May 2010 Chemo

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  • CTherese
    CTherese Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    Redbarb, What is SE?  so glad to hear that your first fusion also went well!

    I forgot to mention - I too am having hot flashes.  I have been told that this chemo will push me into menopause and then I'll get drugs to keep me there. I have no idea as to what this means really: hot flashes and moodiness? What else? Will I suddenly start to put on weight? Age faster?  ??

    However, I am not thinking of these things that much right now. Mostly I am grateful that the side effects are manageable and even "easy."  I realized that all this may change over the next few days...  Will keep you apprised.   Good luck to you and please keep me updated!

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    CTherese: SE are side effects.  I was premenopausal prior to my diagnoses and my doc told me I would go into full blown menopause after the chemo.  I can't wait.  The hot flashes are so irritaiting.  Sweat shirt on sweatshirt off.  Hope you have a good day tomorrow.

    I picked up Claritin to take tomorrow because I am getting my Neulasta shot, does anyone know if you take it before or after you get your shot or doesn't it matter?  I asked my nurse today and she said she had never heard that before, so of course she didn't know.  I will check in the morning.  My appointment is at 10:00.

    HAve a good night everyone!

    Barb

  • Lee27
    Lee27 Member Posts: 69
    edited May 2010

    Hi RedBarb,

    Saw your reference to Claritin and could not help but jump in. I'm 3yrs out this month.  When I had chemo, they also had me take Claritin--and a few others as a test--to keep some of the bone ache down. It worked for me! I took it a day after that Neulasta shot. Heck, I still use it from time to time. Especially when the rainy weather sets in.

    Some people purchased those chillo pillows. I just kept warm and cool pj's beside my bed for the hot flashes. They'll subside over time.

    Hang in there everyoody. Thinking of you all.

    Lee 27

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited May 2010

    I had my first chemo - premed: benadryl, decadron, zofran and pepcid.  Then got Taxol followed by Herceptin.  All went well - it took about 4 hours to get them all in without any problems - YAY!!!  I'm drinking lots of water and feel good so far.  Started a journal too.  I'm trying to work 3 days a week as a nurse through all of this, so we'll see how it goes!  ((((HUGS)))) to everyone!!!!

    CT Therese - welcome.  Keep up the water - I've done about 2 gallons in the last day (1st chemo was today - TH), and I feel good!   So glad you like your wig!!  One of my friends told me my short haircut looked 100% better.  What does that mean??   LOL

    Day - Welcome to MAY!!!  We're glad you are here, and I'm sorry you had complications!   Have you started?

    GolferGirl - Do you play?  What's your handicap (besides cancer, LOL)?  I played before - and will again when this is done!  Glad you made it through work. 

    LauraM - YAY for a great wig!  I don't have one yet - just scarves.  And, laughs are always great!  :)

    JennyB - a topless wig - never heard of it - definitely need to look into that too!  Who's your favorite BB team?

    Frosty - thanks for the encouragement!!  Lord knows I think we're all scared and need to hear that we can do this!  I know I do.  ((HUGS))  and you March on!

    Countryfrau - WELCOME!!  Keep us posted on how you are doing!   Drink lots of water and laugh!

    Redbarb - I wish I could have had your xanax last night!  On top of chemo, I was at work, and had to tell a lot more people about the cancer, which was so emotional!  When you work with about 100 people (and not the same people everyday), it's hard to get the word around!!   SOOO glad it went good!  

    Leah - YAY!

    Kittycat - I agree with JennyB about an allergist - they can figure this out!!  Let us know!

    Irishtess - Welcome.  When is your first chemo?

    Snipinfool - Welcome!!!  I'm on your regimen, just reversed, and adding herceptin!  Keep my posted on how your AC goes, so I'l know!!  Today was my day 1, so far so good! 

    Sachotomom - Ginger gum - great idea - need to get some!  Did you find a wig??

    Beth - Welcome!!  I will be thinking of you today (now today).  I'm still up because I slept through chemo today, and then from about 4-8 when I got home!!

