April 2010 starting chemo
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Well had my first AC on 4/29. I'm on day 7 here and the nausea will not go away. I'm going to try accupuncture tomorrow to see if that helps. Has anyone else tried accupuncture for SEs? I've also had a low grade fever the whole time. No hair loss yet but I'm thinking of sporting a mowhawk until it does. If not now...then when?
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Well tomorrow is my big day... ugh, 1st TX of AC and I am really getting nervous.
Lexie5 - I hope you feel better soon!
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well today I cried....luckily it was for something good....I do not have the BRCA gene mutations....it seems like there are enough negative things we deal with cancer, SE, chemo, surgeryk no hair, (triple negative for me), etc. that to have something good happen was a little overwhelming......
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DancerMel28 - I started losing my hair on day 14 - and once it started coming out it was coming out fast so I had it buzzed and am wearing a wig - ugh. My face broke out around day 8-10 but cleared up within a few days and the skin is actually very clear now. Second TC treatment this coming Friday.
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Thanks Prickles: Saw my onc today and he gave me some tablets for stomach acid...feel much better today(i can actually even forget i'm on chemo!!!)
Susiesue: I'm happy for you on the good news especially cos of your daughter. Take care
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EMME
so glade you have no radiation i hope they tell me that too.i am on my 3 treatment of cytoxon and red devel as they say they have gave me the bigest dose they can i have done well i get week tierd the first two days then sick to my tummy but i never through up thats good only have realt two or three bad days i think or faith in god has alot to do with are treatment.
i shaved my head just after last treatment it is alot better than dealing with the hair coming out in hand fulls everyday i have a wig but i perfure my hats and scarffs i can deal with no hair better than felling bad.
ALL THE GALLS we can beat this with are faith in God and staying strong God can give us what we need to get throught. i have 3 kids and he just knows what and when i need something and makes it happen by the way they say my breast tummer is shreeking about 2 to 3 cm just two treet ments it might just get it all before surgery. God be with you all
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thanks everyone for the advice - i rang the nurses yesterday and they told me that it wasn't a usual side effect of TC (huh I beg to differ!) but were worried about possible infection so said to go to my GP. I saw him this morning and he gave it a name (too long and complicated to remember!) and said normally a dose of antibiotics would clear it up but preferred not to give them to me as I've got so many other bits and pieces in my system and he didn't want to cause nausea which would put me in a worse situation. So instead I've got an antibiotic cream to apply twice a day with the view to prevent inflamation and further break outs. Basically it's all the toxins in the body casuing it so by keeping the skin clean with this cream it should help. He also said that he sees it a lot as a result of Chemo so there you go.
LauraM - good luck tomorrow. The anticipation really is worse than the actual thing so hopefully you'll be fine!
Saralmum - I have a friend who went through chemo and for ages afterwards couldn't even drive past the place where she had her infusions without feeling nauseous because of the association with it. I don't think it's as strange as you think. Hope you feel better soon.
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Lexie5 - I took 2 nausea pills each night and morning and the first 2 days after treatment and had another pill I could use during the day if I needed it. I was given lots of these pills, but only ended up using 3 last time. Do you have something like this to help out?
My face also has a few red bumps on the cheeks that I try to cover up with makeup. My head is really tender and the hair is coming out pretty fast. Today it was windy and my scalp hurt when the wind blew my hair. I couldn't believe it!
Saralmom - I had a hard time being near the operating room after my 2 surgeries. I had a mild panic attack and had to fight to keep the tears away. I couldn't wait to get away. Luckily my husband was with me to try to keep me calm, but I don't really think he understood why I was so upset.
Farfaith - I am with you on the faith thing. Once I got over the inital feelings of doom and gloom, I have decided that this is not going to kill me and I will be just fine. I fear some of the treatments, but I never think about anything other than being cancer free at the end of this year and finally having everything back to normal.
Laura M - We were all scared too about the first time, but think positive thoughts and it will be fine.
