifted and I developed an infection which oozed smelly stuff for weeks, I had oral antibiotics but not convinced they helped much. 6 months post Chemo as the nail was gorwing out I developed another infection, my Onc offered me antibiotics again but I didn't end up taking them and it did get better after a few weeks - well took about 10 weeks!
I did get numb finger tips and sore feet with the Taxol, finger tips resolved quicky once I finished, but feet still painfull 8 months later.
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I did 12 weeekly taxol. Toenails had alreasdy darkened and lifted a little from AC. They got sore for a few weeks on taxol, but no further damage. Finger nail beds also became sore around week 8; nail ends seemed to lift slightly, but did not discolour, or fall off. I am now more than 2 weeks PFC and nail beds are back to normal, not sore at all.
I had a few tingles in finger-tips early in the treatment, one chemo nurse gave me ice chips during treatment as they regularly do here with taxotere. I'm not sure if that helped or not, but the tingling did go away in the latter stage of my treatment.
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I thought that Taxol was hard on veins and so was administered through a port in the chest or arm. So it is surprising to hear your treatments were through an IV in the hand. and not through a port. Or were they unable to install a port owing to your difficult veins? Can you tell us why?
Also, your experience provides us with a classic comparison between an experiment (the left hand with the mitt) and a control (the right hand without a mitt). Although I suppose there is also the consideration that the IV was in the right hand. -
Firefighter,
I saw no one replied. Many of us Taxol gals did AC first. The A part (the red devil) is really tough on veins. I've got lumps and bumps all over my hands and arms where they have hardened. I've been told that will return to normal. I was told the Taxol would be nothing on my veins compared to that, but I don't start that part until Tuesday. I'll take the achy bumps...I knew I didn't want a port!
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