    Sunflower87 - thanks for reminding me to rinse!!  Sorry about your sores. :(  What is PMA?

    Lee27 - What's the Claritin for?  I think the Taxol can cause a lot of bone/joint pain - will it help with that and do you take it everyday?? 

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited May 2010

    Yeah, my reaction to Benadryl was 38 years ago.  I looked up some allergists in the area.  Hopefully someone can give me an answer. :)

  • countryfrau
    countryfrau Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2010

    Thanks for the welcome, Leanna9. This thread is wonderful! So many helpful hints from the strongest women I've ever met. Thank you so much!

    My port goes in today...just a little nervous about that. I'm not sure why, as everyone says it's no big deal. Just not the way I wanted to spend my 33rd wedding anniversary. I'm drinking, drinking, drinking, and following all the advice I'm reading. Getting ready for my first tx of TC on Monday. I'm glad I'll be premedicated with Benedryl and Decadron. The thought of a reaction is a little scary.

    Funny story.....at least my husband, Bill and I think it's funny. He has always been 'UB' (Uncle Bill) and I have always been 'AJ' (Aunt Jan) to our  nieces and nephews. Well, since my mastectomy, we now dubb ourselves UB1 and UB2....(Uncle Bill and UnaBoobie) So far we've only shared our little joke with our closest friends. We're not sure how the family would handle it, but we know that we have to keep everything in perspective...without humor we'd go nuts!

    Good wishes and hugs to all my new friends.

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited May 2010

    Hi everyone - I'm on day 4 since first TC and I feel pretty good. The only real SEs I have are a cold sore at the top of my lip (yuck) and I'm feeling just a little fatigued. I'm doing the cold caps and I finally get to wash my hair today so maybe that will refresh me. I think drinking lots of water really did the trick so I'm glad to see that you ladies are doing the same.

    Let's hope for an SE free weekend for all of us!!!

  • Irishtess
    Irishtess Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2010

    Leanna:  Thanks for the welcome ~ I start (ACT) a week today, May 21 (8 sessions over 16 wks, followed by rad, followed by hormonal therapy).  I'm an atty & will be returning to work next wk (BMX was on 04/14), but I don't have to tell anyone (friends, colleagues & clients all know what's going on & why I've been out this past month).

    Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences ~ it's a real help as I get closer to Day 1!  Have a great weekend!

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited May 2010

    Jan (aka UniBoobie) HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!! I'm going to steal your name after I have surgery!!  My husband's name is also BILL, so this is perfect!!  Thanks for a good laugh. 

    Good luck with your port.  Where are they putting it??  (or have put it by now).  I was going to say make sure you have some pain meds - but your probably have some of those laying around!!  (I've gone from vitamins, to an arsenal of pills I had to organize in a tupperware container where I wrote the name of all the pills in sharpie on the lid because I got tired of fishing through them and reading tiny labels!!!).  But, keep some pain meds handy, I had a good bit of pain where the actual port was inserted after the local wore off.  I will be thinking of your today - sending positive port insertion vibes!!!!! 

    DRIM - SE Free weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YES.  I feel a little 'off' this morning, but I just woke up and I took Ambien, Zofran and Oxycodone before bed... bound to be foggy this morning, right?  :)  YAY for washing your hair today!!   And, yes, drinking lots of water here too!! 

    Irishtess - I know you are probably glad and a little scared to finally be starting chemo!!  I couldn't wait once I knew what we were doing...  And returning to work.  Are they able to work with you... light case load... understanding if you need to be out.  Are you in the US?  Covered by FMLA?  My job has put me on FMLA, so I'm still working but covered if I have too many call ins (our policy is 4 in 6 months before you get written up).  I don't see how the judge can argue though... Dear Judge:  Irishtess will not be able to attend a pretrial hearing today as she has breast cancer.  Please reschedule this at your earliest convenience....  :)  Seriously, I hope everyone is understanding!! 