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LauraM, you're in my thoughts today, hope everything goes fine, I'm in jersey too
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susiesue- That is wonderful news on the BRCA results!!! I had blood drawn yesterday for the test and am anxious to know the results--I have 3 daughters and pray I am negative!!
LauraM- Good Luck today!! I hope your infusion in uneventful and runs smoothly!!!
Lexie5-- I hope your nausea subsides soon! Are you taking anti-nausea medications? Are there new ones you could try?
Question for you ladies:) Has anyone else experinced sores on their scalp after hair loss? I have sores on my scalp and they hurt and itch:( I am assuming it is folliculitis, but am going to call the Onc. today. Just thought I might ask you ladies!
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Hey SGJ
My hairdresser who specializes in aleopecia and chemo hairloss said a bunch of her clients swear by Neutragena T-gel shampoo for your scalp through the bald stage. I haven't tried it yet but plan on picking some up. She said it helped a lot of them with the sensitivity as well.
Susiesue
Congratulations...Love to hear the good news and hear about the tears of joy!
I'm on day one post treatment two. I'm tired and my arm is looking like a pin cushion. It took four tries to get my IV running and then it stopped working before my final med. Oye. My arm is bruised and sore. I'm running true to my last Tx. feeling good today but will probably crash on day 3. chemo Zombie here I come. I'm going in for a port placement on Monday...yea! no more needles! So excited!
LauraM Hope your tx goes well!
Happy Thursday all!
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Good luck today, LauraM!
I think I'm going to try that T-gel shampoo. My scalp is still sensitive, although it seems to be getting better. I bought some satin pillowcases and it did seem to make a difference last night, even though it was the same pillows underneath that I've been using.
Once the scalp is a little less sensitive, I guess I can start getting to know my wig. I still haven't named it. Any ideas? (The manufacturer's name for it is Codi.). The wig place gave me the names of a couple of hairdressers who will trim wigs for free (or just a tip) as a way to give back. They recommend wearing it for several days before trimming so you get a better idea of how it really feels and falls naturally.
My prostheses (which I don't use much) should probably get names as well. I'm not sure Thelma and Louise fit my personality. I'm more of a Laverne and Shirley.
Karen
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I am going for my second AC next wednesday and am not sure how to go about the hair thing. My first round was on 4/28/2010. I know it is has only been a week but I have not yet started loosing any hair yet so am learly about getting it cut/shaved. Kinda hoping I am one of the few that wont loose it but I know that is probably a pipe dream
I am also unsure as to when it starts falling out will it all come out at once, little by little, clump by clump? Any thoughts or tips would be greatly appreaciated.
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Hey JenC: I'm also on AC (started on 4/12). My hair started coming out noticeably at Day 17 or 18 (I'm on the 2 week schedule, so it was a few days after my second tx). My onco said that with AC, it's a sure thing you'll lose your hair. (Sorry!) I think 17 days after first tx is pretty much right on schedule for most people.
For me, the first couple of days were noticeable (i.e., more than what I would normally shed), but it was maybe a dozen hairs at a time. That's when I had my husband give me a longish buzz cut. After another day or two, lots would come out in the shower and I could stand at the sink and lightly comb my hair and have several hairs come out onto the counter. It's not really in clumps for me. It just seems to be thinning all over, although I have a couple of bald spots on top. I have, or had ;-( pretty thick hair, so it may be different if your hair is thinner to begin with.
What's weird is that I seem to have a reverse male pattern baldness thing going on. I'm wondering if I'll end up with hair on top after the sides and back go first.
I'm not pulling it out, although I hear some people do that. I find my scalp is pretty sensitive, so I don't want to make it worse. When I comb and it comes out, though, it doesn't hurt. And I can just sit there and notice hairs all over my shirt after a while. When I wear a hat or scarf, I notice scattered hairs on the inside when I take it off.
