Stupid thing that's become too important

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Journey
Journey Member Posts: 905
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer

Sorry but this is a Rant and Pity Party! Oh this is going to sound so dang stupid but it is really eating at me and I need help sorting it out.  I have a good marriage and love my hubby. When we got married 17 years ago I was recently divorced with a small son and he was widowed with a small daughter.  We blended pretty well over time and life has been good.  We are doing pretty great financially and have for several years.  When we married we picked out a solitaire and guard set for me.  It was all he felt we could swing at the time and it is very pretty however not good quality.  For the last 5 years now I have talked about upgrading my diamond and he has been in complete agreement.  I really hoped we would do it for our 15th anniv, but Cancer came in to our world and we held off not knowing how much out of pocket the surgeries and treatments would be.  So now I am facing the big 50 bday next week and I am getting upset because I know he still hasn't done anything about the diamond.  I even gave it to him a couple of months ago for him to take it to our jeweler to have it evaluated.  He brought it home and said something like "look how nice it looks now - they cleaned it for you!".  (I know he is buying me a sonic jewelry cleaner for my bday.  I didn't ask for it but I know he has it in his head that I need one.)  Sigh...All I want is a freaking 3/4 to 1 carat diamond - something of a nice quality that isn't cloudy like mind.  I even started saving on the side but have now realized how shallow I would feel if I went and bought the damn thing on my own.  Why are men so clueless!  I survived cancer.  It's the only thing I keep asking for. Damn I feel so stupid.  Why has this become so important to me?  And will I enjoy it if I ever get it?

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  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited May 2010

    Men aren't really good at reading minds.

    But maybe he'll totally surprise you with a new one for your birthday.

    Anne

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited May 2010

    I think you should just tell him that's what you want.  Go for it!

  • friscosmom
    friscosmom Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2010

    I love this post and can sooo relate. My hubby and I discussed an upgrade to my ring a few years ago, our 10 year anniversary came and went last summer, then BC in the fall and I'm coming up on a bday and end of chemo in June... not that a new diamond would change my world but hey, we can afford it and I would be one happy camper if I got a big ole' new diamond on my last day of chemo!!! I'm one of those people though that if I have to tell him step by step what I want then it would ruin the specialness for me. :) Good luck and hope you get your new ring!

  • lmays
    lmays Member Posts: 114
    edited May 2010

    I hope he's trying to throw you off his scent with the "Look how nice it looks - they cleaned it for you" line. When is your birthday?  Would be so beautiful if he's planning a surprise.

  • Janeluvsdogs
    Janeluvsdogs Member Posts: 242
    edited May 2010

    Journey, I think you hit on something when you asked yourself, why is acquiring a new ring is so important?

    Why do you think?

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2010

    Thanks guys.  The really sad part is that just a couple of months ago (well after Christmas) I kind of had a melt down and TOLD him that I was upset about the delays.  I never lash out but I was so upset (I am so startled about that!) that I pointed out how I have encouraged him to buy a bunch of guitars in the past few years. Why does this matter so much to me now?  Is it the cancer thing?  It's kind of like I feel now or never, but I don't plan on getting sick again anytime soon.  Maybe I am just too darn hormonal still.

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2010

    Janlovesdogs (love yours!) - I don't know!  I'm not a girly girl.  Pretty darn practical.  It's just like I feel like I deserve it?  Need it to look at and be happier? Jeez I just tear up typing about this!  It's like we spend money on the kids (now adults), house, vacations, and in the recent past LOTS of money on doctors.  Is it a reward?  I don't know.

  • Janeluvsdogs
    Janeluvsdogs Member Posts: 242
    edited May 2010

    Journey, I think you've hit on a potent feeling some of us get. We feel slammed and go thru one thing after another in cancer diagnosis and treatment. And as my friend says, "we need a win."

    We need something to counteract all the crap so we can feel life is fair after working hard.

    Maybe you can share these feelings with your husband. I think waiting for him to surprise you puts both of you in the position that could break both your hearts. I would come right out and say, "honey, I'm not a girly girl but I've decided looking at that new ring on my finger will make me feel shiny and new again and just plain happy. I want that feeling. The ring will be a symbol to me of moving forward. Please make that happen for me."