    Take care everyone!  ((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))

  • GolferGirl
    GolferGirl Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2010

    Hi All,  One week out from my first TC and doing great.   I did have one day (Day 4) of overwhelming fatigue, but otherwise its not been bad.   I do find some foods taste slighlty different, though.  But if that's the worst of it, then great!  I'm doing the cold caps, too, and one of the things they say to do is drinks lots and lots of water, so I have been drinking non-stop.   Sadly, just not the good stuff!

    Leanna9: I do golf but have a terrible handicap.   I was on the road for work most of last summer, so this was going to be my year to work on my game.    Well, that hasn't exactly worked out.   Hopefully, next year.   I was feeling sorry for myself when I joined this dicussion board.   I had just resigned from my league because of chemo conflicts but was still somewhat in denial, hence the name.  But, I fully plan to play my little heart out next year!

    Best to all, GG

  • JennyB100104
    JennyB100104 Member Posts: 237
    edited May 2010

    Good morning everyone! I don't know how y'all respond to everyone--I'm losing track! But to those of you who just had your first chemo, sounds like everyone is doing great! And I agree--stay hydrated! So important! 

    Claritin--after my first horrid reaction to Neulasta (severe back pain, felt like I was in labor), my nurse is having me start taking 1 Claritin a day starting the day before the Neulasta shot and continuing for a week. I really, really, really, really hope it works!

    Baseball--my 9-year-old son plays on a travel team, so we spend most summers traveling to different tournaments. It's going to be a little challenging this year with the hair/chemo situation! I'm just going to take it from weekend to weekend and he knows and understands if I have to stay home once in a while.

    HAIR UPDATE: I'm on day 16 after TC #1 today. My head feels completely different. My hair feels funny. I have a short haircut but no buzz...but my friends/husband say they can't tell it's falling out when they look at me. I'm having to sit on my hands not to tug it out. I know if I start, though, I'll probably be 1/2 bald by the end of the day.

    Ultimately, I can't believe this is happening so slowly. I keep thinking every night I'm going to wake up the next morning with 1/2 my head of hair on my pillow. But that hasn't happened! So today might be my last day with the hair God gave me...I just don't know! I'll update again tomorrow. For now, my wigs are still sitting on their stand, unused.

    Have a great day, everyone! Hugs,

    Jen

  • nanaof2
    nanaof2 Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2010

    Felt very achy last night. Came home early from work today.

    Sunflower, I'm with you, going for a wig this weekend. 

    Barb, one treatment down, happy to hear no complications!

    CTherese, glad your treatment went so well.  I am fighting getting in this water....

    All of you wonderful ladies, hang in there, have a great weekend!

  • Irishtess
    Irishtess Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2010

    Leanna:  I'm a solo ~ so friends & colleagues are covering cases for me.  The judges in my main county (where my office is located) all know what's up, & they're all great (no one is pushing me to do anything right now!).  One male colleague told me (this was the night before my BMX) that he hoped I'd do reconstruction because I just wouldn't be me without the big tits!  Apparently, he shared that sentiment with some colleagues (typical Jack!).  Until earlier this year, we had only 1 female judge, and she emailed me pre-surgery about someone locally who does nipple tattoos!  All things considered, I'm really fortunate, & glad we can laugh about these issues!

    Stay well, everyone!

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    Jenny B: I am with you.  I am having a tough time keeping everyone straight.  I'm going to have to start writing things down so that I can respond to everyone. Thanks for the hair update.  I thought we would lose our hair quicker, not so gradually.  This is good news for me.  I might be able to get through the end of the school year without wearing my wig.  I have to work with it alittle to get it to look the way I want it to look.  I have very thick hair so It puffs up on the top.  they said that it will not do that wants I lose my hair.  How short and thick is your hair.

    I am on day 2 and feeling great.  I had my neulasta shot today and so far so good.  I took a clairiton when I got home.  I wasn't sure when to take it so I took it when I got home.  I figure I will take it for a week and see what happens.  My nurse didn't know anything about the clairiton and didn't talk to my doc yet about it.  I have been drinking more water in one day than I use to in a week.  I was never a water drinker, boy how you can pick up good habits when you have to.  I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend with no SE.