For me anyway, I'm at the point where I would just as soon it all go. I'm ready to get this stage over with. (I may feel differently when it happens ;-)
Karen
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Regarding hair loss -
I had consulted with the wig shop (they are a complete support system for cancer patients and in the know) and they had said to make the appointment for 2 weeks after my first treatment - for the buzz cut, etc. I actually made the appt on the 16th day due to a schedule conflict. As I was approaching the appt my hair wasn't really coming out. On day 15 I started noticing some long strands coming out here and there. I was really having second thoughts about buzzing it - I even thought maybe I'd not lose it (I think we all think that at one point or another). Well on the morning of my appt on day 16 the hair was coming out in clumps of long hairs - it was everywhere. And it was really upsetting - just like they predicted. Buzzing it all is their way of helping so that there is less trauma.
Now my buzzed hair is coming out. Like Karen, the sides of my head are more bare than the top. I do rub it when I shower, and I have a balm for after showering that I rub in - and lots of hairs are coming out. Even now, I'm dreading losing the ugly little hairs I have left. Being smooth bald feels worse than having a buzz...
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Hey JenC~ I am on Day 13 and I am just starting to lose a few hairs at a time. My scalp has been hurting for about a week though. My husband has been bald for about 8 years so he is very excited about us being "twinsies"... Trust me, I am NOT sharing his same enthusiam! My stepson, age 23, will be shaving his head along with me for support when the time comes.
And Lexie5~ I love the Mohawk idea! Go for it!
Has anyone else had drippy nose and sore throat? I have no fever and don't think it's a sinus infection. Could the drippy nose be from losing nose hairs? My nose feels SO dry... My dry mouth, however, seems some better...
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Hi,
arubajan, yes! I have the drippy nose and some kind of post-nasal drip at night, which causes throat irritation. I've seen that posted elsewhere as a common SE - best to carry tissue everywhere.
As for hair loss ~ I just finished AC TX #3 today and I still am not completely bald. I have maybe 10% of the hair on my head still. It is buzzed to about 1/2". Hair loss/shedding has come to a standstill, and hairs don't come out when I tug on them...am wondering if this is it or if I'll eventually have 100% hair loss. Weird thing is that the finer hairs near the scalp line, at the nape of the neck, and sides of my cheeks haven't come out. Looks sort of strange, and I couldn't stand the way it looked like I had "sideburns" but no hair, so I waxed them off. Much better.
sumby, you had mentioned the chest pain. I had what I characterized as a heaviness or pressure sensation on my mid-chest, especially when I'm in bed. My onc prescribed omeprizole, as it is a GI symptom. I didn't have actual heartburn.
Gosh, so many new posters getting ready to have treatment. Good luck to you all. If anyone is contemplating getting a PICC line, I highly recommend it. The placement of the line was fairly easy, and it has been smooth sailing getting blood draws and chemo. It's really fast...today I finished AC in record time - in and out in under just over 1 1/2 hours!
~ Julie
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My onco PA told me that the drippy nose is a very common complaint and a SE of chemo. I hate it - it will start dripping out of nowhere and I won't be prepared. I need to keep tissue with me at all times I think. Just one more way that I feel like a little old lady these days... haha.
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A lady at a cancer workshop recommended a shampoo called "Live Clean". She said it is supposed to be very gentle on the scalp. I bought some but have not tried it yet. My hair is quickly thinning out. It start coming out a week ago and has really speeded up. I am hoping to maybe get another week at most out of it. If I do that will be about 4 weeks from Treatment #1. My scalp is very tender and it hurts when the shower hits it in the morning. Ouch!
Jen C - My husband has been bald since about the age of 18. We plan on getting a lot of pictures of us together when we are both bald. I think our kids will love it!
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Thanks everyone for the hair loss info. I am hoping to make it at least 4 days out from my second AC before it really starts comming out. I am a JP and have a wedding to perform three days after my second AC. Keep your fingers crossed for me. I have a wig on standby just in case though:) My husband also said that he would shave his head (he's almost bald anyway so wont be much different
) arubajan05 - I have drippy nose now seems like I constantly have a tishue in my hand and my throat has hurt for the last few days. My Onc gave me magic mouthwash just in case it was the beginning of thrush and it seems to be working. Cant eat any spicy or acidy stuff though, really burns.
