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smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer

I searched for another thread on this but decided to start one. I've been tracing my ancestry off and on for over 10 years. By a total "fluke" I ran across my great-aunt's obituary in 1904, in Mendocino County. I found the cemetery and her headstone. I feel like I have reclaimed my great-aunt for our family. This was my push to join ancestry.com. My father was raised only knowing that he had one aunt, so imagine our surprise to learn that there were actually 12 children born to my great-grandmother.

I now have contact with two of my second cousins and I am thrilled! Is anyone else on here addicted to ancestry.com and the search for family?

Linda

Edited to add great to grandmother.

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  • Sphynx
    Sphynx Member Posts: 611
    edited May 2010

    Yes! I wanted to preserve all the information I was finding and ended up making a website for my family.  I have pictures of the gravestones, death certificates, our tree and other interesting things. My goal is to have stories about the people and their lives that I am collecting from my few remaining relatives.

    The fun part is that I am corresponding with people all over the world and finding things I never knew.  It's like preserving my little part of history.

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    Yea! Someone else who loves this stuff! I have actually found living relatives of my grandmother, my dads side, ones who have her maiden name. My moms family has been a brick wall. Birth records in Alabama and Mississippi aren't on Ancestry.com. That or I am doing something incorrect. I've found several other trees that are related to me. I love looking at the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census. The names are usually misspelled but it's fascinating to know that someone was talking to my relatives and recording their lives back then.

  • Sphynx
    Sphynx Member Posts: 611
    edited May 2010

    The census are great. Our family name is misspelled all over the place. What I like is finding a small piece of a puzzle. You hit a brick wall and then a little clue opens up everything.

    Many curious things pop-up. After writing down dates, I noticed that several family members died on the same day but not the same year. Also that a great-great-grandfather married his sister-in-law after his wife died young. Another relative had a heart attack at his brother's funeral and died a few days later.

    I get excited finding these things! My mother never talked about her family. I found a death certificate of 2 of her siblings and put the dates together. She had a brother who died at 9 months old, she was born 8 days later!

    Finding these things just makes me want to know more. I have tons of good sites if you want me to post them. It's much easier if your name is unusual. Is your's Smith? Ouch! Don't post it here if it isn't. You have to be very careful about privacy.

    What's funny is that getting BRCA testing is what got me started on genealogy. Now I'm hooked!

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    Yes, my maiden name is Smith. We can only go back to my great-grandfather Smith and then no one has been able to find his parents. My grandmother was from Germany so she was easier to track down, as the name was less common. My moms side is just giving me issues. My mom is 1 of 12 children, there being 4 sets of twins and 4 single births. I can't locate a single birth record even though my mom has shown me hers. Please post the sites you have used to track down family. I can use all the help I can get.

    I can go back into the 1600 and 1700's on one branch and the names of the kids are the same. When a child died young, the next child of the same sex would be given the same name. So the same name was used over and over which is confusing.

    I discovered that within 2 or 3 years my grandmother, dads mom, buried two daughters and had my dad. No one knows where one of the graves is.

    I love finding family. After I found out I am BRCA 2+ I wanted to find my grandmothers siblings and their family. I've located a few and hope to make contact soon.

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited May 2010

    yes, i spent about 8 months working on my family tree; so very fun and interesting. my greatgrandfather changed his last name from Stein to Steen...after arriving in the late 1800's from Germany.  i also fouind that i had a little sister that died at birth...she was 2 years younger then me.,  i highly recomment the searching; the records from the early days are actually quite good. haven't found anyone who died from breast cancer tho. *Cool all of my great grandparents came over from Germany, Norway, Englad. hmmm

    i plan to return to working on it later on..i found myself obsessed with it. hah

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    Cause of death of many people on my dads side is "stomach issues." Cancer was never mentioned so it could very well have been. I get my BRCA 2 status from my dads mom. My grandma died of breast cancer in 1956 and my dad is a colon, kidney and skin cancer survivor. My oldest sister is also BRCA 2+ and a 20+ year BC survivor and her daughter tested negative. My dad's aunt died of brain cancer and her daughter is a bladder cancer survivor.