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited May 2010

    Ladies - just be careful what you wish for!  I also had a teeny diamond in an inexpensive setting. After 24 years the whole setting just kind of crumbled one day - fortunately I found the little diamond on the floor where it had fallen.  I gave it it to my DH, telling him that for our 25th anniversay I'd like him to get it reset, but to keep in mind that it probably broke out of the little setting because it wanted to grow into a nice big diamond!  He got the hint.  On our 25th he presented me with a beautiful new diamond.  That very night we were cooking ourselves a gourmet dinner and I dropped the cutting knife on my foot.  Completely severed the tendon that connects the big toe to the ankle, so my big toe drooped.  I ended up having tendon repair surgery and was in one of those big black Frankenboots for 8 loooooong weeks.  Then barely three weeks after I got out of the Frankenboot, I found the lump!  My DH and I now tease about the big diamond and call it the "Rock O' Doom!"  Tongue out  I had the little diamond made into a pendant so I still have the sentimental value of the first diamond he gave me.

    On a serious note, though, I hear you.  Even in this case, I had to pretty much spell out to my wonderful DH that I really really wanted a new diamond.  And this was even before b/c.  And a few months ago, I sat my DH down and told him I knew how much he's done for me over the last 2 years, but sometimes I feel really down (maybe the Femara) and that I need the occasional boost. I said it would mean the world to me if he just brought me flowers or champagne for no reason, or surprised me by cooking a nice meal, etc. I told him I just need little things like that to help me move beyond cancer and find that "new normal" everyone keeps talking about.   And to his credit, he's been very good about things like that ever since.  I think sometimes we expect our poor men to be mind readers - as a whole they tend to be very concrete practical little beings, and sometimes need to have things spelled out for them.  I think Jane's advice is perfect. 

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2010

    Wow - very nicely said.  I think I need to get my head ready for when I don't get the ring next week.  Then maybe a few days later I'll have to say something like what you said. But, on the other hand I'm like Friscosmom in that I really want him to do this on his own.  It's going to suck to have to say" now lets get the checkbook and go to the store today. " I really don't get what's going on in his head.  Maybe I'm selling him short and he is going to surprise me.  But, I need to get ready emotionally when all he hands me is a pair of pjs and a sonic cleaner.  Crap.

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited May 2010

    Natsfan - I must have been typing when you posted!  OMG!  How funny / sad.  You are right about asking for what we need.  They are clueless when things seem so obvious to us.

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited May 2010
    Journey....Pre-bc, I was a bit more materialistic..My DH not having the same taste as I, esp., in jewelry, I did this.... I started buying my own once-a-year great piece of jewelry...I would put it on a 1 year, no interest acct, then my husband could make payments and be done with gift shopping for me for the year (he and my son would actually go to the jewelry store and make the payment and ask that it (payment receipt) be gift wrapped)  Christmas, Valentines day, Anniversary, my Birthday, Mother's day, you name it..At the end of the year it would be paid and I would find my next once-a-year piece..This way I got exactly what I wanted and it was great...Now that I have the pieces I want I want no more....Hope you get what you want, but sometimes men need a push....
  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited May 2010

    Journey, I agree with the others - spell it out! Depending on his personality, it can be in a heart-to-heart, or in a casual conversation, or in an amusing fashion. Whatever works.

    When I was about to turn 50 I knew I would feel down if my dh didn't get me something special. I also knew he wouldn't have a clue what to get and would be afraid to get the wrong thing. So a few months before my birthday I told him that I wanted him to get me either a certain watch or a ring with my 6 kids' birthstones and the surprise would be that I didn't know which one he would get. So - he told my sisters what I had said, they got me the watch, and he got me the ring! He sure came through once a hint the size of a brick fell on his foot.

    Leah

  • Susan_HonoringMySister
    Susan_HonoringMySister Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2010

    I have found that sometimes I have to come right out and tell my husband what I want. I'll say, "Honey, do you know what I'd really love for my birthday?" Then when he asks I'll just say what I want in a positive way..."It would be so fantastic to have a ____, I'd really like that." If he says no, don't give up....just tease him about it in a positive way saying "I deserve it cause I'm the best woman in the Universe!" "I'll make you pancakes every day for the rest of my life!" .. Well, you get the idea. The key is believing you deserve it and that he will give it to you. Good luck because you DO deserve it because to you it is a symbol of how your marriage has survived!

