Anybody get depressed while taking an antidepressant???
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Hi! I'm new here...just posted my first thread called, "I have not been the same - Three Years Out" in the depression ptsd topics.
I browsed this thread the other day and I was so awed at the pictures! I love garden and fun, artsy pics. I posted some little ones in my last thread.
To stay on topic, I hate effexor. It has been horrible for me....I'm Bipolar 2, on 150 effexor and 200 lamictal 2x day. I have had awful depression since my husterectomy, oopharectomy and am currently looking for a new psychiatrist. I believe that Effexor did make me worse.
So does anyone know how to do that gorgeous water pail on the fence thing? I'm working on mosaic birdhouses right now (although very slowly). This is a little teacup birdfeeder in my garden. I had to really keep myself from smashing it up to go in a mosaic!
Nice to meet you all.
Lisa
(Aka Bubbies)
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Lisa,
Talking about mosaic... I used to do ... egg-shell mosaic. You just keep all the shells of the eggs you use around the house, remove the membrane inside (there's a thin membrane inide the shell, just grab it and pull it, tweezers help) and then wash the egg-shells real well with dishsoap and water, rinse and let dry.
Buy from garage sales or Dollar General store crappy cheapo flower vases (they must be smooth, no engraving or models or anything). Have your egg-shells handy near you. With a brush, "paint" the outside of the vase with glue (tac glue is just fine) and then press the egg-shell on the vase, smashing it in an even layer covering the vase in cracked egg-shell. Let dry, then paint it - the best looking designs are made either leaving the natural egg-shell color or painting the whole an ivory-white first, then with earth-brown and red colors, paint Greek-style decorations (either geometrically or characters). After you are done, and the paint is dry, apply matte (satin, no-gloss) varnish to protect it. It can be done on other objects, not just vases, only if you plan it for something that will be outside, make sure you use an outdoor varnish, like the ones used for claygarden figurines. The mosaic-like cracked egg-shells make the objects look like they are ancient artifacts.
You can also mix color with the glue (brown, black, beige, ivory-white) and then use various shades of brown egg shells on it. As a tip, you can first cut with scissors shapes in the egg-shell before you break and smash them flat on the object. You can even make mosaic-pictures to hang on the wall, picture frames, jewelry, or use it on various molds and trims around the house, apply copper leaf or antique gold leaf or silver leaf lightly brushed on the shells - to make it look really fabulous. Once you apply the varnish, the objects can be cleaned with a moist cloth.
I don't have any photo to show you, all the ones I made I either gave away or sold. But, here's a few examples of egg-shell mosaic art I gathered for you from online:



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I love the fishy eggshell .. now I have new ideas for a project. I bet you could do this on old smooth plates. I'm making a windchime by hanging them from the inside of an old picture frame. Tim cuts copper tubing for me to make the chimes and I use beads to string them up! I'll take a pic when I'm finished. Will hang it in the pergola garden.
Y'all are welcome here anytime .. my door is always open.
Bubbies .. Lamictal is supposed to help keep depression flare-ups at bay. I hated that med and stopped taking it. I'm doing well on Celexa and Abilify. Abilify is a great mood stabilizer and used for BP-2. I've increased the dosage over a couple of months to 5 mg and that is working just fine.
Good luck with the new shrink. Love the t-cup bird feeder. I have some antique cups and saucers, I might try this too!
For being a thread on depression .. I'm finding all kinds of stuff to help lift my depression and keep it at bay.
Geez E .. thanks for starting the topic .. I don't feel so alone and I'm getting great ideas!
Love you all,
Bren
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Thanks for the ideas, Day. I think I have tried the eggshell technique a while back. It takes quite a while because of the tiny pieces. I especially love the blue mosaic. Too bad you don't have any photos of your own! I have a habit of selling and giving away everything that I make but I have tried to start getting pictures.
I'm going to start a new thread on depression and creativity...maybe we can get all kinds of garden ideas and such going there. Bren, your two pictures of your porch and the watering cans is what made me stay here at this site and post...I was going to breeze on through.
I'm having a bad day again and need something to focus on. Will you share more pictures of your garden on the new thread, too? Let's see if we can create a little cottage of dreams and ideas to keep us going.