    Barb

  • CTherese
    CTherese Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2010

    Hi Gals! Day 2 after my first TC infusion and also feeling good. I woke up flushed on the face and chest and with a wave of nausea but took one of the three nausea meds that was given to me and have been feeling great since. I even gardened for several hours on this beautiful Seattle day!  Also drowning in water. I pray you all are doing well and enjoy the weekend.  I am usually not a group type of person but I really appreciate being able to share and listen here. Thank you.

  • MsMarilyn
    MsMarilyn Member Posts: 125
    edited May 2010

    Hello Ladies,

    As you can tell by my screen name, my name is actually Marilyn, not very creative but it works...lol.

    I just finished up with my chemo on April 12th. So I know this thread really isn't for me but I just wanted to share this with you.

    It IS a hard road... but it CAN be done.  And I know you've all heard it before but it is true.  And please know that you're NOT alone on your journey, the ladies on this site are so friendly, helpful and we have tons of knowledge and personal experience we can share with you... so come to us that have been there before you.  Sometimes we can help.

    I've also created a group on Facebook called "Chemo isn't for Whimps!" 

    You can PM me anytime or find me on FB - msmarilyn@ymail.com  (I don't use that email for anything but FB so if you write me there... chances are I won't get it)

    Takke Care and God Bless,

    Marilyn

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    CTherese: I also woke up flushed in the face and chest.  Was alittle worried, but when I went for my shot they said it was from the steriod. 

  • ClaudetteK
    ClaudetteK Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2010

    Claudette : 5/17  T/C X 4wks then Tamox

  • ClaudetteK
    ClaudetteK Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2010

    I've read to ice hands and feet during Taxotere infusion.  Does anyone know how long this should be done? I know this is to help with neuropathy just not sure how much icing is needed? Thanks!

  • packjen
    packjen Member Posts: 281
    edited May 2010

    Hello Ladies,

    I have had a side effect that I wasn't expecting and wonder if anyone else has experienced this.  At day 6 after my first TC my hand (where they did the infusion) had a reaction.  The skin on the back of the hand got swollen, itchy and rather painful.  I went in and had the nurse check it out and she said it was my tiny veins reacting to the chemo.  She said next infusion they will need to do at the bend in the elbow instead of the back of the hand.  She basically said to do whatever I had to do to keep the skin from getting infected or blistering.  I have used some lidocaine cream she gave me and also some Manuka honey (an antibacterial) and covered the area with this thin bandaging tape she gave me called Tegaderm.

     Unrelated, this morning I woke up with a fever.  I think I have a sinus infection and am shocked how quickly my full sinuses turned into an infection.  It just took a few days.  I got some antibiotics and I have cancelled most of my plans to be out in public in large groups.  I will miss most of the end of year school activities, but I'd rather be safe.

    So, has anyone else had a reaction at the site of their infusion?

    Jen - day 9 and counting

  • packjen
    packjen Member Posts: 281
    edited May 2010

    Oh, one more thing I thought I'd mention since everyone is talking about being pushed into menopause.  One of the doctors on my 2nd opinion panel told me that chemo may make me stop menstruating but that doesn't necessarily mean I have stopped ovulating.  He said to make sure I use birth control until I have been tested and officially declared menopausal.  Good advice which I will heed.

    Jen

  • JennyB100104
    JennyB100104 Member Posts: 237
    edited May 2010

    Redbarb, I have very fine, very thin blonde hair naturally. My haircut looks a little bit like Kate Gosselin's (without that puffy thing in the back!), but it's thinner and flatter now than when I first got it cut a week ago.

    I have a function to attend tomorrow and I almost backed out because my hair decline has taken a sharp upward turn today. I don't know whether to go natural (will bald spot suddenly appear in the middle of the day? Will a gust of wind blow my hair into people's faces? eek!) or wear a hat or try one of my wigs...