    Our tree has sprouted in several directions and I can't keep up with all the hints. Right now I have 168 hints I need to review...YIKES!

  • Sphynx
    Sphynx Member Posts: 611
    edited May 2010

    I'm almost as obsessed with genealogy as I used to be with these boards.  Even though I'm BRCA- I found tons of relatives with breast, ovarian cancer and "women's cancer".  My oncologist says that was probably ovarian.  What is encouraging is that my dad's mother had breast cancer at 50 and lived to be almost 100. 

    We traced our family to Scotland which was a surprise.  I didn't have a clue. The naming convention is a hoot.  This is what I found:

    Scottish naming convention:
    * first son for the father
    * first daughter for the mother's mother
    * second son for the mother's father
    * second daughter for the father's mother 

     My father had 2 brothers named William, both living at the same time.

    Diana - did your family talk about your sister that died or did you find it from records?  My oldest brother and sister believe my mother had a baby boy that died young.  We were told that she miscarried.  If the baby lived full term, would there have to be a death certificate? 

    Linda - Here are a few sites that may keep you up all night besides your 168 hints!  It used to be all the sites were free.  Pretty crummy that most of many of my links are now for pay only.

    http://genforum.genealogy.com/
    http://www.veromi.net/processor.asp
    http://www.cyndislist.com/
    http://www.ayrshireroots.com/

    This is top reasons why names changed spellings from what I've read:

    1. Illiteracy
    2. Simplification
    3. Necessity
    4. Mispronunciation
    5. Desire to Fit In
    6. Desire to Break with the Past
    7. Dislike of Surname
    8. Fear of Discrimination

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    Thanks for the links! I've heard the same reasons on why names were misspelled on the census. Imagine going from house to house, farm to farm, in the heat of the day. By the time you asked the family their names and had to figure out 7 or 10 kids' names, you'd be tired and exhausted. Some people had heavy accents and couldn't be understood so guessing seemed to be the norm. I'm working on a tree for my husband's family. His aunt gave us nicknames for people and we've had to search through the 1910 and 1920 census to try and figure out their given names.

    I was told that unless there's a birth certificate, baptismal certificate or it's written in a family Bible, the name can't be considered correct. My grandmother on my dad's side was always called Mayme. On the census we found her name as Mary, Mayme, May and Mainie. I have my dad's birth certificate and my grandma's name on it is Mayme. On her and my grandpa's marriage license she wrote Maime. Unless we find a family Bible or her actual birth certificate we have to list her name as Mary, as children at that time were given their mothers name.

  • Sphynx
    Sphynx Member Posts: 611
    edited May 2010

    You mention a family bible.  That is another reason I got hooked on this.  One family member had the family bible and my cousin made copies of it for everyone.  I mean - just tons of hand-written notes and pictures that were going to be forgotten.  I scanned everything in my computer and started putting it in an on-line photo album.  Then I started the website and shared with my relatives. I thought it would keep everything in order and easy to find.  Just last night when I was trying to find some good sites, I noticed that many of my links are already out of date.

    You mention all the spellings of your grandmother and her birth certificate not matching her marriage license.  Same thing with my mother.  Her birth certificate is misspelled.  In school she was called something close and later, kept a shortened version to where no one ever even heard of her real name.  We have a couple of Mary Janes in the family and you find them with all sorts of variations of both.  Now for the last name, if you have a plural version of the name, I read that likely that was the original spelling.  

    If you are going back to 1600 and 1700's, you are doing fantastic!  I'm still amazed that you would have 4 sets of twins in a family.  Going to Ayrshire birth records, a relative has about 20 kids spanning 30 years.  I cannot figure it out!  I write the dates and think, no way is that possible although many of the women in my family had children in their 40's.  It's not twins since the birth dates are different.  Maybe many didn't live long?  And yes, they used the same name over again.  It's almost like a litter.  I know infant mortality was very low but it makes you wonder...