Lisa
(aka Bubbies)
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Bubbies .. I'm sorry you were having a bad day. The kind've sneak up on us don't they. My afternoon and evening yesterday was like that ... the darkness snuck up and bit me on the butt. I was getting so discouraged. My DH is having to stay on the road for two weeks at a time since I lost my biggest client last November. So far, my marketing isn't paying off .. and it's getting harder to cope.
Taking my paperwork to the bank today for the loan modification/restructure program. Sure hope this works .. anything would help right now.
Hope Monday brings a better day to all.
Love,
Bren
PS ... E .. how are you .. check in when you can.
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Hi Enjoyful .. have been thinking about you ... how's things going??
lots of love,
Bren
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Hey everyone -
Just flew in from St. Louis, and boy are my arms tired!! LOL...that joke just never gets old. To me. :-)
Anyway, the St. Louis oncs prescribed Celexa for me, and if it works I'm to start tapering off the Effexor. I hope it does; this downward spiral shows no sign of leveling off. Why is Effexor on the market??
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I've just been on Effexor for about 6 weeks now but it's been very helpful for me. I had to have a total hysterectomy and, because of my tumor type, I cannot take any hormones. My dr. says that a side effect of Effexor is that it helps with hot flashes. My night sweats were almost unbearable. Effexor has given me back complete nights of sleep. I'm taking it without any depression reasons so I wonder if that is why I'm having a better result?!
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Sherri, I don't want to scare you - I guess I am a bit biased when it comes to Effexor. I lost a dear friend two years ago because of it. Besides depression (mild), she was complaining about the same thing, hot flashes after hysterectomy. The Effexor made her depression very serious, she couldn't get off it, had several suicide attempts, finally went into lots of pot smoking (and I suspect other things too) and drinking. She died in October of 2008 - declared cause of death (by the family) was heart attack, but ..... She was only 43 years old. We have talked many, many times about the stupid dr. who prescribed it for her, how she couldnt' get off of it, how her life was becoming a nightmare. She was on Effexor for about 6 years before she died.
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Hi E .. I never get tired of your joke. Hope things went well in St. Louis and the trial you are participating in.
I take Celexa 60 mg a day, plus Abilify 5 mg. This is the most "normal" I've felt in years.
I hope the Celexa helps you .. I was very afraid to take Effexor, even when the rad onc recommended it. I had to tell him no and seek help elsewhere. It seems the onc's like to prescribe it because it doesn't interfere with AI's or Tamoxifen .. but neither does Celexa!
I've been in a lot of pain due to problems with C5-6, and 2 pain pills a day just aren't cutting it. I find out on Thursday if a scheduled MRI has been approved. Sure hope we can get to the bottom of this problem. It's been getting progressively worse over the past two years! The pain meds don't help my depression at all, and aren't much good for the pain either.
And the weather is bad today ... so no sunshine therapy for me ... wahhhh.
love,
Bren
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Thanks for sharing!!!
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Hey Bren -
Sorry about your neck pain! I hope they can diagnose the problem and set you on the right path. I'm doing physical therapy for my neck issues because most prescription pain meds don't do anything for me. The PT helps TONS. I also did PT for some herniated disks a few years ago and felt better almost immediately. I hope that's a route you can take rather than pain pills. Let me know?
Our part of the world is expected to get sun and warm weather this weekend. Yay!! Hope you get to enjoy it!
Oh, and I started Celexa yesterday and feel better already. Unless that's the placebo effect talkin'. Though I did read the Celexa info tucked in with my prescription, and it warns me to seek immediate medical attention if I experience a prologed or painful erection lasting more than four hours. Heck with medical attention - I'm calling The Enquirer!! :-)
I hope everybody has a great, pain-free, sunshiney day!
E
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E ... bwahahahaha!
Celexa is fast acting. Doesn't surprise me you would start to feel better quickly. Don't assume it's a placebo. I think it's working! If after a month or two, you start to feel really sad again (you know .. that black hole), you might need to bounce the dose up a bit.
Sun is on the way here too .. supposed to hit 80 today. Yippee .. Sunshine therapy on the way. This has been the longest winter I can remember in the 4 years I've lived in VA. My poor Early Girl tomatoes aren't so early this year.