    My guess: My hair will be gone by the end of the weekend. I could probably tug about 60-80% of it out right this second if I wanted to, but I just want it to last one more day for this thing I have to go to tomorrow... argh.

    Marilyn, thanks so much for checking in with us! It's great to hear from those of you who've gone through this before us.

    Jen, good point about menopause. I'm so sorry about your reaction & infection!

    Also, I had the red face/chest thing. I actually had a red rash break out over my chest that didn't disappear until 1.5 weeks after the infusion.

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited May 2010

    countryfrau  thank for the laugh today...that was great...love your names

    JennyB  OK I have lost less hair on my head then I do regularly....every morning I wake up and look at my pillow...nothing there...but my left arm is almost bald...go figure...Hat hair? yes that what they are called. they look funny but seem like it would help keep your head cooler in the summer under a hat!....Are you on your second round yet?

    CTherese  yup I had the flushed face too...and a red rash on my chest too, kinda strange they told me it was the drugs...

     Does anyone else's nails hurt...mine do only when I type..good thing I don't do it often

    Wig update..OK so I brought Brandy home from the Wigs R U ....yes that is the name of the wig shop!  ..I was having a really hard time because my normal hair is very thick curly...and most wigs are kinda thin and kinda straight...I found one that was very nice full but  the cut wasn't good..tried to find one that matched my own hair color ...but Brandy is lighter, just a tad, and has some streaks in in it..very short...I was surprised, I like the cut...after my hair falls out or gets thin they will cut my hair  for me and then trim bangs and such on the wig so if fits properly..I have only had bangs a couple of times in my life they always bothered me  and I would grow them out right away..but the wig has bangs . I was was thinking that it might help hid the fact if my brows decide to go away.....and the really long full wigs just looked fake on me...to glam, I'm not a glam kinda gal...

    Had my post Chemo appointment with the Onc she say that my next Cytoxan she will have them drip it even slower to see if it helps the headache. 

    I  kept an almost hour by hour of SE's ,what I ate, what I took for pain..emotions and what happened to me how I felt during the first 6 days... till I felt almost normal...it really helped the doc figure thing out for me ... we even were able to tell when my white blood cells probably tanked.

    I had the best work out today the best since my MX and.Chemo, was able to go the whole distance 4 miles walk and come home in a decent time...Whoopee  it felt so good ..lol just in time for my next Chemo round on Tuesday..oh not thinking of that this weekend...going to finish planting my garden and have a gin and tonic on the patio tomorrow. evening..looking so forward to that....

  • countryfrau
    countryfrau Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2010

    Well, the port-a-cath went in yesterday, and it wasn't as bad as I had anticipated. The only negatives were that the anesthesiologist had to stop the IV sedation during the procedure because I started coughing...so there was a little pain involved. Otherwise, as someone else said, I could just feel the pressure of what I assume were the surgeon's hands placing the port. Once the local wore off, the pain I had up to now was controllable with Tylenol. All in all, it was well worth it so that I won't have to be stuck in the arm for every blood draw and chemo TX....I have lousy veins on the left side!

    packjen-Your SE on your hand at the IV site sounded painful. Did they consider a porta-cath for you?

    Redbarb804 & Jenny B. Thanks for your posts re your hair loss. I'm still debating whether to have my head shaved or stretch out the no-wig time by letting it fall out naturally. I'm leaning towards the latter. I go for my wig on Friday (21st).

    Leanna9-Thanks for the tip about Pain meds after the port insertion. So far, I've only needed Tylenol, but I just got up a little while ago and the site is quite painful. I'll wait a bit to see if it lessens, and then I may take a vicodin if it doesn't.  He put the port on the left side, upper chest. I was surprised when the nurse said he might put it on the rt side..mastec side...so I was glad he chose the left!