    It's nice to talk to others who share this fascination.  When I find a puzzle piece, I'm going to tell you guys!

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited May 2010

    I wish I were as hooked on genealogy as I am on these boards!  I've been researching my family hx half-heartedly for almost 20 years.  At first, all I had were family stories -- legends, I guess -- none of which had ever been corroborated by anyone.  "Why bother checking it out?", family members would say.  "Aunt Lena told us that, so why would we question it?"

    That worked until someone realized that Ellis Island did not exist (or wasn't a point of entry) until 1892, so none of my ancestors actually went through there -- despite their vivid memories of the place.  Oh, and Great-aunt Cora's story about her grandfather having been disowned because of a fight he had with his father, so he jumped on a ship and came to America?  All the names and dates are wrong.  Something's fishy.

    As for Ancestry.com...  I do like being able to see digital images of microfiche copies of the actual documents, even though legibility can be a problem.  I might never get to the archives in Salt Lake City.  Some of the Ancestry.com records -- like Census data -- that I thought were patchy and incomplete for certain years, turned out to list my ancestors, but under mis-spelled names.  Makes the searching more difficult, but once you realize what's going on, it makes the discoveries even more exciting.

    I guess what has disappointed me the most is people's willingness to toss their family trees out there, on line, without trying to weed out the errors.  So many of the on-line trees that contain my family lines are full of mistakes that have been copied precisely from other on-line family trees.  No, Great-grandpa Peter was not born in Illinois in 1863 -- he was born in Germany.  We have his immigration and naturalization papers to document his status.  He didn't even arrive in the U.S. until 1879.  And, half of Great-grandma Celia's children are from her second marriage, contrary to what the on-line trees claim.  That stuff has been frustrating, because it makes it harder to trust the information I haven't documented yet.  But, leads are leads, I guess.  Except, if I did give you some information and cite the evidence, and you do decide to put that information in your on-line tree, please don't list my full name, email address, and home phone number as your evidence!  Your tree already contains my mother's maiden name; what else do the crooks need?

    Anyway, I must be hooked a little; because we subscribed to Ancestry.com for 3 months last year, and then extended it to a full year; and now we've let it continue for another year.  Maybe some day I'll get off the boards (and FB) long enough to actually do something with it.

    otter

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    I joined for 3 months and I already know I'm hooked for a lot longer. There are several other trees out there that claim to be related to me. I start checking the data and realize that the dates are off and names are just too different. I love the picture stealing, too. When I found my great-aunts headstone, several family members swiped the pictures for their tree. Also, the misspelled family names and towns are copied over and over again. I sent a note to one man letting him know that the person he claims to be his grandmother is actually mine because I recognize her parents and siblings names and no one in his tree.

    My mom's mom had 4 sets of twins. Every time my sister or I got pregnant, we held our breath until we got an ultrasound. My grandma must have been a fluke because none of my cousins have had twins either. One set of twins has different birthdays. One was born before midnight and one after. My grandma begged the doctor to list their birthdays on the same date, but the doctor refused.

    We have the step-parent issues in our family. I always list the correct parent to each child. We also have adoptions and I can find the original birth certificates but the amended ones are sealed for privacy. One of the original on-line birth certificates has the child's last name completely wrong, even though his mom has a copy of the original. My son's great-grandmother's last name was misspelled on her death notice so it took some digging to find her. Human error even exists in "official" records.

    As for family legends...I wish someone had of recorded stories from way back. Supposedly, someone in our family is related to Abraham Lincoln, but no one has been able to prove it. There are so many stories floating around and no way to prove much of it.

    Actually, it's a distant relative who has traced his ancestry back into the 1600 and 1700's, so that makes them mine, too. I have no idea where he got all of his information. If it's true, fantastic. My ex mother-in-law came from Holland and she had a paper copy of her family tree and it was from back in the 1600's..unbelievable.

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