Good luck to all that are starting chemo and those of you who are ongoing. You are ALL the bravest woman I know...
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Hi Everyone, this is my first post. I started chemo April 15 (tax day, perfect!), I just finished my second treatment today. I'm on TC x 4, followed by radiation. So far I've not experienced any nausea, but I get a Nulasta shot the day after chemo, and about 7 days after the shot I experienced severe bone pain. Could not get out of bed, never felt anything quite like it. Anyone else get this? My hair started falling out right when they said, it was day 16. Scalp sensitive, hurt to touch my hair or scalp, so my sweet husband shaved it all off for me. Felt better to get that out of the way, I've faced it, moved on. I got a wig that I let my 6 1/2 year old daughter pick out - blonde - I am not a blonde, but I figured, if not now, when? Great time to experiment! So I am going to get it trimmed up and start wearing it, but honestly if nobody else cared I would go bald with nothing on my head at all. I just stay positive, and am trying to get the most out of this journey that I possibly can. I look forward to reading your posts and learning new ways to deal with things, and I hope I can pass along some good ideas too. - Laurie924
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Hi Ladies - I had my first AC today, they started off with giving me Decadron (steroid), Aloxi and the Emend for nausea. Then they gave me Adriamycin then Cytoxan. All in all the whole experiences was rather good. The nursing staff was great and my friend and husband joined me and the time went by really quick. It helped that I had a port put in on Monday so there was not messing with my veins. I am sure this saved a lot of time. I am feeling good so far, hoping to keep feeling this good! I go back tomorrow for Neulasta shot.
I am also a little nervous about what day the hair starts falling out, I have a wedding the day after my 2nd tx. Not sure if I should shave my head and go for the wig or wait it out. So many decisions.
Thanks for all the well wishes and I wish you all a night without SE's!
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Laura M - Glad to hear your treatment went well today. Isn't it great to have the first one over with! Hope you get a good nights sleep.
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Not sure if it is my imagination but I believe my 1/2" hair is growing. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a whole lot of hair and have some bald spots, but I think what is there has grown to almost 1" in some places. It's amazing what will make you happy in a situation like this... Have also noticed leg hair grows for about a week and a half then goes away for about a week and a half (I have TX every 3 weeks). I am 1 week out from TX #2 and feeling mostly human again. SE's were not nearly as bad as TX #1 except fatigue days 1-4 was MUCH more intense. If fatigue is cumulative by the time I get to #6 I won't be able to move.
Drippy nose is constant and getting on my nerves. Kleenex is getting their money's worth with me. Eyes also water 24 hours a day and while my face didn't break out with TX #2 it has been VERY dry.
I also have to put my two cents in about rude people that stare. It has amazed me how many people blatantly stare at me when I have a hat or scarf on. I'm tempted to a) whip my hat off and really give them something to look at or b) look them straight in the eye and say "yes I have cancer. Any other questions?" Has anyone else experienced people being rude or just stupid and inconsiderate?
Happy Friday to everyone and HUGS all around.
Jennifer
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I figure that shortly I will need to wear my scarf. I live in a small town and teach at the school. Most people know I have cancer as I am not working, but I dread the first time I go out with my scarf on. I know people will stare and I look forward to the time when I feel comfortable enough that I don't even realize I have it on. I have a wig, but think it may be too hot to wear during the hot summer months unless it is a special occasion.
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Laurie924, welcome aboard. I had Neupogen rather than Neulasta, but I also had severe bone pain on the fifth day of the shots (I got daily shots on days 5-12 of my first AC cycle). The shots worked, though, at building my white blood cells, so I only needed to do days 5-9 of my second cycle. This time, though, I got the pain on the first day of the shots. It was pretty bad but not as bad as the first time. I'll have blood tests done on Sunday before tx # 3 on Monday, so I guess we'll see if I have to do the shots again this cycle. I'd rather not, as I hate having to inject myself (although it's not hard to do), but if it keeps me from getting infections, it's worth it.