Haven't heard yet about the MRI schedule. Does anyone know if an MRI of the C-spine would show muscular problems? My doc says the arthritis in C-spine is mild to moderate ... so how the heck can that cause so much pain? Yesterday was a good day .. didn't need a pain pill until 12:30 and only took another 1/2 after that with Advil. yeah!!
Like Enjoyful said .. here's to a pain-free, sunshiney day for everyone.
love,
Bren
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E ... checking on you .. hoping you're feeling better!
love,
Bren
EDITED: Well .. I'm not pain-free today .. have the migraine from hell. Three pain pills and advil later .. and very little relief. Maybe it's all the flowering trees I have raining pollen down on me!
I finally got the MRI ... and I lost it the first time in. It was so tight and they put some kind of thing over my face to stabilize my head. I've never had one before ... and I should have closed my eyes before he moved me in the machine. I shouted .. "Get me out, get me out!" And he did, but I said I'd like to try again, but this time I closed my eyes before I went in. That did the trick, but I wanted out about 7 minutes before it was done. I held on ... but I never want to do that again.
Won't get the results until the 19th. I'm nervous about this .. maybe that's why I have the headache. The ortho was booked full until then .. so I'm going to call my PCP and go pick up the results from her office as soon as she gets them.
And while I'm on a role .. I hate cancer. I hate all cancer .. the one that took my dad and the one that takes my friends. The one that stole every bit of innocence I had left. Can't even get a simple MRI test without worrying.
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Sorry to hear about your pain, Bren. It must be awful. My friend who has just finished rads (she was stage 3) has been telling me about horrible back pain, too, and she has to have tests next week. Could the chemo have been aggrivating arthritis?
So many people get claustaphobic in MRIs, Bren. I have never had one like that but I think I would ask them for a sedative if I ever have to have one.
I hate cancer. Sometimes the worrying gets so out of hand for me and at other times I laugh about it. Any little thing and I worry that it's cancer. It's become a bit of a joke with Suzy and I (the friend I mentioned). I called to tell her that I had face cancer yesterday. I had a hive and of course in my head I had to turn it into skin cancer. Sore back and it's bone cancer. arthritis in my finger and I told her that I have finger cancer!
We go back and forth like that because we laugh. But sometimes the obsessing is painful. My depression is still not under control, I feel like I'm walking through molasses. And then at alternate times, I'm so obsessive and anxious that I feel like I'm coming out of my skin. I have been kind of slow to get a new Psychiatrist, I guess I'm scared of another doctor messing with my head. I have it narrowed down to two, though. And have to go and see the old one on Monday. The one who tells ME that I'm doing okay.
Meanwhile, still on effextor, breaking out in huge welts if sun hits my skin (because of a reaction from the effexor) and the Psych doesn't want to take me off of it. Hopefully next week, I'll have some more progress on this problem.
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Bubbies .. I really hope you can get some relief soon. It doesn't sound like the Effexor is effective at all. In all these years, I only saw one psychiatrist that was worth the trip to the office. What is with these guys? I'm so lucky to have my PCP .. she is infinitely more qualified to deal with my depression and anxiety (mood swings) than any shrink. Adding the Abilify in a small dose has really changed my life. Even Tim has notice a huge difference in me. I'm like I used to be when we met years ago.
I worry about you ... don't wait to long on that doctor ... or see a PCP or internal specialist.
One shrink I saw put me on Depakote and Lamictal. I told him my SE's, which were awful ... voracious eating, my hair was breaking and falling out and I was shaking so bad, I couldn't hold a fork ... he told me to eat low fat and get a short punk hairdo. Then I fired him. And quit taking that sh_t.
I wish you well ... stay close so we don't worry.
love,
Bren
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In rare cases some Antidepressnats do cause side effects, but it may not for everyone.
At times the medicines wont agree to their health, in that cases it may cause side effects.
Because of that they may get depressed, that's all.
So check out with your physician whether that antidepressants suits you or not.
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My sadness has been creeping up on me again .. and thoughts of flight fill my head. All I can think about is the lovely log cabin I had in the southern Utah mountains ... and no freakin' humidity!
It is so hot and humid, I really can't do all the things I usually do to keep the sadness from creeping in.
By noon, I'm feeling trapped in the house hiding from the heat.
I have to go to San Diego soon .. and I haven't been there since my dad died last year. Dreading the trip, but happy to see my son and grandsons.
Hope everyone is having a pretty good day!
Bren
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