    Chemo starts Monday. My onc didn't say anything about a neulasta injection. Is that shot routine for a low WBC count or do some oncs give it right away when chemo starts? I worked in oncology 20 years ago, but either I've forgotten everything I knew, or there have been just so many advances...I suspect the latter. Shoot! Twenty years ago they never heard of Triple Negative bc or metaplastic bc(not to be confused with metastatic bc). Bc was bc, and they didn't have the meds to control SEs like they do now.

    Well, you ladies have a good week-end...I'm going to stay busy so I don't worry about Monday. Your posts have really helped me keep things in perspective. Throwing support out to you all!

    Jan 

  • GolferGirl
    GolferGirl Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2010

    packjen - my onc told me the same thing about "chemopause".  Since I am ER+ and can't take the pill anymore, I asked my gyno about options.   She suggested an IUD.  I've been thinkng about it but figured I'd wait til after chemo to see if I still need it or not (I'm 43 so it could go either way).  Then my gyno told me that she has had ladies go through chemo and get thier period back years later.  She says in my age range the test to determine if the chemopause is permanent or not is not fool proof.  She wants me to get the IUD, but I'm just not sure.   Anyone else considering the IUD?  I should say its the non-hormonal IUD she suggested.

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited May 2010

    Day 8. No noticeable SE's. Just very slight pains now and then in my hips/thigh bones from time to time, perfectly controllable with tylenol - it's been a bad weather here too, rainy, so that might "help" as well. No mouth sores. No sinus problems. Still taking antibiotic. If I take a B6 in the morning I'm not even tired, I can function normally. Like sacphotomom, my hair seems to fall even less than normal. Maybe it's too early? Did you guys shave your legs since starting chemo? I was afraid to cut myself - normally I use an electric epilator, the one that pulls the hairs out, and didn't use it because I was afraid of infection, and sometimes the follicle bleeds if the hair was too strong. I thought it will fall soon anyway, so I'm ashamed to say soon I will be looking like a cavewoman if it doesn't start falling.

    Now, if you don't have SE's, and your hair doesn't fall, does it mean the chemo isn't working? I know, I know, it might sound stupid, but the question got stuck in my mind last evening and can't get rid of it.

  • Summer38
    Summer38 Member Posts: 253
    edited May 2010

    Hi everyone, sign me up! I am a 38 year old mother of 2 (diagnosed Feb 26th @ 37). I had a bilateral MX in April and I will be starting chemo on 5/19. AC X4 @ 2 weeks, followed by Taxol X4 @ 2 weeks, and then radiation.

    You have a great group of women here and I hope I can catch up and keep track!

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited May 2010
    Hi Claudette - I read that too about cooling the hands/feet during taxotere to help with the neuropathy and nail issues so I decided to try it. The advice I read was to use frozen peas so that's what I did. I just put the bag of peas on my feet w/socks on and stuck my hands (w/thin gloves - thicker when it got too cold - then thinner again) in a bag of peas. No one said when to start/stop so I just decided to start about 10-15 min before and 10-15 mn after the Taxotere. It's too early to tell if it worked at all but I am doing the cold caps so I figure the theory is similar. I've also read where others have said it was cold in the infusion room and they were wearing sandals and as a result their toe nails were fine. So I would not stress it - just do what you can and I'm sure whatever you do will help. You may also want to suck on ice cubes or ice pops during the T as well. GOOD LUCK!
  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    packjen: When I went for my infusion they wouldn't us my veins in my hands because they said my veins were too small and not straight so they used the bend in the elbow for my first infusion.  I 'm alittle worried becasue I know they dont like to use the same vein each time, so I don't know where they will go next.  I'm sorry to hear about your complications.  I hope you are feeling better soon.

    barb

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited May 2010

    sacphotomom: I am having the same problem with my wig. I have very thick hair and when I put the wig on it really puffs up in the back,  I have not lost any hair so they say that once my hair falls out that they wig will fit much better.  I'm hoping.  I hope you have a much easier time with your second treatment.  That was a very good idea to document all your food, reactions. SE so that they can figure out how to help you the next time around.  Good luck on Tuesday.

    Barb

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