Like a lot of people, I've had a drippy nose, too. I think my nose hairs were the first to go, and now there's nothing to stop the drips on their way out.
tpcjkk: Thanks for the positive info about the PICC line, Julie. My first treatment went great, only needed one attempt to get an IV. The second took three tries, and I still have a couple of bruises a week and a half out. The onco told me the PICC line could be an option. So you can have blood test draws from there as well as the chemo? That's starting to sound good. I had a bilateral mx but extra nodes just taken from the left, so all draws and IVs have to be in my right arm. My chemo treatments are at 2 week intervals, so I'm wondering how my veins will hold up.
Karen
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Hi,
Karen, the PICC line is basically a catheter that is threaded through a vein in your upper arm (non lymph node removal side), which terminates at the superior vena cava. Getting it in requires local anesthesia and imaged guidance. You cannot feel when the line is being inserted, nor can you feel it once it's in. The whole procedure, include the follow up x-ray to make sure placement is right took about an hour. I've not had any problems with it. I get my infusions every two weeks like you, and on my "off" week need to come and get the PICC line dressing changed, and the catheter flushed. Takes 10 minutes. You need to keep the dressing dry; I purchased this water-tight sleeve specially made to cover PICC lines - works like a charm in the shower or bath. It's great because there is an IV hub thing (don't know what it's called) on your upper arm, and the nurse just connects the chemo IV to it. The hub allows placement of needles directly into it, for the Adriamycin push and also blood draws. I was told by my onc that he wanted me to have the PICC line for the AC portion, but I am thinking that it's so easy, I may keep it in for the Taxol portion as well. I am not a needle phobe, but I do have problems with people finding my veins.
Jennifer, wanted to chime in about your comment about rude stares. I have noticed a few, and I just try to make eye contact and smile. Honestly, I hope that the person is thinking that they are happy it's me and not them who has cancer, because at least it is making them feel some gratitude for what they have, as opposed to what they don't have. Cancer has taught me that ten-fold, and each day I see blessings of what I do have. At my very first appointment with my oncologist, I saw a women with a completely bald head. She looked wonderful; she was very neatly dressed and groomed, and had make up on. I think of her when I go out, and hope that I can carry myself as well as her. I don't dare go bald in public, because I'm too chicken (and plus I'm not completely bald, so it doesn't look as good). Also, I do wear my wig when I'm out with my kids since I know it makes them a bit uncomfortable. So far, I haven't had anyone approach me to say anything to me; that was one of my fears about broadcasting my cancer status to the public. Has anyone had someone say something rude or inappropriate to them?
~ Julie
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- SGJ05, I will be sending you good thoughts about your BRCA results. When I went in for the results they had kleenex sitting at the end of the table, they said that it's usually needed whether the result is positive or negative, so if you go in and see kleenex don't panic......
At home, I don't wear anything on my head, so far when I go out I'm wearing a baseball hat......when I drive I take my hat off (that must be interesting for some drivers). I would probably not even wear a hat but I don't want to stress out anybody (I wouldn't want to upset a child). When I see myself in a mirror I'm always surprised, I guess this is so new that my brain still pictures me with hair.
I don't mind talking about my cancer. I appreciate when people that talk to me normally about it, the worst was being with a couple of friends who were very somber and kind of whispered the words "cancer" "treatment".......I would rather laugh than cry as I go through this.
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Speaking about the people staring. I am not looking forward to that either. But for a good laugh when I do loose my hair, two male friends of mine who are bald have offered to go shopping with me in all my baldness just to see peoples reactions.
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hair stories......
A couple of days ago I realized I look like Jeff Dunham's character "Peanut", if I shook my hair there was still some fluff on top of my head that would sway back and forth.
I got tired of feeling like the Peanuts character Pigpen, walking around with a little clould of falling loose hair, so, I have to admit, I may have used a lint roller on my head. It actually helped.
What were the odds......my driver's license (needing a new photo) is due in August.......
Finally, someone suggested ordering Buffs, I just got mine in the mail and so far I love them. I can't even tell I'm wearing one.
thanks for letting me ramble, good thoughts to all
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