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    Turning 50 is a huge reason to celebrate. When I turned 50 last year, I planned my 50th birthday celebration. My kids wanted to do something at my daughter's house, but I chose to have it at one of the restaurants I took my kids to, over the years. Everybody was told in advance that they would be responsible for their own bill and bar tab. Tacky? Not one person complained, the back room at the restaurant was full and we had a blast.

    Men can be clueless and sometimes need more than a hint. Tell him what you truly want and the reason behind it. This birthday is a celebration of YOU and you deserve more than the sonic jewelry cleaner! Best of luck and happy early birthday!

    Linda

  • AuroraL
    AuroraL Member Posts: 33
    edited May 2010

    Truly, though, I cannot believe how clueless men can be.  The depths of their cluelessness knows no bounds.

     You ladies are all dynamite.  Wink

    One year at mother's day or my birthday I thought for sure he would give me something.  So, when he asked me to get the mail I thought for sure there would be something in there.  But no, he just wanted me to get the mail.

     If you don't LOL, you might just cry!

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2010

    Thank you guys for all the stories and support.  It's been good to laugh and tear up reading them. Your advice is wonderful and really does help.  This is just not a subject I wanted to talk to my sister or others because I am a little embarrassed about it all.  I have so much to be thankful for without a ring.  But, I think most of you here understand how I must feel. My big day is Monday so I'll let you know what happens. 

  • gracejon
    gracejon Member Posts: 972
    edited May 2010

    Joourney, the first Christmas after I was done with treatment my hubby gave me a new 1 carat solitare.  I do not to this day understand what motivated him to do this and I would have bet my last dollar thathe would never ever buy a new diamond.  I say go for it and tell him that this is what you would like and you have talked about it before and now is the time.  I don't think it's stupid!

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited May 2010

    I just had to say this ... my husband and I had talked about this for about a year ... the diamond he got me when we married 6 years ago was small and although beautiful, was not exactly what I wanted.  It wasn't until last Dec. when at a happy hour w/ girlfriends one of them mentioned that her husband had promised her a new ring for her 10 year anniversary and well, she just decided to go look and found one she loved and decided what the heck and just bought it and came home and showed her hubby who she said was rather relieved she taken care of her Christmas present.  She was showing it off to all of us and I was inspired. 

    I know my husband isn't great at surprises and didn't trust him to go buy me what I wanted so I told him I was going to go buy what I wanted and if he wanted to come along that would be fine.  We went several places ... ended up at Jared's.  Awesome place to go .. they have a beautiful selection. Maybe that's not the most romantic way to have it done but it was so much fun trying out all the possibilities and then actually get to take one home! Highly recommend it.

    2 weeks later I was diagnosed with BC.

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited May 2010

    OK, I get it: your want romance, sensitivity, creativity, After 17 years???  Nah, I'm crossing my fingers for ya, and do so hope it comes thru, but don't fall too hard if it doesn't.  My dh suprised me with a gold rolex, diamond face for our 25th Christmas/annniv and my 50th birthday.  I had asked for an Ann Klein fashion watch.  and that is what I really, really wanted. It's a nice watch, but not where I place my preferences.   Now, after 42 yearsof marriage, and lots of expensive and lovely suprises from him, I began telling him what I want -- the whole family has always had wish lists (including daughter's: Neiman's diamond tiara.  LOL)  it's a wish list after all, not a shopping list.

    As sensitive and thoughtful as my dh is: our 25th annive and renewal of our vows at the chapel where he went to college (his fav time in life) I wanted a small anniv ring of tiny emeralds and tiny diamonds.  Hinted and hinted; told the kids, etc, etc.  NADA--

    Here's to Monday being the day, and by the way, you deserve this ring==========not because of 17 years, or bc, or kids, or whatever.  You just DO.  Ok, maybe bc

  • jenbal
    jenbal Member Posts: 82
    edited May 2010

    Not to rain on everyone's parade, but here's another perspective . . .

    My engagement ring was a family heirloom --  a diamond in the center of gold spokes between which were dark red rubies. The diamond was small and the rubies worn, but I loved it for its character and uniqueness. On our third anniversary my husband gave me another family ring -- an antique gold setting into which we put three pearls we'd "won" at a seaside oyster booth. I wore them both everyday and was so proud of them -- even though they weren't terribly valuable.

    On a business trip, about six years into our marriage, I managed to lose them both in an incredibly stupid and careless way. I was frantic and devastated when I discovered them gone and realized what had happened. I called my husband in a storm of tears. He was soothing but couldn't talk long. He was in a meeting with a friend of ours who was doing some design work for us. About four months earlier, her husband had been killed in Italy, leaving her with two young daughters to raise on her own. Ladies -- that dried my tears fast. I'd lost my rings, but I still had the man. I've never asked for, nor expected replacements. I miss them still -- and hope that whoever found them where I'd left them and didn't turn them in has joy of them. But I've had joy of my husband every day for twenty more years.

    I don't want to sound prissy or even poo-poo the value of what a big/new diamond might mean -- I do remember how much I loved my rings and how much they meant! But instead of stressing over the symbol of your love and your triumph -- how about rejoicing in the love itself and the triumph itself in living everyday more completely with each other?

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited May 2010

    I'm keeping my original ring. I liked it then and I like it now, and anyways I'm not a ring girl.

    But I asked for (and got) diamond earrings.  They are the best earrings and go with everything.

    I do agree that you need to ask specifically and it never hurts to leave catlogs with post-it notes around either. 

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2010

    Hi ladies, thought I would give you a little update.  First I want to thank each of you for sharing your thoughts and stories.  Like I said originally - I really don't know Why this has become such and big deal to me.  I would gladly give up all my possessions just to be with my husband if I was given that choice.  But, since God hasn't given me that ultimatum...I'd love a pretty diamond Innocent

    So back to the update.  Friday night my hubby tells me that the next day we were going to go downtown and stay at the Ritz Carlton and then off to a special dinner.  We had a wonderful time, hotel upgraded us to a suite!  Dinner and fantastic bottle of wine.  Today he gave me a precious romantic card and some small gifts.  He has hinted more is coming tonight, but I am soo okay now if there is no promise of a diamond.  Your "talk" to me here has helped me get over the pity party and back on track to the strong woman that I am.  If he doesn't have a ring or promise of one tonight I will wait a few weeks then tell him we are going shopping.  Although he DID surprise me with the romantic evening on the town I am a fool to think he will do anything more along those lines.  Anyway, I'll let you know tomorrow! 

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited May 2010

    I was reading all of your posts and it really hit home for me.  I started chemo in Novemeber and our 6 year anniversarywas coming up in December and I was feeling very insecure.  Here I was bald, ageing rapidly every day, really sick and looking like hell.  My self esteem was at an all time low and my desire for a ring went along with these feelings.   I told my husband I wanted a new ring and I found a ring that was an incredibly good deal as it was the holidays and jewelry was on sale.  Well, I originally had a gold, tiny flawed diamond ring with a matching gold band that fit into it in a set-very pretty and old fashiond looking-and one of the little diamonds had fallen out in a car accident and the cost to repair it was the same as the starting price to replace it because there were so many deals available.  I told my husband I wanted a new ring and I found a ring that was an incredibly good deal as it was the holidays and jewelry was on sale.  did he buy me the ring that I wanted, no.  He felt it should be his choice (and he didn't get nearly as good of a deal as I had found).  Do I love my new ring? Yes, it symbolizes not only that we have endured through this really rough and ongoing rough time but that we will continue to thrive in spite of this difficult time.  Eventually, I will do something with my original ring because it has sentimental value.

    Sounds to me like your husband is an amazing guy nd I hope that you get your ring.  You have earned it!  And if he doesn't, go get your own!  (P.S. I went and purchased a second band with tiny diamonds to go with my new ring because I was so used to having two and the old one didn't go with it)

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2010

    Well.....I'm getting a new ring!  He gave me a handmade card and told me how much he wanted (has been wanting) to do this and now was the time.  I've learned in this process that I've got to stop waiting on things to happen (although in this case it did work out.)  But from now on I'm going to be more proactive about that things that I feel strongly about.  Thank you all for the sage advice!

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited May 2010

    Congratulations Journey! Men aren't mind readers so sometimes we have to be direct and tell them what we want. It sounds like your weekend was pretty special and yesterday was the icing on the cake! Happy ring shopping...

    Linda

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited May 2010

    WHHHOOOOPPPPPPEEEEE  !!!!!!!  (The weekend sounds amazing)

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